2023 Honda Civic Type-R: Real World Test On Road And Track | Top Gear
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This is the latest FL5 generation Honda Civic Type R, driven on road and track. It’s likely the last of a dying breed, an old-school front-drive, manual gearbox hot hatch. One with 324bhp, a 171mph top end, some less, er, challenging looks than the old FK8 and a front end so clever it can outwit its own driver. Seriously, it’s capable of some mind-boggling feats.
But is it a hot hatch at all when it’s almost the size of a BMW M3 and costs £47,000? It is when the recipe is right and it’s this good to drive. Honda has been building Civic Type Rs for 25 years, and has honed the latest to within an inch of its life. Nothing has been overlooked. The turbo spins 3 per cent more freely, the flywheel is 18 per cent lighter reducing inertia by 25 per cent, the steering column now wears a larger torsion bar reducing deflections by 60 per cent, revised lower suspension arms improve camber rigidity by 16 per cent and rear body rigidity is up 15 per cent. Many per cents.
Enough in fact for us to declare the new Type R TopGear’s Car of the Year 2022. And not just because of the handling, nor the superb gearshift and the sublime new seats. It’s that it all works in such harmony and is as rewarding to drive as any ‘proper’ sports car you care to mention.
It’s a sublime car, this. More demanding of you than a Golf GTI or R, but infinitely more entertaining and beguiling. What a thing to drive…
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0:51 - Stuff It Gets Wrong
2:41 - Stuff It Gets Right
8:58 - Verdict
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I love this car! It is simplistic and at the same time aggressive without being over the top. It's nice to see Honda keep the Civic Type-R (pity is the price).
@Fluterra
Жыл бұрын
Not the price as much as the availability. It’s stupid to make so few…
@DenonGregory
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@wanglee21
Жыл бұрын
I don't know if we can even justify the price any longer at this point. Imagine the last women on earth before every other women is AI. What will be the price you are willing to offer for the last of it's kind. Also remember this is the last FWD hot hatch, as ("100%") of others are now AWD.
@YutakaYamagishi
Жыл бұрын
Top Gear always with Top Content.
@lexburen5932
Жыл бұрын
@@Fluterra not really, because the EG6 and ek9 Type R where never sold overseas. Be happy honda even makes it available. and probably you wont even buy it. i have set myself on the list for a championship white. i cant wait till it arrives
48k is a lot of dosh, the problem is that that the Golf R is now around 43k, the Audi RS3 57k list price and the M3 around 75k, so you could argue it's good value relatively speaking. It's just every other car is now bloody expensive as well, and don't even start looking at EV prices 😱
@curiosityredpill7030
Жыл бұрын
Elantra n,Hyundai veloster n,Mazda 3 turbo if you want to add those two to the mix
@UTubeSL
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a good point. Tbh I'd sacrifice some of the competence get an i30N for what is it, £12k less? I suspect that car is at least as much fun as well, particularly day to day with its yobbo soundtrack.
@Peregrine-qp4fq
Жыл бұрын
Bang for buck the latest Cupra Leon 300 2.0l Tsi looks excellent value.
@AndyWood71
Жыл бұрын
The GR Yaris is the best Hot Hatch end of
@dennisgypsy3096
Жыл бұрын
5k will not stop someone to get his dream car I think this is brilliant car
Finally, an Accord Type-R
@Alex-gv3gq
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Agreed. I will replace Civic emblem with Accord 😂 for my new Type R
@chrispalmer3096
Жыл бұрын
Not finally...the Mk6 Accord did have a TypeR.
@theweeknd2725
Жыл бұрын
@@chrispalmer3096 Damn
@AnshidSalman
Жыл бұрын
CL1 Accord Type R : 🥲
@Devogor
Жыл бұрын
Nothing new, Euro-R....
This is true for every Honda ever made. Even if you get a base Civic, you can feel the right foundation to being a driver's car. I've owned a 2004 Honda Accord Type S (modifed to a TypeR-ish performance) for 13 years only because I couldn't find anything better in that class. Being a relatively big sedan, it drove like magic, even compared to newer manual BMWs or other cars "known" to drive good. The new TypeR is way ahead of everything in it's class and even significantly higher classes, and I wouldn't put VW Golf nowhere near that, it was always at the bottom of drivers cars hot hatches. Hot hatch is not about just putting a bigger motor into a chasis, anyone can do that. Putting together a great hot hatch is maybe even more challanging than doing that for a $100k+ sports car.
@biseruk
Жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!
@user-pi7lh5qr9k
6 ай бұрын
Yes
I dig this Ollie dude, he’s not Chris Harris but he’s cool.
@riccardozamprogno5824
Жыл бұрын
"this ollie dude" has been a journalist at top gear magazine for much more than harris has
@goforbroke2
Жыл бұрын
@@riccardozamprogno5824 I’m aware…
@riccardozamprogno5824
Жыл бұрын
@@goforbroke2 probably misunderstood your comment, then. Sorry, clearly not my first language
@adiojohn8404
Жыл бұрын
He is good and his reviews are interesting. One of my faves.
@oscarlainz
Жыл бұрын
The best motoring journos have always been brits, nowadays is the same, I personally like a lot Prosser and Bovingdon
Honda graphics and indicators have never been cutting edge, but they work... reliably. Over and over. And I'm glad to see people can witness that tires do not need to be 20" or larger just for the sake of being larger. Not only are they quite a bit more expensive - especially when you carve the roads regularly, wheels general just need to be big enough to accommodate the brake assembly.
Wooow, love it. Ordered one and will get it late 2023 and can't wait to get it 🔥🔥🔥
@madmugen888
Жыл бұрын
That’s soo awesome, congratulations!
@woloo9877
Жыл бұрын
I wish that I can afford whatever the next generation will be😢😢
This camera quality is just unreal. Really gorgeous video.
It looks like a muscle car and a hot hatch fused together
@actontreadway1168
Жыл бұрын
maybe this is why I like this thing.
@actontreadway1168
Жыл бұрын
it's also at least 1000lbs lighter
@nah3193
Жыл бұрын
Baby Charger
@skippylegrandgourou2069
Жыл бұрын
So much bigger than the competition, they should try it on the Nurb and see if its faster than the Renault Megane RS
@bmx687
Жыл бұрын
@@skippylegrandgourou2069 you already know it is...the previous model has the quickest fwd nurburgring laptime.
Money no object, it’s still at the top of my current list. My inner hooligan has always loved the typeR and the previous “max power” looks have definitely been up my alley but love the sleek looks on this model and I still think fwd is what a hot hatch should be!
@Emil-sh6sq
Жыл бұрын
I love how it does’t scream «I’M SPORTY» in your face like the previous gen. It just tastefully hints at it, and looks functional instead of over the top.
Personally I think the dash display looks great.
@supermanlegend7
8 ай бұрын
Same Amazing ❤
@justinprendeville2678
17 күн бұрын
The rev match LEDs are why I want to get one 😅
That machine it's simply phenomenal!!
First R Type that I could actually buy, what a beauty
Looks like they got a new... Much much better design language. Love it
really happy to see the review in portugal!
I'm way too old to have one. I still sometimes missed my 92 green Integra GSR. Love that car.
@smooth_ops2942
Жыл бұрын
B17 👍🏻
@mvnorsel6354
Жыл бұрын
Same here, going fast doesn't interest me, just going is enough.
@brettgaron136
Жыл бұрын
You are never too old for one of these. Its sad listening to you two.
@mcximus
Жыл бұрын
@@brettgaron136 you'll understand when your back hurts getting out of bed:). Old age sucks.
@brettgaron136
Жыл бұрын
@@mcximus mid 40s here and things hurt already and have for a while lol. It happens thats life. I refuse to let it make me drive boring cars. Ill walk before that happens.
Ollie is great. Incredibly skilled driver to go with excellent presenting.
The Bosch DDU style shift lights are literally the best bit! Size wise… if this is a hot hatch then so was my S5 Sportback.
@ThrottleBody
Жыл бұрын
The size thing is actually a myth. It’s only 3cm longer and wider and 3cm lower than the last gen type r and nobody complained about it’s size.
@mackie1001
Жыл бұрын
@@ThrottleBody yup, it was already large but I was being a bit tongue in cheek - it doesn’t really matter and means it’s even more practical.
I agree, this thing is definitely not a hot hatch anymore when it comes to size. And its apparently at luxury hatch (ex. A45 and RS3) with that crazy price tag.
@ThrottleBody
Жыл бұрын
Not really. A golf r with a few essential options are in the 50s. At least the type r comes with all the kit. Furthermore, fast majority won’t be buying one in cash. It’s all about the monthlies. If you’re getting more car for the money in terms of size and space I don’t really see it as a bad thing.
@arunmfive
Жыл бұрын
why do you forget the GBP has basically cratered against the USD? The currency is fucked, that's why it seems more expensive.
@ThrottleBody
Жыл бұрын
@@arunmfive it’s not that simple. Different trade deals and taxes determine how much the UK pays.
@arunmfive
Жыл бұрын
@@ThrottleBody Well the car is built in Japan with an American made engine and exported to the UK in $, GBP is fucked against the $ and why do you think its 45k USD in USA? With the old exchange rates it should cost around 42k GBP.
@ThrottleBody
Жыл бұрын
@@arunmfive I’ve already answered the question lol.
absolute masterpiece indeed, cool presenter, i like his style and wording, more from him!
I was waiting for a new Type R but my Mustang finance deal was up....no news of a Type R at that stage....opted for an A45 S with only 400 miles on the clock.......love the car..it is amazing! My point is .....I love hot hatches......it is truly wonderful that Honda, Mercedes, Audi, Hyundai, Ford and Volkswagen are still promoting the absolute importance and vitality of the hot catch........hate the push towards SUV's and also electrification..........please, please let's keep the hot hatch amazingness going!!!! They are incredible!
@gregmurnin4532
Жыл бұрын
sorry hot hatch...not hot catch lol
I think FK 8 will stay as Legend!! ❤️❤️❤️
@ABCDEFG-sp2pg
Жыл бұрын
@Volkan i guess you dont know what a jdm is.
@nollienick1121
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. I can’t see a reason to sell mine.
@MrAuhue
Жыл бұрын
Fk8 is jdm
@canasian6975
Жыл бұрын
The FK8 was manufactured in Swindon, England, so no, it isnt JDM. The FL5 is manufactured in Yorii, Japan. The K20C1 however, was and still is made in Ohio.
@yohobo722
Жыл бұрын
@@canasian6975 jdm is not where it's manufactured, jdm is if it's for the Japanese specific market regardless of build location
Dealerships kills the experience
Awesome car, thanks for sharing 👍
Chris Harris said it best with the classic hot hatch being dead. It's either super luxury/super performance German hatchbacks for £60k then this sits below that...or warm hatches like at Focus St...which is still £30k
I'm glad these came out so the fk8's are cheaper :)
The graphics and shift lights look good.
@nollienick1121
Жыл бұрын
I think so to. But they have to pick on stupid shit.
Honestly, i cant wait to add this next to my g80 m3. Always had a passion for the old type r 's especially now that it is produced in Japan again.
Great review. Love mine so far after a mpnth and 1200 miles. Excellent build quality.
@jj6392
6 ай бұрын
How do you feel about it now? Good purchase?
This is a really decent edition (episode? vid? piece?). Lots of good elements: good structure and sequencing of key points; good editing; good script (if O.M. didn't actually deliver this as a stream-of-conscious-thought); good tempo and expression of emotion. More of this really tasty work, thanks! 🙂👍
@YutakaYamagishi
Жыл бұрын
absolutely agree.
@sergiosaunier
Жыл бұрын
Ollie Marriage is underrated as a knowledgeable, entertaining presenter.
The BEST MANUAL TRANSMISSION and the best driving ergonomics. That's what civic type R is known for. If those things don't matter to you, then it isn't the car for you
Happy Birthday #civicTypeR 25 years of love ♥️♥️♥️
Can’t wait to get mine in Feb.
good luck getting one near MSRP in America. Lousy dealerships have it marked up $20k-$30k over MSRP making it a poor value
Thank you for the video 😁
"ABSOLUTE MASTERPIECE!" ❤
I like the length of the car and I like how wide it is and I like the ride height as well. I also want to say that I love the fast back styling even though it has 4 doors. I did not like the previous generation of Type R at all. The previous generation, to me, just seems like a car that was trying to stand out and be flashy and appeal to all of those Honda modding enthusiasts. The previous generation also felt like it was trying way too hard to compete with the Subaru STI and copied a lot of styling off of that. On the 2023 car I really like the simplistic styling while still having a race car aesthetic to it also just like the styling of the spoiler on the hatch and I was surprised to find out that it is a hatch as well. I legitimately think this is the first Honda Civic I have ever genuinely liked other than the 81 Honda Civic, which is the best car ever made. It’s a really cool looking car and it looks modern, but it also looks like it can be an every day driver for anybody and I like that although the spoiler takes away a bit of the sleeper aspect of the car but overall I really like the car.
É bom ver um review da top gear em Portugal... grande máquina este novo Type R
@rappergenerico
Жыл бұрын
Adoro ver reviews em Portugal. Temos estradas maravilhosas!
@Ricardo99927
Жыл бұрын
Mesmo
@sectorforall1760
Жыл бұрын
Até eu que sou brasileiro gosto 😅
@mvnorsel6354
Жыл бұрын
Good luck in the football.
@henryviiifake8244
Жыл бұрын
You guys have great roads! 😭
It looks so good sliding in the rain
This Accord Type R looks great!
This is one of my favourite Honda Civics of all time, and that's really saying something
@sujithmandody6545
Жыл бұрын
Really ? Doesn't the design seem very....generic ? Which is the last word I'd usually use to describe a Honda Civic. I mean just look at the last 3 generations of Civics - you'd have to be blind in one eye and have severe cataract in the other to mistake those models for anything else on the road. But this one....
@theweeknd2725
Жыл бұрын
@@sujithmandody6545 In Person you'll forget what you said, Even wider than the last civic (which was already wide & mean) well designed, low to the ground, this is a very cool car and on the road it does look incredible!
@sujithmandody6545
Жыл бұрын
@@theweeknd2725 I understand what you're saying. It does look cool.No doubt. But just not Civic level of cool. The benchmark is just way too high in my mind. I mean the facelifted 8th gen Civic was a class apart and one of (if not THE) best generations of Civic there is. And lets not even get to the fact that this gen bears too much of a resemblance to the Accord. Which is a big no-no. Just my opinion. I really wish they'd given it more of a distinctive look. Maintained the Civic identity.
@theweeknd2725
Жыл бұрын
@@sujithmandody6545 Yeah that hatchback civic type r was quite popular I must say, people modded it tuned it, must be a lovely car when it came out - and the compact size was perfect against it's rivals like megane rs mk6 golf gti (iconic gti) and others. I remember watching recently a Top gear lap of that type r, and it was the quickest from any of its rival hot hatches so that's pretty sick.
@sujithmandody6545
Жыл бұрын
@@theweeknd2725 I wasn't really referring to the hatchback Civic. I was referring to the sedan 8th gen. The FD2 version. Check it out.
Unbelievable! As good as a GT4 hey? What a review!
@g0d182
Жыл бұрын
People also said similar things about fk8 compared to GT4 kzread.info/dash/bejne/hIap2ZaAgaerdag.html
Keep it up, Ollie!
Nice corner drifting of this Civic FL5R👍
If it was 48k in the USA I’d buy it in a heartbeat. We’re getting markups up to 70k
@groundhabit6408
Жыл бұрын
Just give it some time … I know you and many want it now , but in time it will come down like the Fk8 did and more aftermarket support will be rolling out by that time.
@theshow0024
Жыл бұрын
@Pierce Marfil dealership been looking for some time and cheapest I can find is 10k markup and for that price I’m ordering a bronco.
@BeanieNinjay0
Жыл бұрын
@@groundhabit6408it’ll be a very long time. Problem is there is an over abundance of mor0ns willing to pay the large markups.
@groundhabit6408
Жыл бұрын
@@BeanieNinjay0 won’t be long at all … with the integra s dropping next summer they will lower the civic R just to get them out the door
@tumsfestival8027
Жыл бұрын
@Pierce Marfil where? USA is huge. I’m in ca and from what I’ve seen in NorCal it’s like 65-70j
Brilliant review, even breathing the name Cayman GT4 in the same sentence proves this car is a winner.
@g0d182
Жыл бұрын
People also said similar things about fk8 compared to GT4 kzread.info/dash/bejne/hIap2ZaAgaerdag.html
@fiachamp
Жыл бұрын
I have both an FK8 and 718 GT4. And can say that even though the GT4 is faster, more compliant, etc, I never feel disappointed to drive the Type R. It is possibly the best daily drivable track car ever.
@g0d182
Жыл бұрын
@@fiachamp Thanks for the experience expression!!
As serious as a GT4!😮💨 Proud.
Great car, great video, great track, great country :)
They are making too few, so dealers are playing waaay too many games. $90k for a Civic in Canada?! No way.
The Hot hatch environment for Honda didnt start with the ep3. What about the legendary ek9? The dc2r is also a hatch. The EF chassis is a good shout too. What qualifiers do you use to determine what is a hot hatch?
In Australia it cost 72600 driveaway. Which is about 37200 pounds. Its so sad to see it 10000 pounds more expensive in the UK compared to Australia. But im glad to be here. Waiting for my delivery.
@johnr3150
3 ай бұрын
About the same price here in New Zealand. Quite tempted but I do like cheaper Civic 1.5 turbo sport which looks just as good for about 30K less.
I’m a sales exec for Honda. Each dealership only got 1 to sell on the first release, anyone who is after get your interest in now with your dealer and you might get a chance at the second release in March!
Hot hatch? That thing is huge
I love the new looks
I love that 4cyl turbo engine in my RDX.
American definition of a hatchback.
@TheFK8Life
Жыл бұрын
My US Type R has 640bhp - brits sre slow
@Pirustae
Жыл бұрын
@@TheFK8Life your modified Type R
@Pirustae
Жыл бұрын
It's from the Japs
@TheFK8Life
Жыл бұрын
@@Pirustae No shit lol
I love this car and was third in line to get one at my dealership. Shame I’ll never get one as Honda UK won’t supply enough. Joke!!
@n0xf0x17
Жыл бұрын
I was fourth in line…….dealership got just 1. Just plain sad.
"it's an absolute masterpiece" wow
02 Rear Seats I’m so glad you addressed the “elephant” in the room… With it’s size there’s no excuse for only 4seats considering the price and product marketing as “grown up”.
I love the look of this version, subtle and clean. I wonder if the boot spoiler can be removed and a replaced with a lip for a cleaner look
@ramcoyannix8861
Жыл бұрын
agree, just wait for aftermarket parts, can't wait to see some cool modifications of this gen
@src248
Жыл бұрын
The Acura version doesn't have the spoiler
@amirulnazreen1518
Жыл бұрын
Dont do that to type R, keep it stock 😭 , you will ruin the beauty
@ramcoyannix8861
Жыл бұрын
@@amirulnazreen1518 everyone got their own taste, but I'm glad that there are purist like you who will keep the heritage pure, stock, and clean.
@maplefreak64
Жыл бұрын
Need black seat option. If this were my car, I would also remove the large monitor.
The first point he makes is basically my biggest issue with it. It's not really a hatch. Yes it has a hatch style boot but the body shape is not that of a hatchback. It's really a small/mid size saloon but with an extended boot lid.
@jerm_
Жыл бұрын
Its more of a sportback than a hatch
@madmugen888
Жыл бұрын
Call it what you want, the reality is, for lots of people it’s a really usable and practical space.
Exactly the only type r that doesn't feel off for me, coz the wide body makes you confident and the tail lights that's my cup of coffee simply monstrous and elegant unlike the fk8!
Honda makes great manuals. Wicked car that R
I remember when the civic type R was £16k 😔
@khalidsti2559
Жыл бұрын
Ep3
This would be perfect daily and fast car, if not for the markup and availability. √ child seats fit √ road trip and Costco worthy cargo space √ fuel economy of an older economy car, like a regular Civic from a decades ago.
The dealer here in PA just sold theirs for $13k markup. $56k for a civic is just robbery.
It's crazy money
Everyone saying it needs AWD doesn’t realize it doesn’t need AWD.
@williambellisIII
Жыл бұрын
100%. Only for lame 0-60 times.
@Silverwarhawk
Жыл бұрын
Enjoy torque steer bro
@Spikestriple
Жыл бұрын
@@Silverwarhawk tell me you never driven a Type R without telling me you never driven a Type R.
@disco.lemonade
Жыл бұрын
@@Silverwarhawk Tell me you've never driven a fk8 or a fl5 type r without telling me
@turboshottho
Жыл бұрын
@@williambellisIII that’s the least of it
Civic Accord type R... it's honkin big..
@ThrottleBody
Жыл бұрын
Literally 3cm longer and wider than the last gen 😴
I was just thinking about it Cris Harris car of the year 🤩
WOW ! ! ! ! ! AWESOME AMAZING SUPERB ! ! ! ! !
New dream attainable car for me. Yes the price is up, but spec a golf r up with the bits you want and you’re easily over the 50k mark. Plus it’s all about the monthly payments. No doubt it will hold its value well too. It’s unlike any other hot hatch in the class anyway so it can’t really be compared. If I’m getting more size and space for my money I don’t see it as a bad thing at all.
@nazarpredatorak
Жыл бұрын
The thing is, compared to previous gen it costs like 15k more for basically some small chasis and engine tuning, and design restyling..
@ThrottleBody
Жыл бұрын
@@nazarpredatorak as with every other new hot hatch. Furthermore, more has been done than that. The civic as a whole is a much more complete car than the previous gen. The interior is a massive step as well. It isn’t crazy when you look at everything else on offer at the moment. It’s just the times we live in. Nobody thought you would ever be able to spend 50k on a golf or 70k on an a3 but here we are 😂 fourth more, the golf and a3 have actually got worse in terms of build quality when compared to their previous generations.
I want one so bad but the dealer markup on these are crazy. Saw one go for around 65k.
@104copyTHAT
Жыл бұрын
I’m convinced these would still sell at 100k.
@BrzBoyz831
Жыл бұрын
80k right now so it’s getting there late 😂😅
For anyone who complained about FL5's price, know that Honda has technically already sold every single one they will make in the next couple of years before dealer mark-up or market adjustments wherever which is legal, so the market has spoken: it is not over priced. In fact, I think Honda could have set a higher MSRP and still see no impact on sale numbers.
Same size as my 1991 Volvo 740 Turbo Wagon!!! (and people thought my volvo wagon was too big. At least my 740 Turbo wagon is smaller than a modern Mustang GT).
Great review, love the car, such an improvement 👍🏻 but that price is very hard to swallow, even as a die hard honda fan boy, I'm struggling to go for it just out of principle..... £52k specced up 😬 urgh
@alsayedfakhri4597
Жыл бұрын
It's 47k fully specced. I think only an exterior carbon pack and illuminated sills are available as accessories.
@JacesOwnWorld
Жыл бұрын
@@alsayedfakhri4597 nobody will be able to buy this for $47k. Try $60k+. I’ll pass and go buy a much faster and much nicer RS3, as you can buy them just over $60k new.
@celliott16
Жыл бұрын
@@alsayedfakhri4597 nah, I got mine to just over £52k on the configurator.
@alsayedfakhri4597
Жыл бұрын
@@celliott16I ran through the spec list and the only cost option was the paint colour. If you're paying Honda for accessories, then you're doing it wrong! Aftermarket will be much cheaper for illuminated door sills and a carbon pack.
@celliott16
Жыл бұрын
@@alsayedfakhri4597 have you been on the honda UK configurator? There's a fair few interior and exterior options available.
It needs a manual handbrake! Its a FWD hot hatch so it needs to have it.
@TheBasher-_-
Жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert: It's not really that Hot lol.
@actontreadway1168
Жыл бұрын
definitely.
This car looks so good
Very nice
The size complaint is spot on. The civic was the “compact” king.
@theweeknd2725
Жыл бұрын
I think a bigger size stands out differently then the rivals, you literally get more space, comfort and a larger sized car which looks mean & performs mean. Civic stands out and looks great comparatively, I wouldn't want to choose a golf if this beast was next to it..
the only problem is that you could get at 718 cayman for the same price
Waiting for mine! Rrrrr
Cool to see a new hot hatch on the market, and a competent one at that. Exterior is cool and more subtle, but the interior is pretty underwhelming for a sporty car with that kind of price tag
£48k is a joke.
@trueseeker262
Ай бұрын
Thats because your broke!
@Savethemanuals94
Ай бұрын
Your intelligence is mind boggling
@davidsimpson7050
Ай бұрын
They sold out so price looks right to me
@nessuno5403
15 күн бұрын
Don't cry if you can't have it
@peytonbratanch9183
11 күн бұрын
guess i’m a joke for buying a red one
Nice car... I like that it's more toned down on the styling side, its just far too expensive for a fwd hot 'hatch' though..... It's also a shame that its slower in a straight line than the old one. Can't see a lot of these being sold.
@ThrottleBody
Жыл бұрын
Lol. They will sell.
@BigBear--
Жыл бұрын
You're joking right? Every single one is basically sold either as soon as or before it arrives at dealers. That's why dealers can throw a 20-25K markup over MSRP and people are still buying. A lot of the dealers around me in the Northeastern US are basically starting bid wars between the customers. Ppl are willing to fly across the country to pick theirs up, if they could find one.
@paulhope3401
Жыл бұрын
@@BigBear-- Wow.. I didn't know that. That's surprising for me.
@BigBear--
Жыл бұрын
@@paulhope3401 the car is a legendary hero car. Its, limited production, with each car being numbered (numbered plate on the FK8 was by the shifter, with the new FL5 it's on the passenger side dash). It will have a lower world production volume overall than the previous generation, and it's the first time in a long time that Type-R production was moved back to Japan. It's also likely the last all gas engine Type-R. I'm not even talking about just how good the car is mechanically, or dynamically to drive. There's reasons people are going crazy for them.
@DiaperSNiFFER
Жыл бұрын
@@paulhope3401 0-60 is the same as the old one if you get traction to the front wheels 🛞 🛞 0-100 is in 4.9seconds
Talking about a hot hatch... A GR Yaris definitely fits the bill! Thirty something thousand pounds wouldn't buy you four doors, a rear wiper, 4 full size seats and a big boot, but forty - fifty thousand pounds will!
Honda is love
How can this be a hatch when it’s massive
@alphatrion100
Жыл бұрын
Its a hatchback. A hot hatchback. Simple
@kimi17147
Жыл бұрын
@@alphatrion100 so I a VW aerton then
@alphatrion100
Жыл бұрын
@@kimi17147 yes that's basically a hatchback too. Its not a sedan. Its not a coupé. Its a hatchback but in the e-segment. Civics have grown EVERY generation. My 2011 type R is HUGE compared to the 1976 civic.
@ThrottleBody
Жыл бұрын
Cars get bigger. They always have. And you get the extra space that comes with it. It looks a lot better for it as well.
@TheFK8Life
Жыл бұрын
Easily - it has a hatch
£47k though before options for a FWD car. That’s nearly new A45S, RS3, M2C money! I’ll stick with my GR Yaris thanks that is quicker in real world conditions. I do prefer the look of this though over the previous gen CTR
@ricchrono5907
Жыл бұрын
I prefer the yaris😊
@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536
Жыл бұрын
@@ricchrono5907 I prefer my legs.
@ricchrono5907
Жыл бұрын
@@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536 totally🤣
@johnlo4952
Жыл бұрын
I got the first batch FL5 allocation last week, pulled out and is going to pick up my new GR Yaris two weeks later.
@mugenmark
Жыл бұрын
@@johnlo4952 congrats! You won’t be disappointed. It’s honestly like a mini GTR
I think you will find there is 4 Seats in the fk2 and fk8 so u can only carry 2 passengers in the back any way
Om, ini pakai plat Sukabumi ya? Depannya F.
Save 11k and buy the old one as it's the same car. Or about 2k more and get a vastly superior Supra. Crazy pricing!
@mugenmark
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Save your money and just buy an FK8 and some fancy coilovers and a remap and stickier rubber and still be quids in.
@UTubeSL
Жыл бұрын
@@mugenmark Good shout.
@UTubeSL
Жыл бұрын
Agree. Barmy pricing.
@gw4886
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, try carrying u friends and family in supra.
@rdmz135
Жыл бұрын
The Civic can replace your family car. A Supra cannot.
Thank you for mentioning how stupid and cheap it is for this car to have center seat mounted cup holders rather than a third rear seat. It’s my biggest complaint about this car. Every other 11th Gen Civic has three seats. Christ, my 2007 Civic Si Coupe has three seats in the back!
@noirrain6005
Жыл бұрын
My main complain besides the one you cited is the lack of spare tires.
Switched off at £47k. 5 years of paying over £500 road tax per year on top, for a Honda Civic. I cannot wait for my bus pass.
Honda should put out a Touring version of the Type R (like the GT3 / GT3 Touring), for a more subtle look wihout that rear wing.
Love the new car...design is light years better than the last...wish it was a three door actual hot hatch but I'm getting SAAB vibes from the design...fantastic
As a father of three, the CTR 4-seater situation is just a no-go for me, at least at this stage in life. Such a bummer!
@fermillo65
Жыл бұрын
I own a FN2 type R and it's the same. 4 seats, 4 seatbelts. No idea why they do it, it's not like that space in the middle of the back seat is used for anything. If it was a 4wd and they needed that space in the floor for the driveshaft I'd understand, but as a traditional fwd, why are they doing it?
@stevethomas760
Жыл бұрын
Well, the GR Corolla says it will sit five. I'm thinking five grocery bags. It's about the size of my '05 WRX hatch.
Idk it looks like it's newest version of FN generation, the FK generation was really cool at sharp lines
Imma get this when i get the chance
Shame about the price. I certainly can't afford nearly 50 grand on a car and if I could im not sure I'd be looking at a hot hatch.
@ThrottleBody
Жыл бұрын
That’s the sort of price of most of the best ones now unfortunately.
@andy00grant
Жыл бұрын
@Lawrence Garikaiy yeah it's a bit ridiculous when you can spec a 'hot hatch' to 70k plus in some cases.
@justbigjets7633
Жыл бұрын
Buy fk8 instead for 25k . Last proper type r they made