I’m very happy to see Suzuki making a truly ALL NEW motorcycle not just a totally new model but also a new Engine with new Electronics suspension frame etc.. I hope they continue to make more strides like this again because Suzuki is a great company that has a lot to contribute and this hiatus they’ve been on has been frustrating to say the least!

@VinCode17

5 ай бұрын

👍

I rode the 8S and Hornet back to back yesterday, with an open mind. It was a revelation - the 8S was, in my opinion, by far the better bike. Smoother, more mid range, more room, more comfortable. I preferred the TFT on the 8S - less crowded and clearer than the Hornet's screen. The quickshifter worked better on downshifts. Three things I didn't like - the lack of LED indicators (why put yesterday's technology on tomorrow's bike?), the odd position of the tail/stop light (surely it would have been neater on the rear of the seat unit?) and the fact that a USB socket was an optional extra, at a staggering £46 - I just hate being fleeced. That aside, is it worth £1000 more than the Honda? For me, the answer is yes. It's good that a quickshifter is included as standard, but it's annoying to be asked to pay extra for a USB socket and LED flashers.....irritating potential customers isn't a great way to start, Suzuki!

@Daniel-dj7fh

Жыл бұрын

Did you change around the dash on the Hornet? I think Honda also specifically engineered the Hornet to be a more top end focused revving bike, which would explain the lackier midrange.

@nun_nuno

7 ай бұрын

"more mid range," Maybe because on paper the GSX achive the peak torque earlier then the Hornet.

The Japanese are masters. ❤️

I could definitely see myself on this bike, perfect for my needs.

@VinCode17

5 ай бұрын

💪

I think the aftermarket parts will make this bike look fantastic, tail tidy, mirrors, exhaust, blinkers👌

@VinCode17

5 ай бұрын

💯

These series of events in spain &france including Dan, Andy, Chopsy and others has been super entertaining 🤟🏼😂 Feels like a an adventure for us. Oh and I swear, Dan is a natural with these (non) intended puns. I bet he does it all the time even when nit riding 😋

Great to see you and Chops getting these exclusive ride events on the regular now.

The most attractive bike in its class. I like the idea of low-down shove as opposed to top-end power. It's what you use most often. Nice TFT. I like to see a bike ridden normally. Most people ride like this. It gives you a real idea of what the bike is like. A 1050cc version of this would be something. I did this road on my old R1100GS years ago. They certainly are sheer drops.

@DasChristoff

Жыл бұрын

The gsx s1000 is the 1L version of this. And in my opinion the better option. Way more hp and torque at your fingertips and an incredible ride all around! Own a 2023 black gsx S1000

@cmbiker

Жыл бұрын

@@DasChristoff Agreed. I have a 2022 GSX-S1000 and love it!!!

@Daniel-dj7fh

Жыл бұрын

@@DasChristoff I think if he argues "like the idea of low down shove as opposed to top end power" he means that he doesn't need 150hp because it's unusable on the streets (without being unresponsible fast). I think the gsxs1k looks alot better. But I too would never get one because I have a hard time using all my gears on my cb500f which has 1/3 of the powe the gsxs has? My second gear does 90kmh, pop it to 3rd and I'm done on the backroads, what do you need 150hp for, you know? But then this wouldn't make sense with the bit that he would like to see a 1050 (for what ever reason 1000cc is not enough).

@ewganhoff

Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-dj7fh I’ve never owned a bike as fast as the gsx1000, but I have owned bikes with around 100hp and I did use all the gears and all the revs on a regular basis. I don’t consider breaking the speed limit to be irresponsible, I consider riding too fast for the conditions to be irresponsible. Sometimes going 120mph on a road with a 60 limit is fine just like 40mph can be too fast in a 60 depending on the road and conditions.

@DoctorStrange01

10 ай бұрын

@@DasChristoff Dude you don't need "way more hp and torque" to ride 80-140 km/h, lol. It's not the better option. 8S can still achieve speeds you don't need to reach, nor you should on a public road, and the torque is enough to kill yourself anyway :)

I saw this bike at the dealer yesterday and I was impressed how it looks and feels. Really a quality machine for the money. When I sat on it the bike felt very roomy and comfy (I'm 187 cm), way better than the Honda Hornet which I tried also. I haven't ridden the 8s, but my first impression is that this bike offers high build quality for the money. I was really impressed yesterday by this bike which I wasn't expecting on forehand to be honest. Well done Suzuki.

@leeengelsman1855

Жыл бұрын

That sounds good to me are are the foot pegs scrunchy to you?, Is the seat wide and padded enough? for long stints in the saddle? ie 3-4 hours+.

@robertdobbelaer8503

Жыл бұрын

@@leeengelsman1855 it is still a naked bike, so don't expect miracles on longer rides. It felt very comfortable to me, including saddle and footpeg position. It is much more comfortable than a Kawasaki z900 which I know quite wel. Can't say much more about it without riding it....

@Daniel-dj7fh

Жыл бұрын

I dunno man I think it looks like ass, especially in the blue. But yet again the gsxs1000 looks really chonky, in a good way.

@wlt3585

4 ай бұрын

​@Daniel-dj7fh it has a cyberpunk design that I'm a sucker for, and the slitted 'eyes' remind me of a predator. Overall I think they nailed the 8S design. I was hoping the 8R would grow on me as well, but it looks a little too much like the GSXR I spent 2 years with to really stand out

The trouble is when well known KZread bike reviewers goes to the same Bike launch we get a dozen variations of the same thing!!😂

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

Very true, but I think we all have our own unique view. I'm slow AF so you can see it from that perspective 😂

@Tommy-Atkins

Жыл бұрын

@@Englishbikerdan I actually enjoyed yours the best as most of us are average bikers too so can see the bike being ridden with a tad more reality!😉👌

A few things the spec sheet warriors may not notice, it has mounts for paddock stand bobbins, the horn button is in the conventional position, it has an oil level sight glass and a proper size rear tyre. So, none of the things that niggle me before I've swung a leg over it😊

@Druezy

Жыл бұрын

As someone who is looking to get this as their first bike next year a lot of reviews just repeat the same thing. Those small things sound quite useful through the lifetime of the bike!

A worthy successor to the original 1999 ‘curvy’ SV650. Finally!

@leeengelsman1855

Жыл бұрын

The legacy of the SV is etched in stone it will not be soon forgotten what's not to like? about it. A full 800cc lighter weight new generation vvt version of it would have been great.

Suzuki is back!!! 👏🙏

Nice stunning view and bike! Thanks for the review, and also editing in the Suzuki team's video showing how they filmed you. That was interesting.

Brilliant that Dan! Really enjoyed that buddy, oh the memories of that road...

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

Cheers dude! That mountain pass! ❤️

Great review, one of the best on KZread Thanks much appreciated 👍

Nice to see us Brits aren't the only country to dig a cable trench down the middle of a great piece of road....😂

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

Right!? Bloody awful! 😂

@axelfiraxa

Жыл бұрын

That is why Romanians flock to the UK, so many uncanny similarities

@MrBinkz

Жыл бұрын

Same in New Zealand 😂

Fantastic review, well done Dan!! Great to see you again today, made my day!!

i'm following you from the early days. and i've noticed ur skills in editing are so mutch improved! i love it how your growing. always nice informative videos with great sound. keep it up mate

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!!

Dan, the production quality is top-notch. I mean, sure, I've like the video, but it doesn't do it any justice. I feel like 3 or 4 thumbs up would sum it up much better! Your videos are absolutely superb, do keep 'em coming, please! Cheers!

Well done Dan, an excellent review as always.

Your stuff is getting better Dan, here's a sub.

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. ☺️

Thanks for the review. Looking back on the design study, this is actually how I expected the new Hornet 750 to look :D

Great review! Love the intro. Think I prefer this to the Hornet. Certainly to look at.

Thanks for the great video as per, Dan! This bike is on my list of contenders as a first one for when I get my license this year (along with CB650R and Trident 660) love watching your content. Cheers and have a great weekend.

Susuki do not release new bikes very often, but when they do they are barn stormers!❤

@svaralen

Жыл бұрын

I think if they update the SV650 with better suspension, the same tft dash and breaks, suzuki can have also a best seller 👍

@eirikaustad7580

Жыл бұрын

@@svaralen New design, TFT-display, Quick Shifter, Slipper clutch, on and off toggleable TC, better brakes and suspension and tires and make the engine a 750 or 800cc. The old SV650 will start to struggle with emissions soon probably so more power and displacement in that engine would be good.

@jaafersa

Жыл бұрын

@@svaralen With the new Euro emissions, I would not be surprised if this bike replaces the SV650 in Europe

@svaralen

Жыл бұрын

@@jaafersa I know unfortunatly. The good thing for me, I live in Serbia so not in the EU so we still don't have those stupid laws...

@user-tm9ho3bm4v

Жыл бұрын

​@@svaralen If they update it, it's gonna go up in the cbr's price range and under these circumstances why not just get the cbr.

Better looking than the others in its class.

Sounds good! Looks like a lot of fun! ❤

Interesting to see these parallel twin battles emerging. Hornet, RS/Tuono 660, this new Suzi. Interesting time for the midrange road rider.

Hey great video :) what a ride you had I’m very jealous and hopefully I’ll be able to ride there one day, bike seams pretty nice 👌

🔥 adding this to the garage soon.

Loved the review thanks for posting 👍🏻

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Pete!

Very nice review. It seems like a decent offering & probably my favourite in the category overall. Despite possibly not being the best in any one area, it seems like a great all round package. Seemingly better than the MT07 & Z650, more style & class than the Hornet (imo). Plus it comes with a standard QS, bigger brakes & rear tyre over the Hornet too. It's also presumably more reliable & definitely has a larger dealer network than the KTM, is cheaper than a Tuono (which I love) & comparable to the classy Trident & the nice CB650R. Suzuki's new 7 year / 70,000 mile warranty is also a big appeal for me too. Although test ride required for sure to see how the suspension copes with our ropey roads.

@J2I3H

Жыл бұрын

Agree with all of the above. The tuono has horrible reliability! The Japanese will always be better than the rest. Mt07/xsr700 are way lighter, but also a bit dinky/plasticky

@ragerider6283

Жыл бұрын

@@J2I3H Yes agreed. The Aprilia's weren't great when they first came out but are supposedly better now? Either way though it's a significantly more expensive & risky purchase as it's never going to be more reliable than the Suzuki. Forgot about the XSR700 but not my thing styling wise.

@gsm_liv8980

Жыл бұрын

What I'm concerned about is the fuel economy. The Hornet consumes much less than this bike (~50mpg > 38mpg), and it has a bigger tank too (15.2l > 14l). Realistically as normal riders, we can achieve more on the 8S than that of those journos, but remember that both stats are measured in testing condition, so for us average riders the Hornet is still much better on fuel.

@ragerider6283

Жыл бұрын

@@gsm_liv8980 Suzuki claim 67mpg ( I'm dubious) but if you like the Hornet, it has a bigger tank & supposedly better fuel economy, then get that if it suits your needs better. They're both decent bikes & you can't go wrong with either.

@gsm_liv8980

Жыл бұрын

@@ragerider6283 Nah i'm actually leaning against the 8S more. Just a shame that the engine is thirsty, the range could be better and indicators should have been LED stock. But otherwise I dig the bike.

I’ve watched all the launch videos. You and 44 teeth are clearly the best

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

That's very kind of you! Mossy is a legend.

@LambChopRides

Жыл бұрын

Git..

Thats a cracking looking bike👍

I normally ride a gen 1 rsvr millie and an older Ducati 750 F1 . Took one of the 8s for a test ride and was super impressed at the comfort handling agility and lots of low and mid end push. A genuinely surprisingly good bike that would hold its own with a lot of more powerful machines in the tight stuff. Lots of fun.

Thank you very much for this excellent video Dan. Love the scenery. Would you give this one the edge over the new 750 Hornet?

Beautiful views my gosh! Bike has my attention too...may well be my next one!

I'm just dreaming of a new 850 SV 🥰😍

@chrishart8548

Жыл бұрын

And a v-twin of course

@viarnay

Жыл бұрын

@@chrishart8548 Absolutely..

@trevorphillips3055

Жыл бұрын

That's a dream you'll have to savour! Before long, the SV will be gone as it'll need development to meet eu regs. Plus they won't want to make a v twin as they cost more to manufacture. A real shame, but I fear the end is near.

@VinCode17

5 ай бұрын

​@trevorphillips3055 👍

This is a real do it all bike, doesnt Excel in anything, but looks good is reliable and will make you smile because of the versatility. I think its a winner for suzuki. Now Yamaha need to make the mt-08 with usd fork and 85 hp😎

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

Agreed RE Yamaha. MT08 would be great.

Great review. I've put my order in for one in black. Hoping to arrive in the next few weeks. Although the blue looks awesome I'm hoping I made a good choice 😂

@VinCode17

5 ай бұрын

Did you get in black? The blue one is my next bike.

Great vid as always, I'm looking at this as my next bike, between this and triumph trident, when/if do you think you'll ride it in the UK?

Great review.. i love the new GSX 8S. Currently own a SV 650 2017 model and thinking of switching to GSX when it becomes available for purchase. Also great intro song. I will be glad to know more details for the song .. cheers .

That road looks terrifying and they would be waiting way longer for me to catch up😂

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

It had some very hairy moments and was icy in some places!

@leeengelsman1855

Жыл бұрын

No biggy so learn how to corner well!.

@carlostomas3698

10 ай бұрын

@@leeengelsman1855what’s wrong with his corners?!

Dan, consider doing the IAM/ROSPA advanced training. It helped me learn to read corners and become a quicker/better rider.

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

Already got some stuff in the works. Cheers.

Dan goes '50 pence-ing it' in the Sarf of France - I love it! Don't believe the hype about tyres being 'specially developed' for a bike. What it means is that the has done a deal with the to supply thousands of tyres at the best price. Particularly with Japanese Dunlops, the OEM compound is usually different (harder, less sticky) than the same tyre bought as a replacement, which is why they inevitably get changed asap. If you watch MotoBob's review of the 790 Duke, the GSX-8S is amazing value & isn't made to a price in China.

Great to see Suzuki have something new to offer, not just a re-work. It seems a lot of manufacturers are going over to a twin cylinder power plant, personally I love it, I'm sure it will sell really well, nice one Suzuki and another great video Dan 👍👏

Great review Dan

Its Been a long Time Since I Desired a Suzuki, but this one is the Bike to Do it ...for me

@chrishart8548

Жыл бұрын

Last one I desired was a DR350SE in white purple and yellow

can't wait for the long-term review on your usual roads, and of course the comparison with the new hornet and mt-07.

@user-tm9ho3bm4v

Жыл бұрын

Both the hornet and this are better than the mt. The mt is good if you're a street hooligan, the engine is great but other than that there's not much to write home about...

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

Same, should be happening soon. And I will be testing the new MT07 soon.

I didn't pay much attention to this bike when it was launched but now I think it is growing on me. An all new everything is a very rare thing for Suzuki, and this one has all the bells and whistles a rider could ever need. I had an SV650 once and loved it. I'm sold with Suzuki as a brand and what they stand for. I'm rambling but in a nutshell, switching bikes is not an option at the moment but if ever I do, this will likely be in the shortlist.

@Englishbikerdan

8 ай бұрын

Yeah it's an interesting time for Suzuki. And they aren't done yet with new models either! I hope you can get a new bike in near future. Cheers!

I've watched this video like 10 times now in anticipation of finally buying this bike. Not sure which color yet though, I'm torn between black and blue. I must say though that the video quality is insane and you are a great reviewer.

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike! Enjoy your new bike! 👍

I’m in the market for a middle bike, this looks like a winner, does it all!!

Great review! I like the looks of this better than the Hornet. And thanks for the reminder to always ride your own ride.

@salvospedale4357

Жыл бұрын

La hornet è superiore in tutto, e venderà il triplo di questo carretto

@rogerp4612

Жыл бұрын

@Salvo Spedale I haven't ridden either bike, have you ridden both? Looks are subjective, so I can hardly be wrong about my personal preference for the style of the Suzuki. From reviews I have watched, the Hornet can be pretty cramped for a larger rider, where the Suzuki is more accommodating. Price difference is somewhat offset by the fact that a quickshifter is standard on the Suzuki and extra on the Honda. I also don't love the skinny bicycle-looking rear tire on the Honda. Superior in all respects? Nope. Heck of a bike all the same.

@gsm_liv8980

Жыл бұрын

@@rogerp4612 The price difference will increase if LED indicators are your concern. Those bulky halogen indicators have no business being on this handsome-looking bike

@rogerp4612

Жыл бұрын

@gsm_liv those are not a big concern for me. For almost any bike on offer, there are one or two tweaks I would make. Turns signals don't enter the realm of deal-breaker for me.

Thanks Dan, What stunning scenery to ride the more than competent and great looking "8S" Happy to see you riding at your safe level on an unknown and potentially treacherous road too. :>)

I absolutely love this bike. Just the looks, stats, and everything in the package all just seem perfect for a rider like me. It may be a bit heavy but I'm sure it's something you'll get used to and hopefully not feel on the road

@leeengelsman1855

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't worry too.much about the weight against the competition. Your right you will quickly adapt ; Added grunt will assist with cornering balance and punching out of the bends.

@FSH-fv6ww

Жыл бұрын

@@leeengelsman1855 I mean, my current bike only weighs in at like 170kg, so that extra 30kg might be a bit of a feel (plus I weigh in at like 60kg). Hopefully it’ll be good in traffic 🤞

@leeengelsman1855

Жыл бұрын

@@FSH-fv6ww current SV's weigh more than the originals but most people don't consider because they don't know it . All they know is it feels great has a nice sound and is grunty. The people whom design these have been at it for a long time they know how to make pleasing motorcycles. Why people presume that they more than manufacturers by modifying bikes with crude aftermarket junk is mystifying to me.

i realy like honda's, but hey man, you hit the spot with this video on suzuki :) well done.

it's definitely a cool bike !!

glad to see you riding your own ride. Worry about you!!!! chasing faster riders

It looks better than the hornet but i cant wait to see if it has better perormance too

With good low end and mid level torque it’s perfect for city/freeway driving.

@leeengelsman1855

Жыл бұрын

But much better in the twisties.

Love the video and that bike

Hey Dan Having now ridden the New Hornet & 8S, which do you prefer? Must admit after sitting on them both at the Excel in Feb based on seating position and feel I prefer the 8S.

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

I'll need to ride the 8S on my local roads to figure out which I'd buy.

Another great review, thanks. How does the handling compare with the older GSX S750? Is the 8S an apex predator? The 8S will retail for the equivalent of Stg 8,500 here. They are still selling the old GSX S750s for Stg6,370. So that is a 33% premium for new looks, the tech and 32 less BHP. Is the 8S 33% more fun?

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

It's been a while since I've ridden the 750, but from memory that felt more agile.

@paulconnell1309

Жыл бұрын

Me too and from memory it was very agile I. Town or the BRoads despite its weight. Just watched your GSX S750 review. You loved it I think. Better than on paper and that Gizzer howl.

Looks quite good in a real world setting, wasn't sure about the looks before hand

"I want to see mountains Gandalf" perfect line for a beautiful scenery and motorcycle.

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

hehe.

Your channel is really sick thanks for making this happen was really curious about this bike. A new bike from suzuki what?!?? Lol love suzuki 😂

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! ☺️

I like the digital ammeter readout but don't think there's many folk who wouldn't swap a quickshifter for the fitment of braided hoses as standard. I personally can't stand a spongy feel to front brakes. This seems like a pretty decent bike but may struggle against the Honda Hornet. Isn't it about a grand more expensive ? I must say, as a bloke who's your height and has the same inside leg measurement, but a pretty light 9 stone 3 lbs undressed, it makes a change to see a bike with a rear shock that wouldn't be so hard as to be rocketing me off the seat a lot of the time, even over small bumps. Had to have my own bike resprung with a lighter spring, as it had been aggravating my cervical myelopathy something awful, even when totally backed off.

How was the peg hight? Were they as high as the faster naked sports?

Had test rides on both hornet and GSX8S, hornet is great bike for the money the one tested had a quick shifter which was a bit jerky but that could have been me, was very flickable, lighter and more power but no quick shifter as standard. Gsx8 is heavier although you don’t notice it, quick shifter seemed smoother and pull from low rpm was smoothe. I am older rider 6ft tall 32 inside leg and gsx8 fits me perfect, I’ve ordered white one and can’t wait.

nice review. have question for you since you own SV, and im considering one. do you think and will you chose 8s over SV ?

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

I already chose the SV, so a bit of a difficult one for me to answer. I would certainly consider the 8S if I had not bought the SV.

@djurcinovski

Жыл бұрын

@@Englishbikerdan waiting for 8s to arrive so I can test them back to back

Great review I’ve watched it twice , certainly an interesting motorcycle but if you were picking which would you own Hornet , MT07, GSX8-S ?

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, tough question. It would definitely be between the Hornet and 8S.

The looks are growing on me, I'd like to see one with a screen. For what you get, the price is excellent. The colourway I'd go for is the Glass Sparkle Black / Metallic Matt Black No.2 (KGL). It's a Suzuki, so you can guarantee the bike will be reliable. But, in the UK you get a 3-Year Warranty anyway, with Suzuki AA Roadside Assistance-what not to like!

That road looks so awesome I want to experience it. What area of france was that in again?

@stevenrix7277

Жыл бұрын

Antibes, southeast of France, it's between Cannes and Nice.

Nice bike. I really want to test ride one. what a beautiful place for a bike launch, I really want to see comparisons with the Honda Hornet and and also the Trident with similar HP. that road you are test riding on is like some of the canyons in California where if you mess up you either go into a rock cliff that will turn you into hamburger or you go off in the other direction and you are down a steep mountain side or off a cliff. either way you are screwed. I heard in another video that one of the test riders went down. I hope they are ok. I am really curious about the ride of this bike compared to the Hornet considering its over a grand more money. is there something about the bike that justifies that price difference considering that the Honda is 90HP. which is more than the 83 of the GSX8s. and the Honda is also lighter, is the GSX8s maybe more stable and confident inspiring ? better fit and finish ? I am looking forward to finding out in some comparison videos. hopefully someone makes a good one. I do like the looks of the Suzuki more than the Hornet. but I'm not sure that justifies the price difference.

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it was a stunning location for sure! Yes, a lady journo had a small off but she got straight back on another bike and all was good! I'll do a comparison vid soon! Thanks!

I just wish i could get past the blue wheels. But it's just too fast 😂. Seriously though, even though i hate twins, it's a cracking little bugger. I recommend to all but the most die hard of Vespa fans.

Ok I’m getting this one

will this be good second bike (after KTM390 2018my) for 188cm tall 100kilo guy? considering this or new xsr900

Have to. Ask you, as you have ridden both, if you had to buy one would it be this one or the Hornet ?

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

I'd need to ride the 8S a little more to decide. I've ridden the Hornet quite a lot recently.

Hey Dan nice review. How does it compare to the SV650? Is it much better?

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, better across the board. Which isn't surprising as the SV is getting on a bit.

What an absolutely gorgeous road and scenery! Where is it please?

I wonder if it's possible to put on clip-on handlebars on the bike 🤔

Suzuki is making a comeback and I think behind closed doors is a secret GSXR given the entire line up has gotten an update aside from the M109 and more simple machines that are probably better left alone.

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

A GSXR800 would be great. They are also working on getting the GSXR1000 through emissions for Europe.

Great review. Can't wait for you to do a head-to-head against the Hornet.

@povilaslondon

Жыл бұрын

It has nothing against the hornet. Suzuki dropped the ball very low. And what the hell is that light doing in the tail unit?

@gsm_liv8980

Жыл бұрын

@@povilaslondon Spec sheets aren't everything, and a veteran rider's perspective on both bikes back-to-back is more valuable imo than what any spec sheets can provide. For the tail unit, I guess it's very... KTM-ish? But yeah it's a bit messy compared to the Hornet. I don't think it looks that bad though.

@povilaslondon

Жыл бұрын

@@gsm_liv8980 well mcn did amazing coverage on new Hornet vs MT07 and honda stole the crown from mt easily. I also think that Neeves is the best motorcycle journalist there is. Check their video, you will like it.

@gsm_liv8980

Жыл бұрын

@@povilaslondon Yep I did watch that vid before, but that is the Hornet against the MT. The 8S seems to be a completely different motorcycle than the MT?

@chrishart8548

Жыл бұрын

​@gsm_liv how Is the 8 a completely different motorcycle they all look exactly the same to me except a few cc different and a couple of hp

Would you choose this or the Hornet? Great review and stunning roads.

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

Ooh good question, one I'll answer in due course!

4:00. FortNine has an important video about balancing called "Why Millions of People Ride Harley Davidsons," on their KZread channe, where Ryan explains that you don't actually need the balance shaft that balances the crankshaft front to back, because when you vibrate the engine front to back (like what happens in a Harley with a single crankpin engine) the vibration is absorbed totally when you're at speed and rolling, because the vibration is merged into the forward motion of the motorcycle so it mostly totally dissipates once you're moving. It's the up and down vibration which is the problem, and it seems like Suzuki might have messed up by trying to balance all the axis of the engine simultaneously, and not succeeding to balance the up and down vibration properly in the meat of the power band where the bike spends most of it's time. The balance shafts themselves, probably create their own harmonics at certain speeds, which would explain the buzz. The 2nd Gen Hayabusa is very smooth above 2,700 rpms, and never gets any rough buzzing, only a faint vibration that you can barely feel. and it's a huge motor and only has one single counterbalancer. The ZX-14 is apparently glass smooth, smoother than the Hayabusa, and has twin counterbalancers and it's a 1440cc engine. A parallel twin should be a bit easier to balance, as the harmonics should be less complex than a 4 cylinder, but the 270 degree crank might be a totally new design for Suzuki in their entire history as a motorcycle company. I expect that they will redesign the balance shafts and tuning in future iterations, and you'll see that buzzing disapear. They might also change the gearing, a higher gear would solve the problem faster than redesigning the engine. Modern motorcycles are notoriously geared too low.

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

I like Fortnine. But I'm sure Suzuki engineers, who've been in the game for decades, know what they are doing.

@GIGABACHI

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure that bottom balancer makes the whole engine architecture more awkward than it had to be. A Parallel Twin by nature it's tall, having a balancer in the oil pan pretty sure doesn't make it any shorter. Sometimes engineers have "too many choices" and end up putting together a shitty mix of parts and mechanical theories that don't make anyone happy other than themselves. But hey ! At least they are still trying to look like they haven't shit the bed for good. 💀 Let's see how much longer they can keep their charade of being the Walmart of motorcycles.

At 10:46 is the road us locals call the James bond road but also used in Jonny English, Ronin etc

Love the bike. My only complaint is the brake light isn't on the tail itself. When removing that fender, may be a pain to find an option for the brake light.

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it'll cause some head scratching for tail tidies.

Bought one your review. The white one. F...... Awesome

@Englishbikerdan

3 ай бұрын

Hope you enjoy! 👌

My invitation must have gotten lost in the mail again😢Looks like heaps of fun, stunning panorama pittoresco.

@simonchilli2088

Жыл бұрын

Being called HondaRyder might put Suzuki off😅

Was wondering whereabouts in Spain this is Dan? Looks like maybe Andalusia - sorry if you mentioned it somewhere, but what a spectacular bit of road. Gotta love Espana

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

Check the first 5 seconds. 😃 Antibes in South of France. Near Cannes and Nice basically. 👍

@Bob-tq2jv

Жыл бұрын

@@Englishbikerdan cheers Dan

I'm glad to see Suzuki hasn't lost its "hi hi hu hu ha ha" effect..😊

You have ridden and reviewed many similar bikes including this one, the hornet, cbr650, you bought the sv650. Are you still happy with the sv650, or do you wish you had one of these other bikes?

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

Happy with my SV for now. I didn't buy it based on the spec sheet, but for its charming character.

@korazon3spinado

Жыл бұрын

Right but I wondered if you were still happy with your decision

Suzuki were once THE manufacturer for sports bikes and when they announced a new model the other three of the Japanese big four worried, they brought us revolutionary bikes like the X7, GS750, GS1000, RG500, XN85, GSX-R750, 600 Bandit and SV650 but now the whole GSX-R range is no more and Suzuki don't have a single leader in any category. as someone who's owned eight Suzuki's from the RGV250, RG500 through all the GSX-Rs up to the 1000R it really saddens me to see the company at rock bottom and the GSX-8S won't raise them any higher, it's much heavier than every other budget naked middleweight and up to £1,000 dearer so why would anyone choose it over the Hornet or KTM790, it's obvious Suzuki are pulling out of making bikes (they've already pulled out of MotoGP, WSBK and every international series) so just pull the plug now rather than this long lingering death and leave us with the memories of the great bikes they once made.

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

You think they'd spend all that time and money developing a new engine platform to pull out of making bikes? This bike will sell very well. They are simply adapting to the changing market demands.

@yonniboy1

Жыл бұрын

@@Englishbikerdan They've shown that bikes are now a tiny part of the company and have gone from one of the market leaders to rock bottom with no flagship, unlike Honda and Yamaha who have something in every category that competes with the best, name a Suzuki that does, this is their first new bike in years and IMO not one to blow away their rivals. even relatively small companies like Triumph are producing great bikes like the latest Street triple that are market leaders.

Great review - thanks.

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

You had me at oohlala. :)) Subbed!

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

@hisnameisrentoo

Жыл бұрын

@@Englishbikerdan Thanks for the videos!

Where in France are these roads?!?! BREATHTAKING.

😸very Nice video😺 👍

Dan would you prefer the SV650 or the Gsx8s for a ride in the mountains?

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

I'd have to ride both in the mountains first.

@jimbo1485

Жыл бұрын

@@Englishbikerdanmaybe I should rephrase. Would you rather ride the gsx8s or the sv650 on a twisty road. I assume you have ridden your SV650 in. Twisty road before?

looks fun! how does it compare to your sv650?

@Englishbikerdan

Жыл бұрын

The SV is showing its age, but still a fun bike to ride.

@paliccolo

Жыл бұрын

@@Englishbikerdan I currently only have money for the SV as a hobby motorcycle. If it's close in the fun department I'm just going for it. Here in Hungary the difference is about 2360 English pounds.

@alanpassmore2275

Жыл бұрын

Imagine if Suzuki had update the SV style and engine to a 800cc 😍😍😍

@loztagain8278

Жыл бұрын

@@alanpassmore2275 bring back the sv1000

@richardsadventures4958

Жыл бұрын

​@@alanpassmore2275that's what the customer wants!!