Here is the run til dry test kzread.info/dash/bejne/d2R3qs-Qh6m6hso.html

Looking forward to the "run until dry" test!

@ALDA2479

Жыл бұрын

It's not gonna take much more the light is already on and there bit of fuel still there imo it's a big flawed design by KTM and for 12K at that

@Crust2013

Жыл бұрын

@@ALDA2479 doubt it lol

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/d2R3qs-Qh6m6hso.html

Love the videos, I’m shopping and these def are helpful. Ride on!

Looks to me like it more like a bulit-in aux tank than what you would expect from oversized tank. Don't think it would leave you stranded but wouldn't be fun if it cut out going up a hill or over a jump. I suppose it's not an issue on the SX with the smaller tank but something to think about if you take the XC to the MX track.

You can get longer bolts and someone to machine spacer for between the tank and the fuel pump and then run something to connect from the bottom into over probably like a hose with a couple of CNC ends

Thanks for the review. I am interested in your findings on the fuel pump location and ability to get most fuel out of the tank. In regards to fuel consumption, I wondered if you felt you ride this bike in the same rpm range as you comparative older bike? Thanks for the good review...

Remove the pickup filter, if it is attached on a nipple see if a hose can be installed at pump and that filter assembly (providing you can attach a hose to it) maybe on a pressed in plastic tube, completely relocated to the left wing at far end of that hose. May put a kink in hose though coming out of that well the pump sits in.

I like the add a wing, hose to get over into the lower part of the gas tank idea. In an earleir video I thought I recalled you saying the Honda and other bikes use the same fuel pump, pick arrangement.

@mikegro8502

Жыл бұрын

Honda uses a completely different tank design. There the pump sits on the lowest point and the tanks also dont have these wings

Look for a long Holley hydramat that can sit in the pump pocket as well as reach to the bottom of the tank wing

Love your ingenuity and insight into all bike related things but this seems like a solution looking for a problem.

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Thats kinda how I feel too. I am going to test it soon.

@SeatTime

Жыл бұрын

You should hear his thoughts on fixing my life…

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

@@SeatTime bwahahaha

Pretty shure you can't empty the tank completely. maybe in uphill sections. I think the best way is to hope for IMS or Acerbis to build a better fuel tank where they relocate to pump to a lower part of the tank.

No tight bend radii to get squashed, definitely an improvement the old style

Just Subscribe, awesome design from KTM. Good job man, great videos! Hope you make more! We wait in EU the EXC's TBI.

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

KTM used to sale tank foam ( the concept was adopted from NASCAR who used foam to keep gas from sloshing around) but in this scenario you need it to slosh around . in order to keep that fuel petcock out of the way ( so it would not break off) I guess this is the only way they could really do it.

Silicone clear works well with those cheap screws for the fuel pump also

the "filter" will hold prime and kinda work like a mini sump any fuel sloshing will be picked up. you can check out hydra mat. a holley product they have many sizes and shapes. also in the snowmobile world we have pods that have little check valves that shut when no fuel is present these are meant to sit flat on the bottom of a tank shape of that tank might be a challenge as the pods are circular. might have to go ride that baby low on fuel for a while see if it's a issue. I'm guessing that "filter" is going to collect enuf while rough riding to use most of the fuel in the tank.

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

That is what I am hoping too.

This is the number 1 reason I bought a 22 model in 23.

You'd think the engineers would be smart enough to modify that pump to have feeds into both low sides of the tank ... you're onto the solution needed for peace of mind. This is a huge red flag for me ... imagine a long day's ride, you're low on fuel but still have a 1/4 to 1/2 gal, but your bike dies because you're on a long flat transfer section back to the truck. I'd be super PO'd that my >$10K bike wasn't able to use all the fuel in order to get me home.

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Agree

@dirtbkr100

7 ай бұрын

@@highlandcycles This happened to me recently. Was about 5 miles from the truck (in a straight line) and realized I wasn't going to have the fuel to finish the winding trail back. I took dirt roads instead to make it more of a straight shot. Bike ran out of fuel SEVERAL times on the flat roads. I had to violently bounce the bike with my body weight while moving to keep the fuel sloshing around and even then it still bogged out a few times. Absolutely the DUMBEST thing that's ever happened to me on a dirt bike. Is no one making a fix for this yet? Some kind of pick up extension??

This is how the new reserve works, when it dies you have to lean it over to keep going 🤣😂

Curious to know KTM's take on this concern.

KTM catering to the hard enduro crowd, when getting low on gas you just need to do some Jarvis slow wheelie practice to get it to the pump

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@Crust2013

Жыл бұрын

Go on then

@MiddlePark

Жыл бұрын

Ktm is ripping of the enduro crowd. Overpriced low quality junk with horrible resale and reliability. Kmart brands are expensive because they include lots of extras. Cnc clamps, cnc hubs, high output stators, clickers, lighting, trip computers, throttle cams, filters, tools, and flashy gay colors to show everyone you ride with Pride.

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

@@Crust2013 tomorrow morning

@Crust2013

Жыл бұрын

@@MiddlePark your a Wowza for sure ,pfft sideline critic rite thier

Would that work like a reserve tank that gives a warning before it runs totally out?

looks like a good amount of gas in there still with the light on

I'm not a ktm fan but i enjoyed watching your last few videos on the TBI 👌

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

@diggs345lr

Жыл бұрын

@@highlandcycles i gave you a sub and ill watch a few more in my free time .

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

@@diggs345lr thanks man. Hope you enjoy them.

I ran mine pretty close to empty on a trail ride (hardly anything in the right wing), and never noticed an issue, so the splashing theory must work. However this does explain the inconsistent fuel light.

@dustinmoore8909

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this comment. How many miles did you get on that tank of gas?

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Good to know.

@upshift123

Жыл бұрын

@@dustinmoore8909 I started with a half tank on that ride. But I did about 40-45 miles of technical single track last weekend and got back to the truck with a little less than how much was in the tank in this video. I was being conscious about fuel consumption though. I'd guess the range is about 50-60 miles depending on the type of riding.

@billdrisc217

Жыл бұрын

Can you calibrate the wheel to the instrument? Does is show miles?

@upshift123

Жыл бұрын

@@billdrisc217 no, XC models only have an hour meter.

Ok tried to take a pic of a drawing I made but wont let me post I'll explain best i can. If you run a fuel line hose down each wing in fuel tank that both come up to fuel pump hole.. Connect those 2 hoses to a t fitting that has another small hose on the middle connection on t fitting that points down to the bottom of fuel pump hole. So now you have both wing hoses touching the corners of fuel tank and the middle short hose pointing straight down in the fuel pump hole. So it should syphon fuel from wings into the fuel pump hole.. Pretty sure this will work

@jeepwhitesides1678

Жыл бұрын

Just a thought id try it if I had a 23 ktm. I really think it will work

IMS has a low side pick up for their large tanks, but there are issues with it sucking air if you where to crash on right side

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

I’ve heard that. I have one coming so we will test

Dump most of fuel and retest. Does it draw fuel from vacuum ?

maybe that was chad reeds problem if sx tank is the same the decell on the table top might of washed fuel forward

non racers love two strokes also....imagine a trail rider that isn't riding in stretches where the desert road is fairly smooth....this thing could start running lean and run out of gas very easily....

Do you worry about lack of fuel to cool the pump causing premature wear, and possible failure? I know at least in cars constantly running low on fuel is hard on the pump and can cause problems.

@ALDA2479

Жыл бұрын

It is on bikes and quads too I own a few efi of both and just doing wheelies with low gas has burnt them up

Surly the engineers looked into this one, would be surprised if the completely redesigned the tanks and didn’t test it.

What fuel splashes into the filter area will stay there because that is a wicking pad / filter.

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Yep.

It’s just fine! Fuel pumps have been pumping gas for 50 years or more. What the joke companies need to focus on is a fuel level gauge. These 4 strokes are basically lawnmower motors so they have them on mowers so all bikes should have a fuel level gauge

Well, I "ran out of gas" yesterday with both wings still containing fuel. Don't think I can share pics. Bike started bogging and realized it was running out of gas. I jumped up and down on the bike and got some fuel to splash into the center. I'm in FL so not much elevation to count on hills to splash the gas into the center section. This was my first ride so we'll see how it does next time out.

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Dang. Out here in the Rocky stuff I’m getting almost all the gas out of the tank

@JRideRR

Жыл бұрын

@@highlandcycles Next time I see the fuel light I’ll do a couple more wheelies. 😜

Older Victorys had a split fuel pickup line with filters on both ends. Maybe you can get one and adapt it to work with this fuel pump. ... Its really not a cool system as it is. Plus as a racer you might never no how much mileage you'll get out of a tank

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Snowmobiles have a system like that today.

Has anyone come up with a fix? My 24w ran out while warming it up yesterday

Carb bikes have managed fairly well needing to get fuel from right to left for the petcock. I would imagine same principles apply here especially being most the tanks cross over in the same spot as the now fuel pump.

@ALDA2479

Жыл бұрын

Petcock also draw from the bottom with a vacuum which helps a ton this is suspended in the air so the whole pump will be in the air with gas below it suckin air fighting for fuel not even close to the same

@Alex_Piazza

Жыл бұрын

I don't disagree the pump has some disadvantages, but that amount of vacuum isn't going to draw fuel vertically and over from one side to the other. Still requires sloshing effect.

What about the tiny in-line filters? How do you remove them and where do you get new ones? I’ve seen some aftermarket examples as well… opinion on those?

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

I remove them with a pick. Just kinda cock it in there and pop it out. I get new ones from the dealer. I haven’t used an aftermarket one.

Im not an Engineer, but I an a repair technician for industrial equipment , and whom ever designed that tank/pump design, You have to Wonder, how you can take something that worked and switched it to That.

@highlandcycles

Ай бұрын

I think it had to do with people breaking the fittings off the old style and mass centralization. It’s odd and not great but it does work in true off road conditions. Terrible for smooth terrain

With pump gas, how often do you think you’ll need to replace that filter?

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Damn good question. I think it will have more to do with how much dirt gets in the tank.

I have an area with smooth fire road up to a hard enduro section, it's about 8 miles. Many times I'm low on gas coming back and it will not pick up the last 4 or 5 inches. This is really going to suck for the new dual sport bikes.

@highlandcycles

10 ай бұрын

Yep. The 500’s are having issues

Sorry, do you know the pressure value (bar) which this pump works and if it's elettronically adjustable?

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

I don't. Most KTM's run at about 50psi and not adjustable

Damn I'm glad I found this video, I found it bizzare that I ran out of fuel the weekend on my KTM 300 HardEnduro 24. Plenty of fuel left in the lower left side and some in right side, I was struggling to understand where it was pulling gas from because I couldn't see the pipe work. This makes it all make sense stupid ass design.

@degenjam2885

6 ай бұрын

I will make sure i'm doing plenty of wheelies when running low on gas from now on.

@highlandcycles

6 ай бұрын

Yep. And Taco Moto is coming out with a fix soon

@degenjam2885

6 ай бұрын

@@highlandcycles That would be good, my issue is the end of my usual day out is riding along the roads to get home, usually when i'm lowest on fuel. Will keep an eye out for the fix. Or just carry a decent amount of reserve.

Think of it as a reserve, when the fuel light starts coming on or it starts to sputter or die you'll probably have enough in the left wing to get you going 🤣

Huge huge issue!!!! I run out on every ride!! Have to carry gas. I’m on a 2024 Ktm XCW 300. Friends have 1/2 a gallon left on older 300 I’m empty yet still have gas in the tank. It sucks!!!

@highlandcycles

8 ай бұрын

Taco Moto has a fix coming soon

Does the fuel light come on with roughly a litre left? Is it consistent? Hopefully that lower left tank lobe holds enough to slosh back up that slope in the pick up for the fuel pump? It certainly looks like KTM are trying to win back some customers with this bike. I really hope they are trying hard.

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

I am hoping it will splash up too. I will be testing that very soon. So far, the performance on this bike is absolutely amazing!

Holley hydra mat

With nearly a gallon of fuel weight difference between the left and right wings of the tank, have you noticed any difference in bike balance/feel while riding?

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

No

I turn off my left tap with my 1090R still pumps both sides out

Has anyone come up with anything to get that fuel out of the side tank? It’s bogged out on me like 4 or 5 times now while racing and this last time was on the face of a jump. I looked down and I still had plenty of fuel in the side tank

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Not yet but I am working on something

If there’s room, someone could possibly come up with a driil in fitting and hose kit to act as a Siphon between the wing and the pump bubble.

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

It’s possible but then you would have a hard time installing the tank and then Hooking it back up

@Gthepy

Жыл бұрын

Very true, would make it difficult to uninstall and reinstall the tank. Hopefully if issues arise, ktm will come up with a solution.

I think KTM was just giving us a built-in reserve. Now you don't have to fiddle with the petcock, just stop and tip it over for a few minutes. ;) I would be interested in doing what others have mentioned, siphoning the gas out of that central reservoir, and seeing what type of movement lets the gas flow back in.

@Crust2013

Жыл бұрын

Yea smart call...

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Tested this morning. Video soon

@lostinactionable

Жыл бұрын

@@highlandcycles hey man, love the videos and intelligent questions. any update on this? has she been run dry yet?

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

@@lostinactionable kzread.info/dash/bejne/d21_sdmwaJzSn5c.html

It may be an issue however I can't believe the KTM engineers overlooked it.

Hey bro I've been giving you shit lately, but got to say hands down have the most comprehensive review of this bike on youtube.

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Having a love/hate relationship with my '23 300 xc. Seems the fuel pump filter is failing for the second time in 70 hours.

@highlandcycles

3 ай бұрын

Dang

@mark_Hershey

2 ай бұрын

What do you mean the filter is failing?

@TeamStruggleBunny

2 ай бұрын

@@mark_Hershey The filter on the fuel pump seems to fail in stages, though some have had it just completely fail. What that means is it is clogging up and won't let fuel flow through and the bike starves and quits. It typically shows up when you hit full throttle and the pump gets max signal and volts to draw fuel and the filter restricts that flow so the bike bogs out. Nasty if you're on the face of a jump or trying to climb a big hill. Video here if you're interested: kzread.info/dash/bejne/maV-xadtj9S1iJs.html

if you put a siphon down to the low part of the tank, and then the tank DOES work as designed, you'll be sucking air while the well around the pump has fuel. Doesn't really make sense to keep theorizing on it - just go run it out of gas on trails and see what happens

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

I am going to. And I think you are right about the air but snow mobiles have a similar system. They have pickups in the front of the tank and back of the tank. Because they are so long and you spend lots of time going straight uphill and straight down hill and they make it work.

Rode the bike this weekend did major hill climb and even shorter hill climb with pretty good incline. Seems like Bike is running out of gas during these climbs also noticed that when the bike is laying down, it’s pissing out gas i In my opinion, the bike is not worth the money ! Doesn’t matter how good the engineers is if you can’t get gas too it!! Not only not being able to get gas to it but it gets really bad gas mileage on top of it so I’m carrying five 12 ounce water bottles full of gas to make a full day ride of six hours. Second,: you have to spend way too much money on the bike to get it to be a decent bike to ride. You can tighten up the steering head, but you still need a stabilizer if you ride deep sand . My bike is burning a lot of oil a lot more than my old 300 . Not quite sure if I like the new pegs or not but that might be because I’m riding with a lowered seat I also noticing that the bike wants to veer to the left . Again, all in all not a good bike don’t buy it !!!!

@highlandcycles

8 ай бұрын

Burning more oil?? It’s a premix bike?

That seems like a less-thought out design. It's not really a reserve because it doesn't transfer to sump area or give you access to all the fuel stored in the wing. Normal reserve saves a portion of the fuel and gives you access to all the reserve...this should be called Whiskey-reserve since you have to whiskey throttle every few seconds to keep splashing fuel into the reserve. Silly design. A less silly design would have made the sump larger to accept more of the reserve.

Can you take apart the power valve?

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

I will, it will be a while though

@Sir_Bob.

Жыл бұрын

@@highlandcycles ok

You know, I only have some college physics, but gravity normally makes things go to the lowest level... maybe KTM has worked around that. But, Jenny, I am not a smart man.

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Check out my new video.

Definitely looks like a bad pickup design. Like you say, the left wing is pretty much a reserve. So how many gallons is it until the light comes on.

Ive got a Husqvarna 300tx and this is 100% an issue. I can get around 45 miles out of a tank before the bike start to sputter. No amount of sloshing will get bike to finish a tank. I'm open if anyone has a solution?

@highlandcycles

7 ай бұрын

Taco moto will have one very soon. Stay tuned

While you are talking about fuel. I see in the owners manual recommends 95 octane. Kinda hard to find 95, are you running regular pump gas or are you running a race fuel?

@scottcoplin8322

Жыл бұрын

Never mind, the manual is talking ROZ or RON and 95 is equivalent to 91 octane in the US.

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. I was going to tell you that. The whole octane thing is weird that it’s not universal standard

KTM engineers definitely don’t know more than the average dirtbike rider.😂

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha I agree but look at the TPi situation.

wheelie time

The tank has been very specifically designed, with each curvature within the tank, encouraging the fluid dynamics to direct all fuel from both side/wings, rearward then up & into the centre fuel pump cavity under light forward acceleration, you will find in real world operation of the motorcycle, the fuel pump cavity will run dry at the same time as the side wings.

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

I’m excited to see that.

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/d2R3qs-Qh6m6hso.html

Have you run it empty yet

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

No, doing that tomorrow morning

Tentacles?

Why not lower the gas level so you can see?

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

I am going to test it to running out tomorrow

What's the one thing that stops EVERY vehicle dead eventually? Fuel pumps! With me going multiple mountain ranges away, usually by myself. I would never buy a bike that has one. I will stick with my dead to freaking nails reliable YZ250 2T. And I will never look back.

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

I hear ya. That’s why I’m not getting rid of my carbureted 300.

@lukedvisscher4676

Жыл бұрын

Hey no offense, I love your vids, it's just I am a little passionate about my YZ, bought it brand new in 2007, only the second crank, original crank probably had 1000hrs and was just fine.

My 2020 beta 300 has a 2.6 gallon tank and I can get roughly 62 miles until it’s dry. last week it ran out a mile from the gas station. When I start I laid it on its left side completely and fired back up when I filled it up I put 2.4 gallons in it. so it had 2 ounces on the right side cavity. problem is here you’re gonna have to go up into the right I guess this will give a person a chance to do them hard Enduro skills. If I tried it it probably goes straight up into my ass meaning me on the ground on my ass.

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha

Hey Morgan! My 300xc isn’t getting all the fuel from the tank and then the fuel light comes on. Is there a permanent fix you have found or do you still have to Gerry rig something. Thanks. 🤘🏼🔥

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Not yet. It’s a dumb design. I’m hoping the 24+ bikes will have something

@janneskruger1262

Жыл бұрын

@@highlandcycles so just bigger tank?

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

@@janneskruger1262 yes

Or wait until 2024 when KTM fixes this fiasco 😂

@Crust2013

Жыл бұрын

Dah yea brainy arnt you

No it’s not. I had a fellow racer that races in my program that run out of gas before it was out last weekend

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

That’s what I was worried about

You're solving a problem you don't even know exists with your pickup on the bottom left side of the tank. Why don't you actually find out if you can run it dry first? Do you think KTM wants 0.25 gallons of trapped fuel? Just a thought

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

I will be testing tomorrow

KTM probably tested that, so it should suck all the gas (i hope lol)

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

I am hoping so

Not the best idea they have had on a fuel tank design and pump. They just did not finish the design. KTM will have every excuse to say it is solid but the designer had a budget and he stopped when he ran out. Now the after market crowd will solve the problem and charge you and exuberant amount of money to fix the issue.

@highlandcycles

4 ай бұрын

Agree. Taco Moto has a real solution that will be available soon.

Until you run it dry and find out, really no point in discussing it. I would think KTM tested the design for quite awhile before going into production.

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

I agree, it’s just a bit of a concern.

@MrPindie

Жыл бұрын

They said that about TPI🤣

@MiddlePark

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely incorrect. KMRT bikes are rushed to production. They never even figured out tpi and abandon it after talking it up and selling 11k bikes to customers only to abandon them as well. Kmrt makes throw away bikes.

Why didn’t you just pour half that gas out and try and ride it, seems like a long winded way to find out if it will work

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Thats actually not a lot of gas in there. Probably less than a gallon, maybe 1/2. I am taking it out tomorrow to run it dry

@joedwyerjoe

Жыл бұрын

Look forward to seeing how it goes, would be weird for KTM to stuff up this bad, unless they rushed the 8.5l xc tank to market with the sx fuel pump/tank design which doesn’t drop down as low

My option i think you are over thinking this fuel pick up worry I am sure it will be all good it’s KTM man👍👍

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

You are probably right. Its just odd that the fuel light comes on so early. I am going to find out for sure.

@richardhartley1705

Жыл бұрын

@@highlandcycles if you have around half a gallon left in the tank when the low fuel warning comes on that be about right👍

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

@@richardhartley1705 I think there might be more than that in there but not sure. The biggest solution needed right now is a larger tank.

Your supposed to WHEELIE every 5 minutes on a Katoom....Problem solved 🤣

I feel like this was a terrible design.... I would hate to see it cutting out of fuel on your way up the face of a jump ✊️😳💥🤕

This stupid design cost me a first place finish. Because guess what... It doesn't all splash up. Surprise! In fact I ran out with a half gallon still in the tank.

@highlandcycles

10 ай бұрын

Yep. They need to fix it

I see you trying to milk this issue, no pun intended. Just remove most of the fuel from the tank and go for a normal ride...duh, let's see what happens. Will the bike run out of gas fuel pump wise, or will the fuel somehow get into the fuel pump at every last drop? I guess the next question is, how many more videos are you going to make before you just do a simple test???

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha. I’m going tomorrow morning

@onthethrottle7104

Жыл бұрын

@@highlandcycles Thanks Morgan. I just watched the entire video and see that you did have a ride planned so my apologies. I must say, you have been riding amazingly on this new bike - I know you're an A rider but it's easy to see your game stepped up a few major notches on this new bike for sure! I look forward to the next vid! Thanks again.

half assed design

@highlandcycles

Жыл бұрын

Agree. It’s the only part about the bike that I don’t like

That china quality motor will fail at the worst time.

@onthethrottle7104

Жыл бұрын

Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about; even if you don't like KTM one has to acknowledge how amazing their build quality is.

@MiddlePark

Жыл бұрын

@@onthethrottle7104 Kmrt braded bikes are the worst on the market aside from completely made in china bikes (that look an awful lot like ktm bikes). Finding a dealership with experience and is knowledgeable with ktm branded bikes is impossible here in this part of the Rockies. KTM and husky dealerships failed to repair their own brand, under and past warranty. Ktm is a cancer in the dirtbike world, I spent 11k on a new 22 huskavarna here in Grand county, assembled by the dealership owners kid (unbelievable, kid did a horrible job and shouldn't be anywhere near a new bike). Broke down several times before 20 hrs. 2 dealerships, $800.00 in diagnostics, parts and labor, still ran horrible. Turns out many ktm parts are actually made in china at a componet level, or came from somewhere other than Japan (not good). Take the pump assembly as example. Not the whole assembly, but parts that make it up, the fuel pump motor is japan branded, but made in china and very low quality. Ktm has the worst resale for a reason, low quality, short lifespan, basically the hot chick with herpes. Get a quality Japan bike beside a ktm and it's obvious the ktm are on par with chinese quality toy grade kmart bikes they are. The tpi and tbi have horrific range and efficiency, tbi is unproven, it will take years to find out. Kmart bikes sell because people have to have the latest design with fruity colors and accessories out of Chinatown as bragging rights, same reason a kia sells. Ktm brands are ugly as can be to boot, especially after a 10 min ride, the paint will be worn off, plastics ragged, tank will have yellowed and constant top end jobs make a mess of everything, forget that wp trash, never again. Kmrt abandoned tpi after pushing it on the dirtbike community for tbi and all new issues in time. Sucked having a 11k dirtbike, that I might see a cheapo gas gas or ktm that is basically the same thing, rebranded over and over again for profit.

Just go run it dry and stop talking about it. LOL

@highlandcycles

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Tomorrow morning

Every now and again do a wheelie to get the gas to flow back. ggg The designers were not thinking with a full deck when they designed the tank's fuel pump.