Great footage! The 2024 BRZ looks impressive, and the in-car perspective really captures the driving experience. Looking forward to more videos!

Nice Savagegeese shoutout @6:45

Just tuned my GR86 on ecutek and man, what a difference that makes. Whole different car. Linear torque and and the power opened up so much. My favorite modification so far. 😎💯

Definitely know you're in Metro Detroit- pick-ups and SUV's everywhere and blotchy road surfaces. This is a really cool BRZ- great review.

Nice, I have a 2012 BRZ and those Brembos in the tS are a very awesome addition!

been waiting for your video over the brz ts trim, loved it

you've picked the right day to bring us around town. at least the sun was out

I love my 2022 brz, best choice I ever made but the TS is gorgeous! Can’t wait to see these on the road

This car looks perfect!

Great video. Please do another review with the proper Michelin tyres 🙏

2023 GR86 here... get a Drop Stop. Slides in between the seat and center console and fills the gap... or more importantly for the 86 is it makes a little padded compartment right next to the seat. 100% of the time that's where my phone goes. Then you don't throw it across the car when you take a corner with some enthusiasm

I’m content with my 23 BRZ, I just want the blue accented interior 😂

@TheTopher

4 ай бұрын

Right?!!

@boboobrob

4 ай бұрын

not a huge drawback for me, the red interior matches my red exterior

@michaelpedroza2612

4 ай бұрын

I really wish it was an option😢 hoping someone makes seat covers that have blue

I love the red accent stitching on my 23 magnetite grey BRZ Limited. TY very much! 😁

Topher my new favorite car reviewer😩

The comment about the GR86 having a more linear throttle is factually incorrect - the BRZ has a more linear throttle. Throttle mapping between the twins have been posted on the forums and has shown that the GR86 feels more responsive because torque demand by the throttle is significantly boosted at a lower accelerator position.

@HumorDash

4 ай бұрын

Does a peddle commander fix this to get more gr86 throttle response on the brz? I have a 22 brz and I test drove a gr86 before buying my brz.

@whereswaldo9089

4 ай бұрын

​@@HumorDashpedal commanders don't do anything 😂. You need a tune to fix or better word adjust that.

@BirdYYC

4 ай бұрын

​@@HumorDash The thing you need to ask yourself is why you would even want that in the first place? Just press the throttle pedal more in the BRZ. The BRZ having a more linear throttle means more room for adjustability when driving enthusiastically or at a track. The average person doesn't want to be aggressive or floor the accelerator, so the manufacturers all make throttle pedals that are too sensitive in the first 50% of pedal travel. Having that makes the consumer feel good that they aren't driving the car hard and gives them a "wow" factor during the test drive, but for sports cars, it's a negative.

@bearclaw5115

4 ай бұрын

You are correct good sir. Besides style, the biggest difference between the two cars is that the GR86 has a more immediate feel to the throttle, suspension and steering. And the BRZ leans towards a more restrained and refined throttle and ride. Personally I'm inclined to the base 86 and take the savings and apply them to my own mods with the goal being weight savings and more responsiveness overall.

@BirdYYC

4 ай бұрын

​@@dr.magnanimous8973the GR86 outsells the BRZ because Subaru is contracted to build three 86's for every one BRZ. The 86 has outsold the BRZ every year because of this. Your analogy is idiotic.

Im not a car dude who understands cars, but this car transition is so smooth

was able to fit 17 x 8 ( on 225/45r17 ) Enkei PF09 w 40 offset on the Brembo Performance Pkg. on a 2018 BRZ w around 2mm clearance on the front calipers. So far happy w the Brembos as I can change pads easily and so far no fade at moderate pace. Also found the offset more.similar to stock (better turn-in & feel) as compared to initially when I had 3mm spacers for brake clearance. Thanks for the solid review brother!💯

Is the steering feel the same as your 2022? Noticed throttle house and you both mention steering not being a strong suit on the ts and I can't work if it's a shift in feelings or it has gotten worse.

I think having those Brembo brakes inspires confidence.

I see all the silver interior pieces are blacked out, really dig the look. will probably swap those over to my 2023

Would have been nice to see a bit more for the tS perhaps an exhaust or gold wheels

Those gold calipers give STi vibes, I love it. I think you're right, though-buying the base model and upping the brakes is the move. Hopefully they address the oil takeup issue through right-hand corners on the track.

@ruturaj47

4 ай бұрын

That's not going to happen from the factory.

@hhaste

22 күн бұрын

@@ruturaj47 Correct. Luckily, there is an aftermarket piece about to go into production that solves the issue. 900BRZ's KZread channel has the information on it.

@ruturaj47

22 күн бұрын

@@hhaste verus already revealed the oil pan. It works with stock headers after removing heat shield, the shape is very odd. I would much rather prefer oil pan that works with unequal headers which give most clearance, oil capacity on those can be much higher, and the design would be engineered for performance than trying to fit around headers.

Had this been without the Eye Sight, I would have happily grabbed this edition. I owned the the 2015 Aozora special edition with the blue stitching and it was a perfect visual pairing. But I don't want to be a guinea pig for the Eye Sight setup in manual. Sorry. I grabbed a '23 and Krown-ed it based on your comments. Boy it dripped a lot :/ But now it is a great car to drive and enjoy. Might swap in some fancy parts, but truthfully, it simply rocks as is. I never should have given up my 2015, but at least now I have a chance to keep this beastie for a long time.

Hi there, in one of your older videos I noticed that your battery voltage gauge jumped in values, mine does that too (I bought a 2017 gt86 1 month ago) is that normal?

Waiting for your review on the WRX TR

Road noise/NVH comparison between this BRZ and your Type R, with equivalent winter/winter or PS4/PS4 S tires?

Honestly, I disagree with your take on the GR vs BRZ throttle tuning. I think the BRZ throttle tuning is way better than the GR86, and I say this as someone who bought a GR86. If you look at actual throttle maps from the ECU, the BRZ is much more linear. The GR is WOT at ~45% pedal travel vs ~85% for the BRZ. It makes the GR feel "peppy" when you're driving around town and giving it 20% pedal input and getting 50% throttle opening, but it makes throttle modulation more difficult and I'd prefer if it were more linear. I've learned to drive around it, but it's still an annoyance, probably my single biggest gripe with the car. If not wanting to avoid mucking up my powertrain warranty, I already would have tuned the car not for power but literally just to fix the throttle mapping. I want it to feel like a cable throttle. IMO, they both have too little throttle response for the first 5-10% of pedal travel when the car is stopped, which feels very odd. Once you get rolling, gentle throttle inputs elicit a response, but when you're dead stopped with the clutch in, you have to give it considerably more throttle than you'd expect to get a response out of the engine. It's a really weird feeling and not something I've experienced in any other car. I don't know why they made the throttle less responsive at a stop than when rolling, it makes no sense at all.

@johneldepresso

4 ай бұрын

Man i miss cable throttles, they just felt more natural

Ordered a new Brz ticked the new spoiler but I can’t find a picture of the spoiler on the car have you ever seen one?

would be really impressed if you could do one of an skoda felicia pickup

Did they fix the oil pan gasket degradation issue?

Very on point with the review

Re: phone storage - I ordered a 2 pocket black cubby thing that attaches via velcro. It's about the size of a standard mailing envelope. Placed along the vertical section of the center column forward of the parking brake. Fits my phone and garage door opener.

I love this package, but I wish subaru would have added all the STI bits that the japanese catalogs offer to make it more of an STI. I plan to that to my 23 BRZ to make my own STI, but having it from factory would have been mega nice!

tS stands for Teased by STi.

youtubers upload brz ts vid: i sleep topher uploads brs ts vid: BABE WAKE UP

when are you going to try the tesla cybertruck?

unfortunate that the tS trim doesnt come with more sti accessories like a lip skit or a more aggressive exhaust like the gr performance exhaust

Do you have a video coming for the 2024 GR86?

Hello all I’m new to BRZ/GR86 platform. Cross shopping both, my goal is to track car at Limerock, Monticello Raceway, as well as New Jersey motorsport park. As well as enjoy some backroads in NYS. I’ve been lurking around forums gathering information on both. Not new to tracking cars, I’ve been tracking my FBO tuned &Trans tune e85 2011 IS-F with KWv3 coilovers, urethane bushings, new control arms along with whole host of suspension upgrades weight reduction car for 13yrs now. Looking for smaller lighter weight platform now, something different. The IS-F is staying looking to add a new stable mate for IS-F. Since BRZ & GR86 are very similar which of these two cars would be the better option? The MX-5 is also in the mix.

Best 36K money can buy for a sports car. Period.

@NDEEZMiata

4 ай бұрын

Nah, Miata is better

@meadowz06

3 ай бұрын

@@NDEEZMiata Just sold my 19 RF GT miata. Great car. Too small. My TS handles better.

@aquifer9480

3 ай бұрын

Manual Mustang GT is objectively better car. Id still take the Twins because I like the styling more.

Not related to this video but What are you using to mount the camera for POV shot with a helmet on the track? I do see the hat clip mount link but assuming that would not work on a helmet

@TheTopher

4 ай бұрын

Go pro j hook mount and a couple extensions right on the forehead area of the helmet does the trick 👍

What would you prefer overall BRZ or GR86??

the only thing they need to add are those STI branded forged wheels you could get on the last gen

2024 Subaru BRZ ❤️❤️❤️❤️

They should take your suggestions and rebadge it TbT Tuned by Topher. I am happy with having the base model. For autocross the brakes would be nice but aren’t essential. Eyesight isn’t a draw for me.

@TheTopher

4 ай бұрын

That would be the dream 😂👍

@aroundomaha

4 ай бұрын

@@TheTopher I wouldn't safari mine, but like the rest of your mods, especially the creative tire fitments you've done. If you made a TbT badge for merch, I'd slap it on the BRZ.

my AT 23BRZ (japan) has that little mobile "cubbie" where you wished all brz models had it. some do 😊 (AT be do)

Smooth

Bro try to cover different roads for drive pov

To be fair winter tries give much less road feedback via steering wheel than summers. Not that this car has a great steering feedback or anything but I wished gr brz had a better communication steering like an old school BMWs and better brake bite feel also like BMWs. Another small complaint would be more progressive clutch feel and this car would be perfect. And no in doesn’t need more power or turbo

@entropy11

4 ай бұрын

clutch pedal spring really helps more than you can imagine. It gets rid of that 'kick' that tries to push you off the pedal at the top of engagement.

I want those seats on my wrb

I have the 2024 BRZ and already engaged the emergency stop feature (half way stopped while still in 4th gear) when someone in front slows/stops abruptly. It gave a grinding sound that I’m not sure is a concern and if I should just turn off.

@gorrbs

4 ай бұрын

The grinding sound could be your anti-lock braking system?

@ashen_rychi

4 ай бұрын

I also have a '24 BRZ. That grinding is ABS. It's not harmful, just loud. If your foot is on the brake pedal when it activates, you should be able to feel it vibrate/bounce there with that ABS noise.

@KingOfEden12

4 ай бұрын

You use cruise control in 4th gear ?

@harris7963

4 ай бұрын

@@KingOfEden12no, not using cruise control on 4th. This is when the car automatically engages just the emergency brakes (beeping sound) if the sensor detects that you’re getting too close to the car in front to avoid rear-end crashes

@2015BLOXXER

4 ай бұрын

I’d ask Scotty Kilmer

The stereo camera's are a nice touch. PS4 tires are not that bad.

Compare to Cayman ?

What’s the top speed

Ooooo. I wish my '23 WRX had the adaptive CC. Still need 4 seats, so the BRZ will have to wait.

I’ve heard rumors of talk of them putting the GR Corolla 3cyl turbo in the next refreshed models of the BRZ/GR86. If that’s true it will make this car so much better. Misha Charoudin or however you spell his last name, was talking about it on his last video. The one with Gas Monkey Garage in the title.

Вы самый лучший авто обзорщик!!!!

@tommy_clayton

4 ай бұрын

Поддерживаю

Does the Lane keep assist actually steer the car within the lane or would it just give you a warning if you step over the lane?

@J_S209

3 ай бұрын

Warning.

OMG, the Michelin tires are not that loud. I have a TS and a 13 FRS, and my FRS has brand new Dunmlop tires. They are not any quieter than the Michelins. Throttle response is crisper in my auto 13 FRS. Steering is much heavier in the 13 FRS too.

I really think that the 2022/2023 GR86's and BRZ's without the eyesight system from Subaru will hold their value more over the ones with the eyesight.

Hey topher, is it worth buying the 1st gen BRZ's? How was you experience with them?

@TheTopher

4 ай бұрын

Absolutely! You have to rev them out a little more to get into the powerband but they’re a really fun and practical option.

@DarthVader-1701

2 ай бұрын

​@@TheTopherThey also don't have the oil starvation issues like the FA24.

My dream car. If i cant afford GT3 RS :d

i remember hearing from an sti owner who tracked his car, that the brakes were expensive to replace (rotors i believe). I hope this is not the case for the ts. The cost of running brembos i guess

@jukeboxzero1

4 ай бұрын

a pair of Brembo rotors for an '04 STI can be had for $216 online.

I've always wondered what the BRZ/GR86 would be like if they gave it a turbo, cause it's such a great chassis, you wonder what it would be like if it actually had some torque.

@Barbwire710

4 ай бұрын

JDL has a turbo kit and videos of it running..

@andrewchang7194

4 ай бұрын

Speculation but fun to discuss nonetheless. It would ruin the car unless they were able to add forced induction and fix the oiling system (Porsche boxers have an oil sump built into the engine to prevent this while the GR86/BRZ doesn’t have anything besides oil pickup tube) without ruining the weight distribution. The car is currently 53/47 front/rear with an NA engine. If they turbo’d the car as it is without a major redesign, you would get maybe 280-300 BHP instead of the reported 230, and it would ruin the weight distribution. Also, they’d have to reinforce everything. The transmission, differential, axles, connecting rods in the engine, etc. Just some projections, but the car, as it is, is currently not designed for anything more than like 250 WHP and like 200 Wtq (based on experience with 1st gen GT87/BRZ ricers). Turbo-ing a car PROPERLY is not a simple bolt-on + ECU flash that these ricers make you think it is. You also need to think about marketing and demographics as well. You’re probably talking about a $45,000 car instead of a $32,000 car with these additions (it might only add about $3k in additional parts, but they also have to redesign the chassis in some way as well, so add R&D costs to it). That puts it in entry-level BMW, Audi, Lexus territory. The BRZ/GR86 is a MUCH harder sell vs high performance luxury car category than it is vs budget sports cars (Miata, Civic SI, maybe Elantra N). The Elantra N is a unicorn of sorts, but it’s also FF instead of FR, so it’s not a fair comparison from a price perspective.

@user-ix9hl4uw5i

4 ай бұрын

Hopefully, you know that Subaru is partially owned by Toyota.... consequently, the production & sale strategy is made at the same place / headquarters. That means, NO more power will be added to BRZ/GR86 due to Lexus RC that has turbo / more power / cost more.

@Barbwire710

4 ай бұрын

@@user-ix9hl4uw5i and the 2.0T BMW Supra on Toyota’s end. And the 2.4T Subaru WRX on Subaru’s end.

@DarthVader-1701

2 ай бұрын

Cosworth parts might be a better route, extra power without forced induction.

Dam. Fa24 out here doing smiles per gallons NA and boosted. 😮

7:17 that's EXACTLY what I would do. You want to have an open road for the turn and onramp. Man of my own heart. On a separate note, I still don't know how you don't lose your shit at terrible drivers, it's actually mind-bending how stupid most drivers are.

I cannot live with the dash lights staying on when TCS is off. That would drive me insane during an HPDE or autocross event.

This is not helping me in finding my next manual car to buy 😂 Great video as always Topher.

@Sketchy_Trip

4 ай бұрын

Get a 6th gen celica

@eabdic1

4 ай бұрын

@@Sketchy_Trip damn I haven’t seen a Celica in a long time

Why is there such a long delay between the gear change on the dash?

@AR-ld8qd

4 ай бұрын

I don’t think it has sensors for the gear, it calculates the gear based on speed and rpm, so it only shows it after clutch out.

@entropy11

4 ай бұрын

One of my annoyances, the gear display is delayed by several seconds.

FYI - spare is likely not to fit with the brembo's. May have to source from another vehicle

@TheTopher

4 ай бұрын

That’s a good point, you’d need a performance pack/TRD specific previous gen 17x4” spare from Toyota or Subaru

Wonder why STI never really made a combeack? Type r civic type s Integra and GR corolla are very popular!

@janoskovacs11

4 ай бұрын

Subaru is a much smaller company, they have to spend almost all of their money on hybridization/ electrification of the future.

@user-ix9hl4uw5i

4 ай бұрын

To be correct, hybridization/ electrification is coming exclusively from Toyota (Toyota partially owes Subaru)@@janoskovacs11

@jaron95

4 ай бұрын

This trim level is called "STI Sport" in Japan. Problem is no one in the US understands what "STI" means.

Do you hear the humming noise around 4k-6k rpm?

@2015BLOXXER

4 ай бұрын

It could be the fake sounds that are built in

A manual with Subarus eyesight, finally!

@ytj22

4 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, yes.

@therealnvey6924

4 ай бұрын

what? you must be the onyl person in the world rooting for that

@galuhrichata6148

4 ай бұрын

Eyesight can come in handy when you are tired while driving home from work. When you are weary, or anything which gives you not the mood of driving, you can get careless. And that’s Eyesight may somehow save someone’s life. And we can just turn it off anytime you don’t want or need it.

@Userxxx840

4 ай бұрын

@@ytj22it shouldn’t be an issue if you’re driving responsibly to begin with: *using turn signals *not tailgating *staying in your lane Not signaling, tailgating, and crossing double yellows will almost certainly trigger the system.

@ytj22

4 ай бұрын

@@Userxxx840 Exactly, so why am I paying for yet another thing I don't want or need? At least cars aren't overpriced or expensive nowadays 👍

I'm considering a BRZ, and wondered what the winter driving experience is like? I know it sounds crazy, but I'd be trading in a 2022 WRX for a 2024 BRZ.

@Itsdjsigi

3 ай бұрын

Haha I love it, good for you

now try the 2024 gr86

Does the boxer engine still have oil issues

Are Savagegeese and Duck Demuro cousins? 6:45 😊

i wish the infotainment was more updated

How defeatable is the Eyesight stuff? Can you permanently disable all of it?

@rturner4205

4 ай бұрын

The Auto braking defaults to on every time you start the car, I believe you can turn the lane departure off though.

@nicholasbrown1115

4 ай бұрын

If you don’t feel like turning it off everytime, then you can just put a piece of tape over the camera. It is next to your rearview mirror.

Very, very cool car. If I wasn't so in love with my Miata I could sell it and my GTI and have one of these and I could get an old Radwood car again. But I still haven't found a better 'new' car than my Miata

@TheTopher

4 ай бұрын

Miata is still the answer!

@AndreThompson925

4 ай бұрын

@@TheTopher next time your in Nor Cal the invitation is always open to drive my mildly modified ND2 (suspension, exhaust) or my Great Falls Green GTI with a tune. Both are manuals if you're ever interested. Cheers 🤝

@TheTopher

4 ай бұрын

That’d be awesome, thanks for the offer! I need to make it out there again to film with Zygrene

@TTGamingTrinh

4 ай бұрын

How are you liking the miata and gti combo? And which gti gen do you have??

@AndreThompson925

4 ай бұрын

@@TTGamingTrinh sorry for the late reply. I absolutely love this combo. Both are fun to drive, and offer completely different driving experiences. My GTI is a mk7.5 SE manual and it has a few must have mods (IMHO), tune, intake and short shifter.

My dream car... hopefully one day I will afford it

@shamsaddinamanov3879

4 ай бұрын

@RedPanda_______ if I lived in US, yes I would manage it easily. But I work in Hungary, and saving 40,000$ would take years. About 10 years or more

@Mr.Sanch0

4 ай бұрын

@@shamsaddinamanov3879oh lord at this point be the next Chapo 🤷🏽‍♂️

@shamsaddinamanov3879

4 ай бұрын

@@Mr.Sanch0 what do you mean, I didn't get it :)

@Mr.Sanch0

4 ай бұрын

@@shamsaddinamanov3879 it was a joke, but El Ch*** was a d**g lord he started from nothing and went from one of the most famous ones. He was rich is what in trying to say, but obviously went down the wrong path.

@yuezuha7970

4 ай бұрын

@@shamsaddinamanov3879 sell drugs😂 is what he meant

If i get one like i will get one this year or next.

@tigertrac4287

4 ай бұрын

Welp time to get one coming soon

I notice some of the buttons are now blacked out like the climate control buttons and the traction control/ vsc. You also get blacked out mirror caps and shark fin antenna.

Yeah there's nothing linear about the GR86 throttle mapping.

Gun to head and you have a practical second car. This or Miata?

@porfiriato84

3 ай бұрын

So violent

That grey SUV, keeps messing with you. All the best

It's STRANGE that EyeSight doesn't auto-rev-match. The COMPUTER is controlling the throttle. It SHOULD rev-match for you on cruise.

Also: with the platform most likely going away next year, I don’t see a reason for them to put any real R&D into the tS model. The platform is supposed to be getting a redesign and Subaru is out of the equation. Makes no sense for them to do much further than they did.

3:15 what is it and why its so loud?

@yauyulam2

4 ай бұрын

engine sound

@smokedsalad8958

3 ай бұрын

Its the high pressure fuel pump for the direct injection

Can you do a 2024 Scion FR-S?

How is this car for chubbier people? I would like to try it out but I am worried I will be too cramped

@tastypigeon86

4 ай бұрын

Assuming the 2nd gen is the same size inside as the 1st, I had no issue when I was 130kg (195cm tall), and I seem to recall the seats in the 2nd gen have a bit wider bolstering than the 1st gen, so I would think it would even be a bit better, hope that helps!

@AntilleanConfederation

4 ай бұрын

You could workout and lose weight to be able to fit in it nicely. Not only do you get what you want. But you’ll be healthier and feel better

Kinda bummed it's called tS and not BRZ STI. 30ish years of brand cache wasted. Also kinda bummed "tS" doesn't stand for "twin screw Supercharger". Factory boosted BRZ would be awesome.

We're diminished as car enthusiasts for Mazda not giving us a PROPER Mazdaspeed ND Miata and Subaru not giving us a PROPER STi BRZ.

I just wish it didn't cost so much in europe due to this damned regulations. Around 60k used here is france

The Subaru eyesight is actually exceptionally nice.

@AntilleanConfederation

4 ай бұрын

Is not. Shit is annoying

cheapest 2022 regular USED BRZ is 36000$ where I live... Insane. I've given up on ever buying a fun new car...

@instinct1128

4 ай бұрын

If you’re willing to make a drive, in Las Vegas, there are 2 Subaru dealerships that do not do markups, super easy to work with and they make you feel at home there, I bought my 23 brz from them and they were great to deal with. I got mine at MSRP and they even threw in a couple extra little things including a $25 gas card with the full tank of gas and an emergency kit

@denikec

4 ай бұрын

Sadly I live in Eastern Europe so it's not really possible. I'm happy for you though man, hope you enjoy the car! As I see dealerships don't even have it here, and the cheapest USED model I saw was like 36k. I make like 9.5$ per hour which is considered very good here, so yeah it's not a car for the average person here.

that black climate control switchwork 👀

jesus 36K is steep

Isn't $37k a bit too much for this car? Would anyone pay for one at this price range?

still has the interior buzz from the fake engine sound speaker.

@TheTopher

4 ай бұрын

So annoying!

@janoskovacs11

4 ай бұрын

@@TheTopher is there any way to turn it off?

@alexp6409

4 ай бұрын

@@janoskovacs11very easy to unplug it.