2024-06-12 Carlos and Michael: What is real? What is unreal? How to unrealise the unreal?

In a Zoom meeting on 12th June 2024, Michael answers Carlos' question: What is real? What is unreal? How to unrealise the unreal?
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  • @SriRamanaTeachings
    @SriRamanaTeachingsАй бұрын

    A clearer audio copy of this video can be listened to on Sri Ramana Teachings podcast (ramanahou.podbean.com) or downloaded from ramanahou.podbean.com/e/what-is-real-what-is-unreal-how-to-unrealise-the-unreal and a more compressed audio copy in Opus format (which can be listened on the VLC media player and some other apps) can be downloaded from mediafire.com/file/9cb0kg1ypyue8eu

  • @visweshwaranr
    @visweshwaranr22 күн бұрын

    The very fact that we are able to listen to your wonderful satsang is due to HIS Grace. Feeling very blessed

  • @SriRamanaTeachings
    @SriRamanaTeachingsАй бұрын

    Short Q&A videos from this channel can be watched on youtube.com/@sriramanateachingsqa

  • @SriRamanaTeachings
    @SriRamanaTeachingsАй бұрын

    Sri Arunachala Aksharamanamalai sung by Sri Sadhu Om, with English translation by Michael James, can be watched here: vimeo.com/ramanahou/am000 . For advertisement-free videos on teachings and songs related to Bhagavan Ramana, please visit vimeo.com/ramanahou and click 'showcases' on the bottom left. Each original work of Bhagavan Ramana has its own showcase with explanations of Michael James.

  • @christianandersson2217
    @christianandersson221719 күн бұрын

    Thank You! 🙏

  • @rviswanathan
    @rviswanathanАй бұрын

    🙏

  • @user-xk7mz9ds7e
    @user-xk7mz9ds7eАй бұрын

    This is an excellent explanation of what is real and unreal by Bhahavan and Micheal.thank you.Here are some of the difficulties that I and others may have in recognizing our real nature. 1 we start during waking state( can't do any other state)as ego ,asking questions and and Michel answers ,both questions and answers arise as thoughts(by mind). Thought or the ego will never able to know or recognizance our real nature! so where do we go from here ? 2 As I understand self inquiry is not a thinking about truth or our real nature by our mind,so is there any way to bypass the mind? 3 Paradoxically Am I right saying that our real nature is unchanging ,the arising of ego and appearance of the world never actually happen although it appears to happen? Could Micheal or anyone help me with this paradoxes.Thank you.

  • @SriRamanaTeachings

    @SriRamanaTeachings

    Ай бұрын

    Namaskaram. Bhagavan’s real teachings are silence, namely the silence of pure being, but because our outward-going minds are not sufficiently attuned to that silence, he also gave us teachings in words. Since we receive and process those words as thoughts, they cannot by themselves enable us to know our own reality, but they do point us in the right direction. Therefore if we follow the direction in which they point us, namely back within, towards ourself alone, we will thereby know ourself as we actually are. As Bhagavan pointed out, awareness is one and indivisible, so the same awareness that is called ego or mind when facing outwards, shines as pure awareness when facing inwards, knowing nothing other than ourself. Therefore the way to bypass the mind is to turn it back within to face ourself alone. As he made clear, the nature of ourself as ego is to rise, stand and flourish by attending to things other than ourself, but to subside and dissolve back into ourself by attending to ourself alone. Therefore when we turn to turn back within to face ourself alone, we as ego subside and cease to exist, and thereby we remain as we actually are, namely pure being-awareness (sat-cit). In this way, by knowing and being what we always actually are, we will see that we are ever unchanging, so we have never actually risen as ego, and hence no such thing as ego, body or world has ever existed or even seemed to exist, as you say. Therefore, what may seem on superficial observation to be paradoxes in Bhagavan’s teachings are not actually paradoxes at all, because if we understand his teachings clearly and comprehensively, we will see that they explain everything that needs to be explained in a perfectly logical, consistent and coherent manner. Namo Ramanaya 🙏🙏🙏

  • @user-xk7mz9ds7e

    @user-xk7mz9ds7e

    Ай бұрын

    @@SriRamanaTeachings Thank you very much for for the detail response to my questions.yes I agree about the silence,Bhahavan;s famous quote ,the only language that can speak about the truth is Silence.that is absolutely true.the problems arise when we use the words to explain that has no quality or dimension. other observation is when we try to understand "Advaita"paradox is inevitable depending on how we stand as ,As you mentioned in your response ,that awareness and the mind(ego) are made of same substance if we investigate(self inquiry)every moment.if we don't paradox is inevitable.therefore I agree there is no contradiction in Bhahavan;s teaching. I hope my understanding is right my another query is ,as you say to bypass the mind ,we have to turn inwards,does this mean we need cooperation of the mind ,which lead to its own death?or by self inquiry to understand there is no mind or ego ,only existence is sat-cit again thank for you effortless teaching and complete understanding of Bhahavan;s words although its in Tamil!

  • @SriRamanaTeachings

    @SriRamanaTeachings

    Ай бұрын

    @@user-xk7mz9ds7e Namaskaram. What is the ‘I’ that needs to investigate itself? The pure ‘I’, which is sat-cit, obviously does not need to investigate itself, because it is always aware of itself as it actually is and is therefore never aware of anything else. Therefore, what needs to investigate itself is only the impure ‘I’ (the ‘I’ that is conflated with adjuncts as ‘I am this body’), which is what is called ego or mind. When you ask ‘does this mean we need cooperation of the mind ...?’, you seem to imply that the mind is something other than the ‘we’ who need to investigate ourself, but how can this ‘we’ be anything other than the mind or ego? We need to investigate ourself only because we now seem to be ego or mind, so self-investigation (ātma-vicāra) is just we as ego or mind turning back within to see ourself as we actually are, namely pure being-awareness (sat-cit). What Bhagavan has taught us is so simple and clear, but by allowing ourself to rise and rush outwards as ego or mind, we confuse ourself with a multitude of ideas and therefore fail to see the simplicity and clarity of his teachings. Instead of seeing simplicity and clarity, we imagine paradoxes and thereby confuse ourself unnecessarily. If we want to follow this path of self-investigation, therefore, we first need to set aside of our confused ideas and thereby allow ourself to see clearly what he has actually taught us, because this path is the path of clarity, so following it entails seeing clearly and thereby cutting through all confusion. Namo Ramanaya 🙏🙏🙏

  • @michaeldillon3113

    @michaeldillon3113

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@SriRamanaTeachings🙏🕉️

  • @user-xk7mz9ds7e

    @user-xk7mz9ds7e

    Ай бұрын

    @@SriRamanaTeachings Thank you again for clear response as Bhahavan's teaching.yes I agree paradoxes only in the mind,mind as such it loves get teeth into unnecessary details instead of seeing its own truth.as in ullathu natpathu verse 3. thank you

  • @doughijones3781
    @doughijones3781Ай бұрын

    ❤❤❤

  • @caphcassiopeia7924
    @caphcassiopeia792422 күн бұрын

    🕉💓🌞

  • @rblais
    @rblaisАй бұрын

    Namo Ramanaya 🙏🙏🙏

  • @michaeldillon3113
    @michaeldillon3113Ай бұрын

    🙏🕉️

  • @OrthoNepali
    @OrthoNepali29 күн бұрын

    Hey Michael, I came to say sorry. I went neurotic a year or more ago and did many things. I also became anti semetic but now I feel better and I wanted to say sorry. I am sorry.

  • @mohitdhiman79
    @mohitdhiman7923 күн бұрын

    If consciousness is fundamental, where does it go under the influence of anaesthetic.

  • @nikibotev5478

    @nikibotev5478

    20 күн бұрын

    that consequences is awareness of things and it just stops as a dream. the other part - fundamental awareness of itself remains, but is not aware of anything under anesthesia so it seems blank. actually we cannot experience this now it may take many lifetimes

  • @markocvrljak3681
    @markocvrljak3681Ай бұрын

    If Body is insentient, there for not existent, and not aware, howcome prarabda is aloted to it?

  • @SriRamanaTeachings

    @SriRamanaTeachings

    Ай бұрын

    Namaskaram, Prārabdha is not allotted for the body but for ego, the ‘I’ that is aware of itself as ‘I am this body’. Namo Ramanaya 🙏🙏🙏

  • @markocvrljak3681

    @markocvrljak3681

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@SriRamanaTeachings I misunderstand it probably because of the jiva mukta concept, and how sri Bhagavan had all kinds of body problems, because of his misusing it in his youth. But now I understand that the Ego is that which(who) suffers and not the body as it is insentient.

  • @shilpamurdeshwar5788

    @shilpamurdeshwar5788

    Ай бұрын

    We have separated ourselves from God n so we r born again n again as we have forgotten ourselves.We have all the vishayavasanas which do not let us progress,these vasanas shd be given up,kama,khrod,Lobha,moha,mada,matsarya,with all this jiva does karma n he fails miserably as he doesnot know the law of karma cz of which the jiva with ahankara is born n thus has to thus go thru prarabdha.Prarabhdha is for spiritual progress only if jiva makes an effort to know God.

  • @gireeshneroth7127

    @gireeshneroth7127

    Ай бұрын

    But ego an illusion itself? How come an illusion takes the burden?

  • @SriRamanaTeachings

    @SriRamanaTeachings

    Ай бұрын

    @@gireeshneroth7127 Namaskaram. Yes, ego is an illusion, but it is an illusion unlike any other illusion, because all illusions appear only in the view of ego, so ego is the only illusion that seems to exist only in its own view. That is, ego is the root of all illusions, because it is the only illusion that is endowed with awareness, so it is the only illusion that is aware of itself and of all other illusions. Without ego, therefore, no other illusion could appear. Ego is a conflation of awareness (cit) with a set of adjuncts, namely a body consisting of five sheaths, which is non-aware (jaḍa), so it is called cit-jaḍa-granthi (the awareness-nonawareness-knot), and hence it is a mixture of what is real (namely sat-cit, ‘I am’) and what is unreal (namely the body). Therefore it is neither entirely unreal (like all phenomena, which are jaḍa) nor entirely real (like sat-cit): as ego it is unreal, and as sat-cit it is real. Since all burdens, including prārabdha, are illusions, which are jaḍa, they exist only in the view of ego, so it is only by rising as ego that we take all burdens upon ourself. Namo Ramanaya 🙏🙏🙏

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