I hope someone at Car and Driver is listening when I say THIS is the sort of content we want to see. A PROPER rundown on the different mechanical differences and how it compares to the outgoing model. 2 minutes in and I hear this guy did suspension design for the previous gen Tacomas? Yep, I'll watch half an hour of whatever he is willing to tell me.

Most satisfying 2024 Tacoma view yet on the internet

One of the best in-depth breakdowns of the new Tacoma's suspension.

We need more Dan videos!

@EdwinCV-dh8qc

5 ай бұрын

Great,over the top info thanks.

Excellent to see real technical details in a KZread review, which are normally worthless and have no information beyond published marketing materials

For such a big company, I like it’s in Dan’s driveway

VERY HELPFUl to have someone with Dan's expertise do this video. MORE!!!!

Excellent video. Thanks for the in-depth overview. I was considering the SR5 vs the TRD OR and this gave me a lot more faith that they put in some real effort to developing the OR for better suspension performance.

Best rundown video of the new 24 Tacoma suspension!!!!

Thank you maestro! Toyota Tacoma suspension well explained. Definitely need to see more of your videos

Great episode as always. I owe a lot of my limited suspension knowhow to Dan Edmunds' suspension deep dives, not just on KZread but from the old blogs as well. Thank you for this great geeky content. A few requests if I may. Can we have similar episodes on F-150 Lightning and Ford Maverick because of their unique differences to the usual truck suspensions (I have been awaiting these 2 episodes ever since they were teased in one of the shorts on Dan Edmunds' own KZread channel.) In any case, thanks Dan and thanks C&D.

Great video Dan. Thank you for taking the time to discuss the new offroad with us. Just learned that my offroad has left Mexico and is enroute for delivery. Can’t wait!

Dan, I love these tests. Great objective information.

Fantastic review! Man I wished to see it do better than the 3rd gen pro

That's actually a pretty impressive improvement over the 3rd gen. Much better than the new tundra.

When he pulled out that Sharp calculator I knew he was for real…😅 appreciate the info and awesome video

Where has this guy been on the other review videos? Very in depth and informative! Car and Driver needs to use him in all their videos!

Amazing! Thank you so much for doing this Dan!

This was an awesome review. Cant wait for mine soon

This is a really good video; he knows what he is talking about big time! I am sticking with the older taco to many changes!

Great to 'see' you again, man. Hope you're well. Excellent detail and easy to comprehend. Helps me decide if im upgrading from my '19 TRD OR DCLB. Cheers, my friend.

Great demonstration, my friend, thank you

Thanks for sharing your whole KZread-wise unmatchable knowledge, I enjoyed so much.

Thanks Dan!

Awesome review, great depth

Dan is a gem! more videos from him!

@paulm6481

5 ай бұрын

Rubbish he is old

@4xfishhh

5 ай бұрын

⁠@@paulm6481who cares? he’s super knowledgeable. don’t be an ageist cuck

This is the stuff we need to see. Would love to see the new zr2 numbers as well as the ranger raptor and compare them all on the RTI leaderboard.

Perfect review of this car, nothing more 👍🏼

Very in depth and informative.

Dan’s the man!

Well done video. A rare thing

Great information shared here, I like it.

That's the beast on some beast mode vibes

Great overview and test. I was expecting a little more after the disconnect given how well the old Pro did but still seems to do very well. Wonder if the larger tire models will have additional travel limitation versus this.

great content

Great video I have the 3rd gen same exact truck in video . I'll be keeping my old Tacoma and getting the new 4th gen solar octane

Thanks for sharing this, Yuur info is golden I hope they'll also send you the DKR GR Hilux

Excellent video ! I’d love to see a video for the 5th-Gen 4Runner in anticipation of the 6th-Gen. would also be great to see the differences between the 4Runner & Tacoma, however minimal.

It's a cool feature to offer, glad they're doing it. I'd like to see a Gladiator on your board, I would guess that that would be over 600 disconnected.

Looking forward to see the flex index ramp findings when the Toyota Land Cruiser (LC250) and Lexus GX550 becomes available.

The stabilizer disconnect is the most exciting new feature for me. Can't wait to try that out. But WHY are they still using a single giant bolt for the UCA?? That's a nightmare for those of us who change out the UCA. ☹️

I love these comparisons, I was sad to see that C&D has a ZR2 loaner not too long ago yet you didn't get your hands on it!

Really can't believe this is possible!!

Lots of new repos coming! 😂 If I wanted it I would wait a few years

@flight2k5

5 ай бұрын

Repos?

@demal1010

5 ай бұрын

​@@flight2k5 Repossessions. Presumably they mean from people who can't afford it down the line.

The great thing about the Watts link and Panhard bar suspension systems is they can normally be converted from a solid axle leaf spring rear suspension system very easily from the factory. With better suspension articulation and control plus improved ride comfort over leaf springs. With the Watts link the better engineered choice for a couple of reasons. 😎🇦🇺

Nice pickup track

The wiring harness to the sway bar disconnect isn’t properly snapped in place. It’s really tight against the housing.

It would be interesting to contextualize this a bit with some consideration to the performance increase in the real world of a vehicle with a higher number on this Flex Index test. I see the obvious advantages of more flex when using open diffs, but this truck has super responsive traction control and a locking diff. It could probably drive right off the end of the ramp. What benefits in offroad does higher flex offer if you have diff locks or super effective traction control?

Split pin for lower ball joint is missing or not needed for this new model?

🔥🔥

Sweet video and super informative! I'm not super familiar with trucks in general so I can't tell and not sure if I missed it, but is this a 5 foot or 6 foot bed?

@ALMX5DP

5 ай бұрын

This looks to be the 5’ bed. The 6’ has more body colored area in front of the rear tire.

There have been a lot of reviews but no one has mentioned that the new 2024 Tacoma does not give you a real tire for a spare. Instead they give you a convenience tire mounted on a short trip rim. I’m sure glad I bought a 2023 instead as pulling my boat out of the water every week would kill the 4 cylinder.

Hi-Lift jack points in the back, but what if you need to change the front tires?

What happened to the old rankings? Now I’m going to have to keep a reference screenshot handy.

I had that calculator in high school... in 1989.

They did not add any more travel? Sway bar disconnect is nice, but I only know one person with the sway bar still on anyway. Idk if this will be better off-road. Also I heard the hitch is welded on, so no more after market bumpers without voiding warranty?

Please do this with new Colorado ZR2

Easily the best truck out there

Great Video! I got about 5 adds for womens soap while watching, so there must be something in the algorithm for folks interested in the Tacoma. I wont Judge

Maybe I missed it but the boxed frame is another big change that should be mentioned! Awesome review, otherwise! 👍

That color is beautiful! I wonder what it would look like in a couple of years when it fade.

@Jside68

5 ай бұрын

I ordered one. At home, it will be in the garage, hidden from the sun. I hope it doesn't turn into a washed-out pink!

@artiebucco9660

5 ай бұрын

Even better

We’d love to see how the 2nd & 3rd generation Frontier Pro4X does on your flex ramp!

@beexiong2995

5 ай бұрын

Bottom of the list.

@jasco1776

5 ай бұрын

@@beexiong2995 sorry man.. you were right. I think I misunderstood your comment. Looks like the frontier is at the bottom of the list with the RTI score.

If you have someone's ear at Toyota can you let them know you can't filter for sway bar disconnect when shopping online, I've been trying for weeks to look at inventory but it's very frustrating if you want that major new feature.

My question; is the swaybar on the SDM models thicker vs the NON-SDM models therefor offering much better ON-road handling? Much like 4runner KDSS.

Interested in new 4Runner, Land Cruiser, GX, Bronco, Raptor comparison on this index.

Will my 17” fj cruiser oem 17” steel wheels clear the brakes?

I wish you'd run thus test on a Gladiator Rubicon I'd like to see how close IFS has gotten to a solid axle set up

@teddonley9594

5 ай бұрын

Nevermind I saw it. Gladiator nearly drove off the end of the ramp. IFS is coming along but not there yet.

Get yourself a Thermacell to keep those mosquitos off while you do your thing. I've been using them for years and they're no joke.

I really want one, since I'm a current owner of a 3rd gen Taco, but the price point for the TRD Pro and Trail Hunter made me jump 3 miles back. I'll have to pass.

They got a name for what they did on the shocks. I just can't remember what it's called.

What truck had a 3.5 L V6?

Really surprised that the 3rd gen stock TRD Pro beats the 4th gen with disconnected sway bar.

No more KDSS on Toyotas?

Let's see the Cybertruck!

Why didnt my 2023 tundra trd offroad come with similar shocks 😅?

Wish they would of used KYB shocks over Bilstien

where window shop at?

The sway bar disconnect did more than I expected. Looks to me like you could fit 35s on there without too much drama.

did anyone notice the plug for the swaybar disconnect wasnt in all the way?

Why did you not test the TRD Pro truck with the Fox suspension

@murffly

5 ай бұрын

They aren’t available yet.

Toyota's CEO promise of preventing dealers price gouge was the biggest BS of the century, most if not all of the dealers around my area are asking well above 10k over MSRP, like 65k for a TRD Off road trim 🤬

there is no locking pin front steering knuckle. just thought I would point that out.

@07fsxt67

5 ай бұрын

Notice that too.

Why does Toyota not put in a auto mode in 4by 4

but why is the fuel tank so small but same MPG

I wish you would test the 2024 Colorado Trial Boss as its in the price range of the 2024 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off-Road in specs its a little behind on the suspension.

I imagine the trail hunter should be better, the TRD pro isnt meant to be a rock crawler more of a desert runner but we shall see

That’s a rugged and tough suspension system there

Does it not bother anyone else that the rear lower shock mount is so much lower than the axle ? That is going to be the first thing that you hit if you do hit something...

i had so many people tell me they were going to get the new tacoma but the price killed it for them. Sales numbers may be down due to pricing. Excited to see who is willing to have these high payments.

@Unimportantrichard

5 ай бұрын

Not me. Not enough bang for the buck now.

@DeuceDeuceBravo

5 ай бұрын

Toyota will still sell gazillions of these things. If you want bang-for-the-buck then the Frontier is the best option.

@beexiong2995

5 ай бұрын

If a guy who isn't a legal citizen and doesn't speak a word of English can get one, so can you

@rickeycooley9139

4 ай бұрын

@@DeuceDeuceBravothe frontier is not a Toyota, and the Toyota is not a frontier.

I just put a deposit on a TRD Off Road, I hope production is on time...

Can we put the 33” tires on this Tacoma ? sound like we can only put 32”

@masonthomas9671

4 ай бұрын

You should be able to put 33’s on the 4th gen Tacoma

I have a deposit down for this exact model but I’m thinking of passing on it. I just can’t justify the price increase. At that price, I might as well buy a full size truck.

@beexiong2995

5 ай бұрын

Checkout fullsize truck prices. A base 4x4 cost the same as this trd offroad. Base means no offroadtech. The offroad has all the technology a pro has minus the suspension

@BC_Hunter

5 ай бұрын

@@beexiong2995 I’ve looked at a Chevy Silverado 3.0 Duramax Trailboss with lots of extras and it will only be another $8k. My deposit was for the TRD OR Premium with the hybrid engine. That’s going to be probably another $5k there with that engine. That Toyota will probably be $75k all in. That’s f’n crazy for a mid sized truck.

Is this a pre production tacoma?

@demal1010

5 ай бұрын

He says so

Toyota sure likes using bolts that are alot longer then they need to be , think of the weight loss with shorter bolts as well as the ease of removal in the rust belt .

@ALMX5DP

5 ай бұрын

I only saw one that seemed a bit long, on the frame side panhard link. Everything else looked okay.

@rodgood

5 ай бұрын

Do you live in the rust belt ? and remove fasteners often ?@@ALMX5DP

@ALMX5DP

5 ай бұрын

@@rodgoodno, though I’m not sure what that has to do with my observation..

O man! Does it mean that this is a old man truck

Great info! Well done sir! Can you please do one for new Tacoma TRD-PRO. Also, one with Tundra TRD-OFF Road with factory TRD 3” lift kit.

That calculator came out between 1990 - 92.

3rd Gen Tacoma stops faster than 4th Gen & 4th is also 200+ lbs heavier! Eating into the extra torque it has... Motorweek 115' 60-0... Motor trend 4th gen 121' 60-0... 🤔

@Jside68

5 ай бұрын

TFL did some test and showed that the 4th gen stops way faster than the 3rd gen. They also did a drag race that was easily won by the 4th gen Tacoma.

@honda116969

5 ай бұрын

@@Jside68 .5 seconds also their 1 mile above sea🎚️+ had on 🆕 heavier E-rated tires.. the 4th Gen had on damn near Street tires compared with heavy duty All terrain. So put stock tires on the 3rd gen & sea level might be pretty DAMN close as if it wasn't already 😂... Look up the status I'm telling u where i got the info the 3rd Gen stops faster when stock!!

I wouldn't want any of my driving linkages to be made of aluminum 😵

It seems to me leaf springs would be more rugged.

@demal1010

5 ай бұрын

Leafs have less tunability bandwidth