My first road trip with Touring Hybrid . From Barrie Ontario to Burlington . Round trip : 270 km , 5.1 l/100 km ( 46.5 mpg) at 110 km/h (68 mph) . I am really happy with results. 😊😊 . Amazing silence, ACC system, and usability from multimedia

So I drove from Atlanta to Ontario just a week after i bought the 23 hybrid sport. That’s over 20hours with stops and all. I averaged about 46 mpg for that entire trip.

I’ve driven a couple Honda hybrids. And they don’t feel like hybrids, they feel like normal engines. That’s what i like about it, hybrid without feeling like one.

I am 3k miles into my 2023 Accord Sport and averaging 47mpg. I dont drive over 65mph.

I just got a 2023 Accord Sport and was averaging some wild numbers when driving in the hills at around 45 MPH. Like over 60 MPG. Using the regen braking paddles is huge.

I like the fact that you can get both the Camry and the Accord in hybrid. However I actually like last year's Accord body design better. For some reason this year looks like a Ford fusion and its simplicity.

@sierrasix4068

10 ай бұрын

* Ford Taurus

My 14 accord coupe v6 gets about 32-35mpg on long highway driving. Granted daily driving in the neighborhood im getting about 22-25mpg. Thanks for the vid, sorta puts the hybrid tech into perspective on highway driving

I previously owned a 2019 Accord Hybrid (base). Over 9,150 miles I averaged 50.3mpg and once managed to do 675 miles on a single tank (56.8mpg). You REALLY need to understand the mechanics of this car and HOW to drive it to get the most out of it. Using the regen paddles instead of brakes for all stopping activities makes a huge difference.

@shadscott469

Жыл бұрын

You are so right. I am on my second HAH and I am getting 47mpg in a 2023 Sport.

@jaysson1151

Жыл бұрын

I also noticed that wheel size has major affect on mpg. I was shopping around for a small car a few months ago, what I noticed on the Corolla hybrid for example, is the LE had 16” wheels and got 53 hwy while the SE hybrid with 17” wheels got 50 hwy, both according to EPA. The same with other brands and models. You want to squeeze out the most mpg, gonna have to spring for the base models or swap out wheels and tires. Edit: the video mentions wheel size at the end lol.

@TYPICALTRYHARD_

Жыл бұрын

​@@jaysson1151 I mean if you get the nicer car it's gonna be heavier because it has nicer stuff in general

@jaysson1151

Жыл бұрын

@@TYPICALTRYHARD_ yep, exactly!

@NakedBlastoise

11 ай бұрын

Okay grandma

i got 47mpg on the highway yesterday driving the speed limit mostly . on the way home i sped a bit and it dropped by a bit. if you dont speed and go the limit these hybrids do really well.

DM, It seems to me that a variety of Toyota Hybrid sedans achieved far better mpg results. While comparable with Honda around town, the Toyota Hybrid system has regularly proven itself to be more efficient at highway speeds.

@jeschr3462

Жыл бұрын

Toyota hybrids have larger hybrid batteries giving more boost and drivability at low speeds. Honda hybrid batteries are smaller and gives less boost at lower speeds thus making you use the motor more.

@jeschr3462

Жыл бұрын

Toyota hybrids are the best when it comes to hybrids. They did practically invent hybrids or popularized them. Its the typical Toyota vs Honda tradeoff debate playing out again with these new hybrids. With Toyota Hybrids you're definitely gonna get better MPG but with Honda hybrids, youre gonna get a quieter better handling ride with better quality interior and a more spacious ride. Its really a matter if which you prefer. As for me Hondas are the way to go. They're all around nicer except that Toyotas have them slightly beat with MPG and reliability.

@wyw201

Жыл бұрын

@@jeschr3462 I'd imagine the differences come from Toyota's eCVT hybrid setup vs Honda's i-MMD hybrid setup. Both companies have released engineering slides of their latest hybrid system and the operating principles are completely different.

@alessandronavarro8729

Жыл бұрын

Toyota hybrids do get better mpg however the Honda systems are much smoother and drive better in my opinion

@mostly_normal_man

Жыл бұрын

Honda systems are smoother and are designed for better mpg below 45 Mph rather than above 45 mpg. They had a choice to make and that is what they chose.

i drove mine 5000 miles … 47mpg combined with 70% city driving & 30% highway

Earlier this year I rented a 2022 Toyota Camry, NON Hybrid. No battery. On a 428 mile 90% highway trip I got 37.4 MPG.

I have the Sport-L trim and for the 1,600 miles I've driven, im averaging close to 46mpg and thats a mix of highway and city. Ive only owned it for 11 days so far and primarily do highway driving *7-17 update* 5,460 miles and getting 45.6 MPG

@RohanSanjith

Жыл бұрын

Rich man😂🎉

Incredible drive. 12 gallon tank. Range of about 420 miles with 30 in reserve? Wow! Wonder how it would fare with the A/C on? Thank you!!

Getting my Accord Hybrid Touring in Urban Gray Pearl really soon! Can't wait to start driving it. Huge upgrade from my old reliable daily!

Just got the accord exl hybrid.. Getting 55-60 mpg.... I get 70 mpg from my Prius a lot.. But this will do...

I consistently will get 35+ mpg on highway 70mph flats on the '14 V6. Often up to 37-38mpg. Best part too is punch the throttle down and do low 14 quarter mile times to confirm it's no slouch.

@ks1ngh27

Жыл бұрын

I have a '16 v6 sedan. It does 33-35 on the highway. Freaking amazing what Honda has done with the Accords. Miles better interior than the Camry as well. I have a 13' camry, it feels cheap.

I got the LX (base model) and currently doing 32 mpg combined and 40 mpg highway. Very satisfied with.

I have the 2023 Accord Hybrid Touring. I consistently get 45mpg. It's a mix of city and highway. I have not taken a long trip yet to see what it gets mostly on highway. Overall I'm very satisfied as my previous car was a Lexus and only got 26mpg on the highway.

@lionintu

Жыл бұрын

My 2014 civic ex-l averages like 33 on hwy

I have a 22 Si and drive 90 miles road trip for work, all toll roads interstate obviously. I do between 65-90 mph depending on cops and trucks. I’m at 25k and my mpg is 36.3. I love the design of the new accord hybrid and for some reason as I’ve entered the 2nd half of my 30s I care about fuel economy so this video was an eye opener. But then I read the comments and yes I feel with regen braking and not utilizing cruise control I can’t get closer to what Honda advertises. Also I wanted the Touring but yes the EX-L gives a 10% increase in fuel economy so looking at that as well. Thanks all

I wish all your gas mileage reviews would give a separate in town use. Almost ALL cars get their advertised mileage or better especially on cruise control at a lower speed. So the videos are never any surprise. The real story is in city mileage, THAT can be the big surprise! Maybe you’ll consider this for future videos?

I think this is the fastest I ever caught a new video being posted on one of my subscriptions - 54 seconds

i have a 2018 accord touring with the 1.5t and i can easily get 37mpg on the highway. and most of the time i actually get 40+mpg.

@Rockybalboa541

Жыл бұрын

You don’t get that in the city. That’s where hybrid smoke the ice

@omidnamin9004

17 күн бұрын

@@Rockybalboa541 I get around 25-30mpg in the city, but I also paid nearly 3g less for the car. so by the time you factor fuel saving vs the initial 3g in saving.... it becomes a toss up

THANKS for the Great MPG review. My 2023 Toyota Sienna LE gets 36-38 mpg, 75-80mph on a highway, 150mile drive, with two passengers. With 6 passengers, I get 34mpg. I have done it several times, even with 500 to 1000mile drive, I get the same result. I also have a Honda Accord Hybrid. Toyota's Hybrid technology is much different from Honda's. The problem with Honda's hybrid, you CAN'T really "cruise" on a highway. You have to keep your foot on the gas pedal all the time, otherwise, it will slow down. With Toyota's Hybrid, you can let go the the gas pedal and just let it cruise.

@aluisious

8 ай бұрын

The word you're thinking of is coast.

@hukmai

5 ай бұрын

Yeah toyota hybrid are generally more efficient because it always blending electric and ICE with the planetary gear set so even if you dog on it the variance isn't big. Hondas hybrid system is simple and efficient so long as the demands only use the electric motor. The variance is higher if you really push it because each of the parallel hybrid mode operate with a fixed clutch to drive the wheels ( low and high for 2023) with the electric motor. What's doublely unfortunate is when climbing high grades the engine will uncouple the clutches and shoot the rpm using the engine as a generator because the electric motor is offer more torque which is better for climbing

I've had several Honda hybrids (one Civic, four Accords) and I can say that a trained hybrid driver can get much better than 36 mpg in a modern Honda hybrid. Coasting is an essential skill to leverage momentum without accelerator and hard braking. I'm sure I could have topped 40 mpg with that Touring by using cruise control less and more dynamic accelerating/coasting when appropriate. I currently have a 2023 EX-L that is getting 45-48 in mixed driving in the city/highway. Looking forward to a road trip when i can truly test long drive mpg results.

@aluisious

8 ай бұрын

I've noticed the engine is on much more in my Camry hybrid when using cruise control than when I'm driving. But, a big reason I bought it was to reduce my stress of driving in traffic, so I'll pay the mpg penalty. I use adaptive cruise as much as possible.

I have about 3k miles on my 23 hybrid touring, and so far I’m averaging 41 mpg (without trying to get good mpg). Best I’ve gotten in a short 1 hour freeway trip was 53 mpg, but that was actually trying to get good mileage. If you want good mpg use Econ mode and use the paddle shifters to regen brake and recharge your battery faster. Also use EV only mode when driving in parking lots, drive-thrus, and idling for long periods of time.

What's the app you're using? I'd like to get some similar metrics on my current vehicle.

On the 2023 Honda Accord Touring Hybrid, Car and Driver stated that couldn't complete their 75 mph highway road test (in a manner where they could publish strong highway fuel economy) for this vehicle. C&D stated they got 43 mpg in mixed driving. With respect to highway mpg, note C&D achieved 31 mpg in the 2023 Honda CRV Sport Hybrid at 75 mph with a similar engine and powertrain (EPA fuel economy rating 40 mpg city/34 highway). The 2023 Accord Touring would likely get around 36-37 mpg in a C&D highway road test (EPA fuel economy rating 46 mpg city/41 highway), which is far short of the 44 mpg they achieved with the Toyota Camry Hybrid XLE (EPA fuel economy rating 44 mpg city/47 highway).

One change I would like to see is the touring model with 17" rims not the 19" and see if that would help with MPG. A coworker of mine has the EX-L (on 17") and he claims 56 MPG. I do not know their driving habits or the route they take to work in the DC Baltimore area.

That's a pretty disappointing number all things considered. Real world highway driving, I have gotten as much as 4 MPG (for a total of 57 MPG) over the EPA in my Camry hybrid. And that is for an entire tank. 690 miles. Segments of highway, I will see 50-70 MPG. During the winter, freeway MPG drops down to mid 40s. But during the summer, it is incredible. On my 6 mile drive to work, I will often see 99 MPG for the trip. It just depends on outside weather for the Camry.

@MH-im4oh

Жыл бұрын

You mean ‘99 mpg’ when you let go of the accelerator momentarily? Are you really that stupid? Or just know nothing about handling?

@tjalam4859

10 ай бұрын

Well the Camry tank is bigger than the Honda

@aluisious

8 ай бұрын

lol, meaningless@@tjalam4859

That's the same as my 2016 Accord, non hybrid.

@rowanyuh6326

11 ай бұрын

No its not

@ZACH_95_

11 ай бұрын

No it’s not fruitloop.

I get that mpg on my 22 sport 2.0 T! 😮

It's aerodynamics, any speed over 50mph, aerodynamic drag begins to play a major part in fuel consumption. I drive a 2017 Honda Accord Hybrid (same drivetrain as current generation) and if I drive 60-65 mph I get mid/low 40s on the highway. Any speeds over 65 and I begin to see a decrease in mpg. Around town and slower speeds, below 45, I can get in the 50''s with a light foot. All told if I drive "normal" I am usually in the high 30' s mpg and the wife is in the low 40's for mpgs.

Yup it's why I'm thinking of selling mines already I've only had it for 3 months now.

I own the '23 Touring model. In 1900 miles of about 60% city/40% highway, I am averaging 45 mpg. I am in SE WI and took delivery March 1. With the warmer weather and the engine having broken in, am getting 47 in the last 1200 miles. I'm OK with that. At freeway speeds ~ 75mph, I notice that wind speed and direction really take a toll. Thought about finding some nice 17" wheels and tires to improve fuel economy. However, Honda puts in some baffles around the wheels, inside the tires to improve noise on the road. I won't sacrifice a few mpg's in exchange for increased road noise. Yes, Camry Hybrid most certainly would be more fuel efficient, especially on the highway. But the interior space, braking and handling is definitely a step up over the outdated Camry.

I have a 2024 Accord Hybrid Sport- completely stock: I am averaging between 32-39mpg combined. Once and a while I will see tad over 40mpg on a freeway trip with no hills.

That's not an excellent highway performance, non hybrid will get the same mpg.

@vistastructions

Жыл бұрын

I'm getting even better on my 2020 1.5T on the highway. Like low 40s measured at the pump

@wbwayne8887

Жыл бұрын

​@vistastructions Your 2020 looks way more modern imo also. The new Accord, and Civic for that matter, have gotten so conservative and dull looking for the 11th gen, especially the Civic.

@finesseeeeeee6409

Жыл бұрын

hybrid isn't really designed for highway driving right? It's more of a city thing. In gas cars they are pretty darn efficient once moving, but getting going and just idling is a bit of a waste. Hybrids are just supposed to help with that. My Q50 can do 30mpg on a 70mph roadtrip, but my 40 mile commute has me averaging 22.5mpg despite going from Philly to Wilmington (thus mostly highway miles).

@Rockybalboa541

Жыл бұрын

I’m surprised people are still confused about where hybrids shine. City mpg

@Fumbiii16

Жыл бұрын

@@finesseeeeeee6409wrong it all depends on the cars and drivetrain. My ioniq hybrid gets 60 plus in the highway. Depends on the driver weather and hybrid system

nah bro. Everyone is failing to meet epa figures with this new car. Unacceptable in 2023, Honda needs to redo their cycle or get it validated.

On a recent 2,200 mile trip I averaged 41 mpg at speeds from 70-75 mph, and this on a NON- hybrid!

@redcapote4760

9 ай бұрын

I believe you. I own a 2020 Accord LX (not a hybrid) and I can get 36 mpg while driving 80-83 mph which is my usual highway speed. I've seen 40-41mpg myself when driving around 73-76 mph.

Like you said, skip the Touring and Sport hybrid models, get the EX-L if you care about fuel mileage, because the difference is significant. 51city/44hwy compared to 46city/41hwy. Note that the Sport models also get the lower EPA rating, so I would guess it has more to do with the wheels than anything else. edit: that touring model is Q U I E T on the freeway, though.

@lionintu

Жыл бұрын

I'd prefer a touring without the low profile tires. Nyc pot holes are a disaster for those

@harrytej

Жыл бұрын

@@boolji old gen had adaptive dampers.. not sure here

@ktakashismith

Жыл бұрын

@@boolji Can't say specifically for the Accord, but for the Civic Touring models they do add significant amounts of sound insulation materials.

@TheJttv

10 ай бұрын

I have a EXL and its already pretty damn quiet. Quiet enough to easily hold a conversation. But i suspect that may change when you remove the stock tires.

@phillipbrennan7082

8 ай бұрын

I just bought the touring last week I'm averaging 6L per 100 km not sure what that is in freedom units. But it's much better the the 5.7 ram I traded in for it.

Do a test with the EXL model. That is supposed to give 50+ because it uses 17" wheels

Can someone please share what is the difference between ex-l and touring when it come to ride quality and road noise? I will be keep this car for next 12 years so really need to make sure I make the right choice. Also what is MPG of touring when do HWY driving on 80-85 miles. The number you shared is for 73 no one in California droves at 73😮

amazing MPG for the Honda, when i drive with my 2022 Kia Sportage, 1.6 L Turbo 180 HP 3600 lbs weight, on a long distance on German Autobahn, I drive with 40 MPG.

Pretty disappointing to be honest. Crazy to think that you guys got 36 mpg with the M340i on winter tires. The B58 sure is an engineering work of art.

@singular9

8 ай бұрын

I averaged 36.5 MPG across 88k miles on my 2019 Camry XSE non hybrid...lol There is a reason Toyotas sell out

@aluisious

8 ай бұрын

BMW fuel efficiency is just you borrowing from yourself in the future. Half the engine is plastic and it's going to cost $2000 to change spark plugs at 90k miles when all kinds of shit crumbles into pieces while being removed. Say goodbye to all your MPG savings and more.

@jeffzhan548

8 ай бұрын

@@aluisious Lol most BMWs are leased buddy. Only the 3rd or 4th owner would have that to deal with.

That was disappointing. I just finished a 1,800 mile road trip in my 2021 Toyota Sienna Hybrid FWD from NYC to Tennessee. We got around 33 mpg average for the whole trip by calculating miles/gallons. It was with 7 passengers and around 250 pounds of luggage so roughly 1,200-1,300 pounds total payload. The average speed for the whole trip was 59 mph and cruise control was set at 80 mph for most of the highway driving. I would say around 90% of the drive was highway driving as well. It is surprising that a mostly empty Honda Accord going 70mph only got 4 mpg higher than in my case. Of course it was only 90 miles but even then.

My sister has the base Hyundai Elantra and she can easily achieve higher fuel economy than this Accord Hybrid!

@briancoyote7379

Жыл бұрын

Elantra is Civic equivalent, not Accord

I have a 2023 Accord Touring that I’ve put about 3000 miles on so far. 50/50 city highway. I’m averaging 48mpg total. And that’s with the AC on and 95 degrees every day. Once it cools down I expect it to go up above 50mpg

@carsonlinde2961

9 ай бұрын

My morning commute without using AC is typically 50-55mpg

@andrewtw69

2 ай бұрын

And you have the non-hybrid version? You must be in a low altitude region to be able to get that kind of efficiency, even with a light foot.

@carsonlinde2961

2 ай бұрын

@@andrewtw69I have the hybrid. After 15k miles my average has stayed right at 48mpg with 80% highway driving

@andrewtw69

2 ай бұрын

@@carsonlinde2961 what kind of speeds are you doing on the highway on average?

@carsonlinde2961

2 ай бұрын

@@andrewtw6970-75. There’s a sharp dropoff after that

Im gonna keep my 2018 2.0t 10AT for a long time,as long as it last!

@ro9169

9 ай бұрын

Me too

I thought the 2023 was supposed to get better mileage than the previous generation Accord Hybrids. I consistently get between 41-42 mpg's highway driving in my 2022 Accord Sport even with it's 19" wheels.

So does Honda get sued for not even coming close to their listed highway mpg? Like Hyundai did on the Elantra some years back.

This car obviously uses the hybrid setup more for on demand torque and not pure fuel economy

What is Out the door value?

I get 50MPG on my Civic on the highway, non-hybrid?

I get 38-41 mpg on highway on my 2015 Accord LX non hybrid. In City 30+ mpg.

@kingofthenerds7925

Жыл бұрын

Sheesh

@SIIKAP1

Жыл бұрын

Doubt it’s that high in the city. Probably being carried by highway driving to offset the average. Strict city driving should be below 30 in reality. I know from experience

@anjansingh3093

Жыл бұрын

@@SIIKAP1 yes in city it ranges between 28-31mpg. So many traffic signals, then it will below that mid 20s. But mostly for me 28-31mpg. 8years exp and counting.

@SIIKAP1

Жыл бұрын

@@anjansingh3093 we may have different idea of city driving. My town, which is more like a city with all the traffic, greatly reduces my MPG. It’s stop after stop, and so much traffic. It takes Up to 10 minutes to drive 1 mile away to the store sometimes.

@anjansingh3093

Жыл бұрын

@@SIIKAP1 ha ha.... I live in Dublin, CA.

How was the cabin noise on the freeway? was the cabin quiet or loud? how do you compare it to other vehicles you've driven in terms of quiteness on the freeway?

@JakeDrives1

Жыл бұрын

Put headphones in and listen to it … it’s pretty quiet!

Honda needs to change the headliner to black just like the civic sport touring hatchback. Looks so much cleaner.

@peruvianheat2053

2 ай бұрын

I agree

good test, let down on the mpg results tho. i own a 21 honda insight so civic hybrid version an drove a total of 506.9miles via trip A setting, divide that by 10.3 gal capacity = 49.21mpg, lower than the advertised 52mpg. 40 miles ag day with 85% hwy and 15% side streets but still pretty damn good.

Been driving the 2023 Touring for about a month now with over 1500 miles on the highway. Two thing I have noticed with gas milage. 1. At least for highway driving, I get the actual rated mileage in normal mode and around 5 mpg less in econ. I am not sure why this is. I am always very gentle with the gas and always maintain the same speed. I ran the first 500 highway miles in econ when I notice the mileage was not as expected. It's been much better since moving to normal. May be a bug? 2. 65 mph seems to be around the sweet spot for best mileage/speed ratio. Going up to 75 mph drops the mileage down a few points. From what I understand, it makes sense efficiency wise to start clutching in the ICE at around 62 mph. So keeping the speed as close to this (and the RPMs low as there is no transmission) is going to give the best milage.

@JerryCurl-wt8gb

Жыл бұрын

I am at just over 500 miles total with mine, as of today. I have noticed that I am finally getting the claimed combined rating of 44 mpg with my second top off of the fuel tank. I have traveled 120 miles on this tank and am at an average of 45 mpg so far with mixed driving, mostly on Econ. The temperature here has warmed up too which might be helping by causing the EFI to run a touch more lean. Either way I am as pleased as can be!!

I got 42.1 in my 20 Subaru legacy 2.5 at 70mph. I drove the Accord and found the passenger seat was uncomfortable. No height or lumbar or thigh extension like my legacy

@packey746

Жыл бұрын

Wow...must have had the wind at your back and downhill. I had a 19' legacy while hypermiling and the best I ever got was 36(zero wind at lower altitude) you had a special one there!

Really nice ride -but Honda forgot a heated steering wheel on the Touring sedan and yet all the other features are up to date!

@nhantran98

Жыл бұрын

They didnt forget, they just omit for the US Market, the Canadian version of the CIvic has them even,.

@GTX790SLI

Жыл бұрын

@@nhantran98 I do not understand why Honda does not include heated steering wheel standard on their cars in the US market. The Acura Integra also does not come with the standard heated steering wheel.

@davewilson7602

Жыл бұрын

@@GTX790SLII bet in a couple years they’ll add them, it’s just because of the current chip shortage it would be another thing to source.

Would love to get in city mileage

I like the concept of the direct drive hybrid Honda is doing, but the 2.5L ICE Camry does way better on the hyw. Honda hybrid will be a great around town daily driver.

If Honda get ambient lighting they’d be god tier

Love the new Accord, but that range is disappointing. My 2011 Altima has over 520 miles of range averaging 25 MPG. For a 2023 hybrid vehicle, I’m expecting at least 600-700 miles.

In the summer, running the air conditioning will give you a lower mpg number I would imagine. I wonder how this popular sedan stacks up against a Subaru Legacy, which has a highway mpg rating of 35 mpg with AWD and can be had for about $5000 less.

@Eugen-E

Жыл бұрын

Legacy is already old. Is smaller, is slower, in stop&go traffic has a lot worse mpg. Hybrids do better in summer because they have electric AC compressors. While in winter they have to keep the engine running to heat the cabin.

@paulhenry913

Жыл бұрын

42.1 in my 20 2.5 Subaru legacy at 70 mph

@ohiotrent

Жыл бұрын

Drove one and that CVT was absolutely horrible. Couldn't wait to get back in my 15 year old Honda Accord that drives buttery smooth

@harrytej

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhenry913 my v6 crosstour back in 2016 gave me 34mpg on highway.. thats not the point here.. accord shines in city

That’s only slightly better than my non-hybrid Integra. Kind of disappointing to see.

@Rockybalboa541

Жыл бұрын

I’m surprised people are still confused about where hybrids shines. City mpg

Good interior

I don’t get it. I get 40-44mpg on the highway in my non-hybrid 2020 sonata limited. Plus it has a 16 gallon tank so my range is over 600 miles.

@Rockybalboa541

Жыл бұрын

I’m surprised people are still confused about where hybrids shines. City mpg

@redsoul2102

Жыл бұрын

@@Rockybalboa541 not surprised, just disappointing highway mpgs, even compared to other hybrids.

So vs the old 2.0T it’s worse on the highway. 36 vs 38 mpg but the gas tank is 2 gal smaller (12.8 vs 14.8). New hybrid does 480 miles estimated while the old 2.0T does 520 miles.

@Eugen-E

Жыл бұрын

The 2.0T had 33.9mpg on the computer. And the outside temperature was higher. Still this Hybrid has better fuel economy than the 2.0T.

@Teku175

Жыл бұрын

@@Eugen-E On DM’s test it averaged 35.7 mpg. I average 35-37 mpg highway in my Sport 2.0T and have seen as high as 42.8 mpg on the computer (over 120 mile trip). What I said is that the smaller tank on the Hybrid reduces the total highway range. Plus, the Hybrid will destroy any non-hybrid in city driving. My 2.0T struggles to get over 23 mpg in the city. Because of this my average mpg is about 29 vs the 44 mpg they’ve gotten with this hybrid.

@Eugen-E

Жыл бұрын

@@Teku175 It is not correct to compare two different tests. Maybe your average speed was like 65mph, maybe outside temperature was higher.

@packey746

Жыл бұрын

They should have just skipped the 1.5 and offered the 2.0t and went with the hybrid for the lower trims...that 2.0t was a great engine

Love strawberry Calpico. 👍

What a lovely vehicle. Too bad we probably wont get this in austria/germany/europe. Honda and other japanese manufacturers right now remind me of what german/european engineering and car design used to be. Clear lines, understatement and form-follows-function, well thought-out design.

Good review, but I think Honda is overstating EPA's mpg like with The 2003 - 2006 Civic Hybrid that led the customers to a class action suit.

@lloydhudson9032

11 ай бұрын

I think they're testing these vehicles at much lower speeds which produce those results listed on the window sticker.

73mph on the highway is way too fast if you wanna save gas. If you drive conservatively in city streets and if you drive around 64mph on the slower right lanes on the highways you can easily surpass the EPA estimated mpg rating. Easily. But then again, driving around 63-65mph can be hard to do on the highways especially if the highway is wide open with little traffic. Its up to the individual driver really. As for me, I'm hardly ever in a rush and drive conservatively on the right lanes on the highway. At the same time I'm conscious of other drivers being careful not to annoy people so I occasionally step on it to keep up with traffic. With that all said, I'm getting 3+ mpg over the combined EPA estimated mpg rating with the current trip A meter for the past 1600miles.

@rightlanehog3151

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

Honda just recently revised their hybrid system and they still didn’t fix the issue with efficiency at highway speeds. Guess Toyota is still king with hybrids.

I want the features of the Touring but the MPG of the EX-L. Has anyone downsized to some nice 17’s on a Touring and managed better MPG’s?

@stevehoppenjan

Жыл бұрын

Thought about doing that. But then learned that Honda uses some noise baffles around the wheels, inside the tires. I saw another youtube video on it, and it seems to work. If you don't want increased tire noise, stay with the Honda factory set up with the baffles. I believe the factory tires and wheels on the lower trim (non-hybrid) models will work just fine with no calibration issues with the speedometer / odometer.

@opong72

2 ай бұрын

@@stevehoppenjan Using the 17-inch wheels instead of the 19-inch wheels not only increases mpg but also decreases road noise and improves ride comfort. It all about having a thicker tire with more air for cushion between the road and the suspension. The noise baffles might be a must for the 19-inch wheels because I find them harsh. I have the EX-L hybrid with the 17s, and also got OEM 19s used on the Touring and I swapped them, because the 19s looked better. Well, I have to commute now sometimes 200 miles a day a few times a week and after dealing with choppy roads and about 40mpg hwy, I switched back to the 17s and they are just way more comfortable. I averaged 44-46mpg on like 99% highway travel doing 60 to 75+mph.

@stevehoppenjan

2 ай бұрын

@@opong72 All true. If only I could find some nice looking 17" wheels for it. However, the ride and noise on the 19 stock wheels is not bad, just could be better.

Dang. Disappointed on hwy mileage. My 2.0 accord gets 36-38mpg with ACC turned on. Don't get those numbers around town though.

While Honda Focused on Fuel Efficiency in the new accord. They missed that mark and will lose many previous accord owner. They still think the accord is basic domestic car with providing anything that would set it totally apart from Mazda and Toyota. The could have beefed up the Previous 2.0 Turbo to some more of a sport model to compete with the Toyota Camry SE/XSE V6, Added A panoramic roof and brought some luxury like features inside.

@alpe6228

Жыл бұрын

the 2.0t sport model shits on any camry model and its not even close.

To be honest, I don't think hybrids are where we want them to just yet. I have a 2018 Toyota camry xse 4 cylinder. From L.A. to Lake Tahoe we averaged 37.7 mpg. That's 4 grown men and luggage with ac on. Now on local roads yes I get around 26 mpg. But we should get more especially if we're paying that hybrid premium price.

Thats not bad, its a heavy and big car. My 06' auto civic gets about 45-51mpg at 70mph GPS, depends on how many people im hauling and also the AC. And my 2014' forester XT gets about 31mpg. Makes sense you got that result. Still think that the non hybrid would do better.

@DailyMotor

7 ай бұрын

Testing the 1.5T tonight!

@514aam

7 ай бұрын

@@DailyMotor Can't wait! I have been considering one for my mom, an uncle owns a day 1 1.5T CRV and has been rock solid reliability since day 1, currently at 300k. Not a bad engine also, has enough power to get up to speed.

@DailyMotor

7 ай бұрын

@@514aam I've been very happy with it so far. I think the 1.5 is best suited with a CVT, never feels underpowered. With the 6MT in the Civic Si, it has too much rev hang and not enough character.

I wish the fuel and temp gauges were not in a L shape. Just give be the old school steam gauges please.

let me laugh at 40k price for a freaking accord. what a world we are living in

No SiriusXM ? That's a deal breaker for me. I own 2022 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T.

will accord be quieter than camry 2023

My 2023 Mitsubishi mirage gets 50 mpg normal everyday driving... cost $19000

My Acura TLX with a 2.4 and no Hybrid gets 42mpg on highway trips.

36 mpg hwy for a Hybrid Sedan is unacceptable imo. Better off saving thousands and getting an ICE that will get you 30-40

@Rockybalboa541

Жыл бұрын

I’m surprised people are still confused about where hybrids shines. City mpg

@kiLLinEmSoFTly

Жыл бұрын

@@Rockybalboa541 Avg commute for Americans is 40 miles round. You doing all 40 in the city?

2:38 that road needs some TLC. jesus.

That’s not very efficient at all tbh. I’m surprised at how poorly it performed.

Niro Hybrid had a lot worse mpg than Avalon Hybrid in your tests )))

Does it allow to drive on EV mode?

@xray40gamez75

Жыл бұрын

i dont believe you can switch to manual EV mode, the car decides when it is in EV and when it is not

@DailyMotor

Жыл бұрын

Yes, you can lock it into EV mode which will give you up to a few miles of EV driving in the right conditions. If you press the accelerator too much or go too fast it'll leave EV mode.

Not horrible in mixed driving, however kind of disappointing not to meet or exceed epa in this real mpg hwy test. Can't wait to see what the lighter Civic hybrid is capable of when paired with this same powertrain. That's going to be the ultimate daily driver imo. A car, with the possible exception of not having awd, will be highly competitive and versatile in everything. Just hope that Honda holds the cost in check. If they do, they won't be able to keep them in stock.

@IronGuardLegionnaire

Жыл бұрын

ineurope people are getting 60+ mpg in town, some getting 70+ in stop and go city and around 45-50+ on the highway, most big highways in Europe have 80mph speed

@wbwayne8887

Жыл бұрын

@@IronGuardLegionnaire That sounds extraordinary. 🙂

@Fadic4

Жыл бұрын

I think if you drive this the same way they do the EPA tests it would meet the EPA numbers. EPA should just start testing at averages speed of 70 MPH for highway tests.

@wbwayne8887

Жыл бұрын

@Fadic4 They should. It's kind of misleading when they test at 20mph under the typical interstate speed limit.

Looks cool still will never own one

So how in the world did Honda come up with 45 mpg if you only got 37? These manufacturers and their lying about fuel economy needs to stop

@Justaeuropeanman

Жыл бұрын

Yea 37 mpg is pretty bad for a hybrid. I rented a 2023 Altima and took a 500 mile trip and averaged 43 mpg. I only used 3/4 of the tank and had 1/4 of a tank to spare after the 500 miles. I was kind of expecting the hybrid to do better

Seems low for a Hybrid. I'm getting between 36-41mpgs on my 19 Sport 1.5t.

why are you testing everything but don't even try to do 2023 CRV hybrid MPG? I have seen you do driving impression on new CRV hybrid, but not MPG?

Interesting! Going 7 3 get 3 7

Thank you for an excellent review. 37 MPG on freeway is, tbh, rather pathetic. It's even worse than a modern day non hybrid car of the same class. Great as the rest of aspects this car may be, I'd simply rule it out if I am looking for a hybrid family sedan.

@harrytej

Жыл бұрын

Like honda explained, more than half the trims will be hybrid only.. its as if honda removed Hybrid word from the model name…. Give or take

@shadscott469

Жыл бұрын

His test isn't enough data. I've been getting 47mpg in a 2023 HAH.

@harrytej

Жыл бұрын

@@shadscott469 cool.. exl? Or sport?

@shadscott469

Жыл бұрын

@@harrytej Sport

@disco.lemonade

Жыл бұрын

Funny how lots of reviewers are getting much, much better results (mid 40s) in similar tests. So Idk

I get 40 mpg in my 2019 Jetta

Where’s the traffic? Doesn’t look like “real world” to me. You driving on an early Sunday morning?

My Camry hybrid LE will consistently get 50-52mpg at 75mph. At 80 mph here in Texas I'm usually at 48-50mpg. In the city I'm well above the 55mpg mark. I can't complain as I don't even try to hypermile and I'm never in eco mode. I just drive without thinking about mpg. I'm a hardcore Honda guy since childhood but if I need a hybrid...Toyota is by far the most efficient. Also I'd rather use Nml mode for testing. Eco mode just seems to dull everything and the engine seems to work harder as well and I have noticed a slight decrease in mpg. I'm honestly not sure what Eco mode is trying to accomplish.