Brand new 2024 Triumph speed 400 does not want to start and it does this all the time. Total piece of junk.
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@EA042220 күн бұрын
My scrambler did that first time I stopped my bike after purchasing, removed key retried and check engine light came on. Took back to dealer , coded for immobilizer system malfunction, they flashed ecu and reprogrammed both keys no further issues so far.
@jolmar31612 ай бұрын
Hey, i hope my experience will be able to help just a little bit: Around 2 weeks ago i got a similar (but not the same) issue, when i tried to start the bike the screen (and everything else) would just shut down, no noise... after that the bike would be unresponsive for a few minutes, even if i tried pulling in and out the key the screen would just stay off. After a bit of tinkering I noticed that removing and replugging the fuses had some sort of positive effect, but the problem would return after a few startups. The fix that actually solved every issue for me was cleaning with some anti oxidation the main fuse, when i pulled it out it was clearly a bit oxidised. After cleaning it I never had any issue with startup again, I personally find pretty normal that a bike that comes from indian factories (and probably travels over the sea) has this type of problems... though maybe they could have thought about it. Edit: The main fuse IS NOT in the main fuse box, its behind the left plastic panel (the one where it says "speed 400) in a liiittle plastic thingy, its a 30A fuse (you can find a spare one in the main fuse box i belive... if its really necessary). To remove the side panel you must first unscrew a screw which you find under your saddle. The manual is very clear with the instruction so i suggest you follow that... and please CAREFULL around big fuses and the main power, its a lot of current.
@Tobstertacoma
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info. I did what you said and the fuse looks like it is a part of the starter solenoid. The white plastic top comes off and there sits the 30 amp fuse. I cleaned it with a wire brush and then a rag and slapped it back in. Time will only tell i guess to see if that was it, lol. I will take anything at this point!! Thanks for the info and sharing that so others can see and try it out as well.
@christianmuehlich2935Ай бұрын
I got my Speed 400 in March and had the red immobilizer issue right away from day one. Got a software ECU flash when I had my 600 mile service done in May. The immobilizer light is off now, but I occasionally have the same issue you see in this video. The workaround I figured out is: Turn the key back to off position, put the kill switch in off also, turn the key back on, THEN turn kill switch back on, push the start button. So far the bike fired back on every time. The check engine light then stays on for a couple days before resetting itself, but the bike seems to run just fine. Hoping to get this rectified in my one year service appointment.
@Tobstertacoma
Ай бұрын
Mine did the same thing, it would not start but when i shut it off and turned it back on it would start every time. One day though that might not happen and it just quits all together.
@GerarddeSouzaАй бұрын
From the looks of it, it appears to be an issue with the engine immobiliser. As a Speed 400 owner myself, I've, thankfully, not encountered this issue so far, but have heard of people who have and who have had it rectified by sorting out the immobiliser.
@aja85902 ай бұрын
I’ve had my Speed since January. Two weeks ago it would not start one more. It would turn over, but just not fire up. I left it overnight and tried again the next day with the same issue. I checked the fuel, spark plug, fuses. Disconnected the battery, reconnected. Tried different things with ignition on/off several times before trying to start. But nothing worked so I booked it in with the dealer, which wasn’t able to see it for another 10 days. I had to organise towing it to the dealer out of my own pocket. While waiting for the bike to go to the dealer, I would try starting it a couple of times a day just hoping it would fire up. 6 days later, it started up with no issue. I love the bike, but my one concern prior to purchasing was longer term reliability as it was a bit of an unknown with the bike being manufactured in India by Bejaj. My recent experience hasn’t exactly instilled much confidence in longer term reliability. I hope you get it sorted out mate! When I was having my issue, I posted on one of the Facebook Speed/Scrambler 400 pages and got some of the most ridiculous advice - “are you pulling the clutch in?” You don’t need to on this model. “Is the side stand down?” It doesn’t matter with this model. “Have you checked the kill switch” The bike turns over, it’s not the kill switch.
@Tobstertacoma
2 ай бұрын
This has done this to me more times than i can count. This video shows proof the kick stand was up, clutch was in and the kill switch was off and it still did it. So it back back from service with the codes cleared and a new update for the software and it STILL does it. It is going back to the shop for the second time for them to try to figure it out again. What a mess this is. I will never buy a Triump again that is for sure!!
@vincesacca5025Ай бұрын
Thanks for coming forward with the issues you're having. I wanted a Triumph T-120. They make some really nice looking bikes. I am on the fence when it comes to their issues with different things, concerning dependability.
@Tobstertacoma
Ай бұрын
Nothing but problems sine day one. But i sold it a week ago now and i bought a Suzuki so i will not have any problems because they know what they are doing when it comes to building bikes.
@myname1234ist15 күн бұрын
Might be an issue with the starter motor earth strap not being grounded properly due an overlong bolt being used. Easy enough to physically check.
@KeithBarnett-up3rbАй бұрын
Hello my street triple would light up dash lights just like your bike does then the engine would not crank as though the bike was totally dead switch off wait a five minutes then go through starting procedure again and bike would start eventually bike ecu light flashing no power to starter motor I charged the battery the bike started straight away. Two days later dash lights flashing no power to start starter motor not cranking fitted new battery never had any problems again starting bike started fist time every time for the next three years
@abhilash8555Ай бұрын
It's gonna be a year after a couple of months here, not given me any trouble. You should definitely get it checked with the service guys tit looks like it needs a ECU s/w refresh!
@KeithBarnett-up3rbАй бұрын
Hello get the battery checked out I had a street triple exactly the same starting problems new battery fitted bike always started first time after the original battery was faulty
@Tobstertacoma
Ай бұрын
Brand new battery that the shop and me both tested and they said it was in good shape. This is a no start issues and not a cranking issue!!
@arijitbhadra191419 күн бұрын
I think your piece is defective. I am using for 7 months now just previous stalling issue I faced which was fixed by ecu update. then so far no problem at all. try to replace the whole bike.
@AffyNoXАй бұрын
Why don’t you pull the clutch.. its a Triumph. You have left hand holding the camera.
@Tobstertacoma
Ай бұрын
You do not need to do that, lol.
@FJBx1002 ай бұрын
Hi, any updates on finding a solution to the problem?
@Tobstertacoma
2 ай бұрын
Nope, that want to replace the cluster and see if that is it but it of course is on back order.
@sorcerermax5111
Ай бұрын
@@Tobstertacoma This kind of quality or reliability is unacceptable from Triumph
@christopherpaluck737Ай бұрын
Pull in the clutch lever.
@Tobstertacoma
Ай бұрын
It does NOT require that, lol.
@vardangautam36Ай бұрын
Your key immobilizer sensor (red bell icon) is faulty, should be able to rectify with a software update
@vardangautam36
Ай бұрын
The red bell icon should not be there when you turn on the key, if it's there means the key is not getting ready by the bike ECU hence it doesn't respond to the ignition thinking it's not your key. It's a safety feature which is slightly misbehaving 😬
@vardangautam36
Ай бұрын
If you watch the video again you will notice the bell icon was light up when it didn't start but the last time it went off and the switch responded to the key inserted, ask the service center guys to check this you don't really need to change the cluster as I read in your earlier comments
@vardangautam36
Ай бұрын
One more thing, avoid using both the keys at the same time, as both the keys are coded with different codes at times they interfere with the signalling and hence the computer gets confused whether to allow the key to function or not. This might sound stupid to many but it actually makes a difference, all the things I have mentioned above are tried and tested here in India and these solutions actually work. Happy riding 😊
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My scrambler did that first time I stopped my bike after purchasing, removed key retried and check engine light came on. Took back to dealer , coded for immobilizer system malfunction, they flashed ecu and reprogrammed both keys no further issues so far.
Hey, i hope my experience will be able to help just a little bit: Around 2 weeks ago i got a similar (but not the same) issue, when i tried to start the bike the screen (and everything else) would just shut down, no noise... after that the bike would be unresponsive for a few minutes, even if i tried pulling in and out the key the screen would just stay off. After a bit of tinkering I noticed that removing and replugging the fuses had some sort of positive effect, but the problem would return after a few startups. The fix that actually solved every issue for me was cleaning with some anti oxidation the main fuse, when i pulled it out it was clearly a bit oxidised. After cleaning it I never had any issue with startup again, I personally find pretty normal that a bike that comes from indian factories (and probably travels over the sea) has this type of problems... though maybe they could have thought about it. Edit: The main fuse IS NOT in the main fuse box, its behind the left plastic panel (the one where it says "speed 400) in a liiittle plastic thingy, its a 30A fuse (you can find a spare one in the main fuse box i belive... if its really necessary). To remove the side panel you must first unscrew a screw which you find under your saddle. The manual is very clear with the instruction so i suggest you follow that... and please CAREFULL around big fuses and the main power, its a lot of current.
@Tobstertacoma
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info. I did what you said and the fuse looks like it is a part of the starter solenoid. The white plastic top comes off and there sits the 30 amp fuse. I cleaned it with a wire brush and then a rag and slapped it back in. Time will only tell i guess to see if that was it, lol. I will take anything at this point!! Thanks for the info and sharing that so others can see and try it out as well.
I got my Speed 400 in March and had the red immobilizer issue right away from day one. Got a software ECU flash when I had my 600 mile service done in May. The immobilizer light is off now, but I occasionally have the same issue you see in this video. The workaround I figured out is: Turn the key back to off position, put the kill switch in off also, turn the key back on, THEN turn kill switch back on, push the start button. So far the bike fired back on every time. The check engine light then stays on for a couple days before resetting itself, but the bike seems to run just fine. Hoping to get this rectified in my one year service appointment.
@Tobstertacoma
Ай бұрын
Mine did the same thing, it would not start but when i shut it off and turned it back on it would start every time. One day though that might not happen and it just quits all together.
From the looks of it, it appears to be an issue with the engine immobiliser. As a Speed 400 owner myself, I've, thankfully, not encountered this issue so far, but have heard of people who have and who have had it rectified by sorting out the immobiliser.
I’ve had my Speed since January. Two weeks ago it would not start one more. It would turn over, but just not fire up. I left it overnight and tried again the next day with the same issue. I checked the fuel, spark plug, fuses. Disconnected the battery, reconnected. Tried different things with ignition on/off several times before trying to start. But nothing worked so I booked it in with the dealer, which wasn’t able to see it for another 10 days. I had to organise towing it to the dealer out of my own pocket. While waiting for the bike to go to the dealer, I would try starting it a couple of times a day just hoping it would fire up. 6 days later, it started up with no issue. I love the bike, but my one concern prior to purchasing was longer term reliability as it was a bit of an unknown with the bike being manufactured in India by Bejaj. My recent experience hasn’t exactly instilled much confidence in longer term reliability. I hope you get it sorted out mate! When I was having my issue, I posted on one of the Facebook Speed/Scrambler 400 pages and got some of the most ridiculous advice - “are you pulling the clutch in?” You don’t need to on this model. “Is the side stand down?” It doesn’t matter with this model. “Have you checked the kill switch” The bike turns over, it’s not the kill switch.
@Tobstertacoma
2 ай бұрын
This has done this to me more times than i can count. This video shows proof the kick stand was up, clutch was in and the kill switch was off and it still did it. So it back back from service with the codes cleared and a new update for the software and it STILL does it. It is going back to the shop for the second time for them to try to figure it out again. What a mess this is. I will never buy a Triump again that is for sure!!
Thanks for coming forward with the issues you're having. I wanted a Triumph T-120. They make some really nice looking bikes. I am on the fence when it comes to their issues with different things, concerning dependability.
@Tobstertacoma
Ай бұрын
Nothing but problems sine day one. But i sold it a week ago now and i bought a Suzuki so i will not have any problems because they know what they are doing when it comes to building bikes.
Might be an issue with the starter motor earth strap not being grounded properly due an overlong bolt being used. Easy enough to physically check.
Hello my street triple would light up dash lights just like your bike does then the engine would not crank as though the bike was totally dead switch off wait a five minutes then go through starting procedure again and bike would start eventually bike ecu light flashing no power to starter motor I charged the battery the bike started straight away. Two days later dash lights flashing no power to start starter motor not cranking fitted new battery never had any problems again starting bike started fist time every time for the next three years
It's gonna be a year after a couple of months here, not given me any trouble. You should definitely get it checked with the service guys tit looks like it needs a ECU s/w refresh!
Hello get the battery checked out I had a street triple exactly the same starting problems new battery fitted bike always started first time after the original battery was faulty
@Tobstertacoma
Ай бұрын
Brand new battery that the shop and me both tested and they said it was in good shape. This is a no start issues and not a cranking issue!!
I think your piece is defective. I am using for 7 months now just previous stalling issue I faced which was fixed by ecu update. then so far no problem at all. try to replace the whole bike.
Why don’t you pull the clutch.. its a Triumph. You have left hand holding the camera.
@Tobstertacoma
Ай бұрын
You do not need to do that, lol.
Hi, any updates on finding a solution to the problem?
@Tobstertacoma
2 ай бұрын
Nope, that want to replace the cluster and see if that is it but it of course is on back order.
@sorcerermax5111
Ай бұрын
@@Tobstertacoma This kind of quality or reliability is unacceptable from Triumph
Pull in the clutch lever.
@Tobstertacoma
Ай бұрын
It does NOT require that, lol.
Your key immobilizer sensor (red bell icon) is faulty, should be able to rectify with a software update
@vardangautam36
Ай бұрын
The red bell icon should not be there when you turn on the key, if it's there means the key is not getting ready by the bike ECU hence it doesn't respond to the ignition thinking it's not your key. It's a safety feature which is slightly misbehaving 😬
@vardangautam36
Ай бұрын
If you watch the video again you will notice the bell icon was light up when it didn't start but the last time it went off and the switch responded to the key inserted, ask the service center guys to check this you don't really need to change the cluster as I read in your earlier comments
@vardangautam36
Ай бұрын
One more thing, avoid using both the keys at the same time, as both the keys are coded with different codes at times they interfere with the signalling and hence the computer gets confused whether to allow the key to function or not. This might sound stupid to many but it actually makes a difference, all the things I have mentioned above are tried and tested here in India and these solutions actually work. Happy riding 😊