2024 Elections | Analysis on election results objections
The Independent Electoral Commission is expected to declare the final results of this year's national and provincial elections later today.
This as some of the political parties who contested have lodged their objections with the Commission on electoral matters.
The IEC says every results objection made by the political parties will be considered and dealt with, including a possible recount.
To talk more about what the post-elections future looks like for the various political parties, we are joined in the studio by the SABC Political editor, Mzwandile Mbeje and we are also joined virtually by Associate Professor Collette Schulz- Herzenberg from the Department of Political Science, Stellenbosch University.
For more news, visit sabcnews.com and #SABCNews on all Social Media platforms.
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The citizens should elect their president
@malcolmmarx5830
29 күн бұрын
Exactly , that's why we need to Vote for OHM for True Democracy to become a reality in South Africa..
@truth-Hurts375
29 күн бұрын
Vote for the OHM Domkoppe !!!!
@user-sb7ji6zl7p
29 күн бұрын
Like West Africa ,Mali ,Burkina Faso,Niger,Senegal, Captain Ibrahim Traore is our AU next President
@resphantom
29 күн бұрын
Well the idea is: the citisens votes for the parties based on each party's values and plans to improve the country. Through coalition the parties work together to come up with a consolidated plan. There will be compromises but each party must make sure that the end result is close to what the people have voted for. Of course as a party if more people voted for you, then you may have more sway in the planning process. This is where the idea of seats become very important. The coalition then chooses/votes for a neutral member to help them execute the consolidated plan. This would be the Prime minister/President This way we have 5 years of action to improve the country. No more stagnation and degredation. The people are in charge now.
@user-rx7ed9ml9x
29 күн бұрын
Can this western puppets allow IB to become AU chair ?@@user-sb7ji6zl7p
If the ANC forms a coalition with MK and EFF, it would be disastrous for the SA economy, as a loss of market/investment confidence would increase. Overseas companies would be reluctant to invest if SA becomes more and more politically unstable, pushing plans to seize land and accessing pension funds to use for its own purposes. African socialism/Marxism will lead to increased poverty and unemployment, resulting in greater social unrest and serious crime!
All we want is a government that can take care of the citizens and not take us back to apartheid in reverse or colonial ruling....
@rosemarymthembu4393
29 күн бұрын
Are scared of apartheid or you are shame of what you did to us
@allanhobbs3154
29 күн бұрын
@@rosemarymthembu4393 Apartheid started by the British and passed over when the Afrikaans took rule. Listen move on, that is in the past and will never happen again wake up. Time to build focus on that
@GodcaresDube
29 күн бұрын
@@allanhobbs3154 in the truth and reconciliation commission the apartheid government did not attend if fact it was the oppressed who had to confess and apologise again in the so called state capture commission it was Zuma who couldn’t refuse to attend yet Koos bekker refuse and nothing was done to him. Apartheid has never ended but it changed forms. If the DA which was apartheid is supporting apartheid Israel you know that the leopard can never change it’s spots
@carynbruyns5417
29 күн бұрын
Almost 90% of whites voted in the referendum to free Mandela and end apartheid- so it’s obvious that whites didn’t like or agree with apartheid either.
@allanhobbs3154
29 күн бұрын
@@GodcaresDube what dribble you talking about. There is no apartheid, get over it. Focus on the positives and build SA.
I just want to know who got the tender for the iPads that didn’t work.
@thomasmufanadzo3764
29 күн бұрын
All the way from Apple! USAID to thank for this. Leftover after Israel latest cargo. Now bring the African leaders corruption rhetoric...
@rsabardoelectrical
29 күн бұрын
BEEEEEEEEEE company
Recount or nothing.... Something is going on here !!!!
we are not controlled by fear... we want a recount.....
@biko8229
29 күн бұрын
Many people agree with you Sir. IEC thinks it can impose illegitimate leaders on the people of SA. IEC clearly does not understand the people of SA.
My respect for Msholozi, in the way he approached the votes issue and how he calmed the situation down amongst other parties. They are united, and speaking in one voice and I love it.
@ThokozaniMngomezulu
29 күн бұрын
Bhuti wam ngyabonga ukuth uyibona kahle lento .akukho nkinga lana .ikhalazo ezidluliswayo
@zuzemoyo7696
29 күн бұрын
Like him or loathe him. PRESIDENT ZUMA is the grown up in the South African political landscape in which the powerful do all they need to keep their Economic power. Viva President Zuma VIVA.
@JosephStroebel
29 күн бұрын
Me to
@JosephStroebel
29 күн бұрын
@@zuzemoyo7696 wize words
@ManteMumty
29 күн бұрын
When DA employers remind you they rule equally with ANC, treating you like black captownians and taxi drivers captownians, you will wake up from your sweet dreams 😂😂😂
Voters has spoken. Voters knew what they were doing. If the country become unstable, remember it represents the will of the people through their vote. Why are they calling maturity from politicians now ? They wanted the ANC out and lets leave with the consequences
IEC can't possibly resolve over 500 objectives in 24?
@bongumusamanqele154
29 күн бұрын
They are going to announce incorrect results
@siszama2294
29 күн бұрын
Why are they rushing.
I'm uncomfortable with the idea of stating that IEC will test whether the issues are material or not. If we believe that every vote counts, then we face a situation where a party A received 207 votes, but when the IEC was capturing on the system, it was changed to 2007 votes. If such an issue happened in the presence of auditors, the IEC should not be defensive rather should allow party agents to verify the data captured in all the capturing sites since party agents where not allowed during the capturing stages. ANC+MK+EFF =64.31% then analysts like this lady need not to tell us about the interests of the donors and markets BUT let the politicians prioritize the interest of the voters.
@zwelihleericshibase2611
28 күн бұрын
100% correct our lives cannot be decided by party donors and foreign agencies disguised as market I'm sorry that voesek
@NelsonGym
28 күн бұрын
They don't care about the interest of the vorers
"anything is possible in south africa"😭
Recount will be required to say IEC was free and fair
ANC tried to silence ZUMA using ZONDO and CONCOURT, but PEOPLE have spoken through their votes
@mightykeagile4361
29 күн бұрын
Don't say people say Zulus not us chief
@golfypeo1546
29 күн бұрын
am a Tswana but I salute the Zulu people for protecting Thier king
@jonassavimbiunitaparty6876
29 күн бұрын
Is not ANC is Ramabillion and whites Supremacy/Whites monopoly capital of South African media
@OTline
29 күн бұрын
Absolutely
@biko8229
29 күн бұрын
100%, now lets see if WMC is dumb enough to impose what will be seen as an illegitimate government on the people of SA
Lets go and vote again.
@cathypotgieter6345
29 күн бұрын
Another holiday for the many registered voters who didn't bother to exercise their civic right,/duty!!Where will the money come from to pay for this??REALLY!!!!
@mimien9919
29 күн бұрын
Exactly! It’s unrealistic!
@janedoe5510
29 күн бұрын
They always find money for everything. This might be an opportunity for those who didn't to think again because they see how things have changed in this election.
@LindiweLebogang
29 күн бұрын
If we vote again anc will get 30% lol not 40%😂
The idea that one vote should be ignored because it has little impact on the results is the very reason why the ANC downplays the law and commit small acts of corruption that end up becoming big and detrimental to this nation
@janvusi1407
29 күн бұрын
There is no where the said ANC
@Technology24
29 күн бұрын
@@janvusi1407 I said it here .I said ANC here
@zwelihleericshibase2611
28 күн бұрын
Exactly that is rubbish narrative and it's unconstitutional
I don't know why everybody is surprised by the MK results Zuma was the president of South Africa I understood that he had about 9 Million supporters that is not surprising the Zulu are the dominant race in KZN. But we must be careful when it comes to ethnic politics
“Damned if you do, damned if you don’t” 😅 A new dawn
Recount should be done otherwise our votes does not matter. Votes should go where they are supposed to go.
@zwelihleericshibase2611
28 күн бұрын
Exactly In true democracy each vote count under their constitution. This narrative that some vote don't make a difference is totally wrong even if I was only 1 vote for my choice it's mine I need it reflected correctly that true democracy
This interview needed a legal analyst but both Mzwakhe & Prof tried to answer general
One accurate finding is that MK has been properly briefed by their leader what exactly is happening with votes and this is the only truth that everyone should be worried about
IEC must be represented by all party members not ANC alone that will be fair game .
The ANC must never underestimate an ideology of Pan Africanism.
None of the speakers even mentioned EFF as if it's an abomination
@shay5839
28 күн бұрын
It IS an abomination.
What about BRICS . The DA might not want to be a part of this group. Also, the issue of Israel and Palestine.
Can anyone explain to me the need and relevance of 'Regional Ballot Paper'? Results reflect National and Provincial only!!!
I'm forever grateful to pres Zuma ,it's him who rid the country of ANC
@nomxhosapekani7966
29 күн бұрын
Don't celebrate so soon, Zuma is ANC and the man who said ANC will rule till Jesus comes back😅😅
@yusuf_837
29 күн бұрын
Are you saying that Zuma ran the country well during his run at Anc?
@ursulaoelofse4731
29 күн бұрын
Bulls**t! All Zuma ever did was loot and plunder and steal.
@siyabongadlamini7852
29 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 this comment made my day ,i like sucursm
@ahmedmansoor9702
29 күн бұрын
@@yusuf_837😢
"They said they were not material to the outcome of the result," I wonder...🤔
Mzwandile really want to be governed by the DA
Ha ha. Lets get something straight. MK didn't unseat the ANC. The ANC fractured again (last time it was the EFF). MK is the left wing branch of the ANC. The ANC assured their own destruction. Most of the MK voters are within or are ex ANC voters :-)
DA and ANC just worry about SA. Leave Palestine and Israel we have our own battles
@golfypeo1546
29 күн бұрын
DA is a probl to black economic freedom,,they are monopolised
@thomasmufanadzo3764
29 күн бұрын
...the storm over there is not foreign to SA, and it's people. Unless, similar experience by Palestinians is of no relevance to your own history
@jonassavimbiunitaparty6876
29 күн бұрын
Hey you schoeman the issues of Palestinian is the same that's our Great grand parent's experienced during Apartheid regime era.
@lunelleoliver2437
29 күн бұрын
The fact that the DA is condoning the genocide ,means that they fundamentally allow this to happen to brown or black people... But if you're a foreigner to my country , I understand your comment.
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
29 күн бұрын
@@thomasmufanadzo3764the implication is that it is not. They will never understand until it is done to them.
ANC forget his people, and focused on so called Hamas terrorists. hiding behind Palestinians, but in Africa Sudan 🇸🇩 still have problems. Where are you ANC? No longer ANC of Mandela anymore 😢😢
Recount, if they still are not satisfied let them go to court and spend money. We need to see the proofs they have.
ANC put us in this situation as a country wy remove ramaposa its simple
Recount!!!!!
Look at the litter in that room of politicians. A direct reflection on the respect the people of this country have for their own homesoil.
Recount won't change the results, they are just disappointed with their numbers 😂
Voting is a joke in South Africa. Delegates of all parties have one and only one interest and that is to keep their jobs. Citizens of South Africa pay rates and taxes to keep party delegates in power. Thank you, Alderman Felicity Purchase of the DA for teaching me this lesson.
You’re absolutely abscess with EFF Mr. Andile
The ANC has long been working with DA. They've long captured and compromised
As a 71 year old "white" South African born ,4th generation would like to say the following. The DA must unite with MK, INKATA and many minor parties. We have had enough of EFF/ ANC ineptitude. We are a very diverse cultural, ethnick society. We deserve better. ❤❤😅
@welcomedicken
29 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@sifundomqwala9595
29 күн бұрын
It won't work honestly
@divhanimunyai5158
29 күн бұрын
Seems like you aged but didn't really grow. And you are also very bad at basic arithmetics. The MK and the DA have some serious ideological differences as well as policy.
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
29 күн бұрын
MK and EFF have the same policies, have you gotten to the MK somehow?
@Xipalaje
29 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
There are only 3 out of 10 problem cases that need to be managed. 1. Gauteng.ANC will lead & DA will need to follow following a framework that moves services forward. 2. Nationally, ANC will lead & DA or others will vote to have a majority vote based on reasonable consensus... Not a narrow majority unless on minor issues. 3. KZN..? Can IFP lead with support from ANC + DA + others rather than MK + EFF? Consensus will be hard to manage! Its likely to get stuck in extra parliamentary struggle chaos! Others should be fairly capable to govern well
2024 ziyakhipha viva Mk
@JosephStroebel
29 күн бұрын
Amen
@ladygrace6208
29 күн бұрын
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It’s all sounding very Zimbabweish
If your prediction Sontshikazi (ANC+DA) comes true, the ANC is dead.
@alettaphalatsi477
29 күн бұрын
ANC is on life support already, dying slowly, coming elections it will be worse, so it might as well marry the stronger wife to boost itself
@ManteMumty
29 күн бұрын
ANC will be saved by effective government, that can only be obtained by colliation with DA, people need services not party politics
@alettaphalatsi477
29 күн бұрын
@@ManteMumty i have been saying this and no one seems to understand, if you are on life support you need strong medication to wake up, you don't need noice
@skhumbuzompungose9255
29 күн бұрын
@@alettaphalatsi477what do you mean 🤷🏿♂️🙇🏾♂️
@alettaphalatsi477
29 күн бұрын
@@skhumbuzompungose9255 ANC needs DA to recover because they will work hard
Professor from the University of "Stellenbosch", what else will you expect! Those who know, knows!
“ANC and DA have great ideological differences”…Are the ideological differences in the room with us now?
In as much as there is no arrogance anywhere, there is similarly no tribalist in KZN!
I just wonder who is going to pay for a revoting
@JackMaboko
29 күн бұрын
Zuma must pay for it
@mihlalimakwedini46
29 күн бұрын
Why are you jumping the gun? The aim is to recount votes not to have a re-election. Besides in the rare instance of a re-election that has already been provided for in this years budget.
@mimien9919
29 күн бұрын
🤣
All thanks to Zuma who divided the majority of ANC to push it in colliation with the enemy, ANC warned all of us about this and we ignored them. Now let's man-up and eat our humble cold pie When DA employers remind you they rule equally with ANC, treating you like black captownians and taxi drivers captownians, you will wake up from your sweet dreams 😂😂😂
viva Mk
Elections were free and fair.then give all pp duty how we should vote and count .people have spoken.kanti where are.the so called observers.
prof is advocating for ANC-DA partnership
@Demo_542
29 күн бұрын
That was just out there, I was expecting a neutral opinion
So now the election is invalid because Zuma isn't happy? Are we going to have recounts until they get 50% or what? Riots and looting again?
@diatilenthoba8262
29 күн бұрын
IEC is scared of Zuma n Amazulu,if they listened to Khumalo the founder of the party... we could have not been in this mess🤞🤞🤞
@Qotha
29 күн бұрын
Yes recount until we are all satisfied
@shikatembe
29 күн бұрын
So I guess you are choosing to ignore that it is also 25 other political parties. A recount until we ascertain that the results reflect what took place in the various voting stations.
@yusuf_837
29 күн бұрын
Eish let's hope for the best
@lufunonemakonde3993
29 күн бұрын
@@shikatembe So did all those 25 parties reach 50%....NO.... People have spoken nothing will change that can help 2/3 majority gang 😂😂😂
Yes, its a great suggestion that the President be elected as a show of the strength of our people to be Unified as a Nation, supporting the Statesmanship we need to Rise above Political Divisiveness... Like Mandela was able to do at one point or the United Accountable Voices of our Women in Rise Mzansi!!
Let's stop the delay rather start talking about coalition now and move forward
If ANC has to form a coalition with MK, they must recall Ramadola. I just suspect they coalesce with DA. The did it to remove Mkwebane and Hlophe. ANC of Ramaphosa are not principled
This politics must consider the interest of people
Soon sizophinda sivote I don't see ezipart zethu zisebennzisana xa zizonke maybe after a year or very soon coalitions won nt last 😢
Recount vote or kqalwe phansi kuvotwe bangaki abambelwa amathun kulo 5 year's ozayo if anc still doing it like dis come guy
Army and police ready this time?
@mhlayzaentertainment3272
29 күн бұрын
To kill people?
@godfreybuthelezi2479
29 күн бұрын
Police yes but the army there is no command in chief SA has no president as yet the so army no go
@user-zn7gz7jl7h
29 күн бұрын
For what??
I think ANC can be brave enough to call EFF and MK and start working on Land issue as first Policy so that the state can have all resources and minerals ect we will they get money if we dont own the Land pls,start now not later One Azania
@jeffreywailer7610
29 күн бұрын
It's about South Africa and it's people, the ANC DA bring difference into the pot, perhaps the difference between could actually bring South Africa together
@TruthSeeker1511
29 күн бұрын
Do you trust government that much?
@lindilelubabalozulu8476
29 күн бұрын
@@jeffreywailer7610 utter nonsense, ANC and DA have been leading together forever and they did nothing because ANC are apologists of the Racist white supremacists. We need EFF period and MK if they work together to deliver what our people needs, it's their time now.
@lindilelubabalozulu8476
29 күн бұрын
@@jeffreywailer7610 That's utter nonsense, ANC and DA have been there for a very long time and nothing changed because these ANC fools are active participants in an oppressive system that favours settlers and veered off from representing the dejected masses of our People. The are cut from the same cloth with that racist barbaric DA.
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
29 күн бұрын
@@jeffreywailer7610no thank you. Your party wants me in poverty, We would rather keep you on the sidelines until you realise less than basic food basket wages is slavery.
I told you so anc is dying a slow death you see don't take voters for granted pasop
There have been already recounting in three provinces. Why these processes took effect? We're there irregularities obs 8:31 erved
Since 2009 kudlalwa ngabantu. ✊️🇿🇦🤣 Why do people love Zuma so much? He told us that we love him. 🤔
@MmaleratoMogotsi-mi4nm
29 күн бұрын
So true
@JackMaboko
29 күн бұрын
Me hate that bloody thief and crook
@Isaiah09405
29 күн бұрын
Mr Jacob Zuma is a star you guys don't get it.
A government of national unity.ANC,DA and EFF.
If Zuma was home enjoying his pension, ANC would've been a goner
@truth-Hurts375
29 күн бұрын
And how did your Domkop figured this one out ????
@ELLIOT8209
29 күн бұрын
I agree.
@ZamaLindaSosibo
29 күн бұрын
You can chill
@protasmemela6718
29 күн бұрын
If cyril didn't purge Zuma and NEC didn't allow that ANC would be party even on all 8 provinces except wc.nationally easy 62%majority they fail to manage Zuma retirement as gorvening party
@zwelihleericshibase2611
28 күн бұрын
They couldn't allow him to enjoy his retirement
Iec must approach President kuvotwe again le siyibonayo ayizolunga tu recount its not a solution
Mina ngiyacela siwamukele njengoba enjalo lamavoti siqhubeke nempilo
@user-lf5ze5fj6k
29 күн бұрын
Uyahlanya, that's why whites walk on us, because of reasoning Like yours
@siyadedj340
29 күн бұрын
It get's hard to accept especially since the parties have proof of what they had counted. If there was no proof then by all means that should have been done.
@michaelsoto5159
29 күн бұрын
This country is not a church where you don't question things
@Mr19901993
29 күн бұрын
❤@@michaelsoto5159
@AkkyBlu
29 күн бұрын
@@siyadedj340 this might be stupid question... how are they counting? at voting station i was not asked to see party i voted for to count my vote together with IEC
If ANC goes ahead with DA kuphelile ngo Khongolose, this’ll be pay back for National Party in 1994 if you know you know
The best interest of the country lies in ANC going in coalition with DA no two ways about.
@jonassavimbiunitaparty6876
29 күн бұрын
DA is Israel Zionist racist regime,western imperialist and NATO colonialist political gangsters puppets.
Let the sunday morning quarter backing begin
ANC,DA,PA,EFF coalition if they can put their differences aside
We want to revote
Lol l remember Mzwandile said on 16 December wen Zuma announce l will vote for Mkhonto, the same Mzwandile saying l see the old crying for help in ANC, look now the ANC is crying for help not Zuma
The ANC of Ramaphosa is funded by WMC, but the membership is closer to centre left. ANC is not close to DA. EFF makes more sense
6 more months then. ANC rules in the meantime.
We need to reset South Africa, the governance shouldn't be determined by the market or big business, governance should be governed to meet the need and wants their citizens not the interest of big business.
If Mk is having coalition with ANC Zuma will want to lead and become the President of this country by force, so that he will pay lobola for another wife
@Channyy956
29 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@Isaiah09405
29 күн бұрын
Atleast he is just gonna take another wife. The DA will want to implement apartheid so we don't want that.
@user-lu2xt8cn2f
29 күн бұрын
Apartheid will much better rather than this so called freedom where ppl are robbed and raped and killed in their own houses. You cant even walk at a taxinrank without being worried that someone will rob you. It was much better during apartheid bcz you had to go to town at a certain time and come back home. As soon as it start to get dark you become scared these days bcz you will never know when and whr the thieves will pop into your door. And you are ognorant when you think apartheid will come back. Zuma failed to lead the country for 9 years . WHAt is he going to do at the age of 82
Zuma just play with south African, he want power in all cost, they where suppose to leave him in jail, look now what he do.
@andilenkabinde1191
29 күн бұрын
You're a slow learner
@thalentekhuluse2829
29 күн бұрын
Another Brainwashed Zuma hater
@MmaleratoMogotsi-mi4nm
29 күн бұрын
I agree, Our President made the biggest mistake by giving him a second chance.... Its heartbreaking.
@thecryptoguy8381
29 күн бұрын
Jail for what
@JackMaboko
29 күн бұрын
He thinks south Africa is a monarch state as he wants to rule forever with his big family
Stop thinking about your self and do your work that. You are suppose to do that the voters vote u to do
Zuma was doing that when he was president. He instructed IEC to cheat EFF in Gauteng 2014
@user-wx6kj9yq5f
29 күн бұрын
At least he realized, and he is rectifying the wrongs done previously.
@zuzemoyo7696
29 күн бұрын
Do you have the evidence to support your big assertion?????
Anc won't work with DA
Madness, party funding benefited who? Oh, markets prefer DA for coalition? Thats crazy
Afcorse they will quit rather than to get locked up 🤔
🗣️🎙️ANC/ DA coalition is a queen bed on fire🔥🔥🔥the end😆😆😆.
Why say ANC and DA coalition, put the cat among the pigeons and have a DA and MK coalition? Now that would be a game changer!
@Prodidawana
29 күн бұрын
DA x MK x EFF x PA. What a combo. 😂😂
@janedoe5510
29 күн бұрын
This would require maturity and selflessness unfortunately these people don't have
@thembelandesi4741
29 күн бұрын
A mess. It would be like DA and EFF in 2016.
@AkkyBlu
29 күн бұрын
i wonder national how this is going to work, in my municipality we already had 3 mayors.... so are they gonna keep on reshuffling presidents 😶🌫
😂😂😂😂😂 South Africa is going to be clean from now on ❤
Tradition? They should take into account what the law allows, surely? Is this a political analyst?
Why Da and Mk I don't believe b Eff is second big opposition IEC hi don't doing very wrong
Simple governing operation ANC for national, DA for provincial, MK for regional and EFF for local municipaity
DA and ANC would be a great force. South Africa would thrive.
@Channyy956
29 күн бұрын
No anc should go away altogether for sa to thrive
We want a recount now, not just a possible recount. Viva MK, Viva all political parties that objected to the rigging of election results... Zuma for President
It's your turn now. You was beaten Zimbabweans there. We want to see if the game go well.
The professor doing PR
The Israel 🇮🇱 & Palestine issue is not our Country Issue look at what is a South African issue
@shay5839
28 күн бұрын
I feel the same way in America. With Russia and Ukraine too.
We, ANC members, don't want DA coalition.
Do what you want but ngeke nilibuse singajabule eKZN,izinyembezi zabantu abaningi ziyisiqalekiso
@JackMaboko
29 күн бұрын
So u Zulus want to cause violence and chaos you're very selfish
VIVA MK recount
Announcement will be made today and no one will stop IEC not even Zuma
Rerun simple