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God I love being a Texans fan in hindsight 😂
@pre-jordanbasketballfan7429
2 ай бұрын
Drafted CJ in ny dynasty league and I am so happy I ignored this
Always appreciate the candidness and blunt honesty with your assessments not only with the players but the programs and your own biases.
Much to my dismay, JT was spot on about Zach Wilson when almost everyone had him as a can’t miss, JT kept saying “I just don’t get it”.
@tracys2354
Жыл бұрын
He was not impressed with last year's QB class draft and he was spot on with only one picked in the first and none in the second.
@jamesmt95
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I went back and watched the 2021 rankings and he never said "I just don't get it" when talking through Zach's final evaluation. He mentioned that the group of four QBs were very good and an important part of all of it was what organization/situation they were drafted into. He mentioned that he was an excellent thrower of the football and had great upper body but wasn't sure what happened from 2019 to 2021 and was also worried about going from a small school to the NFL where everyone's faster and windows close quicker. He mentioned it would be a really tough decision if he was a GM to pass on Zach Wilson but he liked Trey Lance better. Logically, it makes sense why Zach Wilson would go over Trey Lance. Two small school quarterbacks compared side by side one at an even smaller school than the other and had even less game time than the other. Zach Wilson played two and a half seasons at the FBS level. Trey Lance spent one season as a freshman playing at an FCS school. His arm talent was also not as good as Zach Wilson's. If you're faced with the option of picking between those two because we know that Justin Fields was not as desirable as people were hyping him up to be then you're going to bet on the player who has at least more film and a higher ceiling arm talent wise than the other. Zach Wilson also produced on the ground, not to the same extent that tray Lance did, but all things considered you would rather take someone with superior arm talent and adequate rushing over someone with adequate arm talent and superior rushing.
@nyfanjan8635
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesmt95 Oh but he did, he also did a few Zach Wilson vids and was the first one that I saw that pointed out that Zach misses some of those easy throws to the flat.
@eugenepoon
Жыл бұрын
He also thought Justin Herbert was a 3rd rounder or something Throw enough darts and you'll hit the bullseye
@JPaw-ud5pk
Жыл бұрын
He had ZW as QB 3 so I'm not sure what you are talking about. He liked Zach Wilson just not as much as fields or Lawrence
Enjoyed your breakdowns. Thank You.
Great content!
I appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us. Seriously, I benefit greatly from your presentation style and your demystifying of the game. I would like to get into coaching recievers, but I've never played an actual game of football before. Do you have any advice on where I should maybe start?
My first year watching and so far I love it
Let’s go been waiting on this
This is the video that we have been waiting on
Great rankings. We're of a similar mind about most of these guys, not just the order, but about the characteristics of each of them even more than the order.
Thoughts on Aidan O’Connell from Purdue?
Great Video JT
Hey, I went back to last year, and you had Purdy listed! Good on ya, one of the few back then 🎉
I have 1.01 and 1.04 picks in my 2qb dynasty league so this video is SUPER helpful thanks.
Thank you JT!
Love the video and love the rankings. Another idea for a rankings video is where do these guys stack up to previous years qbs. Tlaw, Bryce, stroud, Pickett? I think it’s good to give perspective on previous years 👍
JT just brings it - gives a true assessment- this is true content for real football fans!
@unction1
Жыл бұрын
IT's hogwash at best. Anthony richardson at #3 ? come on man, he's a 50/50 passer and that's where he's gonna stay. I don't know anyone that would put a QB that can't hit the broad side of a barn at the top of the draft. EXCEPT media "analysts" like this dude. NOT a good assessment and time will prove ME right not this guy.
@BasedBurrr
Жыл бұрын
@@unction1 and who tf are you?
@unction1
Жыл бұрын
@@BasedBurrr who tf are you?
Thanks
I was so excited when I saw this, I’ve been waiting for it from someone who truly knows and can EXPLAIN reasoning. Plus not a big fan of Fresno but Jake Haener is pretty legit.
Lol i had the same comp for Stetson Bennett. I think I mentioned in ur vid on him that i was a UT fan and their body language seemed similar to me
I’d love to see you talk more about Clayton Tune! He’s my QB6 in this class
@kivsto8130
Жыл бұрын
Do you have haener #5?
JT you should do breakdowns of yourself back when you were in the league i feel like that’s a good idea
@TheQBSchool
Жыл бұрын
Have
Loving that Young's ability to process information along with his ability to react to that information correctly has him above the next three QBs, all of whom have significantly better physical tools than Young does.
@unc54
Жыл бұрын
I don't think Stroud has significantly better physical tools than Young. He has a better frame and his arm is a little stronger but that's it. Running ability Young is better because he's more twitchy and nimble.
@jessejordache1869
Жыл бұрын
That's it exactly. Sometimes Young's ability to read the field has him taking off, but he's not a "running quarterback"; he's a quarterback who sees in an instant what most people might get after perusing the all-22 for a few minutes. He takes advantage of the smallest throwing windows for his body and his target.
@TheRBReaper
Жыл бұрын
Bryce Young plays the position like Joe Burrow. Escapes to throw down field. A little more athletic but also a lot smaller. Who knows if his body can hold up to the nfl but he seems like a star if he does.
@louielogicsxxx3669
Жыл бұрын
Did you watch Alabama last two years? Most the time dude had zero pressure…I hope he can make reads when he is standing there by himself
@TheRBReaper
Жыл бұрын
@@louielogicsxxx3669 I think you mean Ohio state
For the split of Young and Stroud to come down to a summer throwing session is particularly interesting because the opposite outcome has been reported ad nauseam. Always great to get your perspective J.T.
@tvtda1
Жыл бұрын
The funny thing about this is, i say these two have tied because of two elite 11 weeks, it needs to be said that in the competitive initial elite 11 week Stroud showed up as an underdog not originally invited and not on anybody's radar and he dominated the week and Won MVP over Bryce, putting him on the map to begin with. You go to the camp a year later as counselors, noted even that week CJ had really good moments. Bryce edged him, and so in my mind head to head their tied. so it depends how you look at that. both have wins over Georgia, dominant showings over Georgia btw and Georgia had more success the more comfortable they got against Bryce. They got 2 shots at BY and i'd be curious how it'd go if they were more dialed in for a rematch with Stroud. also interesting note if you go to the manning camp Levis and AR had predominant Buzz leaving there over both CJ and BY, and Payton manning wasn't really too impressed with Bryce that week. but again depends on how you wanna view those environments in the grand scheme of the entire evaluation. CJ broke out at the youngest age, and he's been the most prolific over 2 years but then you watch the film then everyone is split again. Everything considered it still feels tied.
@bg693
Жыл бұрын
The opposite outcome is based on recent throwing and not something from before this past college season. He’s talking about summer of 2022.
@alfonsogayman9699
Жыл бұрын
@@tvtda1 Bryce Beat GA and Stroud did not
@tvtda1
Жыл бұрын
@@alfonsogayman9699 no one should really be using this as a counter to his perfect passer rating vs Georgia, they operate believing their kicker will close that game out.
@tvtda1
Жыл бұрын
@@bg693 well 2019 is an officially evaluated, intensive weeklong competitive environment compared to 2022. notice whose coming up big in the biggest lights, it isn't BY. anyone arguing otherwise is being disingenuous. anyone trying to pull this in Bryce's favor really wants to stretch BY's 47 and 7, over CJ's 44 and 6, int to TD ratio their freshman year. it's pointless and if you do it with context you need to acknowledge Jamo and Metchie's existence, which then over a two year period would even the debate up. given Strouds far superior statistical 2nd season and overall officially more dominant statistical career. make it easy, its just 1A. and 1B. with these two if they aren't 2 and 3 respectively because we can go at it all day from different perspectives.
Another great one JT. Curious what you think about QB development sitting vs starting. For QBs like Anthony Richardson, is it better for their development to sit and learn or to get on the field? Everyone says he needs to sit for a year like Mahomes did. And a lot of people say you can ruin a QB's confidence by playing them too early. But I've heard some QBs (like Eli Manning) say they learned way more from a year starting than they could have sitting. What do you think?
@michaelahurt
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't it depend? Eli was a pretty polished QB. For him or a guy like Trevor or Dak they just needed reps because they have the requisite skills to succeed. Mahomes by his own admission didn't know how to take a snap or identify the Mike. That's an extreme example but most guys need to work on themselves and develop supplementary skills in some way. Footwork, understanding coverage, mechanics, maturity, etc. Destroying a QB's confidence depends on the person. You really don't know until it's too late. Troy Aikman was fine. Joey Harrington and David Carr were put in similarly bad situations (albeit over multiple years) and it changed how they played. Ryan Leaf didn't know how to handle adversity and spiraled. I think the general rule is you don't want to give people more than they can handle but obviously that's different for everyone so it's just about evaluating the person and situation and trying to make the best decision and have honest communication.
Ahhh yes, one of the best videos of the year
It's not about height. CJ has a better arm. Is a traditional pocket passer. That is still a thing and also the height.
I think clayton tune can be a steal in the late rounds as a solid backup
"A quarterback's best ability is his availability"--Bud Grant
@billytheweasel
Жыл бұрын
Running QB’s get injured.
@dabomb2125
Жыл бұрын
Love Bud it's sad he passed away
@alexanderfehr2047
Жыл бұрын
Zach Wilson’s best ability is unavailability. BOOM! GOT ‘EM!
@Noodlezoop
Жыл бұрын
@@billytheweasel ALL* qbs get hurt
@LprogressivesANDliberals
Жыл бұрын
Skol rip 🟣🟡
Exactly why analyzing players throughout their college career is important. Summer of 2022 was a while time ago. How are Bryce and CJ throwing in comparison now? CJ to most are better which shows his growth and development. What would you say Bryce has improved on since his Heisman year?
Any thoughts on Jaren Hall from BYU?
How much does age plays apart in ranking QBs coming out of college?
Tyson Bagent should be included as well as Aiden O'Connell Purdue
I think youre spot on about Will levis. As a UK fan, he has a cannon for an arm. But zero touch on the ball. He would throw to hard on short routes. Our OC last season had to complicated scheme for college and got fired.
So the guy who study film didn’t care about the Film when it came to Young and Stroud maybe the Panthers did the same 😂😂😂
Max Duggan hadn’t ever worked with a private QB coach, I think he will look a little better once he has a few off seasons, I think he’ll certainly be a high level QB2
Didn't Stroud win elite 11 over Bryce? Just wonder if you saw them before the two years at OSU or after, because Stroud came along way as a passer since his first start against Minnesota. Love you're film break downs and thanks for everything you do! Will there be anymore Stroud videos coming? A lot more of the other QB's on the channel in comparison.
@TheQBSchool
Жыл бұрын
22 summer
@bryanlutz7950
Жыл бұрын
@@TheQBSchool Good to know! Thanks for what you do!
@YellowDogAnimations
Жыл бұрын
@@TheQBSchool non popular opinion I think duggan and Bennett are the best two in this draft I hope they get a serious chance to start. I want duggan on my cowboys
@Harbkuwsvjrefyukndsaxcbnjtewd
Жыл бұрын
@@YellowDogAnimationsit’s not popular for a reason you’re just wrong
I'm getting more and more comfortable with the Vikings taking Hooker at #23. I'd prefer to trade back first and get him later in the 1st but I'd be ok if at #23 outright.
I been wondering Who was after Hooker the next to get drafted. Thompson (ucla) seemed like it could be a possibility.
@louielogicsxxx3669
Жыл бұрын
He could go before Hooker and Levis honestly
I hope Chris Ballard is watching this. To me, that means figuring out some possible way to work out getting Bryce or move up to 3 for AR
@paulyd9634
Жыл бұрын
Chris Ballard should be unemployed!
@vaudou_
Жыл бұрын
Didn't have to do either. He had an excellent draft
Kyle Shanahat doppelganger is back!
I’ve lived in Ky. 62 yrs. saw all of Levis games. Inaccurate, 23 ints. in 2 years, fumbled twice inside the red zone against Ole Miss on the last 2 possessions and both times were in FG range down by 3. Can’t negotiate a pocket to avoid the rush so he gets sacked a lot, refuses to run for first downs, makes many bad decisions, doesn’t possess the intangibles that all good QBs have.
J.T., while I agree with your on the field analysis, I think Max Duggan is the best leader in this class. I'm in the TCU area, and have been on campus. He knows how to handle carrying a city. I think he's a backup, but I also think he's a guy you want in the locker room. (Plus I think he'll improve since he's never had a proper lesson on how to throw the football until starting the NFL draft process.)
@Mystic_man727
Жыл бұрын
Have you seen the others lead their locker room? Haha…everyone loves their QB😅
Hey JT, you say you were "severely limited" arm wise, what do you mean by that exactly? Is it the velocity that can be put on the ball, or the pure distance? How far could you throw at max?
@TheQBSchool
Жыл бұрын
Compared to the massive rifle arms I. The league yes. My arm was fine. I never went out and measured distance. I threw a ball in a college game over 65.
@oldtownscouts3712
Жыл бұрын
@@TheQBSchool thanks for the response! But damn, I was a qb in high school but I was never able to throw it further than 55 yards. Crazy to me how far some of the top guys can sling it
DTR ⚜️🙏🏽
When it comes to day three quarterback picks, some NFL team might pick Purdue's QB Aidan O'Connell in the upcoming NFL Draft.
Clayton tune meets all the stat thresholds and has some athleticism but no one has great things to say about him so I'll take your word
Aidan O'Connel didn't make the list 😢
Fun fact - the QB School is ranked #1 in my book.
Toughest QB, Holton Ahlers played ALL season with a separated shoulder. Happened 2nd driver opening game . Including a late season broken finger on his throwing hand . Never missed a game in 2023
@tvtda1
Жыл бұрын
dominated the pre draft process as well...
Find some Tyson Bagent tape and let us know!
@3serio
Жыл бұрын
I forget how i stumbled on to his tape, but that kid is going to be a steal for somebody. I know he played at a lower level, but he was damned good. You could even see it when he was at the senior bowl.
JT what do you think about Jaren Hall from BYU? I really liked him on tape as a solid quarterback that could be a highend backup in the league. Would love to get your thoughts on it. Keep up the great work, you’re killing it!
@TheQBSchool
Жыл бұрын
Never watched
@nathantewkesbury8175
Жыл бұрын
@@TheQBSchool *All good fun and prolly don’t remember me but I gave you a bunch of shit about your Kenny Pickett evaluation. Where are you with Pickett now ?? “The Natural Feel” for the game and the QB position is something you can’t teach. And I’m curious why you don’t ever mention or take this into account nearly enough with all these QBs ?? I feel this is one of those traits that sorta seperates the good or great QBs*
@stevensmith5784
Жыл бұрын
I really like Hall too and don't get why ppl aren't discussing him more.
@nathantewkesbury8175
Жыл бұрын
@@stevensmith5784 *Not discussing b/c the BYU offensive scheme in general sorta holds or stunts QB growth. We seen it with Zack Wilson at next level. And as a BYU fan I can tell you it’s real. Even still J.Hall has some NFL type traits and ability that when compared to other QBs in the class, Hall comes out ahead. He has a chance and some teams will like Hall*
@nathantewkesbury8175
Жыл бұрын
@@TheQBSchool *Kenny Pickett would be #2 on my QB Board with this 2023 class. I just don’t understand why the “QB School” doesn’t see what I see with Pickett*
Im taken Stroud #1, Joe Borrow doesn't run much, hes just athletic enough and thats what I see out of Stroud but hes more athletic, Young is to small I wouldn't take that chance if im the GM with my job on the line
Jake Haener reminds me off Jeff Garcia what do you think
Anthony Richardson can be successful in the same ways Lamar has been at his best. So many mobile QBs use their athleticism to beat the rush by escaping the pocket. Like Lamar though, Richardson is such a uniquely good athlete that he trusts himself to make people miss from within the pocket as well
@billytheweasel
Жыл бұрын
That part is outstanding. His run game superb and injury is a risk there too. Just so many open WRs not seen and bad passes. Can that stuff be taught? He gets drafted high, he WILL get thrown in there.
@deathhimself1653
Жыл бұрын
@@billytheweasel It can be, QB's do improve. Joe Burrow got outcompeted by Dwayne Haskins and had to transfer before he got better. He had to work. Richardson hasn't had the time to develop. And when he throws off balance or under pressure, its much more accurate. He just needs time for the mechanics to match his natural ability.
@cincydooley
Жыл бұрын
@@deathhimself1653 Joe Burrow was winning that competition until he got hurt.
@Mrlazerfazer
Жыл бұрын
Lamar won a heisman. Richardson won like 5 games with no stats. He looks like he’s good but is he tho?
@ksolo614
Жыл бұрын
@@cincydooley Not true Dwayne beat out Joe in the spring. Joe may have had the edge in the previous season before his injury. But they had a fair competition.
got it spot on JT!
I can’t remember having less interest in the rookie class of QBs then this one.
"The best ability is availability" Bud Grant.
Am I the only one who always smacks my hands together with JT every time he starts the video?
I know this is worn out, but what do you think is going to happen to Lamar. I think he's going to stay with the Ravens, or on draft day someone is going to make a big move if 1 or 2 of their players fall.
I would put Headernl, DTR Hendon Hooker ahead of Will Levis. This could make me look bad but that's how I feel.
How well did this age?
@jwalker65ify
5 ай бұрын
Cj number one and AR number 2 Bryce could be 3 or 4 at best
Pretty close to how I thought you'd have them based on the the breakdowns. I honestly feel like if he was 22 instead of 25 and not coming off of an ACL that Hendon Hooker would be pushing Richardson for the #3 spot and a no doubt first round pick. Seems like a good group this year with a lot of upside despite the question marks.
@todradmaker4297
Жыл бұрын
With the length of a QB's career I don't think that an injury or his age are that much of a factor.
@SyShowtime
Жыл бұрын
He took until 24 to break out and played in a super easy system lol at 22 he sucked
I knew you would be sleeping in Tyson Bageant. He only threw the most TD passes in NCAA history.
Every year when i see this video, im convinced its a prank because of how much you hate rankings haha
checkin back here to see someone that ranked penix 5th this year also ranked young over stroud. makes me feel much better LMAO
W list
I think McKee should be no 5 as opposed to Hooker, with Hooker being no 6, only because McKee comes from more of a pro-style offense. It was actually your film breakdowns that made me rethink my perception of him and consider him a viable option for my Colts if we don't like the QBs left at 4 and trade down. I wouldn't mind adding some top-level receiving talent and OL in the first 3 rounds and targeting McKee in rounds 2 or 3 to take over our offense.
If last year is anything to go by the mid-late round guys (zappe, purdy) will prove to be the best lol.
@ren2871
Жыл бұрын
Stetson Bennett is better than Levis imo. Both older QB's but Bennet is the more cerebral, decisive, accurate QB of the two and is a sneaky good athlete. Levis throws every ball like it's a 100mph fast ball and has poor pocket presence. Bennett to Atlanta in the 3rd or 4th makes too much sense.
@isaiahh4108
Жыл бұрын
@@ren2871 Bennett has a lot of turnover worthy plays he’s just on the best team by far
@ren2871
Жыл бұрын
@@isaiahh4108 by far? He was also a big reason why Georgia won. As good as Georgia is, I'm not sure you could say their offensive players outside the QB position were that much better than Alabama's and Ohio State's.
@adamfoxstolethenorris4727
Жыл бұрын
@@isaiahh4108 Its tough to just chalk it up to being on the best team when he was down by 2 scores in a playoff game and brought them back. Where was the rest of the "best team by far" for the first 3 quarters?
@isaiahh4108
Жыл бұрын
@@adamfoxstolethenorris4727 that’s a one off he came through the team carried him more often than he did by a lot
Any opinion on Jaren Hall, JT?
@stevensmith5784
Жыл бұрын
Nevermind just saw your answered this question lol
Of QBs taken outside the 1st round, if given the opportunity, Clayton Tune will be the best.
If Stroud played every game like he did against Georgia, would you have him higher than Bryce? Meaning if he scrambled more and used his legs more?
Richardson is so raw. I don't know if he's a fluid passer, maybe more so than Levis but I don't see touch or nuance from Richardson's passes yet. His pro day imo also was telling that his mechanics are poor and he was likely coached to basically slow trot/walk around after imaginary hikes to set up his throws. Its alarming that he wasn't confident to run plays like he would even be moving at anywhere near full speed. That says something for me about how rough his passing footwork, body control, technique state is. Its very subjective to come up with a tier list like these so its hard to argue one way or another without knowing which team is drafting and their roster needs/strengths. Personally I think Hooker will be the better pro between the two. I have a hard time buying the one year non-wonder (stats) hype of Richardson.
I think you missed Mason Nyhus of The University of Saskatchewan Huskies
Anthony Richardson to the Lions please
This is going to be funny to see in the future 😂😂 its all a guess.
If you were to compare Will Levis to a current NFL QB, who would that be?
Awesome would love to see you and simms talk football
Good reminder that anyone choosing between Bryce or Richardson should be more than happy with either, just in different ways.
I look for "rubik's cubing" of the football because of JT....... Will Lewis is the new ball flipping king
Surprised you didn't take a look at Jake H. Some people have him above Hooker.
I must be much highe on DTR then lol
I loved your Kyle Shanahan break down
@TheQBSchool
Жыл бұрын
Ha
OConnell?
Have you seen any Malik Cunningham?
Yessir go panthers
CJ and AR will be the best ones out of this group
I'd welcome AR to Houston with open arms
JT have you ever considered pursuing a scouting job for an NFL franchise?
@mitchellapple9184
Жыл бұрын
Being a NFL scout is a horrible job. Long hours. Too much travel. Low pay. Fuck that.
@TheQBSchool
Жыл бұрын
No
@dakotathomas2139
Жыл бұрын
@@TheQBSchool cool, thank you for the response. Love your analysis and content!
I am interested to see where Tanner McKee will go.
Did he watch them at Elite 11 2019 or in 2022?
@todradmaker4297
Жыл бұрын
2022
My Rankings 1. Bryce Young 2. CJ Stroud 3. Hendon Hooker 4. Stetson Bennett 5. Jake Haener 6. Clayton Tune 7. Anthony Richardson 8. Tanner McKee 9. Will Levis 10. Max Duggan
CJ can throw, but can he scramble and throw?! Million dollar question...
Honestly I don’t see it w Levis at all and ar I think should play another position w that athleticism
Will rogers?
QB Anthony Richardson might get picked by the the Indianapolis Colt's in upcoming NFL Draft.
I really like Levit and Hooker. Anthony completion % concerns me.
Other than height weight speed what is better about Levi’s and Richardson than a QB like Clayton Tune. Tune seems better to me when I watch him.
@TheQBSchool
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@joshreynolds7610
Жыл бұрын
@@TheQBSchool Last year everyone was hyping up Willis for his athleticism and arm strength but clearly Purdy was the better actual Quarterback. I could see Tune being better than both Levis and Richardson in the NFL.
Why is Stetson Bennett so underrated. He made a lot of amazing plays over the last couple years and his arm strength is highly underrated
@nathan.d.c
Жыл бұрын
Stetson Bennett has peaked. he doesn't have much of a ceiling. but as we've seen before, his floor is pretty rough (2020 for example). he's going to be a great backup / spot starter in the league when he gets his shot. but he's not among the elite of this class by any means.
@Tejano_Sports
Жыл бұрын
"BeCauSe hEs oLd"
@travishouse6295
Жыл бұрын
@@nathan.d.c Can you explain why you believe he has peaked at 25?
I think Will Levis may end up looking more like a right handed Tim Tebow/Ryan Fitzpatrick
@mitchellapple9184
Жыл бұрын
Wtf? Tebow and Fitzpatrick are nothing alike.
@davidwillis8623
Жыл бұрын
@@mitchellapple9184 big, physical players that are capable of starting if needed that can get the ball down field, though with inconsistent accuracy
@timedell2012
Жыл бұрын
Levis quick release isn’t comparable to Tebows windup delivery
@davidwillis8623
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@@timedell2012 his accuracy at times is comparable though