I like that you use everyday people for your reviews. They are not sponsored and just love to ride. Good people from the Longville area to boot. I own two Victory motorcycles and I can tell you Polaris builds rock solid 4stroke engines. Great review Levi!

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I have trusted Polaris since day 1, long before I ever had a relationship with Polaris. But I can understand why people might question my opinion so I try to get other folks to join in on the reviews in hopes it helps people find the right sled for them. There are so many options in snowmobiling and they large investment towards your fun, my goal is to help educate people so they can find the right sled so they have the most fun when out snowmobiling. 👍🏼

@ryanbenbow-zx2sd

11 ай бұрын

Boon Michigan is the place to be. In Michigan They have a store and a bonfire and you can get None ethanol gas😅

@ryanbenbow-zx2sd

9 ай бұрын

​@@Levi_LaValleeI would give it a ten. Then a eight. I think is race ready It would be cool for the salt saint Marie race

I snowcheked a 2023 Adventure x2 with the S4 engine. As a 57 year old llooking to get back into the sport, I`m looking forward to riding this thing.

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Great sled to get out cruising and enjoying the outdoors by yourself or with a friend.

@patgenier1965

2 жыл бұрын

@@Levi_LaVallee Thanks for the reply. Can I ask if there might be a plan soon for you to visit Rosseau MN like your buddy Dan from Nxt Lvl did? Maybe show us a bit about the "Indy " and Flat lander side of things? Maybe some peeks at the S4 engine?

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

@@patgenier1965 good call! I am actually going to Roseau this summer but wasn't planning to shoot anything.... But that is a great idea! let me see if I can come up with something.

I ride a 4 stroke powered 900 ace Skidoo MXZ.I have to say this engine is going to be good competition in the sled business. Looks like a winner for Polaris.I like it alot

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your input Jason. It is exciting for Polaris to be back in the 4 stroke sled world.

Thanks for Review! Polaris gets it! There is a market for that. Older trail riders, and young beginning riders. Sure wish I could have brought my ZR5000 4 stroke Arctic Cat and rode and compared. Polaris has a great chassis!

Finally. Finally. FINALLY Polaris came back with the 4stroke!! Great review, Levi and the rest of the Longville club.

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Bob, Dave and Sharron, Dave were great.

I ordered the Voyager back in the spring kinda blind but after seeing this , it helped me understand better and thats comforting. Tks

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

Great trail sled and the new S4 engine is smooth as it gets. very easy to ride.

And sorry I`m late with this but Thank you for giving us this real world review. Good group of testers.

A pair of these would definitely make for a great addition to our rental fleet!!

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely!

Enjoyed the video, thank you. I think this machine will be very popular, power output on par with ski-doo’s 900 ace and they are very good trail machines. Good for Polaris loyals

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Great to see it in the line up for 2023

Another great video. So glad to see the group you put together for this video having fun on the sleds and giving real world feedback. There are a lot of great snowmobile options, just have to be honest and pick the best one for your type of riding. How did the Polaris adjustable shocks perform on this sled?

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Great on the groomed trails. haha. The trails were pretty smooth so we didn't get a good shake down on the shocks to see how they performed.

Would love to test ride one alright. Alot of Ace four-stroke out here in the bush of Alaska. Would be nice to compare one to a 900 ace

Great video you guys!

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

Nice video review, Levi! Nice to see feedback from real-world riders. I am glad to see Polaris offering a viable four stroke. This will be a great sled for large segment of the market. P.S. - How does the ProStar S4 Boost feel?... 😉🤗🤫🤣

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Yes great to see them back in the 4 stroke market. It will be fun to see what come in the future!

It’s been a long time coming. I think it will be a hit for Polaris. 4 stroke sleds aren’t my cup of tea but, the ease of use and no 2 stroke oil costs and headaches might be worth another look into the 4 strokes.

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

One of the biggest positives to a four stroke is exactly what you said. Minimal maintenance, better mileage = more time riding.

@907buschmin2

Жыл бұрын

Have u tried arctic cat apv oil? I ise that in all my 2stroke motors because its clean burning and smells good. I stay away from castrol, polaris blue, and amsoil because of the smell

My 2014 Switchback Assault is getting up there in age and mileage and I'm not getting any younger myself. The Indy XC with the S4 is an option for me when the time comes to snow check another sled.

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a great option for you.

I currently run skidoo 4 stroke sleds and i have family that run the 900 ace renegade adrenaline models that produce about the same horsepower. I love that Polaris finally released a comparable sled, just wish i could demo one for a long ride to compare to the skidoos, the things folks that buy these look for is what is offered by both sleds, ease of throttle pull, good power from corner to corner, ability to stay warm, easy to read gages, and it seems most of all things, fuel mileage (my brother is constantly bringing it up at the pump). Good review, now find some current skidooers to try them and open some eyes!

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

Hello. Thank you for your input. Once I get my S4 I plan to do a milage video , but I might see if I can come up with ways to show more about the other topics you listed. Where do you live? Maybe you are the Skidooer to open eyes?

@deanurbanek6577

Жыл бұрын

@@Levi_LaVallee I live in Wausau Wi and have a cabin north of the derby track in eagle river and I ride every weekend it is possible!

My personal sleds are an Assault and an RMK. However, we just picked up a 4-stroke Titan to pull our drags to groom trails. So far, it has been awesome. We groom at about 9 mph in low gear. This thing has so much low end torque. Maybe toward the end of the winter, I’ll post a longer term review.

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment. It would be perfect for the grooming with the Titan!

After Looking up the parts Fiche. I'm disappointed it doesn't have a chain and gear case you can customize. I was disappointed about that when I bought my 08 FST...Looks like I'll be keeping my Yamaha for another year and 9 Older then 04 Polaris's.

Glad to see you are reviewing a smaller hp sled. Not everyone wants a big hp sled. I think polaris is smart by starting off with this small 4 stroke sled and working there way up as there is always something that comes up and needs attention b4 adding big power to it. Just curious Levi do you ever ride different manufacturers sleds? I'm sure you wonder what they are like and would like to try them I know I would.

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, It is great to see Polaris get into the smaller HP 4 stroke game. I have rode on some other brand sleds in the past but very little.

I boought a s4 two up this spring 600 miles in 2 weeks great ride waiting for snow

@Levi_LaVallee

11 ай бұрын

Great sled

I know something you haven't done and that's the Cains Quest snowmobile endurance race located in Labrador

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

that is true! I'll have to put it on the list

I want a polaris chassis with a yamaha 4 stroke because I like reliability. To me this would be the ultimate machine

HAY LEVI, MISS YA NOT POSTIN' AS OFTEN... WOW, THAT SLED LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE ONE FOR ME... THANX FOR SHAIRIN' SHOW MORE CONTENT... PLEASE??? PEACE...

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

I am hoping to create a lot more content next snow season.

@gringopines3476

2 жыл бұрын

@@Levi_LaVallee THANX LEVI, YOU'RE THE BEST-... FORGET THE REST... PEACE

i have to be wise guy, have you raced cross country or soo 500, i wish i had your driving skills love what you do to promote the sport & the BEST snowmobile brand

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Howdy! Yes I actually started off racing cross country before snocross. Cross country racing was happening all around us in northern MN when I was a kid. Cross country racing helped me a lot with learning how to lean and corner for when I started racing snocross. Unfortunately I have not raced at the Soo though. I tried the I-500 a couple years in a row back when it was held Warroad MN but didn't make it very far either year.

Gonna be tough for them to compete in the 4-stroke market against Yamaha and especially Ski-Doo but more competition is always a good thing so we'll see what happens.

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

I can understand where you are coming from, but what's exciting is Polaris has done a heck of a job in the offroad world with their 4 strokes. If they apply that knowledge from offroad to their 4 stroke snowmobile program, there is a lot of potential. 😃

@bikingwithryan5968

2 жыл бұрын

@@Levi_LaVallee I could definitely see Polaris having a 4 stroke sled pushing up near 200 up in the future. That’s for sure

Let's go for a atv ride this summer! I have a built Yamaha raptor 770cc, I don't live too far away from your neck of the woods. I live inbeween Polaris industries and arctic cat, let me know if you want to meet some of the engineer's from either... Jack Nelson just retired he is president of the fourtown grygla sportsman club, Mike Konickson. Ect... we can keep it low profile as well

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a good time!

I say I like going on long distance driving so the S4 will do that for me. I'm getting one very soon

@Levi_LaVallee

5 ай бұрын

Great sled for long rides- smooth and comfortable!

@markgregoryrugman7136

5 ай бұрын

@Levi_LaVallee yes and that is why I am looking for that sled and it's pretty affordable for a new sled

Curious to see how this powerplant will perform in the titan 🤔. I'm thinking the s4 will be a game changer in the fuel mileage category compared to the 800 cleanfire.

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

It will be significantly better with mileage in my prediction. Once I get my S4 I will do a mileage video.

I’d really like to test ride this sled. It’s not for me, I have someone specific in mind that I’d drag along. This would be a good candidate for Polaris to find a way to wedge the EPS from their Sportsman under the hood.

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

That would be awesome! Hopefully that becomes a reality

I'm curious if you know how accurate the speedo is? GPS verified? The reason I ask, is 80 real verses 90 with a 14% error would be just fine. I ordered 1, but I'm not selling my brand X turbo until I put a few miles on it. Really curious about fuel consumption. Also the sound. I suspect it sounds like a tractor or you'd let us hear it more....LOL. I'm an older guy, but still enjoy a good rip.

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Hello. Unfortunately I did not GPS test it for speed. We had everything set to do the fuel consumption test at the same time as this ride but I failed to reset the trip before we left. IT sounds like a four-stroke to me. I'm glad you pointed the lack of sound out, I will talk with the gentleman who helps edit the videos about that for future videos so we can hear the sleds more.

@whitepineproductions

Жыл бұрын

@@Levi_LaVallee Thanks for updating the video to include some engine sounds. Sounds better than the previous Weber engine. I ride a 2022 900R Skidoo which has lots of jam, but the reality is a sled with a lot less hp still gets you back for dinner at the same time. Hoping it is good on fuel for those big mile days.

Are you in the Fargo Moorhead area when I lived there it was cass clay counties?

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Longville Minnesota

Hi. I was waiting 2 years ago to buy sled from Polaris with 4 strokes. So decide to go with skidoo renegade 600 ACE….plan to change for the Polaris voyageur S4 (like the 146 in track)….still making studying about it. What do i expect about gas mileages on grooming trail average condition??

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

thats a great question and I meant to have tested that on the day we did this video, but unfortunately I didn't hit the reset on the trip before we left. The only thing I know is it used significantly less than the 850s we had with.

@patauger1193

2 жыл бұрын

@@Levi_LaVallee I know that early to get all the info. Polaris know for sure, with all the test they made. Many thanks 👍

No doubt a great sled to compete with the 900 ace.

@Levi_LaVallee

5 ай бұрын

Had a friend from PA switch from Doo to an S4 and he loves it!

Be nice to do a side-by-side comparison of this with 4-strokes from Ski-doo, Yamaha, and Arctic Cat.

@markgregoryrugman7136

5 ай бұрын

I herd that the 4 stroke Ski-Doo has a hoter temperature on the back end of it then the polaris ProStare Indy S4 XC

@markgregoryrugman7136

5 ай бұрын

Also comparing to my cousins 2009 Yamaha moto 4 stroke I say the engine is easier to get at in the Polaris ProStare Indy S4 XC than his Yamaha because he has to take off more plastics parts to get at his engine which he said is the only problem with it

@sheldonnicholl3599

5 ай бұрын

@@markgregoryrugman7136, there is/was a lot of plastic around the Genisis engine in the Yamaha snowmobiles. I still have a 2005 Vector. Runs well and lots of power. It was intimidating to pop the hood. Everything was hidden away under plastic. Not like, say, my 1997 Phazer II, where everything was pretty much exposed.

@markgregoryrugman7136

5 ай бұрын

That is why i want 4 stroke sled that has is easy to get at the engine and the 2024 Polaris ProStare Indy S4 XC has that option and im not wasting 20 minutes broken down on the trails ​@sheldonnicholl3599

Older I get the slower I ride but it’s just as fun, someday a 4 stroke will be perfect for me,not yet though 😂

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

haha I've got a few more years of speed in me too! 😉

I would like to know about fuel consumption ridden at a spirited pace ? High mileage 60+ MPH Quebec type trails. compared to a 650 2s

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

I planned to test that so I topped the tank off and was going to check it, but I failed to set the trip when we left. When we filled up it definitely took less than the 650 we had with, but we did not average 60+. I''ll make note of that for a video in the future. 👍🏼

@snostm

2 жыл бұрын

@@Levi_LaVallee Thank you so much for the reply.

@patgenier1965

2 жыл бұрын

@@Levi_LaVallee Id like to see info on that as well please. Maybe some estimates on distance to a Tank... Thanks.

As An Older Person Myself Now. With over 46 years riding. Over many Platforms here in Canada. With over 120 000 miles driven. Number 1 thing. Is the Seat soft and cushy over the day and is it tippy. I Don't wanna be putting my knees through much and I don't wanna stand up.

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

The seat foam was new for this year and the seat is softer than the 2022s. I rode my 22 XCR back to back with my 23 switchback and the seat was very noticeable.

Hi Do you need some great lighting for your car to help you better driving, off-road? We're the pro auto lighting manufacturer for nearly 20 year and we're looking for sponsorship!

Any idea what kind of RPM that sled was turning when you were wide open ? Just curious

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

Thats a great question. I didn't even look. Planning another video with the S4 so i'll try to remember to look

I have ordered a Indy S4 and I’m waiting on it to be delivered to my dealer! I’m a little concerned about seat comfort for a long day of trail riding. Also possible under steering on corners. Any comments?

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

Hello Jim. I am anxiously awaiting my S4 as well. I have some video ideas for it so I look forward to that. Regarding the seat- I recently went for a 160 mile ride on the North shore of Lake Superior and I was letting the guys try my Boost Assault and something that stood out to me was the difference in in the seat from the one gentleman's 2022 XCR seat (very firm) to the softer seat of the new Boost. Sharon rides a 2021 650 VR1and when she tried the S4 for this video she also commented about how much better the seat felt on the S4 compared to her sled. I few weeks ago I rode with some folks from NY and they turned me on to the heated seats. They swear by them for the long cold days so I am working on getting one to test out. Under Steer- When We took the S4 out last year I didn't notice any understeer. Admittedly, I was not pushing it hard in the trails to see if it understeers. with the additional weight of the 4 stroke engine in the front and the smooth power which makes it harder to pull the front end up, it should keep the front pretty planted. If it becomes an issue for you, go up on carbide on the wear bars or C A skis that bite i bit harder

@jimhoenecke8906

Жыл бұрын

@@Levi_LaVallee thanks very much for that feedback! I did order a heated seat also

I'm guessing it corners very well.

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it corners awesome! This ride was more to test the new engine, but for more on how the Matryx platform handles in the corners I talk more about it in kzread.info/dash/bejne/dKGWwbyFl7WZeM4.html . I love the Matryx on the trails!

In all honesty this sled is going after the Yamaha Viper riders who want a better ride with decent power. They don't expect it to be the first one across a lake. They want it to be a sled that rides like a Cadillac so long mile days are a dream and expect the motor to run trouble free for 20,000 miles. Levi will this do that?

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Mark. I can't speak to whether it will go 20k miles first hand as I have maybe 200 miles on the engine, but knowing the success Polaris has had with their four stroke engines in off-road makes me very confident in the engine. regarding the ride and ergonomics, the Matryx platform is outstanding! I love how how easy it is to move around on the Matryx.

How did you find so many old guys that just started riding. I'm 55 years old and I've been riding snowmobiles for 49 years. Where are those guys with the lifetime experience ?

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Bob has been riding since he was a teenager so I'd say at least 50 years of riding and Dave told me he started riding in 1972. Does 50+ years of experience qualify? Or if lifetime of experience is based on percentage of life riding, then I would qualify as the lifetime of experience starting. ;) Dave Shaw and Sharron are the newer riders, which i thought we had a good mix of rider experience in hopes of relating to a larger audience of rider.

@grantdubridge7995

2 жыл бұрын

@@Levi_LaVallee I only saw the guys saying the have been only riding for the fewer years. 1972 was when I went with my dad to Ace Hardware and picked up the new Ski Doo Nordic 440.

I run my 1998 polaris xlt special 600 WITH high octane ⛽...not as fast as my friends 2005 xlt.. but I'm satisfied with the performance...I replaced my carbs and my track....144 picks ... New shocks and skis...my friend had it for a weekend and he commented about the similarities of the 2.. top end was not as high but ...low to mid range is amazing...0 - 100kph in under 4 much lighter....so when I go full throttle...my arms and hands get sore....my buddy hooked me up with a homemade kit that pairs my gloves with the handlebars........ I can now feel the "G" force like I'm cornering in a Porsche.. Anyone else have this Modified setup?

@leftyeh6495

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a great way to break your wrists in a wreck. Try hitting the gym so you can just hang onto the bars?

i smell future turbo!!!!!! 160++++hp!!!! maybe join the 4 stroke turbo war at 180+ hp in future?

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

haha We'll have them in RZRs so we'll see!

If you like long rides on a frozen beach the swipe right on Levi and the S4 🤣

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

LOL

I will take a light powerful two stroke over a four stroke any day.

Have you backflipped a 4 stroke tho????

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Only 4 stroke dirt bikes. in fact the very first thing I ever backflipped to the ground (not foam pit) was a 450 four stroke dirt bike.

I read it weighs high 500s low 600s why so heavy ?

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure the official weight but four strokes are usually much heavier than 2 strokes because there is more to them.

@edwinhermanson8842

2 жыл бұрын

@@Levi_LaVallee Got that it's just those numbers seem too high comparing to other 4 strokes. Will have to see what the true numbers are

@leftyeh6495

2 жыл бұрын

It's comparable to other 4t. Yamaha makes the heaviest sled last time I witnessed them weighted on the same scale.

So no backflips with this one?

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

I got it in the air ditch banging it, but I'm leaning towards probably not flipping it anytime soon. haha

What’s the price on the S4 ?

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

I believe it is the same price as a 650. The 850 is a little more then both the 650 and S4

Levi we all want to here what it sounds like/so this would be like a 600????

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

If you remember the 500 2 stroke engine power from previous years (indy 500s etc.) it is around the same power as that.

@bradwood6754

2 жыл бұрын

@@Levi_LaVallee Darn for me to be happy think would have to be at least the same as a 800 thanks for the answer appreciate it.

Theres one thing you may or may not have done on a snowmobile but this is a family oriented channel so ill leave it at that...lol

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

🙈

@2strokeme64

2 жыл бұрын

@@Levi_LaVallee have you jumped off a ski jump??

How fast can it go?

@Levi_LaVallee

9 ай бұрын

around 80mph is the top speeds we saw.

I dislike polaris for a variety of reasons but the handling n smoothness of the ride really makes up for the flaws. Im a cat rider but cats have flaws as well but the reliability and how easy it is to work on em makes up for that. I used to ride ski doo but over the years i grew to hate the brand. If you're a mechanic you'll know what im talking about. But then again there's no such thing as a junk rig in the past few years. If polaris can slow down a bit n do more testing like arctic cat has then yeah polaris would be able to fix the hiccups on the sleds like sacrificing weight for strength n focusing on the moving parts doing brutal tests then i think polaris would have the strongest most reliable ride. 560lbs is still light and easy to whip around in the powder. Its just my opinion

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

Dislike Polaris, hate Skidoo, and Arctic Cats have flaws. What about Yamaha?

@907buschmin2

Жыл бұрын

@LaVallee - i should have been more specific about the rides. I was talking about the 2stroke twin cylinder sleds. Yamaha has a perfect genesis 4stroke engine. Yamaha had the genesis 4 for a very long time but they've done many tweeks n finne tuning to make a very reliable engine. If ski doo and polaris were to team up they would definitely make an unstoppable dominating sled. Btw ski doo isn't a cheap sled its an insane sled, polaris as well. I've already said theres no junk sled all brands have made unbelievable snowmobiles for the past few years

Doncha know bobby

I'll wait till I see how long the engine last....

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Based off the same engines Polaris has in their offroad vehicles, which has helped make them #1 in the industry.

Miles per gallon ?

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

Hello. I am have not received mine S4 yet to do that video. Once I get it I will be doing a video on that topic.

Be perfect with a turbo

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

now you're speaking my language 😁

Sorry but I would have like to see at least 1 younger person who like to rip it. Just to see if the excitement is still there with this motor from a younger person perspective. If it still feels nimble and rips with the reliability of a 4 stroke

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

In this instance what do mean by "younger person" and "feels nimble and rips"?

@jessecameron7268

Жыл бұрын

@@Levi_LaVallee sorry bro, I didn't finish watching the vid. I finished and saw your perspective. Very informative, and appreciate the content! You definitely now how to rip a sled!😆

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

@@jessecameron7268 I know I'm not getting any younger but I still feel like I know how to rip. haha

Weight is everyones question. This thing is supposedly 100lbs heavier than a 2 stroke. Your gonna notice that yet hardly a mention about it except the 1 guy.

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it is heavier than a 2 stroke, like most every four-stroke is. Would it be fair to say that if it was of concern regarding how it handled, Sharron who was the smallest of the group would have noticed? If you are looking for a light feeling sled to race through the trail and ditch bang hard, this is not the engine.... Although I did give it a heck of a ditch banging rip trying to beat my nephew to my house who was on the road driving a truck. haha . For cruising the trails with a smooth, none intimidating power, this engine is perfect.

No 2 stokes I'll day everyday

You asked for what you might not have done. I don’t recall seeing a whole lot of watercross videos

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Very true! 🤠

Put a turbo on it and I will buy one next year.

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

that would be sweet!

The weight is the downside to 4 strokes.

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I would agree, but there are also many positives that come with four stroke engines. I remember when four strokes started becoming popular in dirt bikes. They were heavier but they were easy to ride. And they made big power. Now 4 strokes rule dirt bikes. snowmobiles have a much smoother power delivery in general compared to a dirt bike, and the 4 stroke makes it even smoother.

@recentlyretired

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s fifty or so pounds which isn’t much ,

00:46 ok, their slow. Got it.

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

haha As one might guess, I am a performance sled guy. But many riders ride differently than me and have no need for a sled that goes faster than 80mph. This engine is will work great for them.

@recentlyretired

Жыл бұрын

The only time you hit 80 is mostly on a lake , possibly a straight away with good visibility. I’ll take a top speed of 80 which I probably won’t hit and be able to trail ride without bringing oil and getting more miles to a tank

If this was an 8 what is a 10

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

For me personally, I prefer speed and aggressive riding so I have ridden a lot of sleds geared more towards that. Unfortunately this was the first time I experienced an under 100Hp four stroke snowmobile so it was harder for me to give it a rating due to not being able to compare it to an equivilent machine. Even though I thought the engine worked great, was very smooth, and very easy to control, I scored it a conservative 8 because of my lack of knowledge riding 4 stroke snowmobile engines.

@tomcat6933

Жыл бұрын

@@Levi_LaVallee so if you could pick any sled for free what would be your top 2 sled choices? I rode 30 years ago and thinking about getting a new sled and i don't want to make a financial mistake. I want quick, fast, trail, good suspension, comfortable to ride all day and fits a 6 foot 1 body at 175 lbs.

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

@@tomcat6933 That is very helpful to hear. I would definitely not recommend a S4 four stroke as I do not consider it quick or fast. The new sleds " rider forward" platforms are much better for taller riders than the sleds 30 years ago where you sat towards the back of the machine , which put a lot of stress on your back and put taller folks knees by the handle bars. Comfortable, fast, all day riding I would go Vr1. They are as smooth as they get on the trail and you can get a 650, 850, and turbo 850. To ball park speed from 650 to turbo - about 105 to 120+ Mph. And at 175lbs the suspension should work really well in stock form. IF you are looking for on and off trail riding I would recommend the Switchback assault 146. Works great for both on and off trail but not as smooth on trail and wheelies more than the Vr1. Another option that doesn't have all the bells and whistles that the VR1 has but is still great on the trail is the Indy XC. you can get a 650 or 850 in the XC so still very powerful. I like to jump things on my snowmobile and ride hard through bumps so I am a fan of the XCR model. Suspension is a bit stiffer so its not as comfortable on the trail in the bumps but it handles the bigger moguls and jumps better than the VR1. THere are a few different options with distinct differences, but a couple videos that may help would be - the XCR vs Vr1 and the VR1 650 first ride. tokzread.info/dash/bejne/gZidr9ifY5S6l5M.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/dKGWwbyFl7WZeM4.html Let me know if you have any other questions and hopefully I can help .

@tomcat6933

Жыл бұрын

@@Levi_LaVallee Thanks so much for the info. The VR1 sounds like a match. I like all the reviews

let's see what happens when people get 8000 miles plus. looks good time will tell

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure with proper maintenance it will run far beyond 8000 miles.

Hi

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Hello. Thanks for stopping by.

Put writers online that will actually use them for what therefore

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

Please describe your opinion of what this sled is for so i can better understand?

All polaris owners? Huh...

@ericduchesne807

2 жыл бұрын

Same thinking for me.

@Levi_LaVallee

2 жыл бұрын

Actually Dave rides an Arctic Cat. 👍🏼

i think a bunch of 600 riders would have been better. not just folks over 50....

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

Interesting. Could you help me understand your opinion ?

@PatriotBrad

Жыл бұрын

@@Levi_LaVallee toss a bunch of 30-50yo on it who ride 600s and dont tell them what s4 is. This video made it seem like its only good for those ready to retire. Im sure it is targeted toward that group but its really limiting your audience. . My wife is 33 and would prob enjoy this sled just as much as her 600 axys.

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

​@@PatriotBrad That is a great idea. When creating this video my goal was to show people how smooth the power is and how easy it is to control. The riders from the snowmobile club that helped with this video are riders that I thought would appreciate an engine like this. I have owned many 600s and 650s over the years and I believe the S4 would be great for any trail rider that is the 50-60mph top speed or less rider, that does not ride aggressively. The s4 is much mellower than 600 or 650 engines which are fast and accelerate hard if you hammer down. The 6's have become the engine for many wives due to the lack of engine options and the 600s and 650s are way more engine than what is needed for many riders. After riding the S4, I ordered a S4 for my wife and she has been driving 600s and 650s for the last few years and she is 28 now... again for the 9th time. haha

It's not a true 80 mph machine...fantasy gauge like most sleds.

Maybe add some younger people to the review for a more full review. You have a bunch of geezers that like to ride slow as shit that probably think 90 is like going plaid. lmao Personally, as a younger rider I think I'm going 2 stroke. Better performance overall than 4 strokes. I feel 2 stroke = performance and younger crowd and 4 stroke = old geezer slow riding trail crowd...lol

@Levi_LaVallee

Жыл бұрын

The S4 is in the "under 100 HP" category so it is not considered a high performance engine. With that said it is geared towards riders with less experience, riders who are looking for smooth power, and more fuel economy for longer rides with out having to fuel up as often. Yes the riders who were with me like to ride at a slow pace than some, but me on the other hand I love riding fast and aggressive. With in the video i make reference to how this is not a high performance engine and it is for a rider who is looking for smooth delivery and easy riding. Young or old , if thats what you are after, this engine is for you. If you are an aggressive rider - check these videos- kzread.info/dash/bejne/d45n05SxdJScf6g.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/fKWmk6WJltPHc7A.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/gZidr9ifY5S6l5M.html

@recentlyretired

Жыл бұрын

This machine is made for trails , this is the market they are geared towards, he mentioned it numerous times that it’s not an 850 , This sled is perfect for Trails with gas stops not every 50 miles . Why even waste your time watching a 4 stroke video when you know it’s not what you want.

@hellcatpekes8974

Жыл бұрын

@@recentlyretired Well I thought I might want a 4 stroke until I watched this video. lol This video says 4 stroke = slow. But that's kinda unfair, they can be fast.