I think the Nissan is a far better value for the price of comparable vehicles. Granted Toyota has a better resale market but I plan to drive all of the value out of mine. I have had my Frontier since October and have thoroughly enjoyed the 11k miles driven.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

Yep, I'm planning to keep mine until it falls apart, which should hopefully be quite a while (gotta offset that high cost, lol).

Watch all the time but have never commented. I bought the Tacoma in March last year if it would have been this year I also probably would have gone Nissan. You have an incredible truck!! Love it!!

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! And let's be honest, you seriously can't go wrong with the Tacoma. I love them, but I also feel like they're everywhere and I like to be different even if it's slightly to my detriment, haha.

You nailed it!!! Exactly how I felt and why I bought a 23 Pro4x

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

Great minds think alike, :D.

@MatosJr1004

6 ай бұрын

Great choice !! Congrats

I went through similar chain of thoughts, and end up with the 22 Pro-4x. For me it works great, and i understand it's not for everyone. Just like the Tacoma, great truck and value, but not for everyone. Enjoy your truck for years to come!

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

You too! Thanks!

I own a 2013 Frontier SV , now I want a new Pro4X

@AllThingsOverlanding

10 ай бұрын

The 2nd gens are nice too, but I do love the new truck too, :D.

I have had 2 tacomas and I have a 2007 tundra with 200k miles. I just got a 2023 frontier. I love this truck. I just liked it better than any of the rest available. I like naturally aspirated engines, and the drivetrain in this truck is proven. My two.

@AllThingsOverlanding

8 ай бұрын

Totally agree with you. Welcome to the Nissan fam!

I jusy purchased a 2024 pro4x red alert , leather , sun roof and all the other extras. I love it !

@AllThingsOverlanding

8 ай бұрын

Congrats!

@MatosJr1004

6 ай бұрын

Great choice !! Congrats

Still driving my OLD 07 frontier and will keep driving it, no fancy 50.k truck for me.😊

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

That's actually the smartest decision right there, haha.

@duncdunc76

Жыл бұрын

Well sadly I just had to park my 2008 Crew Cab 4X4 Frontier as it's finally blown a head gasket that I don't think I'll be able to repair. I guess since it has 416,000 miles on it I'll give it a pass. It's a little sad because I really love the truck. But on the bright side I'm now looking for another one just like it to buy with maybe 100 thou or less and I'll try to get this next one to a million miles.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

@@duncdunc76 Wow, that’s impressive! Sorry it finally gave up but the next one will be either better!

@St.Irenaeus

Жыл бұрын

@@duncdunc76 wow! 416k!? That’s incredible. I just bought a brand new 23 S trim and that makes me feel even better about this investment. Good price great truck so far. Congratulations on getting your return plus some on that! The Frontier community has been awesome so far.

I used the same logic in picking my ‘24 Frontier Pro 4X. Other than not having 4Hi Auto and needing a lift kit my Pro 4X is just right for living in Maine.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 ай бұрын

Love it!

Agree with your decision, looking at 2023 frontier now, have 2017 Tacoma, but want something a little more refined and I think Nissan can get me to that point. Even with Toyota redesign in 2016 it took the 2 years to work the bugs out.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I agree with you. I think it’s a great truck, and would serve you well.

Hey another Fletch! Stumbled on your channel. I had a lifted 08 xterra off road 6 speed manual I absolutely loved but sold. Now I have a 2021 Titan pro 4x with the icon kit. I look forward to following your channel Fletch!

@AllThingsOverlanding

11 ай бұрын

FLETCH’s UNITE! Haha, welcome man! Congrats on the Titan. Those things are sweet. Happy to have another Fletcher as a subscriber!

I’ve been a mechanic for over 20 years I worked service at Nissan and I’ve worked on Nissan and Toyota for many years before working at Nissan dealerships. Nissan has generally made a tougher engine and drive train, better paint quality and protection from rust than Toyota. So I really wish people would stop continuing the roomer that Toyota is so reliable and Nissan is questionable. Nissan makes some of the longest lasting vehicles on road. My current I’ve had 22 years a 2001 Xterra 3.3L v6 I have 436k miles on it. It’s never broken down on us. So stop the questions about Nissan reliability. People who’ve owned them know. I had many come into the shop with over 300k on original engine and transmission.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 ай бұрын

Love to hear this. I got my first Nissan back in 2003 and since then I've probably had 12 or 13 others and they've all be essentially bullet proof with very little if anything in the way of issues. That's part of why I stuck with the new Frontier over the other competitors is that they're keeping it simple and reliable.

@MatosJr1004

6 ай бұрын

So great to hear that especially from you, the expert mechanic !! Great information !! Thanks

Thanks so much for that great review and very helpful advice and information !! I am really happy with the purchase of my 2022 Nissan Frontier SV Premium last year !!

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Great video, all the things you talked about is why I am picking up a brand new 4X this weekend.

@AllThingsOverlanding

5 ай бұрын

Nice, congrats! There are a bunch of other vids on my channel talking through my thoughts on the truck now that I've owned it for about 7 months and about 12K miles too if it helps! Enjoy your truck! They're great.

I just picked up a 23 Frontier Pro-4x with 7k off msrp, unlikely I would get that with the new Tacoma which already has a higher msrp. So far happy with the purchase.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 ай бұрын

Sounds like you got a great deal! My timing was during the "we don't really come off MSRP and you don't have any options for colors" period earlier in 2023, haha. Congrats on the truck!

@MatosJr1004

6 ай бұрын

Great choice !! Congrats

I would take the Frontier for its normally aspirated V6. It's also a solid truck with a terrific design. Kudos to Nissan.

@AllThingsOverlanding

11 ай бұрын

Agreed!

@MatosJr1004

6 ай бұрын

💯👍🏼

The rims being premium are very Cheesy , Fake Beadlocks Ill pass on that I don't do Fake anything , I test drove it and its actually really solid I really liked it but I ended up going with a Canyon AT4X still waiting for it to come, I wanted more Tech and a front Locker along with more clearance. I find myself off road allot and the side steps are also a NO NO if you want to be more serious off road they interfere with clearance I would rather a slider , Its a nice truck until you actually think about it and do your homework unless your just branded Nissan , also the cutouts at the front tires are Painted opposed to the cutouts on the ZR2/Canyon they are black plastic not painted , I feel like your just asking for it with the Frontier with the cutouts being painted like that. I like the analog gauge cluster but the info screen in the middle is to small , I also prefer physical buttons, I did notice the steering was not normal to me but I didn't put to much thought into what was bothering me about it , I think you would get used to it I wouldn't say its horrible but that its just different. I think Nissan will have a tough time when the 24 Tacos, 24 Colorado/canyons, 24 Rangers are all out in force but for now you can go the a Nissan dealer and get one, they have 4 on the lot near me. It did seem to me that I had a feeling that the truck needed an update but then you realize its a new truck.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

Agreed on the fake beadlocks. Those are dumb. I definitely think that when the new Taco and Colorado come out, Nissan'll lose some market share. I bought the Nissan because it was about $5-7K less than a TRD Pro Tacoma and I'm sure the 2024's will be highly in demand, meaning mark ups and scarcity of availability. I've had a couple of Chevy's in my life and I think the new Colorado's are cool, but after all the serious issues I had with my Chevy's and all the people I know with Chevy's with serious engine, transmission, and other problems, I would lease one, but I wouldn't buy one. I bought the Nissan because I plan to keep it for 10-12 years with minimal maintenance. I knew from the start it would take a little suspension lift, some bigger tires, and some small mods to get it where I want it, but I favored the reliability over the OEM mods in exchange for some modification. But that's just me! Doesn't mean it's the only way.

I have a 2020 ranger and love the truck I am building it out for overlanding now. I do agree with you on the simple side though with new models and all the new tech you are taking a chance with new problems, I was looking at the new Tacoma and new ranger raptor but there is a lot of tech that could go wrong when your out on the trail.

@AllThingsOverlanding

11 ай бұрын

I do love simple. Just got back from a two week trip to Wyoming to run their backcountry discovery route, and there was a newer ranger with us the did great!

I’m a Nissan fan, as far as trucks go I’m a full size Ford guy but I’ve been looking at the new Frontier a lot. If I was buying today it would absolutely be the Frontier. Don’t want any of the turbo charged 4cyl.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. I’m just finishing up a 2 week trip through the Wyoming backcountry discovery route and it’s performed great and taken everything it had to throw at it!

My '23 Nissan Pro 4X (in Canada) at the very least has hood struts. And full LED lighting. These 2 items are not even available on the new '23 top trim Canyon Denali (rear brake lamps incandescent only). Loving it so far.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

Huh, good points! I'm also loving the hood struts. I added them to my 2nd gen, but it's really nice that it comes stock on the new trucks. The LED lighting is also a big step up from the 2nd gen lights. Congrats on your truck!

We had started an Overland Flatbed Expedition Build on our F350 V10 right before covid. When gas prices rocketed we switched direction. We started looking at the mid size market. The used Nissan Frontier Pro-4x was our first choice based on bang for your buck. As much as our mechanic insisted we look at other options. We had never considered the Ford Ranger until spoke with an owner who loved his. Before I knew it I was on the hunt. We choose the Ranger (2019 FX4) over other trucks because it has the highest, towing, payload, mpg and head room (over all ergonomically more space). As a work truck/Overland Rig this was the best choice for our build. The 2.3 turbo engine is a complete blast to drive. Congratulations on the 2023 Frontier. Great to see you staying with a truck which definitely offers a lot more then the dated 2024 Toyota Tacoma. Like you said a simple but large V6 should be a safe and long term power house. If I could do it all again today and money was no object. 2024 Ford Ranger RAPTOR. 😊 Mark (& Teresa) Hampstead Maryland Ford Ranger - GFC Camper V2 #1919

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

The Ranger Raptor does look pretty sweet!

@OutOfOfficeCamping

Жыл бұрын

@@AllThingsOverlanding 😁

Man this video was a huge help. I did so so so so much research on what my next truck was going to be. Let me just say it's been a journey, my family and I have primarily always been Subaru and Toyota people. The Taco just doesn't seem like what I really want to be in. I currently drive a 2010 Tundra, (found out later way too big for my liking). Up to this point I had narrowed it down to Maverick and Frontier. Now that I know a bit more about the Ford engine issues this video just reinforces the idea the Frontier just looks like my next purchase. So thank you. The only thing that gives me pause is the fact that I probably will never go off-roading or overlanding. I mean I would love to, but not a reality. This is why I thought about the Maverick, plenty of truck for the day to day and the occasional tow and haul. At the end of the day it comes down to what I really like the look and feel of, I can't wait to test drive this Frontier. Hopefully I can get in one. Dealerships around me are offering them below MSRP, fingers crossed.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

So glad it was helpful! I actually had a Maverick on order for over a year and by the time it finally came, I had read a lot of horror stories online and decided for a few bucks more, the Frontier was really what I wanted (plus I'm a Nissan person, so that made the most sense to me). I still think the Mavericks are great trucks and they'll definitely beat out the Frontier from a fuel efficiency standpoint, but my concern is spending this much money on something that I plan to keep for 10+ years. I've always had really good experiences with my Nissans and had and heard some not so great stories of Ford. Again, no knocks there as there are tons of people putting hundreds of thousands of miles on them, but in my opinion, you're more likely to get more miles out of a Nissan with less maintenance and/or issues. Whatever you end up with, I'm sure you'll love it. Good luck!

@jnilz4655

Жыл бұрын

@@AllThingsOverlanding I agree 100%. I would love to hear your thoughts on the new Taco, now that it has been announced.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

@@jnilz4655 Honestly, I really like it. I think it's great looking and I like that manufacturers are moving more towards giving us pre-built out vehicles that you can buy and take overlanding without modification just from an ease and reliability stand point. I also really like the idea of a hybrid powertrain as it just gives us more range to get out and explore. I only see 3 downsides: the turbo 4 worries me from a reliability and maintenance standpoint, the price, and the fact that EVERYONE will buy one, haha.

Love my 22 pro x

@AllThingsOverlanding

9 ай бұрын

Nice! Congrats on the truck!

The actual release date of the new Tacoma info is this Tuesday the 16th. So we should see a whole lot more photos and information. Good video Fletch!

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

Should be interesting to see what happens!

@jnilz4655

Жыл бұрын

@@AllThingsOverlanding I don't like the new styling of the 2024 Tacoma. But I have to admit the tech and interior is pretty solid. But probably so much $$$.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

@@jnilz4655 Yeah, I imagine it's gonna be pretty expensive for a Trailhunter edition. They are pretty rad, but I'm plenty happy with my Nissan and it's also nice having something that not everyone and their brother has, :D.

I really like the Nissan thank you for sharing my brother

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

No problem!

My 2004 Ford Ranger 2.3L 5MT has been the best truck I’ve owned overall. I’ve owned roughly 30 trucks including a Frontier. I think the new Frontier should have gotten better fuel economy for being a 9 speed. I honestly prefer the Titan and I can get better deals on those since they don’t sell for crap.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

Not a bad point that the Titan is kind of a steal right now. If I'd wanted a full size, it would have been a great option! I've been averaging about 19.5 MPG with almost exclusively city driving recently in the truck which isn't amazing, but I'm happy with it.

You do speak the truth. If I was to get a truck with a turbo motor, I would buy a lifetime powertrain warranty for that truck. Not everyone has money & trucks are getting expensive along with everything else. Not a bad decision at all.

@AllThingsOverlanding

10 ай бұрын

Appreciate it!

Frontier still looks better, reliable and simple.

@AllThingsOverlanding

9 ай бұрын

Agreed

Great video, cant argue with the Nissan being better when you compare those. PS. RIP to my forgotten Gladiator.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

Welcome back man! Hop in the Discord and chat with me, haha.

I currently own a 2019 4Runner that is lifted and great off-road. I want a mid-size pickup for a daily commuter and weekend overlander. I was going to go with the Taco, then discovered the Frontier. Loved Nissans back in the 90's, but they turned to crap. Hearing good things about the 3rd gen Frontier, and would pick one over the Tacoma. But then the 2024 Tacoma was announced. I get 16 mpg with the 4Runner and not enough power on 33's. Was hoping to go up to 20 mpg with a Tacoma/Frontier with a canopy on the back for my dog, and a bed organizer. My number one concern is reliability. Does the new Frontier deliver??

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

I mean, call me biased, but I've had an 05 Xterra, an 08 Frontier, and now the 2023 and they've all been pretty great to me. I've had some problems with my 08 but all the problems stem from the previous owner doing the timing chain guides wrong, which caused a number of problems with the cats, injectors, etc. Other than that though, they're pretty bullet proof and if buying used, you can get a steal on a Frontier versus a used Tacoma. I keep buying them and I'm pretty easy to piss off, regarding vehicle reliability so I'd say they're pretty good for the money.

I've never had anything except Chevy's. I have a 90 four-wheel drive Chevy full size that has been the best vehicle I've ever owned and it had over 500k miles with no major issues. But I'm going to get a new frontier because it's the only mid-size besides the gladiator that has the NA engine. All of the four-cylinder turbos are going to have problems, including the toyota. I've never liked the looks of the Toyota tacomas and the new one is no exception. In spite of a lot of the reviewers saying the frontier already looks dated, I think it's a great design. I also looked at the gladiator but they're too expensive and I'm not crazy about them. I never thought I would own a Nissan but it's about to be true and I'm looking forward to it

@AllThingsOverlanding

8 ай бұрын

Totally agree with you on the longevity of the NA 6 and the looks of the Frontier. I personally look back at it every time I leave it in a parking lot. I think it's a great looking truck.

Is it possible to upgrade the cameras for better quality picture?

@AllThingsOverlanding

3 ай бұрын

Not that I know of at this time, but I'm sure people will likely come out with some stuff.

Is the Chevy Colorado still built on the Isuzu mighty max platform since General Motors owns majority share of Isuzu

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

Not sure, but that's a good question for the GM folks who see this, haha.

Just made the same decision you did. Colorado is cool, wasn't sure about long term reliability with the 2.7 turbo. Think of the engine reliability in 10 years. And the Tacoma may be cool, but availability will be slim, for at least 6 months, maybe even a year, judging by tundra availability. And same as Colorado, no discounts Available, I'm sure. But... But... Got a pretty good deal on a pro4x, 39k before TTL. Love my pro4x Soo far. Got the all dogs fox 2.5" lift kit on order and falkens 255/80r17 on stock rims.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

Love it! And you’re right about availability on those Tacomas. They’ll be hard to get for a while. Enjoy your truck!

@lespaulguitarist92

Жыл бұрын

except when the tacoma do become readily avaliable.. you would be wishing you waited or tempted to trade in your frontier in for a tacoma.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

@@lespaulguitarist92 I think I’ll be fine with my frontier. It’ll be a while until the Tacomas are readily available without markups and even longer until we know how reliable those turbo 4’s are. Umm sure they’ll be nice though, but I’ll have had mine for a few years and it will be nicely modded so I’m sure I’ll be fine. 😀

@lespaulguitarist92

Жыл бұрын

@@AllThingsOverlanding it just sadden me that the new generation frontier just came out and it's already outdated when comparing to it's competitors next gen. and we all know that nissan won't update their vehicle lineup for another decade and half or two.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

@@lespaulguitarist92 I get that. I honestly like that it’s just a truck. I don’t buy a truck to have a luxury vehicle. I like the simplicity of the V6 and the new design. Looking forward to running it for many years.

The only knock on the Frontier that I have atm is the way the steering is, it makes it so you cannot have lane keep assist. I really love that feature that my Honda Pilot has for freeway driving.

@AllThingsOverlanding

3 ай бұрын

I've heard a few people complain about the steering. I personally haven't had any trouble with it and my wife does have a Honda Pilot, so I dfeinitely know what you mean by the steering being a big heavier and less augmented, but never had any problems driving the truck or staying in a lane.

@Mahaffeytattoo-ux2ro

3 ай бұрын

It’s not the heavier steering that concerns me, it’s the lack of lane assist that would be a knock for me. Definitely not a deal breaker considering most long trips we use the Pilot.

@AllThingsOverlanding

3 ай бұрын

@@Mahaffeytattoo-ux2ro Ahh, got it. I’m used to older Nissan trucks so this thing has more features than I feel like I need or want already, haha.

@Mahaffeytattoo-ux2ro

3 ай бұрын

True. I probably only use half of the modern features on our pilot. Considering my last truck was a long bed no cab, f150 from 1995, the Frontier is going to feel like a truck from the future to me.

all the same reasons i had when i bought mine in feb. I seen all of these other trucks. even the new taco i seen some pre images of in march. the tacos are nice i drove one for a few weeks from the local rental place. It was not comfortable to me. the sticker is way over priced yea they hold there value i agree. But you get the same value in the nissan, for quite a bit less. So far i have towed a 16 foot flat bed loaded with steel close to cap of the trailer. I could not even tell it was behind me. This frontier tows as well as the 2018 chevy 1500 i traded in for it. The chevy was factory lifted procomp with over loads and magna ride in the front. it was a nice Truck. it spent more time in the shop then in my drive way.. at one point they dealer had it 9 months trying to get a rear bearing for it in 22 i put over 7k mileage on the loaner lol. Any ways if you have any considerations i would say do what i did go rent one and drive it a few days you will know soon after that if you like it. Cheers.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you. I plan to keep mine forever too, so I'm confident that the Nissan will hold up really well and with the extra savings, I get a bit of a value on it versus the other options. Enjoy your Nissan!

During COVID, I bought a 2019 PRO-4X in April of 2020 for around $30K - the truck deal of a lifetime! The Ford 4 cyl. eco-bost is only direct injected which leads to carbon build-up and poor engine design has led to head gasket problems. Ford also has had valve failures in their V6's. The best MPG from a Frontier was the 2020 model (spring of 2020) - the new power-train with the old, more aerodynamic body style. Toyota Tacoma frames have to be reinforced to put 35's on them and their rear differential isn't as stout as the Dana 44 on the Pro-4X. Rear disk brakes are another + for the Nissan. Speculation is that all these discrepancies will be addressed in the next gen Tacoma

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

Should be interesting to see the new Tacoma for sure. If it's like that "leaked" picture, it's gonna be a great looking truck and if they update everything, it'll be a heck of a contender.

@onefastcyclist

Жыл бұрын

@@AllThingsOverlanding Yes it would be, and Toyota is going after Ford's little truck With revival of the Scout and Ford's already updated the maverick next year. So things will get interesting soon. Hopefully, your build will be ready soon as well. Any decision on the lift?

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

@@onefastcyclist I'm leaning towards the RC Killa lift from All Dogs Offroad. With the newness of the truck and already having the Bilsteins on it, I feel kind of silly revamping/replacing the full suspension. Still don't want to go with a spacer lift, so I'm feeling like the RC Killa is a good middle ground that takes advantage of some of the good stuff I already have while getting me lifted a bit. Then in a few years when stuff starts to wear out, I'll look at their Fox, full replacement, long travel option probably as an upgrade/replacement.

@onefastcyclist

Жыл бұрын

@@AllThingsOverlanding A 2" lift is really the sweet spot in these trucks and even upgraded tires like 265/75r16 BFG KO2's or General Grabbers (E load rated) only weigh about 53lbs.(The stock Hankook's are good till you put a rock through them). I moved my spare to the bed for ease of access. Add a leafs very, but usually they last about a year with hard off-road use before the over-stressed stock springs begin to sag - hopefully, you'll have better luck. The factory 4600 shocks should last that long too.The next set should include a full rear spring pack. Cooler/light tent Over-land guys can get away with level trucks; Refrigerator/ generator guys can't.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

@@onefastcyclist Totally agree. Looking forward to seeing how it all holds up!

The new Colorado does not offer a diesel engine. You can only get it with crew cab (extended cab not available, which is a deal breaker for me). I'll also pick a NA V6 over a turbo engine any day of the week. My '97 S10 with the V6 has alot of torque low in the RPM band. Perfect truck engine, with decent fuel economy.

@AllThingsOverlanding

10 ай бұрын

Agreed.

I will say one thing about Ford as a former motorsports engineer Ford knows how to make power and they know how to do it cheaply at the cost of rushing something to market that isn’t fully R&D Done and then they fix it with recalls however it surprises me that the bronco sport and the maverick are having any problems as they are based on the European focus Platform and drivetrain which is tried and true in Europe.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

For sure. The Explorer ST, the Focus RS, lots of examples of their FI engines making power with tons of potential. I think they have some exciting options out there. I waited for over a year for my Maverick order to come to fruition and during that time, I was on all the FB groups for Maverick owners and saw a ton of problems with them. Of course, you get that in any of those groups so while there may have been numerous problems, there were also even more people who didn't experience them. The way I've always looked at it is a percentage game. I've just always had good luck with Nissans and, anecdotally, had bad luck with most of the domestics I've owned. Then there are friends and neighbors who've had euros and other domestics and you just see and hear of issues with those more often than you do with the Japanese makes and over time, that has created a definite influence on what I buy (especially to keep). Now, if I was leasing this vehicle, I'd probably have had a lot harder time choosing. :D

The Nissan 3.8 v6 has been around a while and has a proven reliability record. The problems with the GM 2.7 turbo are well known. This is one reason I am reluctant to purchase a vehicle with this engine. For some reason GM seems unwilling or unable to fix these problems.....

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.

im just nervous with those engines the 2.7s... with the turbo... the V6 is proven to work for a long time. and i dont know much about those 2.7s

@AllThingsOverlanding

11 ай бұрын

Right, my thoughts too.

Crawl ratio 60:1 fully boxed frame Dana 44 locking rear (pro 4X) Dana front diff, Spicer transfer case, powerful VQ engine, rear disc brakes, bullet proof made in the good ol' USA. Tacoma=33:1 crawl ratio, C frame (with on going frame recalls due to corrosion) rear drum brakes, now made in Mexico, reliability declining and Toyota tax.

@AllThingsOverlanding

5 ай бұрын

Great points!

With the caveat that I’m not a pick up person if my research end of the industry is correct the new Ranger is the first time we’ve gotten the European ranger which is a far more capable vehicle than what we had previously in the USA it also under pings the bronco so hopefully technology will pass through.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

It'll definitely be interesting to see how they redo the Ranger. That new Ranger Raptor is pretty awesome, but pricey.

If the Ram and F150 had a kid it would be the frontier. Both Toyota and Nissan took Rams design and the Nissan has a little Ford look to it.

@AllThingsOverlanding

4 ай бұрын

I think I see some of that.

I was the same, a big Chevy fan but wad always having to fix the same issues specially on my moms malibu 2000. Was looking for my first truck so i tired out my cousin's Tacoma. Was pretty meh yo me didn't like the sitting position then also everyone had one. Then i was thinking giving the frontier a try and before I was a in the majority of people ooh tacoma this amd that lol brain rot. Then i gave it a chance and was surprised by the performance. It was a se 2008 2wd already high mileage when i got it beaten up and i beat it up even more 😂 taking it off road with the boys and it lasted 3yrs because a car accident. It was my fault so can't avoid it then after that i got another frontier this time 2015 sv with 4wd and beat the hell out of it but i take care of it still, keeping it clean.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

They’re great trucks for the money! Enjoy it!

I would love To have a newer truck but the prices are way up there now. I will just continue to modify my 2010 Chevy Colorado Z71 with the 5.3. The only thing I have had to replace on it was a starter. It also has similar HP numbers to the outgoing generations of midsize trucks. With a cam and valve Springs it will be over The HP numbers of the newer gen trucks and close on torque. I know the interior is crap but it’s GM. The truck is paid for and gets 20mpg on the high way. As much as I love the new trucks coming out they are just not doable for me.

@AllThingsOverlanding

11 ай бұрын

Makes total sense to me!

I looked at the 2023 frontier, the one you bought is like $42,000 total. More expensive than the Tacoma. I have 2002 4wd xterra

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

Xterras are great. If you look at an optioned out Tacoma (new) that is comparable to the Frontier, it's actually a few grand more expensive. Depends on what you consider "comparable" I suppose, but basically a TRD Pro in my opinion. If you went TRD Offroad without skids or LED headlights, you're right, it's around $37K but you're giving up quite a bit over the Frontier. If you go TRD Pro, they start at $47K. Mainly though, I'm just a Nissan person and I think the current gen Tacomas, while great trucks, are boring and outdated. The new 2024 looks interesting but by the time it's actually readily available, it'll be a couple of years and for a while, they'll be asking over MSRP. Who knows though, just depends on what you want!

@chrisx5127

6 ай бұрын

@@AllThingsOverlanding Taco have manual though.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 ай бұрын

@@chrisx5127 True.

Isnt ford setting records for recalls? Used to love fords...will never buy a ford (maybe a mustang) or chevy ever again. Pro4x is pulling ahead of taco for me. Wish it had the manual tranny tho.

@AllThingsOverlanding

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, I've got some friends with Fords and they've had quite a few issues with them. I do miss the manual transmission, but the 9 speed in these is pretty nice too.

You didn't mention Subarus... ?? :)

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

Sorry bro. But they're a different beast. I actually did think a bit about those, but for future modifiability and body on frame, I had to go trucks, :D.

No Jeep Gladiator love?

@AllThingsOverlanding

Жыл бұрын

I know so many people with Gladiators that it wasn’t even a consideration for me. Nothing against them! They’re great but I didn’t want a Jeep this go around.

Toyota seems to overbilled everything, I have no hesitation about the 24 taco

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 ай бұрын

I’m sure it’ll be a good truck but even Toyotas have issues especially the first production year of a new vehicle.

i just purchased a 2023 pro4x with tech. package. my question is. Is it worth it to get an extended warranty?

@AllThingsOverlanding

8 ай бұрын

Honestly, that's totally up to you. I didn't purchase one because I plan to modify the vehicle pretty heavily and figured they would use anything to get out of paying for potential warranty repairs. I'm also hopeful/somewhat confident that if anything is going to go wrong, it's going to happen within the first few years. Almost 11K miles now and no problems so far. If you aren't at all mechanically inclined and aren't planning to modify the vehicle, it might make sense to get the extended warranty, but I just plan to deal with anything that comes up on my own, if I ever even have any problems. These trucks are pretty basic and easy to work on.

@obetskinola4325

8 ай бұрын

@@AllThingsOverlanding thank you.