Lot of talent and competetive cars in vintage FF A podium finish is something to be very proud of.

Holy cow this looks awesome !

Close. Close many times. But no cigar Jeffrey. No cigar for you!

@jeffreytz

2 ай бұрын

🤣🤣

@JB91710

2 ай бұрын

Read my comment to see why.

6:10 I am going to freely give away my knowledge of drafting and slipstreaming. As this car picks up the draft and gets closer and closer, you steadily lift Off the throttle as much as you can so that car in front is actually towing you through the vacuum they are creating as they push the air around their car. The front car is at maximum throttle and at maximum speed. The following car is at half throttle and at the same speed. When you pull out to pass you have 50% more throttle to drive you cleanly and quickly past the car in front. Notice how he pulls out and just stops. He has slammed into the compacted air on the side of the leading car but has no extra power to get by him. 8:10 See? This guy slammed into a brick wall with no extra power to push through that air. It seems that most drivers can't pull off a complete pass on the straight, so they have to rely on Late braking off the fastest line so both cars are slowed down and are either overtaken or lose the cars in front. 10:35 The Swift was probably able to gain so much more because of a cleaner car rather than slipstreaming skills because he should have been able to rocket by the camera car. Also, you don't slipstream in a FF while going uphill!!!!!! 10:50 This is when he should have pulled out with gravity assisting. 11:10 The Crossle driver is being way too impatient, isn't gaining anything and has no chance of passing and is going to exit the corner much slower than all the cars. 11:18 NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stay in the draft, be patient and then slipstream him father down the road. FFs need the draft to move ahead. Watch when he pulls back in. The lead cars have benefitted from the draft and being pushed, and the camera car is going to lose ground even though he is now in the draft because of a lack of speed. A really good drafter and slip streamer can literally leapfrog their way through the field.

@soccer14blood08

2 ай бұрын

I don’t think he was going for a drafted pass there. I think he was hoping I’d lift first so he could cut inside.

@jeffreytz

2 ай бұрын

Yeah totally agree with your comments and I was laughing at my impatience when I was reviewing the video footage. I did remember this about half way through the race but at that point I was really just trying to fill Dan's mirrors and pressure him, I really felt there was no point in passing him at Turn 1 just to get repassed going into 5, my plan was to try and pass at Canada Corner on the very last lap but I didn't get a good enough run and didn't want to push it in the first race of the season. Thanks for the detailed comments, really good stuff and will definitely keep top of mind for IMS next month!!

@JB91710

2 ай бұрын

@@soccer14blood08 But, that's what I mean. The worst possible way to get by a driver is entering a corner because you need momentum to go fast down the next straight. Any pass should be completed before the corner so you can get back on the fast line.

@JB91710

2 ай бұрын

@@jeffreytz Watch the movie Grand Prix when Garner explains drafting and slipstreaming at Monza. That's where and when I learned it. I'll tell you a little story. 1978 Super National at Watkins Glen. 64 car field. It was my first SCCA race out of the Skip Barber series that I won the year before. I was in a SB school Crossle 32F. I was being very careful in qualifying but still qualified third. In the race, I stayed behind 4 National Champions in 2-5 place so I could learn how they raced because I didn't learn anything in the SB series. Halfway through the race I realized that they had no idea how to draft and slipstream or how and where to pass. This confused me because I wasn't very confident so how could this be. I decided that maybe I should see what I could do. The man on the radar had told me I was the fastest car through the chicane that was in the Ss at that time so I would use that to my advantage gaining speed up the hill and out onto the straight. I was accelerating up to the fourth guy and lifting almost all the way off the throttle and was still being sucked up into them. The second and fourth car pulled out to pass so they were all side by side in two rows and were all stuck like that. I followed that fourth guy to the inside and then floored the throttle and shot past all four cars. I went from 6th to 2nd in one pass! In my first race of any kind in the SCCA. Past four National Champions, all because of what James Garder said. Now, here is where race strategy and patients come into play. I had the two Van Dieman factory team drivers behind me heading into the Boot. I had learned what they did to each other in the Toe of the Boot and knew I didn't want to be in front of them when they did that, so I let them both by me into the boot. The second one tried to pass his teammate and pushed him wide, and I just blasted pass them both as if they weren't even there and was back into second place. "Sometimes you have to go slow to go fast and sometimes you have to let people pass you so you can pass them."