2024 Elections | 'Ramaphosa's political image severely dented'| Mngomezulu
There have been winners and losers in this year's national and provincial elections.
With the ANC enduring an electoral decline from just over 57 percent in 2019 to this year current turnout of more than 40 percent.
Analysts have attributed many factors to the ruling party's decline, including the formation of the Umkhonto We Sizwe Party under the leadership of former President, Jacob Zuma and the increased number of new and small parties that have contested in this year's elections.
To give an analysis on this and other elections matters, we are joined virtually by Professor Bheki Mngomezulu, Director of Center for the Advancement of Non-Racialism and Democracy (CANRAD) at Nelson Mandela University.
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Malema losing support but still acts like he is in charge. Gravy train is running out of gravy. The problem for the ANC is that they will now be even more exposed of their corruption.
@american.imperialism
26 күн бұрын
Malema is still in charge.
@user-yi6md5fh5o
26 күн бұрын
The voters is in charge. If you don't believe me, look at the results. Democracy is alive and it does not like Malema.
ANC will never self.correct if it continues making tribalism excuses . This is time for honest reflection and self correct going forward
Thanks so much Baba Mngomezulu when you said tribalism is nonsense from Gwede Mantashe.
The fear of the past will keep Africa exactly there.
@stanleynkosikamthembu168
26 күн бұрын
"Africa" has nothing to with this. Don't Africanise everything happening i this country. The ANC had to deliver to our people, South Africans, over 30 years, it failed in the easiest of tasks and with significant majorities given in successive elections.
@american.imperialism
26 күн бұрын
Don't tell us that we're supposed to vote for white people. We know white people don't like us, they never will like us.
@lurisibiya3068
21 күн бұрын
The past is reality thanks to people like you 🤔who want to carry on without scars🤔 but with the past attitude 🤔🤔
@Hist247
20 күн бұрын
It is failure to remember the past that destroyed the ANC. Continue with that failure and it will become nothing.
@eldios831
20 күн бұрын
Those who talk about africa like you do....still don't move away from africa or stop talking about africa...why not move away and forget africa exist...that will be a big favour 😊
Dlakadla your are right it's very dangerous term for the country Dlakadla
Ramadollar's mission was only one to destroy the ANC.....and he completed the mission with flying colours!!!!
Ramaphosa knew from 2017 that pretending to be a Sheep or Vegetarian of sorts among wolves would eventually catch up with him. He knew all along upon being elected ANC President that he would be a "Shepherd" of Wolves until the time in which they would devour themselves and him. Well, the elections of 29 May 2024 was that time. His legacy has been tarnished too.
Mbalula is very quiet now where are you my brother kkkk
@Shathagan
27 күн бұрын
He was supposed to address the nation at 10.30. Typical ANC incompetence, always late
@user-bg3ng5td3u
27 күн бұрын
He is sick of dancing come duze
@biko8229
27 күн бұрын
😂😂🤣
@samkelisiwecarolmlambo8231
27 күн бұрын
😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
@ayandasigxashe7198
27 күн бұрын
He was addressing the press around 11am via EWN livestream! That man talk🙉
Corruption and crime, and service delivery led to this. People no longer have hope to ANC. If they only fix those things maybe next votes they will improve.
This is the first Anc President to experience such a great loss. Ramaphosa remained useless and ANC defended him
@jonathanvandenberg3571
26 күн бұрын
Zuma destroyed the foundations, he gave the house to Ramaphosa then it collapsed. No-one tries to really fix the issues, jobs, electricty, economy. They are only finding ways the excuse the situation, but not fix. Places 20 years with no water, schools etc, it won't change. still now after this election, it won't change. Who has the plan for those pain-points? i never heard one from any party.
@Point-taken
26 күн бұрын
That's a very stupid ignorant conclusion. What nonsense is "such a great loss", were the people rejecting Cyril or ANC? Learn to Read! When exactly did people lose trust in the ANC? Were you expecting Zuma and Zumantians to vote for Cyril?
@margaretlesoleso
26 күн бұрын
Anc is made of people, not only Ramaphosa. Stop fighting zuma battles
@margaretlesoleso
26 күн бұрын
@@Point-taken 🤸🤸♂️🤸♀️🤸🤸♂️🤸♀️,. Let fools remain fools, it's a pity that we have to engage with them, because their comments can be infuriating at times
@limpopoRiver
26 күн бұрын
@@Point-takenbathong numbers dont lie....this election are the WORST performance for the anc, all in the name of protecting crook and lehodu lela bareng ke ramadollar. The only loser on the election is ANC!!! You took the country for granted now look people like you are still defending rubbish doti!!!
No more dollars under the mattress.
@user-gu4df7mk6x
22 күн бұрын
Were stolen!
@user-lu2be9os9w
22 күн бұрын
Hiding on the cardboard
Ramaphosa should have stayed as a business man. He would have saved his name. This will go down in history.
@ntombiyomzulu7010
27 күн бұрын
abasho namanje,bamrata kawufela😂
@Llllltgyh
27 күн бұрын
@@ntombiyomzulu7010 it is so sad now. 100 years to come people will speak about 2024.
@Point-taken
26 күн бұрын
The ANC didn't win the majority, it has been on decline for some time.
@margaretlesoleso
26 күн бұрын
He never stole from government coffers 😎😎
@Llllltgyh
26 күн бұрын
@@margaretlesoleso not paying is stealing, imagine you don't pay tax on your one salary.
Where are the orange overalls?
@user-de4it3cb8k
20 күн бұрын
Also the white crooks who burn our flag and those so called markets who manipulated the rand
The new dawn never happened
@user-gu4df7mk6x
22 күн бұрын
Became ever very darkness!
Mngomezulu ❤the king, tell them,they are influencing violence.
Thanks professor Mngomezulu for the sport on analysis as always.We were fooled by this narrative of the new dawn,, Ramaphosa being part of the Zuma adminstration, the state capture commission didn't find any thing wrong in Ramaphosa, that alone speaks volumes, We now know how the white monopoly in this country operates, We also know that Chris Hani was not happy about what transpired in Codesa , Guess who was leading the negotiations? The answer is Mr New Dawn.Our beloved leberation movement is collapsing right in front of us because the structure of leadership iwas built on factionalism.
@Point-taken
26 күн бұрын
You are only repeating a lot of what you heard... Say something, so we can respond accordingly. What role exactly did white monopoly play here? Not heresy. FACTS!
Can we get rid of bheke Celle soon?
@GodcaresDube
26 күн бұрын
He must be the first to go that one with his nonsense 🎩
@user-ol6gh4rh5j
22 күн бұрын
Going going gone my fellow South African
He failed south Africans😢
Why can't we as human beings come together irrespective of colour creed religion We should be so blessed to be born as humans We need to take care of each other with love for each other Love and compassion is all that is needed to go forward
@harley1450ification
27 күн бұрын
We will evolve and get there. Too many cobwebs, 400 years worth, plus bad governance, corruption, gutter education etc etc.
@paulb3436
26 күн бұрын
Love and compassion won't stop the tide of corruption
@mambathokozani2902
26 күн бұрын
That's exactly what Zuma is hated for ,for trying to treat everyone equally and fair.The elite want everything for themselves and the rest of us to have nothing ,have ever heard of someone who stach dollars in mattresses and just get away with it???
@Betty-fe9ql
26 күн бұрын
Human beings cannot come together the way you thinking coz some human beings are so evil and they don't care about others they live by the saying it's a dog eat dog world
@american.imperialism
26 күн бұрын
White people have no respect for black people and Indians think they are our helpers. We can't come together, there's no country that exists with blacks and white equal. Whites will never accept that
I'm really not suprised by how Ramadollar has failed dismally in his presidency,the guy has never really been interested in being the president or leading the country,he said it himself he said presidency is his part time job.He actually describes himself a business man before and the presidency is part time job.Can you in your sober mind be comfortable and take that person seriously who is not seeing the importance and criticality of the sit he is sitting on?
I really don't understand how South African think or maybe they actually don't think at all, how can you continue voting for the government that says people from the age of 35 are old to be employed? Remaphosa is a disgrace. I'm sure wherever he is, he knows that fact and he must accept the fact that uyisahluleki...
Where is razzmatazz? That palooka needs to show his face.
Ramaphosa may not be a hero to ordinary SAns, but to those who sent him, he has done a great job in bringing the party to their coalition target! Zuma may not be Jesus but, there're commonalities, those who loves him are prepared to die for him, and those who hate him are prepared to kill him!
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
27 күн бұрын
Well said! I bet they didn't count on the unrest that prevented their attempt on President Zuma and the subsequent upset he has caused. rama was supposed to hand the ANC to the DA on a silver platter
@GodcaresDube
26 күн бұрын
Yah you are right
Ngiyithanda mayiza ned la😂😂😂😂😂
ANC members choose him to lead
The new dusk for the ANC.
Loadshedding tomorrow😂😂
SA is going rapidly back to the times Of the Flintstones, Stone Ages. Only Criminals are the top favorite candidates.
Since ramaphosa came... ANC has lost 22%..pooloka of note
I don't think Ramaphosa has taken politics as his career. The man is rich, he doesn't need politics for survival. So much can be said about others 🤸🤸♂️🤸♀️
@sbukeli
27 күн бұрын
He wasn't suppose to take it as a career in the first place. He was elected to lead this country. Same like he'd be elected to lead a company and he failed!
@margaretlesoleso
26 күн бұрын
@@sbukeli what fid you and I do toremedy that, nothing except to come to social media to vent our desperation and pointing fingers right left and center😭😭😭
Tsek cyril, tsek anc.
Noting what the Prof has said, still the challenges of the ANC started with CODESA, the opened borders, the HIV-AIDS mess, the Arms Deal, etc., CR17/22 would not have been able to put the genie back into the bottle after all these. Sadly, he could have handled COVID differently, load-shedding worsened. It does not start with CR17/22, it was simply a continuation of the failing trajectory.
He only has himself to blame for the decline of ANC supporters
@Point-taken
26 күн бұрын
That's very stupid to say, where have you been for the last 25 years? You don't know why people have been leaving the ANC?
@carolthomas405
26 күн бұрын
@Point-taken you have your opinion and I have mine
@samuelt.kisaame7787
24 күн бұрын
Too late for that.
@mosesmoeketsi3501
19 күн бұрын
ANC HAS BEEN ON THE DECLINE FOREVER, CHECK THE HISTORY AND WILL CONTINUE IF IT DOESN'T MOVE FROM THE PAST, DA IS LEARNING AND IS ALREADY APPEALING TO PEOPLE WHO WERE ANC VOTERS, BUT THE CORRUPT WTHIN ANC ARE HOLDING THE PARTY BACKWARDS,
Stop focussing on the past, using apartheid as an excuse. South Africans are too tired of this. Focus on the future, and you will get the support of 80% of the people. Viva SA and it's citizens.
Maybw they must first look at the history and previoys paintings before hiring someone to paunt such a personal painting
I hate tribalism and much as I hate xenophobia and racism.
Tribalism of gwede amasimba uyanya ugwede
ewe mhlalutyi factions ze ANC zizo ezibangele ukuzika kwayo
I ANC ihlangene no IEC iwantshontshe ngempela 🤞 amavoti e MK uyazi ayifuni kubalwe kabusha yini le eyisabayo uma imsulwa kade i ANC yawuqala lomkhuba ibivamile la e KZN ukuntshontsha amavoti e IFP ethi uma ekhala uMtwana wakwa Phindangene i IEC imchithe ihlangene ne ANC. Lokhu isikwenza kwi MK
Anc they still going to lose the Metropolitan because of they bad behavior viva Mkhonto Alluta Continua siyanqoba from Gauteng eKurhuleni Tembisa phambili Msholozi 💚💚💚💯
Damaphossa days are numbered and found wanting
The accusation of "tribalism" against President Zuma is not unlike the accusations of "tyranny" against Gaddafi, hopefully South Africans are well-read.
Liberation parties a Kuk at running countries!
Phambili ngoRamaphosa akayi ndawo viva ANC
@user-zd5ej9jy4u
26 күн бұрын
Wena safuna ramaphosa I don't think yr upstairs is ok unless you chowing tenders with them ramaphosa failed dismal in everything he must go anc NEC will chase him dlise khetho abantu abagcwali ngaye akahambe aye phala phala somlanda khona sizombopha wantshontsha imali eningi wafihla kusofa
He should resign.
@ntombiyomzulu7010
27 күн бұрын
true🤞
I love how these elections played out. Everyone will get a piece of the pie and the masses will be the winners. Land issue is very important, you cannot be South African and have no access to your land & Resources. This is a Continent problem and must be rectified but this should not be about demonising white people, there is enough for all colours. Immigration should positively impact the country Malema is onto something here because we need to interact and trade and exchange with other African countries and it should not be arduous task for someone to spend money in another country.
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
27 күн бұрын
Just by mentioning the word land without it being followed by "rover" you have successfully demonised them according to their logic.
@sijisiji8100
26 күн бұрын
How could you call indigenous people 'colours'?
It was determined by tribalism..yenzeka ngoku
@sbukeli
27 күн бұрын
People were no longer happy with the ANC. Are you saying they should've stayed and voted ANC like the EC keeps doing even though they remain poor? Western Cape used to belong to the ANC too!
@GodcaresDube
26 күн бұрын
If KZN by voting MK are called tribalist so as Limpopo, Ramaphosa’s province 73 % ANC so as Western Cape whites by voting DA so as the Boer by voting VV+
No what want went wrong is Ramaposa.simple.
Tribalism is not it
"Tribalism, kade, kade yaba nonsense bo!
Ramaphosa protected codesa more than Mandela
Quiet interesting to listen to some politicians who are masquerading as analysts. Give me this Mngomezulu, Seepe or Breakfast. Under no circumstances will they ever talk abt the unknown and uncharacteristic way of the Anc whereby its ex president would insult and disrespect its elected leadership like how zuma and his daughter used to call media briefings aided by ppl from opposition parties. Zuma contributed much in the anc losing support. Mpofu and Jimmy were enjoying the damage that was done to the anc because it was helpful to the growth of their parties. Today the very same Zuma is leading a faction from the anc, calling it 😊 MKP but still regards himself as an ANC member just to cause more divisions within the ANC. Today everyone talks about Phalaphala, the money that no one can claim is money from our coffers but potrays those that are fingered in stealing from the coffers of the state. Maybe its time we treat any form of corruption in the same way.
4:15 TELL US WHAT WAS ZUMA DOING DURING THAT TIME
😂😂😂
When will Zuma be arrested?
@multitechsolutions3168
27 күн бұрын
fool
@thembalethugigaba4329
27 күн бұрын
Arrested for what? Because Ramaphosa must arrested for Phala Phala saga
@scelomavuso5834
27 күн бұрын
Arrested unyoko
@jonathanvandenberg3571
27 күн бұрын
We don't usually arrest criminals
@thomasmoyo1198
27 күн бұрын
Arrest him for what
This analysis have not been telling the truth now you saying this guys please
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764
27 күн бұрын
Not this one, mngomezulu has never changed his thoughts on ANC.
How they got here 😂😂😂 30 years of incompetence and corruption. Just give Zuma his pardon and he’ll go back to the Guptas in Dubai.
😂
Tribalism is nonsense 😅
Mbalula also must go to jail for his holidays to Dubai who paid for it we want to da money that was under your wife account whre it was coming from it was for what
Iskhathi sakhe se duzane manje abasenayo I majority e Parliament manje bye bye Ramaphosa!!
This time Verwoed will be happy because Tribalism have raised its ugly head in KZN and other provinces where Zulu nationalism is being nurished.
@limpopoRiver
26 күн бұрын
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@seatieltsiane
24 күн бұрын
He must Also be happy with Orania
I still think jacob Zuma is very old and should of retired years ago 🎉🎉🎉
@limpopoRiver
26 күн бұрын
Thats your opinion
Ramaphosa lost to TRIBALIST
Zulu vote for ZULU CANDIDATE
Zulu votes for ZULU CANDIDATE
He will never resigned,just relax .6000000 voted for him to be president of the country
@SbusisoNgubane-xq7xx
26 күн бұрын
Those number will not help the organisation nor his reputation
This analyst is openly anti Ramaphosa and openly Pro-Zuma
@siyabongandumo8921
27 күн бұрын
By telling the truth?
@Llllltgyh
27 күн бұрын
There is no anti and pro here. He is speaking facts. Why people don't like facts.
@nhlanhlamanatha8799
26 күн бұрын
Hai Dlakadla u favour Zuma too much u doing tht nakuKhozi FM Ku breakfast show u tribalism too I thought educated people are neutral same as Nhlanhla Mtaka was Tribalism Al his time kuKhozi FM niyafana nonke ,thou I'm MKP but I like fairnes
@Point-taken
26 күн бұрын
@@LlllltgyhWhat facts really?
@Point-taken
26 күн бұрын
@@siyabongandumo8921What is truth? And what is the truth there? Oh pathetic Tribalist, willing to take that route?
Zange sibonento kuzuma sabona ukudliwa kwemali
@SbusisoNgubane-xq7xx
26 күн бұрын
And Ramadolar showed you flames
Cyril Ramapoes
Ramadollar is criminal conman 😂
This political analyst is bias.he didn't like Cyril since.i didn't hear him talking about Zuma corruption.every time he opens his mouth he criticizing Cyril from day one
@lindanilee7441
27 күн бұрын
I think you are 100% correct because the anc conference was bought it was not the will of the anc masses
@SbusisoNgubane-xq7xx
26 күн бұрын
The mainstream media houses are doing the same when it comes to Ramadolar,no President has ever been protected by media like Ramadolar.When last you heard the reporting on Phalaphala,I swear if it was Zuma the news would be flying in the sky
Phambili! SHAKA ZULU!!!!
@buzilemtetwa7488
27 күн бұрын
🎉, 😂you're the comedy break
Definite tribalism in KZN - MK only got significant numbers of votes where there are significant numbers of Zulus.. Original problems started by Zuma and continued by Cyril not sorting and rooting out corruption, both in the public and private sector.
@twentyfifty2050
22 күн бұрын
What about Mpumalanga where they got 17%?? Stop it with this stupid narrative and marginalizing our tribe!
WMC must accept that RamaSofa is a failed project but DA seem to want to impose him on us, LOL
@sizwemngoma6004
27 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
27 күн бұрын
He seemed to be working so well or did we fall for our own media propaganda?😂
@biko8229
27 күн бұрын
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 😂😂🤣I'm convinced you guys fell for the media propaganda. All of sudden those that claimed he had very high approval ratings are nowhere to be found. Some of us believe the ANC of RamaSofa lost by an even bigger margin than what IEC is showing us.
@Thokozani1787
27 күн бұрын
So far he's the only one who reached 5+million votes... those are voters who voted for him not WMC not DA.
@biko8229
27 күн бұрын
@@Thokozani1787 From close to 11 million votes 5 years ago to just over 6 million this year😂😂🤣It is very difficult to defend the man without sounding clueless about politics. The man and his policies of privatisation and austerity has been rejected by many people of SA. Let ANC continue with him and you'll see what the people will do to the ANC in 2026
Ramaposa has never been a president.he grew up seing Zuma in front of people and people cheering he envied and wished to be like him.but unfortunately its not in him natural
Ramaphosa should be ashamed of the under his rule whilst entertaining Gaza matters.
You are a researcher and professor by mistake. Don't you know what Zuma did to harm the ANC? Zuma did not resign even after he had lied about having a bond with Absa. You are grossly out of touch with reality. Zuma is also complaining about the fact that there was no growth when he was president.
@sonwabokoti2259
27 күн бұрын
And Zuma is going to take MK back to the ANC. Firstly he is going to try and remove his adversaries in the ANC using MK in negotiations. Then MK party is part of the ANC and its history and we are back in Zupta 2.0 . The MK part is saying they won't negotiate with the ANC of CR.
King zuma got his votes from his tribal subjects. They can deny all they like, but facts will remain. There are many reasons to punish the anc, but zuma is not and will not be a solution
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
27 күн бұрын
Unfortunately many people don't disagree.
@sbukeli
27 күн бұрын
Western Cape used to belong to the ANC too and they lost it to the DA. When people are no longer happy, they can choose to vote a different party. The EC keeps voting ANC but they are on the cutting edge every other week for poor service delivery. Maybe that's loyalty to uTata which could also be classified as Tribalism if we are using your nonsensical narrative but it's not serving them.
@SS-xt4kh
26 күн бұрын
@sbukeli Mandela did not form the ANC. He is one of its many leaders. If EC people were tribalist, they would have stopped voting for the ANC when zuma took over from Mbeki, but they did not. They seem to be voting ANC based on political ideology, not on it's capability to deliver services. Hence, they continue voting for it even when an ANC president is not isiXhosa speaking. ANC won 5 of the 9 provices with an outright majority and got the highest number of votes in 7 of the 9. That should tell you ANC is not an EC party. I don't know why you would single out EC people. Zuma got votes in areas where there is a significant representation of Zulu speaking people. Kzn,Gauteng, and Mpumalanga. Any sensible person can see that. People can vote any party they choose. Hopefully, not to allow themselves to be taken advantage of by a person who had more than 20 years in government and chose to prioritize himself and his friends.
@Point-taken
26 күн бұрын
@@SS-xt4khI couldn't have said it better!
@Point-taken
26 күн бұрын
@@sbukeliNonsensical Narrative, really? You just won't think or what? Cry if you want to
Ramaphosa did his utmost best to reconcile the obnoxious Zulu faction with the rest of the ANC! But Zulu tribalism was too strong! Zuma instigated the tribal conflict and destroyed the ANC ... not Ramaphosa!
😂