Got around to doing this today. Your video was a great help. Couple of points: 1- The JT sprocket I got did have the rubber surround despite the Aussie website's image and part number. 2- My 2014 500X has the foot peg bracket much more forward (which blocks the plastic sprocket cover) but easy enough to remove the 2 x 8mm hex bolts 3- The chain tensioner system is different - but works on the same tension nut/lock nut setup so easy enough to mark the nuts and back off 8 turns like you did. 4- The rear wheel alignment system is also different to your bike. I didn't check the alignment marks before I started as I only recently got new tyres but after carefully rotating the nuts the same both sides, I could see looking down the chain from the rear sprocket it wasn't straight. It wasn't a big deal to adjust one nut 1-2/6ths of a turn to get both side markings aligned. Eyeing the chain with a ruler looked much more flush afterwards. Your bike's alignment system looks easier to me. 5- The extra tooth took my chain stretch guide back about 4mm. I was 20% into the green but now same distance back into the white. 6- My speedo (European model I believe in Aus) is now spot on..like +- 1km/h to my GPS apps. Brilliant! Taking her for a spin.. it really makes a difference to me as a 100% road bike! I get out of the intersection now before changing into 2nd and the engine note sounds sweeter as each gear plays out a little longer and the bike doesn't run out of legs as quick. No highway speeds yet but will report back on any cons. Cheers again!

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

Hello from UK. Brilliant comment and will help others with different models I suspect. I’m definitely never going back to 15 tooth. Just completed 1300 mile trip to Scotland, quite a bit of motorway cruising, it’s just better in every department. I guess Honda have that very low first gear for offfroad use, but I use this bike only for road so it’s nice to have 6 road gears. Yes my chain went into the white also. But I think it’ll soon be back in the green as it’s a bit of a budget chain, at least compared to my 690 Enduro R which hardly ever needs adjusting. We did recheck the chain alignment at the end (didn’t show in video as it was already too long, in this case it was fine, but then it had just come back from first service and the dealer said it’d been adjusted so it was good it worked out just by counting). Great feedback - cheers! 👍👍

This was an absolutely great how to video 😊😊

@CodgerBiker

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching 👍

First comment from the US...I'd love a 22+ CB500X after your videos.

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

Morning! Yes it's really grown on me as I get it how I want it. Adaptable bike 👍

I did the same thing on my 2019 Honda CB650R when it was new 4 years ago and 10k later, I'm never going back! The bike's still an animal when reved but it has that lovely 'serenity' at lower rpm's. As you mentioned, the speed you see is what you're doing, so the indicated speed is the actual speed you're travelling at and in 6th the engine feels rather distressed. Great mod, would recommend it to anyone!

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

Only thing I can’t fathom is why Honda didn’t do it in the first place. I like it. It is staying 👍👍

@RayLombardi

Жыл бұрын

@@CodgerBiker My theory is that many people may prefer the oomph and eagerness the bike has with 15 teeth. I personally found it tiresome. So 16 teeth is the way to go for me and that oomph is still there, we just need to rev the engine marginally more.

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

I agree on all points. It's staying 16t 👍

In order to jam the chain so you can remove the bolt on the front sprocket put a rag between the rear sprocket and the chain. When it gets jammed in between the wheel will stop.

Just seen the video. I've 25k miles on my CB500X with a 16t front sprocket,it's a great mod for those who like me don't ride off road,it reduces top speed which is no hardship as the fastest I get to is an occasional 80mph,motorway cruising at 70/75mph is now much better and a boon for me as I use the m/ways for 30 to 70mile per ride. 1st and 2nd are now more useable and third and fourth better on 30/40mph roads,and I find the bike's upped gearing better in the twisties. The only difference as hilighted in the video is for fast acceleration over 50mph you need to drop a cog from 6th to 5th but the bike isn't a power or toque monster after all. I find fuel consumption with the 16t is usually between 80 to 90mpg imperial,which drops to mid 70s mpg on long m/way trips. EDIT:- BTW I did file a mm or two off the chain guard when I fitted my 16t just to give it a little more clearance,but theapt said I know of many who don't.

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

Brilliant. I 100% concur in the 2500+ miles I've done so far. I hummed and ahed about filing it but it has been fine so far 🤞 Really appreciate the feedback, nice to have it confirmed 👍👍

I have a Voge 525DSX. The standard Front Sprocket is a 15T, but I found the gearing a bit short, so I changed it to a 16T. Finally, the 1st gear is usable and you only put 6th gear, when you already reached 110-120-130 kph in order to cruise. There is no change at the speedometer, since the measurement is done by the ABS and the rotations on the front wheel, so the declination between the GPS and the digital speedometer remains the same (around 8-9%). All I need to do is 2-3 fuel ups, to see if there is any difference to the fuel consumption, although on my first fuel up the consumption was significantly lower (around 0.7-0.8 litres per 100 kilometers).

So is your conclusion that the upgrade is worth doing. Nice logical work through by the way.

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

If you don't need the 'off-road' 1st gear then, on balance, yes it is. I rode up to Scotland, mainly motorway, and 6th was lovely and relaxed for distance riding. 👍

Worth while mod bud 👌🏻

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

For my use it's deffo better 👍

If you get less buzz in the footpegs from 60-75mph. And a more usefull first gear. Then it sounds like a great thing to do. Would also be interesting to see if Average fuel consumption have gone up or down. Thanks for another great video.

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

It seems about the same 70-80 UK mpg depending on the riding. It's a frugal engine 👍

Great Video but would like to knot the rev difference between the 15T vs 16T. Going to see if I can get the sprocket here in Canada, if so will be doing the swap. Thanks for the video, well worth watching. I just picked up my CB500X a moth ago and have over 1500 km on it and loving it. I put the GIVI wind screen on it because with a open face helmet was getting to much buffing around the helmet, was very annoying. but no buffing at all with the taller GIVI screen.

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

It’s about 10% lower revs. More than that it gives you a more road focused 1st gear. It all depends what you want. This is my road bike so it is so much better for me, also shifts the vibes to speeds I don’t tend to ride. It might not suit everyone. I think that first gear is low geared for offroad work. I have a 690 Enduro R for that - Curiously I always think its 1st gear is too high. So it depends what you like to do. I have a Puig screen to try sometime. I’ve used them in the past with success on other bikes. Overall I rate this bike. Great value (relatively anyway) and adaptable. Thanks for watching! 👍

@Tonyx.yt.

4 ай бұрын

​@@CodgerBikerhow can be 10% lower revs if from 15 to 16 is +6.6% ? Another channel reported 10% gps speed but i dont understand how is possible, on my previous motorcycle, cb300r i went from 14 to 15 so 7% increase and the GPS speed went up by exactly 7% indeed

If you're never planning to going trail riding down the odd green lane then YES do it😉but i do love green laning, so i won't be changing it, but i can see the logic for it. good vid👍

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it’s just an option for touring I think. I have a 690 Enduro R for trails so it works for me. 👍👍

@ifindoubtbailout70

Жыл бұрын

@@CodgerBiker I'm jealous of the 690R🤣yeah I'm looking long term to get something smaller for trails, & then I'll probably look into doing the sprocket change for mine, so that it's better for touring🙃mine is currently the best of both world's, just a bit too heavy for serious knarly trails🤣😉

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

Yes it’s ironic in that I wish the 690 1st gear was as low as the 500x. So I might change the sprocket on that, but in the other direction one day. I prefer to trundle rather than rip these days. It hurts less if it goes wrong 😉😂👍

Well I’ve just fitted this today and went for a quick 30 min spin and at the moment I’m pretty much on the fence as to whether it’s a good thing or not. Definitely has much longer legs but doesn’t feel as peppy as before. Will have to suck it and see for a while.

@CodgerBiker

10 ай бұрын

I agree it definitely depends on how you plan to use the bike, zipping round town, or longer distance. That said it goes ok if you just hold onto a gear a bit longer. Good luck 👍

I was thinking of doing this will wait for an update before I do.

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

Hello. Well I did 1500 miles since, motorway up to Scotland, then all over Scotland on all types of roads. Then home down the motorway. It's staying, mine is a road bike, now it feels like one 👍

@deanwelsh5702

Жыл бұрын

@@CodgerBiker I only bought mine for shopping but they wouldn’t let me ride it round Aldi so I will take your word for it and save up for a few months so I can afford a bigger ⚙️.

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

Ha ha! It's a great bike 😉👍

Love my 500X but the short first gear as a 100% road bike is my only gripe. Not second guessing Honda at all but running out of legs before the intersection is cleared is what I hope the 16T will address. Have ordered the JT 16T (no rubber version for some reason down here) so thanks for the video. My cats couldn't care less chilling on my lap but what do they know? Cheers from down under!

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

I think it's low geared for faux offroad use, but I only use it on road and I find it much better. Ironically the 1st gear on my KTM 690 Enduro R I find too tall offroad. Meow to the cats, they know more than they let on 😉👍👍

I had a V-Strom 1000. In my area it was common to get caught in gridlock for many hours where there wasn't an alternative route. After hours of stop and go and creeping along it was an absolute misery due to the tall gearing and the endless clutch work needed. On my 500F, I could tick along slowly using that low first gear with very little clutch work . No more cramped up clutch hand or pumped up arm. The stock 500 gearing has its uses if you have to deal with really heavy traffic frequently. Why not lane split? It's not allowed here. Just as well when you consider how well people pay attention here when they change lanes.

@CodgerBiker

6 ай бұрын

I agree. It all depends on the riding needs. Sprocket change is fine tuning. It sounds like the V-Strom could have been improved with, maybe, one tooth down to suit that environment. 👍

Excellent modification review & tutorial. Can you advise if the 16t has any effect on the ABS function. Like making it flash or anything? I'm seriously considering the 16t as I'm only on road. I even have been on Michelin Road 5's on mine for 6,500 miles. Thanks for the shared information and insight.

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

I’ve not noticed anything. But next ride I’ll give it a try and see if it still flashes under harsh braking. 👍 And yes I’m going Road 6 or similar once these tyres are done. This bike is easy to underestimate in the corners and will embarrass one or two ‘better’ bikes 😉

@findingneutral

Жыл бұрын

@@CodgerBiker Awesome. It is a great bike on the hardtop roadways and runs with the best. I was thinking the ABS would fault I guess since it does that on the CT125 going down a tooth ABS wise.

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

I've not noticed anything. Nor heard any issues from others. But will give it some hard braking next time I get out to see if it still flashes rear indicators. I wish the CT125 Trail was available over here. 👍

@findingneutral

Жыл бұрын

@@CodgerBiker Cool. Great to hear. I think it would have acted up from the beginning so no test required for me. You covered that question and much appreciated. Yes, Honda definitely should be selling those your way. Makes no sense to me.

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

Glad you asked. I'd not thought about it. Always a possibility in anything to overlook something - appreciated 👍

Great vid. Thank you. Could you please tell me what revs your now doing at 80mph in 6th ?

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

I'll do an update at some point...

Hi Codger, another excellent TMJ and good to see Dr Winner John making a come back. He didn't seem to do much apart from putting the boot in so in your WHAM duo he must be Andrew Ridgeley to your George Michael. Just don't stop at any public toilets!

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

Ah but we adopt the position of Inspector when the other comes up with a job. The idea is to sew doubt, create issues and generally be sniffy about anything the other thinks is a good idea. If confidence survives this trial by scepticism then the first stage of testing is achieved before the bike gets anywhere near the road. I believe Wham used a similar technique on their early songs. Ridgeley, of course, gained no credit for his role in pointing out that Wham Rap! was actually crap. Time may yet come to recognise his true genius, similarly Dr J Winner. 😉👍

@kalamityken3416

Жыл бұрын

@@CodgerBiker You sound like you could be a married couple. 🤭

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

😫

I ride the same surface, with very little dirt... so this piqued my interest.... Also, I have not seen those CB Racing covers available as I live in Thailand... what are they? Is it protective or more cosmetic? I originally wanted to install lower crash bars, but having a time of it trying to get the right match from the original company.

@CodgerBiker

11 ай бұрын

Hello. This is my road bike. I also have a KTM 690 Enduro R for offroad. I therefore chose road orientated crash cover protection. Usually used on race bike to protect the clutch and stator cases in the event of a slide down the road. Much lighter than crash bars. I'm aiming to keep this bike light as possible. It's not the fastest road bike but corners pretty well I think. With these type of covers it is necessary to remove and clean behind from time-to-time, in my experience. There will be a video soon 👍

Hi, like your videos a lot. I have 22 cb500x and love it, 36k km on it now. Just wondering where did you get the service manual??

@CodgerBiker

3 ай бұрын

Thank you. Much appreciated! The paper manual I got from eBay USA. Didn't seem to be available in UK. There was pdf version for earlier models on the various CB500x forums. Much is common acrosd the years. 👍

@TheTonicro

3 ай бұрын

@@CodgerBiker thx, I'll find a pdf. Shipping from usa to Croatia is enormous.

@CodgerBiker

3 ай бұрын

Good luck. Pdf = free 👍👍

what the difference with stock one and the 16tooth sproket please did the motor rev less at 60 mille hour

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

Revs less. Better first gear. Fewer vibrations. Better for road travel. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXeKo7Ktd5fbqrA.html

i think its great but can you still power wheelie from a stop :) ?

@CodgerBiker

4 ай бұрын

Certainly. I just sit on the carrier. 👍

Hi there, I was wondering where you obtained your Honda cb500x 2023, Honda workshop manual from? Kind regards

@CodgerBiker

4 ай бұрын

Difficult to get in UK as not sold here. I tried to buy from USA, but they would not ship abroad. In the end I watched eBay until one showed up. There are PDF versions for earlier models on the forums if you ask. 👍

Perhaps unrelated question - are the GB Racing engine covers any good?

@CodgerBiker

9 ай бұрын

See here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/k5ulm5JydprTm8o.html I've had them on for around 3000 miles. 👍

Better quality swingarm than my NC750X !!

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

I think they altered it just a bit. Probably cosmetic 👍

HI, WHERE DID YOU GET THE SERVICE MANUAL?

@CodgerBiker

Ай бұрын

Ebay USA

Did you consider a 40T rear instead. Would not have been as drastic a ratio change?

@CodgerBiker

3 ай бұрын

I did. But this way it was easier to keep chain in tact. Worked for me. 👍

@dougiverson4297

3 ай бұрын

Not sure what you mean by keeping the chain intact. You can remove the back wheel, slip the chain onto the chain guard, put on the 40T sprocket and reinstall. In fact, I think it is easier to do the rear than the front, especially with the center stand.

@CodgerBiker

3 ай бұрын

Well it worked fine for me. I was much happier with it. A quick fix also…

A mechanic told me that Instead reduce the rear by 1 or 2 teeth. This will have a lesser effect than adding 1 tooth in the front. Less drastic and more of a middle path and highly preffered by some. However the old loose chain might need some tightening Once the rear looses a few tooth. And some simply time it with a chain change. What dya think?

@CodgerBiker

9 ай бұрын

Funnily enough I had same conversation when I pulled into a service station recently. Personally I’m happy with the 16 tooth solution for me. The UK speedo now reads 100% accurate. The bike has a nicer 6th gear to cruise UK motorways, which tend to be policed at 70mph with cameras everywhere. The mod is relatively easy with no need to cut the chain. So it depends on personal circumstance. I like that I could put it back to stock in an hour if I so choose. Well that is my thoughts on UK roads. 👍

@vspatmx7458

9 ай бұрын

@@CodgerBiker True buddy. Ur solution works for u in ur country. Why fix whixh ain't broke. Happy riding And have a super healthy wealthy blissful life ahead.

@CodgerBiker

9 ай бұрын

I forgot to add cheap too! Thanks for comments, much appreciated. Ride safe! 👍

@vspatmx7458

9 ай бұрын

@@CodgerBiker ♥️

@DJRonification

2 ай бұрын

The more teeth on the front sprocket the better from the point of view of wear. This sprocket because of the small number of teeth will wear out before the rear or chain. It will then damage the chain.

Hi.Where did you get the service manual? What is the part number of it?

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

Could not get one in UK. USA dealers would not post. Luckily one came up on eBay, so I snapped it up, from USA.

@DBAUG

Жыл бұрын

@@CodgerBiker There should be a Honda part number on it. Can you upload it please?

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

61mkp50

Hi there ! What is the effect on mileage after changing to 16t. Does it increase or decrease the overall mileage than previous 15t on cb500x ?

@CodgerBiker

6 ай бұрын

Hello. What do you mean by mileage? If you mean fuel consumption I did not really notice any difference. This bike will do 80mpg at a steady 60mph all day. As for the speedometer, it put the MPH for UK precisely accurate with the GPS speeds.

@The_futuredoc01

6 ай бұрын

@@CodgerBiker yeah fuel consumption. It is increased or decreased than 15 t ?

@CodgerBiker

6 ай бұрын

No noticeable difference for me. 75-80 mpg (UK gallons) depending on riding style

@nigelogden8518

3 ай бұрын

The mileage will alter. Decrease the mileage just a little as the speedo is from the gearbox.

I did mine and now the speedometer is off by about 10%. At 55 mph on the speedometer my GPS reads 62 mph.

@CodgerBiker

27 күн бұрын

Mine is a UK spec one. I think they vary. 👍

So overall has it been worth the effort and expense?

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

For me and my riding, yes. 👍

@rodpeters4177

Жыл бұрын

I had my Honda dealer change the sprocket on my 2019 CB500X when it was new. Noticeable improvement for everyday riding.

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

Makes 1st useable too 👍

Does this affect the odometer by any chance? Also how's the MPG before/after? Asking as I spend a lot of time on the motorway on my 500x and it isn't fantastic at that :)

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

Not noticed any difference on odometer compared to a 50 mile round trip today with DrJ on his triumph. Just the speedo now reads true. I did wonder myself so tested today, both bikes read about the same on trip meter. Fueling same 70-80+ UK mpg depending on the riding. On balance, I like it. 5th is nearly as 6th used to be.

sir,did u still keep the rear sprocket size(41T) @ have changed to another size?

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

Rear sprocket stock. 👍

Far too technical for me Bri, I'll stick with Lane Ends Engineering m8 😂 (click and collect Dave) 👍

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

Hi Dave! Was at the old J&S today. Glad you found it anyway 👍👍

What a faff.Down three teeth on the back.Leave the front alone.No speedo error,no fuss.

@CodgerBiker

5 күн бұрын

Disagree. 30 min job. Easy. Puts UK speedo spot on. 👍

8:10 i just use a caliper gauge

@CodgerBiker

5 ай бұрын

Good idea 👍

Definitely saved you a gear change 😂

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

Turbo Time! 😉👍

Great video, could you tell me where you got your 2022 service manual for the cb500x , I cannot find one anywhere. Cheers.

@CodgerBiker

Жыл бұрын

Really hard to get in UK. You can get them in USA, but they won't post here so you have to get someone with a US address to forward it. I almost gave up then one came up on eBay from USA, I snapped it up. Basically keep an eye on eBay is all I can suggest. 👍

@Dickihandyman-ru4mm

4 ай бұрын

They are not available in the UK as Honda charges dealers to access them online I purchased mine in the USA and had it delivered to a relative there, cost was around £70. Also just remember no Hiss on American models so wiring diagrams differ slightly@@CodgerBiker