I'm glad Thomas was calling out the poor build quality I think it's something other reviewers would've completely ignored

@pan4632

2 ай бұрын

Other reviewers would spend the whole review talking about the screen and 0-60 time. Throttle house don’t even mention those 👏🏽👏🏽💯

@elimcfly350

2 ай бұрын

All I could look at the entire video was the uneven gap in that back interior panel.

@bozhidardimitrov3573

2 ай бұрын

​@@elimcfly350oh my god, can't unsee it now

@timsautovision6145

2 ай бұрын

Mercedes build quality is a joke and had been for many years

@ogabchemseddine1654

2 ай бұрын

Of course, they are bmw fanboys, they said that before.

Bruh the german master race bit has me dying

@Andrewjceballos

2 ай бұрын

The fact that its called master race is hilarious

@morstyrannis1951

2 ай бұрын

Fits nicely with Jeremy Clarkson's comments about sat nav only showing directions to Poland.

@robiulahmed

2 ай бұрын

That was gold 😂

@DaGoook

2 ай бұрын

You must be Jewish...

@Fc-cb3tn

2 ай бұрын

Mercedes really are proud of their heritage 😂

I wanted to get SL63 but using the roof via the screen was a deal breaker, so I bought a Corolla

@laloaguirre9847

2 ай бұрын

Good choice

@brabecjakub

2 ай бұрын

Same. Plus it has better consumption

@embiggens1

2 ай бұрын

The Corolla convertible is nice. And as a bonus, slightly better mileage in the city.

@mikedelape6609

2 ай бұрын

poor people problems, thank god im not that!! thank you hedge fund!!

@twfinc6855

2 ай бұрын

I would rather own the previous gen... you don't need all wheel drive it's over 400 lb heavier I miss my 2018

And that's why I respect this channel. They have no mercy for producers and expose all their mistakes and stupid savings on quality. Keep it up .

@mediocreman2

2 ай бұрын

You can only really afford to do that once you've established yourself.

@LenfordLennyLeon

2 ай бұрын

I guess that is why they usually get the cars from dealers and not from manufacturers...

@LoganSLRLockwood

2 ай бұрын

A lot of their reviews, especially for performance or luxury cars, use dealership or subscriber vehicles. It's a more frequent observation with TH than with any of the other car reviewers I watch where they ask their fanbase on social media if there's anyone with a cool car willing to have it reviewed. The pro of this is they can be as critical as they want to be for the car they review. This also allows them to do more with the cars they're given (track tests, old vs new, drag races). The main con is they don't get invited by manufacturers themselves for early access reviews and whatnot as often as other reviewers do. This isn't to say they don't ever get invited to press events. They do, and those videos are very obviously very different to reviews like this one where they drive a car ~2 years after release and give an honest critique of it, or reviews where they drive a subscriber's or have a dealership's car.

@chartreux1532

2 ай бұрын

If you mean the Panel Gap, this is a Press Car. Any Car Journalist will tell you that the Cars they get every now and then from any Brand have either Issues or some lower Quality than the Production Cars

@marioboss79

2 ай бұрын

My main concern was the poor quality of the paint on the body. Nobody talks about it, but I, as a painter, pay attention to it.@@chartreux1532

That paint on an almost $200k car is absolutely inexcusable

@matmul4850

2 ай бұрын

And the shody build quality.

@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13

2 ай бұрын

Yep... Fair to say Merc build quality ain't what it used to be. That would drive me up the God damned wall if it were mine. I used to build road train trailers for a living (I'm in Australia) and that level of finish would be unacceptable for a semi trailer, let alone a luxury car. Not even close to good enough.

@Solstare

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely nothing wrong with the paint

@pieswimmer1

2 ай бұрын

​@@Solstarewhy are you d riding for Mercedes

@ruckuswithani4451

2 ай бұрын

@@SolstareTrue, it's just textured for style

3:06 As soon as the camera cuts to them driving, you can tell the panel between rear seats is crooked. Good review gents

@estebanp6391

2 ай бұрын

Once you see it.. you cant think in nothing else...

@qpwoeiruty108

2 ай бұрын

i bet it wasn't crook the moment it came out of assembly line

@MrElapid

Ай бұрын

@@qpwoeiruty108 No orange peel either?

As a Lexus owner, THANK YOU for recommending the LC500 every chance you get! Same with the Straight Pipes. There's no surprise that so many reviewers love it. Immaculate design, build quality, engine sound, and luxury, all for much less than all its competitors. All the reasons I love Lexus.

@TheBucketOfTruth

2 ай бұрын

Problem with that car is I already have a sports car, so having that on top isn't practical. If they did an LS F with that motor and that gorgeous interior I'd buy the shit out of it. But just wish they had a more practical version. IS500 just isn't quite the item that those are.

@pyramo3170

2 ай бұрын

I daily an IS500 and these things need more attention.

@abrahammendoza7620

2 ай бұрын

Shhh, they'll accumulate value, and then I won't be able to get a used one.

@Unicornpirate

2 ай бұрын

@@TheBucketOfTruth They did that already. It's called the GS-F.

@TheBucketOfTruth

2 ай бұрын

@@Unicornpirate It's ugly and it's not as nice inside as an LC500 at all. And it's not an LS.

Look at the fit of the trim between the rear seats at 4:16. Lovely job Mercedes, simply lovely.

@pan4632

2 ай бұрын

tesla level panel gap

@siddhj2206

2 ай бұрын

I was about to say that. Every time I see that panel gap I think how such a thing could cost *breath* 190,000 USD!! And it is not even subtle. How did thing pass QC and dealer inspection.

@mordredm980

2 ай бұрын

@@pan4632 Honestly, I've never seen a Tesla or really any new cars with interior panel gaps like this, this is on a whole other level.

@2JZDestroyer

2 ай бұрын

they took a serious nose dive with that one.

@jonmadden59

2 ай бұрын

I think that might be camera distortion tbh, very wide angle

The crooked line in the back between the to headrests is driving me crazy

@WhaddupImJohn

2 ай бұрын

I cant unsee it thank you

@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13

2 ай бұрын

Yeah Merc build quality sure ain't what it used to be. That type of thing would drive me up the God damned wall.

@Tahvyy

2 ай бұрын

It looks like you could just hit it back in place. Someone may have leaned on it or tried to put a camera 📷 on it. Who knows.

@WhaddupImJohn

2 ай бұрын

@@Tahvyy id take it back to the dealership and make them fix it

@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13

2 ай бұрын

@@Tahvyy Yeah and the orange peel in the paint will buff out... Once you buff ALL the paint off and apply it properly.

Wow that door trim flex, a Mercedes from the 90s and before would never do that

@omidnamin9004

2 ай бұрын

absolute joke of a quality in a car this price. not to mention the orange peel in the paint

@winstonlindley1819

2 ай бұрын

As an owner of a 1998 SL500, I can confirm.

@evoviiiyou831

2 ай бұрын

Same here 2006 SL65 here and no flex and I also have master race mode. It’s called turn off traction ESP, put her in sport mode, ABC to sport, renntech tune, and drag radials,

@DoSum4Me

2 ай бұрын

Our former 2010 C350 felt super solid, it’s a shame Mercedes quality is what it is now, I was recently driving a 2019 E53 AMG and was appalled at how cheap the inside felt.

@Tahvyy

2 ай бұрын

@@winstonlindley1819 I want the older SL like yours, any issues with yours???

"Master Race mode" - We at Mercedes are proud of our heritage

@ThePilotGear

2 ай бұрын

ahhhhhhh I get it now. Mercedes...come on...lol

That paint is BRUTAL!!!

@krane15

2 ай бұрын

Unacceptable. Send it back.

I'm surprised they didn't mention this compared to an BMW M8 Competition convertible. The M8 is also a twin-turbo V8, is just as fast if not faster, handles better, has better interior quality, and it costs much, much, much less.

@recklessrobert1966

2 ай бұрын

Great point. Even optioned out with everything the M8 Competition convertible is still cheaper than the base price of SL63

@TheBucketOfTruth

2 ай бұрын

I bet it rides like ass too. Probably worse than this one.

@WeVisitTravelGuide

2 ай бұрын

Because it’s not as nice

@anordinarytree4425

2 ай бұрын

Well, the main theme of this review i think, is that the LC500 undercuts everything in its class including bmw

@BananaRama1312

2 ай бұрын

​@@anordinarytree4425Looks shitty tho

What's crazy is that the LC500 design has been around for some time and I believe it is better and more timeless for $80K less. I think it shows how good Lexus got the LC500 design down.

@gregorygant4242

2 ай бұрын

The SL is still a legend , has been for the past 70 years no matter what you think about it now !

I didn't realize how much more expensive this is to the LC500C, even the SL55 is a long way above, and I don't think 4wd and a tomb stone slapped right in the middle of the car would lead to a 40% price increase from the LC500C

@edombre4637

2 ай бұрын

they look "so toyota" though

@jkliao6486

2 ай бұрын

@@edombre4637That's the kind of thing people say when they really have to hate on things out of thin air. The LC500C doesn't look like a rav4, in case you don't have eyes.

@alsayedfakhri4597

2 ай бұрын

​@@edombre4637 It looks 'toyota' is hardly a slight when it's considered one of the most beautiful cars on the road.

that misaligned panel in between the rear seat head rests...bruh. LC500 ftw.

All the dentists watching this 👁👄👁

Extra throttle house is my absolute ideal type of review. No fluff, just straight to the car and honestly riffing about how good/bad it is.

I own an SL63 and must say I was so surprised by how comfortable it is especially on UK roads, likewise with OPF filters the engine sounds incredible. For anyone interested in one i'd suggest test driving it. One of the main reasons I chose an SL over a 911 was the sound.

@Mandingy24

2 ай бұрын

For the money the AMG GT honestly seems like a much better value, but i havent driven either so i cant really say for sure

@2JZDestroyer

2 ай бұрын

r231 was a better car , and thats surprising@@Mandingy24

@lesegoramasika5578

2 ай бұрын

This is one channel that I know you won't hear anything positive about Mercedes..sl63 is a better car than a porsche the sound adds to the fun

@christopherjiang4007

2 ай бұрын

@@Mandingy24 Can't really daily drive a pre-gen GT compared to SL

I'm so glad I got my S63 Cabrio pre-facelift: the same grille DNA as all of its predecessors going back decades, and outstanding build quality. And that thing under the hood... the 5.5L V8. Oh yeah. Sweetness. 2 million pound curb weight, so not going to race anybody, but that's not my thing. Oh, does it cruise. Great GT!

Master race -mode, lol.

@ouimongate5961

2 ай бұрын

Hahahaha james is jewish thats why they didnt let him be a master race

Sad to see how Merc treats its flagship cars. It’s part of the business side of the company to cut costs and create profits, but it’s just disheartening to see how the quality of the brand has fallen so far in the past 40 years.

@2JZDestroyer

2 ай бұрын

I'll say it again the last good SL was the R129, the last good sports coupe was the GT Black series.

@gregorygant4242

2 ай бұрын

It's not just MB nobody really wants expensive luxury roadsters any more , everybody (like the US) just wants stupid big luxury SUV's now and these cars aren't sought after like they were in the past !

I can’t unsee that rear panel 😮

Being honest in this is so important, I appreciate all the nitpicking too!

I love your videos so much! When I look at a vehicle I always look first to see if you guys have reviewed it first thing

That driver perspective should be in more of your videos. Really enjoyed that shot. Please add to more of your videos.

Incredible audio quality with the top down

the master race bit 🤣🤣🤣🤣

This video made me feel better. Thank you ❤

The panel gap between the rear seats deffers left and tright. 😁 The sound quality of your vid is top notch 🙂

Perfect timing, just sitting down for a coffee.

A C8 convertible costs a lot less and has a lot of the thing they’re asking for, weight, sound, and interior wise!

That gopro over the shoulder is Great. Nice to have a drivers view in a Review

I passed you guys going the opposite direction in a 500 Abarth when you were filming this. Little T FTW!

5:00 Not sure a German product should market "master race". 🙈

@___MilkMan___

2 ай бұрын

That was the joke genius, good job for explaining the obvious

LC500 all the way! F this thing.

That camera angle behind Thomas head is really neat. Plus with the top down, great sound from the engine.

F-Type vert or coupe in AWD Supercharged V8 from right before the uglier refresh for ~$50k is a helluva bargain and makes the best noises and better handling?

The “Master Race” thing had me rolling 🤣💀

When Thomas suggested the horsepower per pound law I applauded. Yes, yes and yes

@mediocreman2

2 ай бұрын

And torque. And let's get a chart that shows power under the curve. Oh that might be too much for consumers. 😅

@brownshit1

2 ай бұрын

You mean power to weight ratio?

@krane15

2 ай бұрын

Thing is, the cars are still so fast that the horsepower-to-weight ratio becomes insignificant.

@ct1762

2 ай бұрын

@@krane15umm its literally physics. there is no getting around it, weather a car is subjectively fast to some people or not.

'Masterace mode' I'm dead 😭😆

This is the best 10 minute review, IN THE WORLD!

Thank you for the honest review.

Master Race Mode has left the Chat And that orange peel…yikes! Did they paint it with gloss truck bed liner?

@nastystew6942

2 ай бұрын

They purposely paint it like that to protect the paint from rock chip@

@WhaddupImJohn

2 ай бұрын

They should paint it not like trash and then you just ppf it. It looks awful

@ThePilotGear

2 ай бұрын

@@nastystew6942 uhhh nope.

5:10 notice behind them the crooked gap in the convertible top.lol maybe a good old slap will fix it.

That master race bit had me on the floor 😂

I like the over the head angle, love to see whats going on out front.

Turtle Horse RULEZ

I just unlocked this car in FH5 last night.

Mercedes is having their malaise moment at exactly the wrong time. They’re torching a century’s brand equity in only a few years.

@veritas6466

2 ай бұрын

That period started in the early 2000's.

@callofdestiny5671

2 ай бұрын

@@veritas6466 eh not quite personally around 2010 and a bit after was also great. I own a e class from that generation that's treated me amazingly. I would say after that Iv noticed the biggest fall off

@veritas6466

2 ай бұрын

@@callofdestiny5671 The 2010 E350 had six recalls. The following laundry list comes straight from consumer reports: Owners report problems with: Steering And Suspension- Shocks or struts, ball joints, tie rods, wheel bearings, alignment, steering linkage (includes rack and pinion), power steering (pumps and hoses, leaks), wheel balance, springs or torsion bars, bushings, electronic or air suspension. Other steering/suspension problem- "Rear subframe rusted and broke. Replaced subframe with used subframe because new ones were not available from manufacturer. Manufacturer has not acknowledged problem, which appears to be general for E and C class vehicles from 2010 and the late teens." Climate System AC compressor, blower (fan) motor, condenser, evaporator, heater system, automatic climate system, electrical failure, refrigerant leakage. In-car Electronics Infotainment system (audio, GPS, phone), rear entertainment system, backup or other camera/sensors, head-up display. Hardware replacement "GPS navigation continuously misdirects. Installed updated discs but problem persisted. No longer use it because of unreliability."

@chesneP

2 ай бұрын

This has been the MB cycle for several decades now. 80s-90s some of the best quality $ could buy. 00-10ish complete garbage followed by 10-late teens uptick. Now we’re back to garbage again

@nbb6609

2 ай бұрын

Their “Premium Strategy” is not right

Straight Pipes said this handles better than a 992 Turbo Cab, which I knew had to be BS. Thank you for confirming 😅

Looking at these Guys vids at 2160p is crazy good

That mode is exclusive to German's: Master Race Mode. The TH guys are such a riot. No master race mode in that LC500...definitely off the list.

Good looking car But the v8 lexus lc500 ❤❤❤

I’ve been waiting for this car review

the build quality on modern mercedes is absolutely shocking. working at a mercedes dealership and getting to experience classic and modern models side by side really makes me question if these cars really still deserve the star

The depreciation curve on this car is going to look like a brick dropped from a 12 story building

That Orange peeling is unacceptable. But I have to say that when I saw the SL 63 AMG on the street for the first time (in matte brown) I stopped and looked for 2-3 minutes at the car. It’s one of the most beautiful new cars on the market and it looks really premium. I think it looks better in real life than in videos on KZread. Respect to the designers at Mercedes. 👍🏻

Well done! Very nice video!

Looks mad 😮😮

Haha master race mode, funniest thing all evening.

Shouldn't SL be "super leicht" as in super light? That monster weighs 2000kg. What the heck is happening

@2JZDestroyer

2 ай бұрын

they've been north of 1700kg for a looong time.

I have to say those camera angles look spicy.. well calculated angels... and most certainly amazing

These guys are the most entertaining car KZreadrs by far. 👍👍👍

Lc500 all day hands down

That's a nice looking Z4!

Masterpiece, the most beautiful car I have ever seen.

I have the LC and I really like the look of the new SL, especially in that light blue colour

AMG fell off

@bg_space953

2 ай бұрын

still not as bad as other amg's tho

@jonahlandrum9659

2 ай бұрын

Definitely did

@horchatakevin

2 ай бұрын

AMG was never good

@FenderUsa

2 ай бұрын

mercedes in general fell off, they're still good cars but overpriced compared to competition now. they used to be the best made cars in the world...not so much anymore

@joelplatt2651

2 ай бұрын

It’s like Toyota slapping TRD on every single thing and then having to replace it with GR because they watered it down too much

I own C 63 AMG V8 I love love love it!

Very nice. Thanks for the video. 💙✌️

I really like that new camera angle

It’s got Chince !!!! Best thing I’ve heard on KZread

Absolutely correct Thomas tjank you for pointing that out! Also while the burmester sound system is grate and there is actualy metal as speaker covers it is so sharp it could be used as cheese graters honestly try it 😂

It's funny that yall have done this review. I was literally planning to comment on your next video that you should do a new SL vs a old SL, like a 2013, comparison. Especially since you can get one of those for the low 30k range

@2JZDestroyer

2 ай бұрын

Nah they should do an R129 as that's the previous soft top. It would be a very eye-opening review though. A then vs now that would show how little our money is worth.

@stockseer

Ай бұрын

I have the 'old' SL R231 SL400, and most reliable car, and solid after all these years... longest I've owned a single car; terrified at the thought of trading it.

Awesome video

Been waiting on this one.

Hey, hold on the esp button on the left corner off the whell, and than you’ll be able to use the master mode of the traction, I’m a 2023 sl63 owner with cote d’azure blue and red interior, mode is very fun but not for everyone

Thank you, James! Was yelling "power to weight" at the screen.

"It's a bit of give and you're all take" lmao that's gold!

Good review. You guys are still funny.

Am always surprised when they say this company is letting us test the car and proceed to give harsh criticism about it. Love it. Truly real critics

That paint texture is for aerodynamics, just like a golf ball !

nobody outside of america would even imagine to hesitate between this and a lexus

Really good - good - bad or ugly you guys ALWAYS make it wonderfully entertaining, ,

Cool review, BTW What brand jacket is on James?

I love all the people judging this car meanwhile they’re driving corollas. Let’s be real, we all dream of owning something like this

I have the SL63 but the MY2022. Its crazy how many defects this car has despite having 2+ years of build time to iron out the issues. My SL is prestine, with none of the issues (I have matte paint and carbon fiber interior) but its insane to see this, the crooked interioe panels and more

The best line of the video was James’s “They learn that we are not German”

Hi! Thanks for this video and the A++ fun factor you guys bring to your shows. One question: Those downshift noises, "the clunk sound" it makes was driving me nuts. Did you put one one of your crew into "time-out" in the trunk and they're banging around in there hoping to get out? Say it is ***not*** Carson! :^)

4:45 I died 😑 Almost. From sheer laughter 🥲

Master Race Mode!! :)))))). Funny as hell!

Always entertaining. I’d have to go with the Lexus route. Thanks for the video.

So glad there is still amg cars with v8s

This is so true. I'm a dentist and I bought one lol! Lc 500 that is and they are built better than anything else.

“The laws through the government” was on point 😅

That Master Race bit had me actually gobschamacked . I refuse to believe that no one at AMG saw that little historical Freudian slip. 😂😂😂

I really appreciate you guys you are the best but i really feel that the SL deserves a proper review on a sunny day! I own this car and i tell you that you missed a lot! Also i think Keys gave you a really shitty probably a salvage or buy back loaner to test! My car doesnt have any misaligned parts or bending door panels! And you got the basic basic spec which doesnt do justice to the car at all! Mine is matte blue with beuge interior! I invite you to take mine next time you are here in LA! This car is briliant and i love it so much!

Are you driving the Angeles Crest Highway?? I LOVE driving that road with the top down and taking those corners. But I would still opt for the older SLS convertible.

THis camera angle is dope