Ford F150 Powerboost vs. Toyota Tundra Platinum: The Ultimate Comparison and Showdown Join this channel to get access to perks: / @samcarlegion
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@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
F150 or Tundra?
@twilightmedia8575
Жыл бұрын
F150 any time all day
@Welcometofacsistube
Жыл бұрын
Ram
@gabrielgonzalez9547
Жыл бұрын
F-150
@DWH300
Жыл бұрын
F150 is an easy choice
@joshhicks80
Жыл бұрын
F150 all day
@Jazzyexplorer Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comparison, like the fact that you try your best to get the trims as close as possible because there are other guys, doing reviews, but they base them on price and not trims, I prefer the way you do your reviews giving people the information and letting people worry about price themselves
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Jazzyexplorer
Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion Your reviews are always very good and fear and honest with lots of information about the vehicles not about price think you
@OBAS21666
4 ай бұрын
ford for me all
@jasonbrushett2005 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Ford for me,feature wise! Hopefully they get their quality control issues sorted,I know alot of manufacturers suffering same during covid and parts supply and quality.Still,Ford for me. .
@donalddavidb6515 Жыл бұрын
Tundra has a full power rear window v the small window in the Ford. This you missed.
@parisachilles2682
Жыл бұрын
Great point! Many existing Tundra owners love that option!
@joshgutierrez7380
Жыл бұрын
Mehhh not a game changer option lol
@_E_B_
6 ай бұрын
A full rear window that goes down? OMG!!!!!!!!! 😜🤣🤣🤣
@scotttwood Жыл бұрын
There's no F150 or Tundra anywhere on planet earth worth over $60,000. Absolutely insane!
@jaydeebee24 Жыл бұрын
The 348hp tune is only available in the base SR work truck trim. Every other trim (except Capstone and TRD Pro) gets the 389hp/479lb-ft tune as standard. The Toyota website says this clearly. As others have mentioned, the tow mirrors are optional on both the Tundra and F-150 and are there to see behind trailers that are wider than the standard mirrors. Also, the entire rear window on the Tundra is power up/down. Totally agree though on the difference in features and outward visibility.
@asvpab
10 ай бұрын
This guy trucks
@theantiqueactionfigure Жыл бұрын
I'm holding out for a plug in hybrid pickup. They'll be here soon.
@elionzenelaj4484 Жыл бұрын
I go for the tundra the price is more reasonable, you get so many fixtures from that price
@kenardazeez9593
Жыл бұрын
We know it's sarcasm....but, get real dude.🙄
@elionzenelaj4484
Жыл бұрын
@@kenardazeez9593 are u from us or canada?
@warlockgonzalez9050 Жыл бұрын
Nice review for sure really good at it Sam you went over everything!
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton!
@MrFordguy73 Жыл бұрын
Kind of stinks that he couldn't get a hybrid, the differences are pretty big. The tundra doesn't get near as good MPG as the Powerboost, so not only is the tundra less efficient, it's slower. Can only go into full-electric below 18. The battery fills up the entire under storage of the rear seat, a real deal breaker. And probably the biggest - would be the lack of generator in a hybrid. Kind of feels like they Rush this truck to the market and they left a bunch of stuff lacking on the engineering side.
@mholmes92624 ай бұрын
I have a '20 F150 Platinum (wife's daily) so it's not the updated body style but I would still take it over the Tundra. It has most of what the new gen offers (I wish it had the larger screen, 360 camera etc) but it feels the same as the new gen from behind the wheel and I believe the chassis and dimensions are all the same. We have really loved having it, esp after putting a MPT stg 1 tune on it. I looked at a Tundra a few months ago while helping my mother in law buy a car and I wasn't very impressed. It looks good but it doesn't feel as solid. I'm sure it's a great truck in its own right, but compared to the domestics, they all score about the same in reliability and to me, the domestics all do trucks better. I would not trade our '20 F150 for a new Tundra. At some point we will probably upgrade to the new F150 or maybe the Ram, mainly for the new I-6 and that Klipsh audio system.
@chileshemubanga359411 ай бұрын
I love em both!.infact they are among my 3 fav pick up truck brands,the third being Nissan.
@toddolson7273 Жыл бұрын
The Tremor 402A Package is AWESOME!! Rides even better....
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Love that
@mythicalmountancentralasia6183 Жыл бұрын
The Tundra has the only rear window that is powered up and down of all Pick-up trucks.
@Thelegendking-yj4bm
Жыл бұрын
And cupholders?
@redd7188
Жыл бұрын
Actually Ford had a limited run of trucks where the entire rear window rolled down years ago.
@Mike-tr2mi Жыл бұрын
I have to question your stated payload/cargo capacity on both trucks. I couldn’t find a Tundra Limited with a payload capacity above 1400 lbs. And a F150 with the Powerboost 3.5 with the Max tow package also has a payload below 1400. Please correct me if you know where I can buy either truck with the same equipment and a payload over 1600 lbs.
@willj3352
5 ай бұрын
You are correct, I have the 2024 tundra iforce max limited, and my payload is 1390 lbs!
@EdwardHarris-hk6so Жыл бұрын
That Ford has 7.2 kw propower on board, I know because its outlet setup is identical to mine. If it were the 2.4 or 2 you'd have 2 standard outlets but there are clearly 4 of those plus a 240
@jeffreystaup98858 ай бұрын
I have a 2023 powerboost hybrid and i love it
@cliftonmatthews2667 Жыл бұрын
Those big mirrors are an option on the Tundra and are are available on some F150 models. While they may seem big and in the way at times, they are super handy and a must when towing a camper or other big trailer. I’ve owned Toyotas and Fords sand love them both, still a tough call for me as which is the best.
@ericinfante1885 Жыл бұрын
Just came from a video by motor feed channel and the f150 is doing baaaadd... mark ups, recalls, not just with the f150, but the 250, 350, marverick, bronco, and the ev versions! Anything from tpms, steering, transmission, catastrophic engine failure possibilities... i had no idea it was like that. And many of the XLTs are 55k and up! When in 2018 they were starting at 35k. I do like em but i think toyota is the way to go and i also like the looks on the new tundra a lot more but it is shocking how many problems for trucks that are expensive af! Ford also lost $2 billion in lawsuits!
@johnrambo4082 Жыл бұрын
I'm 6 ft and fit in the rear of the Tundra with no issues and plenty of head room. The problem is people with longer torso. They have issues. When they go in other trucks it's the same thing. You were almost touching the Ford headliner when you sat in the rear too.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Nahhhh ford had a lot more space in the back
@johnrambo4082
Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion it look the same when you sat in it as the Tundra. However, you did not sit in the middle rear seat of the Ford for all of us to see the difference.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Ford has way more space either way
@josipdolic6391 Жыл бұрын
Socks you’re wearing are my favourite feature lol
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Happy socks
@Jaimeleon20 Жыл бұрын
The tundra has the better mirrors, rear window( sliding up/down) , interior LED lighting in high trims, and they look better when lifted a bit and bigger off road tires. I still love my 22 platinum 5.0v8 though.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Those mirrors are absolutely useless, and most of the time because they’re so big
@Jaimeleon20
Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion because they are big? I believe that’s the point, so you can have more visibility.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
@@Jaimeleon20 why would you need more visibility when you have 60 cameras in the car? I found no use of these. They actually reduce visibility
@Jaimeleon20
Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion I drive semi trucks, I know the importance of mirrors and visibility. I’ve owned a 2018 Tundra and now a 2022 platinum f150. The tundras bigger mirror Made it much more easier to see the side of the truck and other lanes. Didn’t even have a blind spot with them. My ford has a slight blind spot but it’s not terrible, it’s just the tundra is a little better. But Who really depends on Cameras? I guess some people need them , i think they are just good for parking perfectly, like getting close to a curb. But they aren’t as accurate. it depends on the person. I’ve started driving at 15 with a car with no cameras at all, it’s all about experience/skill/ preference at the end of the day.
@andrewrew1423
Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion how much did ford pay you? Lmao
@Iwo26 Жыл бұрын
As much as I would like to get the Tundra, Toyota has lost me with the lack of fully flat floor in the back. Ford’s ability to put up the rear seats take the cake for me.
@lgfriess3489
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, there's a lot I like about the Tundra but the flat floor is one many features I love about the F150. I'm always surprised more trucks don't have it.
@1984rx7302 Жыл бұрын
Ford created that mirror style decades ago and they are available on the f150
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@e7bk
Жыл бұрын
On F350 and F250
@cliftonmatthews2667
Жыл бұрын
@@e7bkThey are available on some of the F150 trims.
@iliketurtles536 Жыл бұрын
I stopped looking at the tundra because of the back seat headroom (I am 6'6") and if you get a hybrid you lose the under seat storage in the 2nd row.
@timmorris3290 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2022 F150 Platinum with the Powerboost that has been in the shop every other month since I owned it. Ford is the process of looking into a buy back deal because it has been so bad. I love the Ford, but it will be a Toyota for me because I need a truck I can actually drive and not have sitting in the repair shop.
@andrewrew1423
Жыл бұрын
Ford paid the reviewer lmao useless video
@casey10614
5 ай бұрын
yatzheeeeee
@toddolson7273 Жыл бұрын
The Tundra is like a 2014 model F150 - v6 twin turbo - still has the hump in the back - etc.. The reliability in Toyota comes from not offering all the features of Ford and only releasing a new model every 15 years. i like Toyota's too - but it's the additional features you can't get with the Toyota that holds Toyota back.
@johnrambo4082 Жыл бұрын
Actually the optional side step on Tundra is more convenient. It hides out of the way. It is easier to step on because its on the side. I say better than the other manufactures. The bumper is not made to be stepped on in the first place. With the tailgate down you can't step on the bumper on most models. A bumper is not made to be standed on. It's to protect the rear.
@dallasfrost1996
Жыл бұрын
GM's bumper steps are by far the best in the segement. Easily accessible and won't suddenly fail on you. It doesn't take much to damage or rip off those deployable steps like on the Tundra or Ram, and Ford's tailgate step just requires too much unnecessary effort.
@johnrambo4082
Жыл бұрын
@@dallasfrost1996 if your talking about the side bed step that's on the higher trims of Tundra those are strong enough and out of the way. It's not part of the bumper, so it is better because you're not suppose to step on a bumper in the first place. It's not meant for that.
@dallasfrost1996
Жыл бұрын
@@johnrambo4082 The Tundra's deployable "bumper" steps sit lower than GM's proper built-in bumper steps. There's more chances for the Tundra's steps to get caught on potential obstacles and/or damaged on off-road terrain (like when approaching steep upward hills/off-road trails). Not to mention Toyota's steps are electronically operating, which could potentially malfunction as well. In comparison, GM's bumper steps are *fully* tucked away and are always accessible no matter what. GM's bumper steps are also actually designed to take weight, they've been doing this feature for almost a decade now. No issues with them. Simple but highly effective solution for bed accessibility. So effective in fact that Ford has now copied GM with this feature for their most recent Superduty trucks.
@DosCylindros Жыл бұрын
The trim you got in the Tundra makes 389 HP and 479 ft/lbs of torque. You quoted the specs for the SR trim Tundra.
@bigrich6750 Жыл бұрын
If it doesn’t have a V8, I’m not considering it, and y’all can keep your hybrid. Don’t want one. I want a straight 5 liter V8 with a towing package. That’s why I have a truck - to tow big trailers. If you’re not giving me that, I’ll go somewhere else. Don’t care about any of the other bullshit.
@fhoofe3245 Жыл бұрын
no one else is offering the Pro Power Onboard 7.2Kw, so F-150 PowerBoost wins.
@Steve-yr5vi Жыл бұрын
When is Ford bringing out that 6.8 in the F150?
@richardmahoney9415 Жыл бұрын
I love the Ford F-150 Limited I love in literally every color but this one. This truly is a old man color I’m sure some one will love it
@kendallt2020 Жыл бұрын
i was told the tundra rear window goes down.!
@cecilotto504 Жыл бұрын
The ford tail gate closes automatically also
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@daytrading5456
Жыл бұрын
Yep... makes it easier for old folks.
@ericp356 Жыл бұрын
I picked up my 2023 F150 XLT PB last month after ordering it last November. I picked F150 PB over 2023 Tundra over its features and design. I just don't like how new Tundra looks. For reliability, mine came with a bad turbo which was replaced under warranty but I also viewed few real Tundra owner's youtube videos and noticed the new Tundra also has some quality issues. I agree that Toyota is more reliable in general but their vehicles are often lack of new techs and new ones are not as reliable as old ones. I learned it from my recent experience with new Honda & Toyota that I sold recently. Moreover, Toyota dealers bear me still charge 3000-4000 markups on every vehicle on their lots. I drove mine 1100 miles back home but I got almost 10k off from its msrp.
@AndroidProUser11 ай бұрын
That tundra gonna be around a lot longer more often than not lol
@the1withnoname496 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your reviews and honest opinion keep em coming please🫡
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Will do!
@johnfiorentino867711 ай бұрын
Sir. I'm a 2 year Powerboost Lariat owner. The Powerboost engine does comes on as needed to generate AC power. Your comment that it has its own generator doesn't paint a realistic picture. If you put a load on the AC power, the engine will run. I like mine, especially the 435 hp and 570 foot pounds of torque. I still get 25 mpg on 87 octain on the highway. Complaints... My seat and driver door rattle already. Kind of disappointing from 2 years of light use. Truck has remote start. However it almost always starts in electric mode. 2 draw backs to this.. 1) Air Conditioner doesn't cool effectively until the gas engine starts. I've started my truck remote 10 minutes early only to find the cabin and seats are still hot. 2) by starting in electric, your oil must sits in the pan. No oil circulating at low idle. Instead the engine kicks in while on the road and turning at 2,500 rpm. Not sure if this damages anything. However metal rubbing metal can't be good. Seems like Ford could fix this Over The Air by turning on the gas engine during remote start. At least when temps are above 80, or below 40. Let that gas engine warm up and circulate oil. I'd love to see an aftermarket plug in battery to extend electric range.
@davejablesnik88688 ай бұрын
Let's talk when both trucks are at 100k, if there are any shortcomings with the Tundra, they will be in the rear view mirror, plus resale and of course reliability....
@fuzz8668 Жыл бұрын
This video is brought to you by Ford! When you said the Ford feels more like a truck because it's feels softer and has a smoother ride, I almost fell out of my chair! I guess your version of a truck it to go to Costco to pick up toilet paper. That tiny rear window is so great! Well, only if you are pretending the Tundra doesn't have a full rear that opens!
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
This comment is brought to you by Toyota
@fuzz8668
Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion 100% Toyota owner!
@richarde1355 Жыл бұрын
I had to play back a portion of the video to make sure I heard something correctly, and… The Ford F-150 tested here is $108,000!!! Over $100k for an F-150. An F-150, a truck. And the Tundra is $80k! No wonder used cars are in such demand and their prices so high.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
108cdn, that’s fully loaded
@Batolocor22 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the perfect truck has to have a more rigid suspension, less technology, reliability and rear window on the tundra 😎 and if one day I need my truck to park itself, it means I can't drive and I need a bicycle 😂
@lilnicky131 Жыл бұрын
im only half way through the episode but you better fucking race these by the end
@JasPlun Жыл бұрын
I will take a Toyota any day of the week over a Ford because I hate repair bills and the last Ford gave me hell. Even with the Wastegate issue which was identified and fixed I would buy that Tundra. One thing I hate is to still be making payments after warranty is gone and getting stuck with a huge bill. Odds are Toyota will cost less over total ownership. Just my opinion though I have seen some of the nightmares the Eco-Boost has caused. Ford is a Crap shoot you either get a good roll or a bad roll.
@toddolson7273
Жыл бұрын
Toyota is following as usual - V6 Twin Turbo, 10 speed, composite bed, blah blah.. they're good as long as you can live without the features other trucks offer. No Tow Hooks on a Tundra? Really?
@JasPlun
Жыл бұрын
@@toddolson7273 Believe me I can live without tow hooks or have them installed. Paying 10-12 grand for a ne w engine before it hits 100k after shelling out 70-80 grand is not for me I will let you domestic buyers enjoy that. Our business runs a fleet and I see 1st hand how often modern domestics break down and how expensive it is the fix. I will take my chances with Toyota being slower to adopt new tech so I do not have to be their beta testers paying the bill for them:P
@toddolson7273
Жыл бұрын
@@JasPlun Thats the beauty as you pointed out. You have a choice on getting different engine different features etc. if I were running a business it would be a different model for sure with less features and less to break. There’s a reason ford is selling 10x more than Toyota. BTW checkout the newly released 2023 reliability and forum on the Tundra.
@robertpearson8798 Жыл бұрын
I've owned six Toyotas, I think I'll stick to what I know and trust. Bells and whistles only carry so much weight with me.
@mkyhou1160
Жыл бұрын
I think there are two problems with the Toyota when comparing, both related Fords Aluminum. Fords won’t body rust (a big issue some climates, esp wheel wells), get much better fuel economy (my 2.7 eccoboost is amazing).
@robertpearson8798
Жыл бұрын
@@mkyhou1160 Aluminum doesn’t rust but it will corrode from road salt, a problem in my climate, so neither are perfect. If I wasn’t buying it as a tow vehicle the smaller ecoboost engine would be a plus (I know two people who have it) but I want the greater HP and torque of the bigger engine and I’m willing to pay for poorer mileage.
@sublimegreen
11 ай бұрын
Robertpearson...hope you dont own this one recall for platic part in gas linecthat might cause gas tank tovexplode. 168,000 Japanese trucks affected.
@robertpearson8798
11 ай бұрын
@@sublimegreen Leak fuel making a fire possible, If it is they’ll fix it , and it’s less than the 306,000 Ram trucks that were recalled for electrical fires, including the one my cousin owned that burned to a crisp.
@sublimegreen
11 ай бұрын
@@robertpearson8798 Stop Diverting the Issue...Your Japanese Tacoma Toyo has a serious recall the fuel tank could blow up. Toyota fan boy..This Japanese wannabe truck cant touch a Ram...
@johnrambo4082 Жыл бұрын
Your also wrong the 1794 comes with option for power running boards that also hide when doors is closed just like the Ford you show. I know because I own a fully loaded 1794.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Nop it doesn’t- i can see it on Toyotas website non automated
@cessealbeach Жыл бұрын
Tundra dumped the thirsty V8 and did what ford did ,V6 twin Turbo but Ford has the option for the V8, tundra no option. To me the tundra front end looks like an after market grill, the rear looks stunning, the ford has lots of bells and whistles, Take the F150
@barrettappel9319 Жыл бұрын
You can get the tow mirrors added in the f150 as well
@D2chukhna Жыл бұрын
The Tundra you are comparing is not a Platinum but a 1794. The engine is the same but strange that this obvious difference is wrong. Moreover, both the Platinum and 1794 offer the retractable running boards and bed step as an option, just like the Ford. Retractable running boards are not standard on the Ford.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
In Canada the Platinum trim can be purchased with a 1794 package - In the US it’s a Trim
@D2chukhna
Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion I was not aware. Thank you for clarifying.
@robertabbott85417 ай бұрын
SAME DOES NOT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT ONBOARD POWER. The F150 has a battery, and a large INVERTER. The only generator is used to charge the battery. Its sometimes called an alternator.
@elvinlopez0371 Жыл бұрын
F150 ❤❤❤❤❤
@04mach1speed Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, I like them socks ;)
@cecilotto504 Жыл бұрын
The big low sitting tail loghts on the Toyota is easy to get damaged i dont like that
@dein45d Жыл бұрын
Liked the video but no matter what the truck has I can’t affor 100,000. Lol
@kuroma17 Жыл бұрын
I bought a 23 Platinum Powerboost. I test drove a Tundra when shopping, and to me there is no comparison. Secondly, the Toyota dealership in my area is still charging markups on their Tundras. There’s no way I was going to pay a markup for a Tundra, or any other truck for that matter.
@daytrading5456
Жыл бұрын
Everyone wants one... unless you are an old man. Thus the premium. They are still flying off the lots before they are even unloaded.
@krasnaludek298
Жыл бұрын
Good choice … the F-150 is a beast! 👍🏻🇺🇸
@Keith.Vieira
Жыл бұрын
You'll be paying more then Markup in repairs on that Ford...
@theantiqueactionfigure Жыл бұрын
The last Ford truck I owned was in the shop more times than the previous four Toyotas. The wife's ten year old Honda was more reliable than that brand new F250.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
That sucks man. I had a Lexus IS500 same thing brand new. It’s painful to go thru that
@theantiqueactionfigure
Жыл бұрын
@Sam CarLegion the wife's 10 year old Lexus has been flawless. I plan on keeping it another ten at least.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
It all comes down to luck. My focus rs was flawless, my dad has an e class just passed 400k kms
@jxmar_ Жыл бұрын
If you’re gonna be biased then you’re off better not comparing them..🤦♂️
@daytrading5456
Жыл бұрын
Yep... he's a hardcore Ford fan.
@raphaelfrancis4509 Жыл бұрын
Drag race them!!!
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Will do!
@allenstuck2861
Жыл бұрын
The Ford is the 🏆 🥇
@gergozichy2370 Жыл бұрын
I like both trucks, but at over 100k for the Ford I’d be living in it 😅. I just can’t believe how expensive vehicles have gotten. Wages certainly have not kept up with inflation. It’s hard to imagine how an average guy would be able to afford one of these or any other new vehicle for that matter. Crazy!
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
I don’t disagree with you
@studsauce7803
Жыл бұрын
Not only are new prices high but so are used.
@vicb897511 ай бұрын
Sam, a very important point about the backseats. The flat floor in the back seat of the F150, with the folding storage under the seats, allows us to slide our dog kennel into the back seat. We use a 2x6 piece on the floor, the front of the kennel to level it. Our dog and us love her in the kennel, inside the truck cab, as opposed to loose in the back seat area or on the seats, or in the bed of the truck. We tie down the kennel with straps, so it is safe in case of a wreck. She is protected, and has AC and heat, we use a heavy duty Gunner kennel, she cannot stick her head between the front seats and slobber, we use the single side of the back seat to hang extra clothes and she can’t get into them, she sleeps and relaxes in the kennel, instead of trying to help me drive by looking out the window and barking at squirrels, Lord knows, I’ve l already installed an auxiliary steering wheel and fake brake pedal in the front passenger compartment, so the wifey feels comfortable, giving me driving advice. Very important, we save the back sets from claw marks, even with a seat protector, you should see the back seat of my Jeep. Oh, about the mirrors, you can order the F150, with the larger, extending and power folding mirrors, found as standard equipment in the F250+, with the same features, as the Tundra mirrors. I plan on ordering the larger mirrors, they are more convenient and required for any significant towing. My opinion, anyway. Great review, I really enjoyed it. I will be ordering a new 2024 1/2 ton truck. Your review was one more reason why I am ordering the F150 Powerboost. PS, I had a 2012 F150 4x4, with the 3.5 Ecoboost engine and loved it. 120,000 miles, 6 years of commuting and trailering a Winnebago, without a single problem. Loved it. Did regular oil changes, as the truck computer system advised, between 8 and 10k miles, with the best synthetic oil I could buy, used the same oil every time. Did lab tests on the oil and had zero issues with the oil or the truck. Sold it in 2018 to a friend, he has 160,000 miles on it, without a problem.😊😊😊
@PEETY6668 ай бұрын
Let's check back at 250,000 miles.
@afgoutlawz8729 Жыл бұрын
Ford is always pushing tech and trying to give everyone the comfort of a home, while still trying to be as reliable as possible, but its hard when trying to give everyone everything they want, peace of mind, which also comes in the mode of recalls and being able to fix them, unlike other brands where there is literally no help or service for them, like gm which over heats due to tight engine design, then you have dodge which makes decent engines but also has all the transmission problems and no servicing, toyota is over hyped the make is reliable as fuck compared to other brands cars yes they also are great but you have to also remember there made for thier peoples sizes thats why there so small, compared to american brands like ford you can fit 2 cows while tundra and the other brands can fit 1.5 cows, point is every brand company has thier own thing they offer just depends which you like and which you want to work with.
@issavibez394
Жыл бұрын
Toyota just doesn't offer much options
@afgoutlawz8729
Жыл бұрын
@@issavibez394 toyota very reliable and are smart they look at the demographic of the economy of how much ppl have $ and then base the design and build and everything around the price range which is very good thats why little to no options unless you go lexus, but then even lexus has small, tight builds aswell, and dosnt offer a luxury truck model to compare with ford, even though if they did come out with one it would probably destroy the markey of every american brand lexuary truck
@daytrading5456
Жыл бұрын
Yeah... they want to make the Ford comfort similar to that of sitting in an Archie Bunker recliner. Old man truck. The Tundra looks young, fresh, and on the leading edge of design. I don't put the Raptor in the F150 "old man" category. Nice looking truck for a Ford.
@afgoutlawz8729
Жыл бұрын
@@daytrading5456 lmfao old man are smart and wise, while young are still learning, anyways point is if a auto maker making all the amenities of a home thats perfect, just the way you love your home is same with ford when you have everything you want can go with you and you can enjoy it all, with peace of mind knowing the vechile itself offers it and you dont need to bring extra or do extra means alot, peace of mind for any family man. Toyota tundra loooks like a confused kid while ford looks a Man in fine italian suit.
@reneeandchrisforever
Жыл бұрын
@@afgoutlawz8729 Yes, the Ford will look like a man in a fine suit sitting at the dealer for repairs or recalls. If you can get past your fanboy mindset, you’ll realize the big three love to pile tech into their trucks that is poorly engineered or built. From over complicated motors to gimmicky options that inevitably fail. Brand loyalty and waving the flag will only cost you more money down the road.
@ricardosabillon995 Жыл бұрын
Love my f-150 22 Lariat.
@richardoaks35975 ай бұрын
Tundra has a better second row. You can see and I’ve tried it for myself.m, that on the f150 the bench seat is lower to the ground and the seat provides less leg and thigh support. Feels like your knees are in your chest when sitting ins exons row of f150 as an adult.
@tomaszregulski486 Жыл бұрын
Tundra's i-FORCE 3.5L twin-turbo V6 puts 389 horsepower and 479 lb-ft of torque 🤷♂️
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
“Powered exclusively by a twin-turbocharged V-6, the base version of the engine comes with either 348 or 379 horsepower, depending upon the model, while the more powerful hybridized variant produces 437 horsepower with 583 pound-feet of torque. Every Tundra employs a 10-speed automatic transmission with either rear- or four-wheel drive.”
@bmcga111 ай бұрын
Do the same comparison, with the exact same trucks, in 12 years.
@lancejackson59708 ай бұрын
On the F-150 that step that comes out is absolute trash it catches Sand and Stone inside it is a nightmare. Also on my 2016 that had that exact step the cover for the step actually it just clips in and it came off in the 1st year of use.
@krasnaludek298 Жыл бұрын
Easy choice … Ford builds the best trucks with the most options. Have owned 3 F-150s and all were extremely reliable. If I want a little commuter car, then I might consider something from Japan: Honda or Toyota.
@SmallAxeMP6 ай бұрын
So, you wanna tell me Toyota couldn't measture from arss to the roof and ensure there is at least room for 7.5ft. Toyota don't know where to compensate.
@leroylefort5069 Жыл бұрын
Ford can put all those gadgets and gizmos on them and more , but at the end of the day it's still a Ford. The Tundra has been engineered to last many miles , for longevity and reliability. To each their own......I buy Toyota even without all those gizmos . But thanks for your opinion
@timewalker6596 Жыл бұрын
That is a 1794 Edition Tundra not a "Limited Platinum Edition Tundra", which does not exist. If you actually meant the "Platinum Edition Tundra" that does exist and sadly will never have a TRD Off-road option package until Toyota decides to make it an option.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Toyotas Info Paper shows: 2023 Tundra CrewMax Platinum with Option Platinum 1794 for$1200. So you are most definitely wrong :)
@randydufresne7297 Жыл бұрын
I had 4 Ford Expeditions and busted my last one in for a Tundra Limited 4x4 as I need an open bed now. So far the Toyota is fine except v for the really ugly front grill - talk about over kill. Also don’t line the dash board layout with small buttons. Gas mileage doesn’t seem as good as the Ford but it’s too early to tell as I only have 44 miles on the Tundra.
@hotelpv
6 ай бұрын
That grill on the Tundra is awkward. I am waiting to purchase the 2024 F150 instead. The refresh makes it look much better.
@killermobiledetailing2795 Жыл бұрын
So I have had the Toyota tundra 2007 and little Toyota Tacoma many yes that’s all they have is reliability for sure if u looking for a engine last u half million miles go for it but if you’re looking for a real work truck Ford is the way to go yes, it might have issues recalls but I’ve had fords since I gave up on Toyota brakes would burn at 12,000 miles and suspension was weak for heavy payloads and gas was terrible in towing guess what ford has proven to me brakes have lasted way longer almost 45,000 or more miles more comfortable and pulls tows and payloads can handle way better there just great work trucks yes might not last more 200,000 miles but that’s why I sell them at 120,000 miles get new one and enjoy new ones all time guess what Toyota will last but u got out new paint job repairs after a long time also from keeping them to long so if u think about it it comes almost to about the same thing I feel ford has a better work truck and daily driver Toyota is cheap plastic inside and just engine and transmission will last but everything else will fall apart like any other car there always behind on technology so Toyota still has a lot of things to still improve on Chevy man the truck just sucks lol had it too payload is weak there system break if u over tow it it was always in the shop Nissan was better then Chevy I think the truck is just for looks only built like dirty not a rock lol
@shameerkhan6118 Жыл бұрын
1794 is the best trim
@zacharymakos Жыл бұрын
I’m blown away by the headroom in the tundra, I’ve been in the back of a VW bug and that had more headroom.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
😶😶⬆️
@studsauce7803
Жыл бұрын
I am 6’1” and I fit in my ‘23 tundra just fine. I don’t feel cramped or like the headspace is too small.
@Steve-yr5vi
Жыл бұрын
@@studsauce7803 I'm 6'3" and fit in the Ford just fine.
@zacharymakos
Жыл бұрын
@@studsauce7803 damn okay, sam has gotta be hella tall then
@GreaseWood-px4gk Жыл бұрын
Ford beats Toyota straight to the shop every time! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@user-le9be6es4t Жыл бұрын
He says, both have a 'great price.' Hahaha..... $70k+ without any possibility of negotiating down from MSRP (thanks to Joe Biden and his non-stop inflationary spending and zero results on fixing the supply chain) is not exactly what I would call a 'great price.' Also - I don't believe he mentioned another down-side to the Tundra: Tundra has a 'hump' in the center of the rear passenger floor, making storage of large boxy items difficult..... F150 is completely flat from door to door. And, if he checked on the forums, he would note that the Tundra is having massive issues with annoying air/wind leaks around the poorly designed door seals.... as well as flimsy interior hardware that breaks and rattles galore.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Great price for what they offer - ford is just better
@harrisharris9790 Жыл бұрын
Toyota number 1
@balmoresegovia8853 Жыл бұрын
Toyota is quality
@brianmcgowan428010 ай бұрын
The winner was chosen before the filming began. Honda Ridgeline !
@spud27277 ай бұрын
Tundra was outdated before it left the assembly line. Atleast they got a good truckload sale of tablets to glue on that dashboard. Lol 😊
@raf847410 ай бұрын
You review trucks and don’t know the tundra’s entire rear window opens?
@juanromo7080 Жыл бұрын
I love the F150 all the way
@joseperezpaz9986 Жыл бұрын
Want the better quality better retaining value buy Toyota 🤙🏽😎
@majood245 Жыл бұрын
Toyota is the number one leading of recalls than ford than GM than Nissan
@indman101 Жыл бұрын
This guy doesn't know the mirrors on the Tundra are tow mirrors or that the rear window doesn't have the little added small window like the Ford does but that's because the whole window comes down on the Tundra he needs to do research before doing a video I sat in a 1794 Tundra in the back seat just an hour ago and the headroom is plenty and I'M 6 feet tall no problem not sure why he couldn't straighten his head up.
@Pilot545 Жыл бұрын
First person I’ve seen who admitted they liked the front of the new Tundra. 😳🤢. Ford has foldable tow mirrors as an option, too. Also, how about those front recovery hooks on that Tundra?? 😂
@daytrading5456
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't need them... 😆
@Steve-yr5vi
Жыл бұрын
@@daytrading5456 because people know the shouldn't risk taking it off road? The reason the Tundra doesn't have front tow hooks is to preserve their 2% reliability margin over Ford. When owners put front tow hooks on them, and bring it in for repair Toyota notes it's a "modified truck" and reject the warranty repair for that reason, indicates how much confidence they have in the Tundra.
@ssjMaximum22Goku Жыл бұрын
I like the look of the 2023 Nissan Titan Platinum reserve over both of these
@cecilotto504
Жыл бұрын
Titan is about to be discontinued because there not selling enough
@issavibez394
Жыл бұрын
Nissan junk
@ssjMaximum22Goku
Жыл бұрын
@@issavibez394 Shows what you know
@jhardwood6960
Жыл бұрын
I think the titan is better as well.
@isaacstacoify
Жыл бұрын
Titans are the ugliest looking truck ever
@rustbeltrobclassic251210 ай бұрын
I own a powerboost.. my suggestion is tundra.. the powerboost is junk.. yeah the powerboost gets great mpg, in most scenarios, and it is way more comfortable, but it squeaks and rattles, and is built like crap.. at 5k miles my drivers door arm rest is delaminating, the passengers headlight fills with water, and the mirrors as in this video are way too small. the sync 4 is a freemium application, you pay for everything but only if you allow them to record your driving habit's, speeds, and record you in the cabin, otherwise you get a radio and carplay/android auto that randomly disconnect. the only real bonus of the f150.. it's fast.. comfortable, and economical.. everything else the toyota is better.. and in 60k miles that's what I'll own..
@42medwards Жыл бұрын
Soo much for the money? Some of the highest, and most inflated prices Automobile buyers have ever seen. Ford Inflated the MSRP to stop Dealers from Marking up the trucks. These are not good deals. I Like both of these trucks. They are the 2 I would choose between when I buy one in the next year. But these prices are crazy, regardless of features. When the prices fall over the next year or two. They might become good deals again. But not now.
@andrewrew1423
Жыл бұрын
Will never go down anymore.
@jw85789 ай бұрын
Ford Limited is more equivalent to tundra capstone.
@Liledgy100 Жыл бұрын
The tundra has 389 hp, not 347!
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
“Powered exclusively by a twin-turbocharged V-6, the base version of the engine comes with either 348 or 379 horsepower, depending upon the model, while the more powerful hybridized variant produces 437 horsepower with 583 pound-feet of torque. Every Tundra employs a 10-speed automatic transmission with either rear- or four-wheel drive.” This is not the hybrid
@Jason_DS
Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegionthe model you drove had 389. You are referencing the SR trim. You were also wrong about the automatic running boards on the tundra.
@ktra5031
Жыл бұрын
Should have compared a capstone to a limited. Capstone come standard with the automatic running boards and automatic bed steps.
@dieselstar5 Жыл бұрын
Can’t beat Toyota’s reliability and price. The Tundra has road presence as well. It’d be the pick for me.
@gabrielgonzalez9547
Жыл бұрын
New Tundra has been anything BUT reliable.
@ssjMaximum22Goku
Жыл бұрын
Kind of lame though that a pickup of that size has such a small cab on the inside for passengers though.
@gabrieldetwiler7078
Жыл бұрын
Toyota is not reliable anymore. They are just like any other brand anymore
@studsauce7803
Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielgonzalez9547 what’s your proof? And don’t bring up the wastegate issue. That effected less than 100 trucks.
@Steve-yr5vi
Жыл бұрын
You mean the 2% margin Toyota has over Ford in terms of reliability? And of course while Toyota has a dedicated department to refute warranty claims, Ford does not have that role, instead they work closely with customers to resolve issues and improve the vehicles to correct design to reduce warranty claims. I buddy of mine has that job at Ford for the Southeast. Keep in mind issues with sync contribute more than the 2% margin. so when you're actually talking components that matter the Ford is more reliable than the Toyota.
@kennethg.arnado1481 Жыл бұрын
Bruh that's 1794 right
@mikefoehr235 Жыл бұрын
FORD lead in recalls last year. GM was number 2. That speaks volumes.
@gabrielgonzalez9547
Жыл бұрын
Not true.
@mikefoehr235
Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielgonzalez9547 That is what Ben Hardy reported in a recent video.
@ssjMaximum22Goku
Жыл бұрын
F150 probably has the most truck sales still, so that makes sense for the recalls. The Tundra was also called back for recalls as well.
@melvinhunt6976
Жыл бұрын
@@ssjMaximum22Gokuwhen you sell over 5 times as many, then the recalls will follow!
@ssjMaximum22Goku
Жыл бұрын
@@melvinhunt6976 That's the point. They will have more recall numbers as they've sold more units.
@parisachilles2682 Жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest, and the data supports it, the Tundra will be driving by the salvage yard where the Ford will be in 5 years. Just sayin…
@Slainself
Жыл бұрын
Average Toyota owners
@studsauce7803 Жыл бұрын
That tailgate on the ford is full of nonsense.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Why?
@studsauce7803
Жыл бұрын
Ruler? Wobbly as stick that pops up. That step looks cheap.
@garys2157
Жыл бұрын
@Studsauce It's been around a while and works good, never used it, but the GM step looks easier to use.
@studsauce7803
Жыл бұрын
Ram makes the best idea I think. That half opening is great to have.
@dallasfrost1996
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Ford's tailgate step requires too much unnecessary effort to use. GM's bumper step is by far the best in the segement for bed accessibility
@dalynk629 Жыл бұрын
What is ,For Only Recall Duties ?😂😂
@daytrading5456 Жыл бұрын
Ford looks like an old man's truck.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Yep
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
@Helicopter Dad! it’s true
@Louthemailman
Жыл бұрын
So does the toyota
@sergeysmelnik
Жыл бұрын
The ford will still look good in 20 years. The tundra is already ugly
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F150 or Tundra?
@twilightmedia8575
Жыл бұрын
F150 any time all day
@Welcometofacsistube
Жыл бұрын
Ram
@gabrielgonzalez9547
Жыл бұрын
F-150
@DWH300
Жыл бұрын
F150 is an easy choice
@joshhicks80
Жыл бұрын
F150 all day
Thank you for this comparison, like the fact that you try your best to get the trims as close as possible because there are other guys, doing reviews, but they base them on price and not trims, I prefer the way you do your reviews giving people the information and letting people worry about price themselves
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Jazzyexplorer
Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion Your reviews are always very good and fear and honest with lots of information about the vehicles not about price think you
@OBAS21666
4 ай бұрын
ford for me all
Great comparison! Ford for me,feature wise! Hopefully they get their quality control issues sorted,I know alot of manufacturers suffering same during covid and parts supply and quality.Still,Ford for me. .
Tundra has a full power rear window v the small window in the Ford. This you missed.
@parisachilles2682
Жыл бұрын
Great point! Many existing Tundra owners love that option!
@joshgutierrez7380
Жыл бұрын
Mehhh not a game changer option lol
@_E_B_
6 ай бұрын
A full rear window that goes down? OMG!!!!!!!!! 😜🤣🤣🤣
There's no F150 or Tundra anywhere on planet earth worth over $60,000. Absolutely insane!
The 348hp tune is only available in the base SR work truck trim. Every other trim (except Capstone and TRD Pro) gets the 389hp/479lb-ft tune as standard. The Toyota website says this clearly. As others have mentioned, the tow mirrors are optional on both the Tundra and F-150 and are there to see behind trailers that are wider than the standard mirrors. Also, the entire rear window on the Tundra is power up/down. Totally agree though on the difference in features and outward visibility.
@asvpab
10 ай бұрын
This guy trucks
I'm holding out for a plug in hybrid pickup. They'll be here soon.
I go for the tundra the price is more reasonable, you get so many fixtures from that price
@kenardazeez9593
Жыл бұрын
We know it's sarcasm....but, get real dude.🙄
@elionzenelaj4484
Жыл бұрын
@@kenardazeez9593 are u from us or canada?
Nice review for sure really good at it Sam you went over everything!
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton!
Kind of stinks that he couldn't get a hybrid, the differences are pretty big. The tundra doesn't get near as good MPG as the Powerboost, so not only is the tundra less efficient, it's slower. Can only go into full-electric below 18. The battery fills up the entire under storage of the rear seat, a real deal breaker. And probably the biggest - would be the lack of generator in a hybrid. Kind of feels like they Rush this truck to the market and they left a bunch of stuff lacking on the engineering side.
I have a '20 F150 Platinum (wife's daily) so it's not the updated body style but I would still take it over the Tundra. It has most of what the new gen offers (I wish it had the larger screen, 360 camera etc) but it feels the same as the new gen from behind the wheel and I believe the chassis and dimensions are all the same. We have really loved having it, esp after putting a MPT stg 1 tune on it. I looked at a Tundra a few months ago while helping my mother in law buy a car and I wasn't very impressed. It looks good but it doesn't feel as solid. I'm sure it's a great truck in its own right, but compared to the domestics, they all score about the same in reliability and to me, the domestics all do trucks better. I would not trade our '20 F150 for a new Tundra. At some point we will probably upgrade to the new F150 or maybe the Ram, mainly for the new I-6 and that Klipsh audio system.
I love em both!.infact they are among my 3 fav pick up truck brands,the third being Nissan.
The Tremor 402A Package is AWESOME!! Rides even better....
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Love that
The Tundra has the only rear window that is powered up and down of all Pick-up trucks.
@Thelegendking-yj4bm
Жыл бұрын
And cupholders?
@redd7188
Жыл бұрын
Actually Ford had a limited run of trucks where the entire rear window rolled down years ago.
I have to question your stated payload/cargo capacity on both trucks. I couldn’t find a Tundra Limited with a payload capacity above 1400 lbs. And a F150 with the Powerboost 3.5 with the Max tow package also has a payload below 1400. Please correct me if you know where I can buy either truck with the same equipment and a payload over 1600 lbs.
@willj3352
5 ай бұрын
You are correct, I have the 2024 tundra iforce max limited, and my payload is 1390 lbs!
That Ford has 7.2 kw propower on board, I know because its outlet setup is identical to mine. If it were the 2.4 or 2 you'd have 2 standard outlets but there are clearly 4 of those plus a 240
I have a 2023 powerboost hybrid and i love it
Those big mirrors are an option on the Tundra and are are available on some F150 models. While they may seem big and in the way at times, they are super handy and a must when towing a camper or other big trailer. I’ve owned Toyotas and Fords sand love them both, still a tough call for me as which is the best.
Just came from a video by motor feed channel and the f150 is doing baaaadd... mark ups, recalls, not just with the f150, but the 250, 350, marverick, bronco, and the ev versions! Anything from tpms, steering, transmission, catastrophic engine failure possibilities... i had no idea it was like that. And many of the XLTs are 55k and up! When in 2018 they were starting at 35k. I do like em but i think toyota is the way to go and i also like the looks on the new tundra a lot more but it is shocking how many problems for trucks that are expensive af! Ford also lost $2 billion in lawsuits!
I'm 6 ft and fit in the rear of the Tundra with no issues and plenty of head room. The problem is people with longer torso. They have issues. When they go in other trucks it's the same thing. You were almost touching the Ford headliner when you sat in the rear too.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Nahhhh ford had a lot more space in the back
@johnrambo4082
Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion it look the same when you sat in it as the Tundra. However, you did not sit in the middle rear seat of the Ford for all of us to see the difference.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Ford has way more space either way
Socks you’re wearing are my favourite feature lol
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Happy socks
The tundra has the better mirrors, rear window( sliding up/down) , interior LED lighting in high trims, and they look better when lifted a bit and bigger off road tires. I still love my 22 platinum 5.0v8 though.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Those mirrors are absolutely useless, and most of the time because they’re so big
@Jaimeleon20
Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion because they are big? I believe that’s the point, so you can have more visibility.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
@@Jaimeleon20 why would you need more visibility when you have 60 cameras in the car? I found no use of these. They actually reduce visibility
@Jaimeleon20
Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion I drive semi trucks, I know the importance of mirrors and visibility. I’ve owned a 2018 Tundra and now a 2022 platinum f150. The tundras bigger mirror Made it much more easier to see the side of the truck and other lanes. Didn’t even have a blind spot with them. My ford has a slight blind spot but it’s not terrible, it’s just the tundra is a little better. But Who really depends on Cameras? I guess some people need them , i think they are just good for parking perfectly, like getting close to a curb. But they aren’t as accurate. it depends on the person. I’ve started driving at 15 with a car with no cameras at all, it’s all about experience/skill/ preference at the end of the day.
@andrewrew1423
Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion how much did ford pay you? Lmao
As much as I would like to get the Tundra, Toyota has lost me with the lack of fully flat floor in the back. Ford’s ability to put up the rear seats take the cake for me.
@lgfriess3489
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, there's a lot I like about the Tundra but the flat floor is one many features I love about the F150. I'm always surprised more trucks don't have it.
Ford created that mirror style decades ago and they are available on the f150
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@e7bk
Жыл бұрын
On F350 and F250
@cliftonmatthews2667
Жыл бұрын
@@e7bkThey are available on some of the F150 trims.
I stopped looking at the tundra because of the back seat headroom (I am 6'6") and if you get a hybrid you lose the under seat storage in the 2nd row.
I have a 2022 F150 Platinum with the Powerboost that has been in the shop every other month since I owned it. Ford is the process of looking into a buy back deal because it has been so bad. I love the Ford, but it will be a Toyota for me because I need a truck I can actually drive and not have sitting in the repair shop.
@andrewrew1423
Жыл бұрын
Ford paid the reviewer lmao useless video
@casey10614
5 ай бұрын
yatzheeeeee
The Tundra is like a 2014 model F150 - v6 twin turbo - still has the hump in the back - etc.. The reliability in Toyota comes from not offering all the features of Ford and only releasing a new model every 15 years. i like Toyota's too - but it's the additional features you can't get with the Toyota that holds Toyota back.
Actually the optional side step on Tundra is more convenient. It hides out of the way. It is easier to step on because its on the side. I say better than the other manufactures. The bumper is not made to be stepped on in the first place. With the tailgate down you can't step on the bumper on most models. A bumper is not made to be standed on. It's to protect the rear.
@dallasfrost1996
Жыл бұрын
GM's bumper steps are by far the best in the segement. Easily accessible and won't suddenly fail on you. It doesn't take much to damage or rip off those deployable steps like on the Tundra or Ram, and Ford's tailgate step just requires too much unnecessary effort.
@johnrambo4082
Жыл бұрын
@@dallasfrost1996 if your talking about the side bed step that's on the higher trims of Tundra those are strong enough and out of the way. It's not part of the bumper, so it is better because you're not suppose to step on a bumper in the first place. It's not meant for that.
@dallasfrost1996
Жыл бұрын
@@johnrambo4082 The Tundra's deployable "bumper" steps sit lower than GM's proper built-in bumper steps. There's more chances for the Tundra's steps to get caught on potential obstacles and/or damaged on off-road terrain (like when approaching steep upward hills/off-road trails). Not to mention Toyota's steps are electronically operating, which could potentially malfunction as well. In comparison, GM's bumper steps are *fully* tucked away and are always accessible no matter what. GM's bumper steps are also actually designed to take weight, they've been doing this feature for almost a decade now. No issues with them. Simple but highly effective solution for bed accessibility. So effective in fact that Ford has now copied GM with this feature for their most recent Superduty trucks.
The trim you got in the Tundra makes 389 HP and 479 ft/lbs of torque. You quoted the specs for the SR trim Tundra.
If it doesn’t have a V8, I’m not considering it, and y’all can keep your hybrid. Don’t want one. I want a straight 5 liter V8 with a towing package. That’s why I have a truck - to tow big trailers. If you’re not giving me that, I’ll go somewhere else. Don’t care about any of the other bullshit.
no one else is offering the Pro Power Onboard 7.2Kw, so F-150 PowerBoost wins.
When is Ford bringing out that 6.8 in the F150?
I love the Ford F-150 Limited I love in literally every color but this one. This truly is a old man color I’m sure some one will love it
i was told the tundra rear window goes down.!
The ford tail gate closes automatically also
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@daytrading5456
Жыл бұрын
Yep... makes it easier for old folks.
I picked up my 2023 F150 XLT PB last month after ordering it last November. I picked F150 PB over 2023 Tundra over its features and design. I just don't like how new Tundra looks. For reliability, mine came with a bad turbo which was replaced under warranty but I also viewed few real Tundra owner's youtube videos and noticed the new Tundra also has some quality issues. I agree that Toyota is more reliable in general but their vehicles are often lack of new techs and new ones are not as reliable as old ones. I learned it from my recent experience with new Honda & Toyota that I sold recently. Moreover, Toyota dealers bear me still charge 3000-4000 markups on every vehicle on their lots. I drove mine 1100 miles back home but I got almost 10k off from its msrp.
That tundra gonna be around a lot longer more often than not lol
I really enjoy your reviews and honest opinion keep em coming please🫡
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Will do!
Sir. I'm a 2 year Powerboost Lariat owner. The Powerboost engine does comes on as needed to generate AC power. Your comment that it has its own generator doesn't paint a realistic picture. If you put a load on the AC power, the engine will run. I like mine, especially the 435 hp and 570 foot pounds of torque. I still get 25 mpg on 87 octain on the highway. Complaints... My seat and driver door rattle already. Kind of disappointing from 2 years of light use. Truck has remote start. However it almost always starts in electric mode. 2 draw backs to this.. 1) Air Conditioner doesn't cool effectively until the gas engine starts. I've started my truck remote 10 minutes early only to find the cabin and seats are still hot. 2) by starting in electric, your oil must sits in the pan. No oil circulating at low idle. Instead the engine kicks in while on the road and turning at 2,500 rpm. Not sure if this damages anything. However metal rubbing metal can't be good. Seems like Ford could fix this Over The Air by turning on the gas engine during remote start. At least when temps are above 80, or below 40. Let that gas engine warm up and circulate oil. I'd love to see an aftermarket plug in battery to extend electric range.
Let's talk when both trucks are at 100k, if there are any shortcomings with the Tundra, they will be in the rear view mirror, plus resale and of course reliability....
This video is brought to you by Ford! When you said the Ford feels more like a truck because it's feels softer and has a smoother ride, I almost fell out of my chair! I guess your version of a truck it to go to Costco to pick up toilet paper. That tiny rear window is so great! Well, only if you are pretending the Tundra doesn't have a full rear that opens!
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
This comment is brought to you by Toyota
@fuzz8668
Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion 100% Toyota owner!
I had to play back a portion of the video to make sure I heard something correctly, and… The Ford F-150 tested here is $108,000!!! Over $100k for an F-150. An F-150, a truck. And the Tundra is $80k! No wonder used cars are in such demand and their prices so high.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
108cdn, that’s fully loaded
In my opinion, the perfect truck has to have a more rigid suspension, less technology, reliability and rear window on the tundra 😎 and if one day I need my truck to park itself, it means I can't drive and I need a bicycle 😂
im only half way through the episode but you better fucking race these by the end
I will take a Toyota any day of the week over a Ford because I hate repair bills and the last Ford gave me hell. Even with the Wastegate issue which was identified and fixed I would buy that Tundra. One thing I hate is to still be making payments after warranty is gone and getting stuck with a huge bill. Odds are Toyota will cost less over total ownership. Just my opinion though I have seen some of the nightmares the Eco-Boost has caused. Ford is a Crap shoot you either get a good roll or a bad roll.
@toddolson7273
Жыл бұрын
Toyota is following as usual - V6 Twin Turbo, 10 speed, composite bed, blah blah.. they're good as long as you can live without the features other trucks offer. No Tow Hooks on a Tundra? Really?
@JasPlun
Жыл бұрын
@@toddolson7273 Believe me I can live without tow hooks or have them installed. Paying 10-12 grand for a ne w engine before it hits 100k after shelling out 70-80 grand is not for me I will let you domestic buyers enjoy that. Our business runs a fleet and I see 1st hand how often modern domestics break down and how expensive it is the fix. I will take my chances with Toyota being slower to adopt new tech so I do not have to be their beta testers paying the bill for them:P
@toddolson7273
Жыл бұрын
@@JasPlun Thats the beauty as you pointed out. You have a choice on getting different engine different features etc. if I were running a business it would be a different model for sure with less features and less to break. There’s a reason ford is selling 10x more than Toyota. BTW checkout the newly released 2023 reliability and forum on the Tundra.
I've owned six Toyotas, I think I'll stick to what I know and trust. Bells and whistles only carry so much weight with me.
@mkyhou1160
Жыл бұрын
I think there are two problems with the Toyota when comparing, both related Fords Aluminum. Fords won’t body rust (a big issue some climates, esp wheel wells), get much better fuel economy (my 2.7 eccoboost is amazing).
@robertpearson8798
Жыл бұрын
@@mkyhou1160 Aluminum doesn’t rust but it will corrode from road salt, a problem in my climate, so neither are perfect. If I wasn’t buying it as a tow vehicle the smaller ecoboost engine would be a plus (I know two people who have it) but I want the greater HP and torque of the bigger engine and I’m willing to pay for poorer mileage.
@sublimegreen
11 ай бұрын
Robertpearson...hope you dont own this one recall for platic part in gas linecthat might cause gas tank tovexplode. 168,000 Japanese trucks affected.
@robertpearson8798
11 ай бұрын
@@sublimegreen Leak fuel making a fire possible, If it is they’ll fix it , and it’s less than the 306,000 Ram trucks that were recalled for electrical fires, including the one my cousin owned that burned to a crisp.
@sublimegreen
11 ай бұрын
@@robertpearson8798 Stop Diverting the Issue...Your Japanese Tacoma Toyo has a serious recall the fuel tank could blow up. Toyota fan boy..This Japanese wannabe truck cant touch a Ram...
Your also wrong the 1794 comes with option for power running boards that also hide when doors is closed just like the Ford you show. I know because I own a fully loaded 1794.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Nop it doesn’t- i can see it on Toyotas website non automated
Tundra dumped the thirsty V8 and did what ford did ,V6 twin Turbo but Ford has the option for the V8, tundra no option. To me the tundra front end looks like an after market grill, the rear looks stunning, the ford has lots of bells and whistles, Take the F150
You can get the tow mirrors added in the f150 as well
The Tundra you are comparing is not a Platinum but a 1794. The engine is the same but strange that this obvious difference is wrong. Moreover, both the Platinum and 1794 offer the retractable running boards and bed step as an option, just like the Ford. Retractable running boards are not standard on the Ford.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
In Canada the Platinum trim can be purchased with a 1794 package - In the US it’s a Trim
@D2chukhna
Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion I was not aware. Thank you for clarifying.
SAME DOES NOT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT ONBOARD POWER. The F150 has a battery, and a large INVERTER. The only generator is used to charge the battery. Its sometimes called an alternator.
F150 ❤❤❤❤❤
Not gonna lie, I like them socks ;)
The big low sitting tail loghts on the Toyota is easy to get damaged i dont like that
Liked the video but no matter what the truck has I can’t affor 100,000. Lol
I bought a 23 Platinum Powerboost. I test drove a Tundra when shopping, and to me there is no comparison. Secondly, the Toyota dealership in my area is still charging markups on their Tundras. There’s no way I was going to pay a markup for a Tundra, or any other truck for that matter.
@daytrading5456
Жыл бұрын
Everyone wants one... unless you are an old man. Thus the premium. They are still flying off the lots before they are even unloaded.
@krasnaludek298
Жыл бұрын
Good choice … the F-150 is a beast! 👍🏻🇺🇸
@Keith.Vieira
Жыл бұрын
You'll be paying more then Markup in repairs on that Ford...
The last Ford truck I owned was in the shop more times than the previous four Toyotas. The wife's ten year old Honda was more reliable than that brand new F250.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
That sucks man. I had a Lexus IS500 same thing brand new. It’s painful to go thru that
@theantiqueactionfigure
Жыл бұрын
@Sam CarLegion the wife's 10 year old Lexus has been flawless. I plan on keeping it another ten at least.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
It all comes down to luck. My focus rs was flawless, my dad has an e class just passed 400k kms
If you’re gonna be biased then you’re off better not comparing them..🤦♂️
@daytrading5456
Жыл бұрын
Yep... he's a hardcore Ford fan.
Drag race them!!!
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Will do!
@allenstuck2861
Жыл бұрын
The Ford is the 🏆 🥇
I like both trucks, but at over 100k for the Ford I’d be living in it 😅. I just can’t believe how expensive vehicles have gotten. Wages certainly have not kept up with inflation. It’s hard to imagine how an average guy would be able to afford one of these or any other new vehicle for that matter. Crazy!
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
I don’t disagree with you
@studsauce7803
Жыл бұрын
Not only are new prices high but so are used.
Sam, a very important point about the backseats. The flat floor in the back seat of the F150, with the folding storage under the seats, allows us to slide our dog kennel into the back seat. We use a 2x6 piece on the floor, the front of the kennel to level it. Our dog and us love her in the kennel, inside the truck cab, as opposed to loose in the back seat area or on the seats, or in the bed of the truck. We tie down the kennel with straps, so it is safe in case of a wreck. She is protected, and has AC and heat, we use a heavy duty Gunner kennel, she cannot stick her head between the front seats and slobber, we use the single side of the back seat to hang extra clothes and she can’t get into them, she sleeps and relaxes in the kennel, instead of trying to help me drive by looking out the window and barking at squirrels, Lord knows, I’ve l already installed an auxiliary steering wheel and fake brake pedal in the front passenger compartment, so the wifey feels comfortable, giving me driving advice. Very important, we save the back sets from claw marks, even with a seat protector, you should see the back seat of my Jeep. Oh, about the mirrors, you can order the F150, with the larger, extending and power folding mirrors, found as standard equipment in the F250+, with the same features, as the Tundra mirrors. I plan on ordering the larger mirrors, they are more convenient and required for any significant towing. My opinion, anyway. Great review, I really enjoyed it. I will be ordering a new 2024 1/2 ton truck. Your review was one more reason why I am ordering the F150 Powerboost. PS, I had a 2012 F150 4x4, with the 3.5 Ecoboost engine and loved it. 120,000 miles, 6 years of commuting and trailering a Winnebago, without a single problem. Loved it. Did regular oil changes, as the truck computer system advised, between 8 and 10k miles, with the best synthetic oil I could buy, used the same oil every time. Did lab tests on the oil and had zero issues with the oil or the truck. Sold it in 2018 to a friend, he has 160,000 miles on it, without a problem.😊😊😊
Let's check back at 250,000 miles.
Ford is always pushing tech and trying to give everyone the comfort of a home, while still trying to be as reliable as possible, but its hard when trying to give everyone everything they want, peace of mind, which also comes in the mode of recalls and being able to fix them, unlike other brands where there is literally no help or service for them, like gm which over heats due to tight engine design, then you have dodge which makes decent engines but also has all the transmission problems and no servicing, toyota is over hyped the make is reliable as fuck compared to other brands cars yes they also are great but you have to also remember there made for thier peoples sizes thats why there so small, compared to american brands like ford you can fit 2 cows while tundra and the other brands can fit 1.5 cows, point is every brand company has thier own thing they offer just depends which you like and which you want to work with.
@issavibez394
Жыл бұрын
Toyota just doesn't offer much options
@afgoutlawz8729
Жыл бұрын
@@issavibez394 toyota very reliable and are smart they look at the demographic of the economy of how much ppl have $ and then base the design and build and everything around the price range which is very good thats why little to no options unless you go lexus, but then even lexus has small, tight builds aswell, and dosnt offer a luxury truck model to compare with ford, even though if they did come out with one it would probably destroy the markey of every american brand lexuary truck
@daytrading5456
Жыл бұрын
Yeah... they want to make the Ford comfort similar to that of sitting in an Archie Bunker recliner. Old man truck. The Tundra looks young, fresh, and on the leading edge of design. I don't put the Raptor in the F150 "old man" category. Nice looking truck for a Ford.
@afgoutlawz8729
Жыл бұрын
@@daytrading5456 lmfao old man are smart and wise, while young are still learning, anyways point is if a auto maker making all the amenities of a home thats perfect, just the way you love your home is same with ford when you have everything you want can go with you and you can enjoy it all, with peace of mind knowing the vechile itself offers it and you dont need to bring extra or do extra means alot, peace of mind for any family man. Toyota tundra loooks like a confused kid while ford looks a Man in fine italian suit.
@reneeandchrisforever
Жыл бұрын
@@afgoutlawz8729 Yes, the Ford will look like a man in a fine suit sitting at the dealer for repairs or recalls. If you can get past your fanboy mindset, you’ll realize the big three love to pile tech into their trucks that is poorly engineered or built. From over complicated motors to gimmicky options that inevitably fail. Brand loyalty and waving the flag will only cost you more money down the road.
Love my f-150 22 Lariat.
Tundra has a better second row. You can see and I’ve tried it for myself.m, that on the f150 the bench seat is lower to the ground and the seat provides less leg and thigh support. Feels like your knees are in your chest when sitting ins exons row of f150 as an adult.
Tundra's i-FORCE 3.5L twin-turbo V6 puts 389 horsepower and 479 lb-ft of torque 🤷♂️
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
“Powered exclusively by a twin-turbocharged V-6, the base version of the engine comes with either 348 or 379 horsepower, depending upon the model, while the more powerful hybridized variant produces 437 horsepower with 583 pound-feet of torque. Every Tundra employs a 10-speed automatic transmission with either rear- or four-wheel drive.”
Do the same comparison, with the exact same trucks, in 12 years.
On the F-150 that step that comes out is absolute trash it catches Sand and Stone inside it is a nightmare. Also on my 2016 that had that exact step the cover for the step actually it just clips in and it came off in the 1st year of use.
Easy choice … Ford builds the best trucks with the most options. Have owned 3 F-150s and all were extremely reliable. If I want a little commuter car, then I might consider something from Japan: Honda or Toyota.
So, you wanna tell me Toyota couldn't measture from arss to the roof and ensure there is at least room for 7.5ft. Toyota don't know where to compensate.
Ford can put all those gadgets and gizmos on them and more , but at the end of the day it's still a Ford. The Tundra has been engineered to last many miles , for longevity and reliability. To each their own......I buy Toyota even without all those gizmos . But thanks for your opinion
That is a 1794 Edition Tundra not a "Limited Platinum Edition Tundra", which does not exist. If you actually meant the "Platinum Edition Tundra" that does exist and sadly will never have a TRD Off-road option package until Toyota decides to make it an option.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Toyotas Info Paper shows: 2023 Tundra CrewMax Platinum with Option Platinum 1794 for$1200. So you are most definitely wrong :)
I had 4 Ford Expeditions and busted my last one in for a Tundra Limited 4x4 as I need an open bed now. So far the Toyota is fine except v for the really ugly front grill - talk about over kill. Also don’t line the dash board layout with small buttons. Gas mileage doesn’t seem as good as the Ford but it’s too early to tell as I only have 44 miles on the Tundra.
@hotelpv
6 ай бұрын
That grill on the Tundra is awkward. I am waiting to purchase the 2024 F150 instead. The refresh makes it look much better.
So I have had the Toyota tundra 2007 and little Toyota Tacoma many yes that’s all they have is reliability for sure if u looking for a engine last u half million miles go for it but if you’re looking for a real work truck Ford is the way to go yes, it might have issues recalls but I’ve had fords since I gave up on Toyota brakes would burn at 12,000 miles and suspension was weak for heavy payloads and gas was terrible in towing guess what ford has proven to me brakes have lasted way longer almost 45,000 or more miles more comfortable and pulls tows and payloads can handle way better there just great work trucks yes might not last more 200,000 miles but that’s why I sell them at 120,000 miles get new one and enjoy new ones all time guess what Toyota will last but u got out new paint job repairs after a long time also from keeping them to long so if u think about it it comes almost to about the same thing I feel ford has a better work truck and daily driver Toyota is cheap plastic inside and just engine and transmission will last but everything else will fall apart like any other car there always behind on technology so Toyota still has a lot of things to still improve on Chevy man the truck just sucks lol had it too payload is weak there system break if u over tow it it was always in the shop Nissan was better then Chevy I think the truck is just for looks only built like dirty not a rock lol
1794 is the best trim
I’m blown away by the headroom in the tundra, I’ve been in the back of a VW bug and that had more headroom.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
😶😶⬆️
@studsauce7803
Жыл бұрын
I am 6’1” and I fit in my ‘23 tundra just fine. I don’t feel cramped or like the headspace is too small.
@Steve-yr5vi
Жыл бұрын
@@studsauce7803 I'm 6'3" and fit in the Ford just fine.
@zacharymakos
Жыл бұрын
@@studsauce7803 damn okay, sam has gotta be hella tall then
Ford beats Toyota straight to the shop every time! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
He says, both have a 'great price.' Hahaha..... $70k+ without any possibility of negotiating down from MSRP (thanks to Joe Biden and his non-stop inflationary spending and zero results on fixing the supply chain) is not exactly what I would call a 'great price.' Also - I don't believe he mentioned another down-side to the Tundra: Tundra has a 'hump' in the center of the rear passenger floor, making storage of large boxy items difficult..... F150 is completely flat from door to door. And, if he checked on the forums, he would note that the Tundra is having massive issues with annoying air/wind leaks around the poorly designed door seals.... as well as flimsy interior hardware that breaks and rattles galore.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Great price for what they offer - ford is just better
Toyota number 1
Toyota is quality
The winner was chosen before the filming began. Honda Ridgeline !
Tundra was outdated before it left the assembly line. Atleast they got a good truckload sale of tablets to glue on that dashboard. Lol 😊
You review trucks and don’t know the tundra’s entire rear window opens?
I love the F150 all the way
Want the better quality better retaining value buy Toyota 🤙🏽😎
Toyota is the number one leading of recalls than ford than GM than Nissan
This guy doesn't know the mirrors on the Tundra are tow mirrors or that the rear window doesn't have the little added small window like the Ford does but that's because the whole window comes down on the Tundra he needs to do research before doing a video I sat in a 1794 Tundra in the back seat just an hour ago and the headroom is plenty and I'M 6 feet tall no problem not sure why he couldn't straighten his head up.
First person I’ve seen who admitted they liked the front of the new Tundra. 😳🤢. Ford has foldable tow mirrors as an option, too. Also, how about those front recovery hooks on that Tundra?? 😂
@daytrading5456
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't need them... 😆
@Steve-yr5vi
Жыл бұрын
@@daytrading5456 because people know the shouldn't risk taking it off road? The reason the Tundra doesn't have front tow hooks is to preserve their 2% reliability margin over Ford. When owners put front tow hooks on them, and bring it in for repair Toyota notes it's a "modified truck" and reject the warranty repair for that reason, indicates how much confidence they have in the Tundra.
I like the look of the 2023 Nissan Titan Platinum reserve over both of these
@cecilotto504
Жыл бұрын
Titan is about to be discontinued because there not selling enough
@issavibez394
Жыл бұрын
Nissan junk
@ssjMaximum22Goku
Жыл бұрын
@@issavibez394 Shows what you know
@jhardwood6960
Жыл бұрын
I think the titan is better as well.
@isaacstacoify
Жыл бұрын
Titans are the ugliest looking truck ever
I own a powerboost.. my suggestion is tundra.. the powerboost is junk.. yeah the powerboost gets great mpg, in most scenarios, and it is way more comfortable, but it squeaks and rattles, and is built like crap.. at 5k miles my drivers door arm rest is delaminating, the passengers headlight fills with water, and the mirrors as in this video are way too small. the sync 4 is a freemium application, you pay for everything but only if you allow them to record your driving habit's, speeds, and record you in the cabin, otherwise you get a radio and carplay/android auto that randomly disconnect. the only real bonus of the f150.. it's fast.. comfortable, and economical.. everything else the toyota is better.. and in 60k miles that's what I'll own..
Soo much for the money? Some of the highest, and most inflated prices Automobile buyers have ever seen. Ford Inflated the MSRP to stop Dealers from Marking up the trucks. These are not good deals. I Like both of these trucks. They are the 2 I would choose between when I buy one in the next year. But these prices are crazy, regardless of features. When the prices fall over the next year or two. They might become good deals again. But not now.
@andrewrew1423
Жыл бұрын
Will never go down anymore.
Ford Limited is more equivalent to tundra capstone.
The tundra has 389 hp, not 347!
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
“Powered exclusively by a twin-turbocharged V-6, the base version of the engine comes with either 348 or 379 horsepower, depending upon the model, while the more powerful hybridized variant produces 437 horsepower with 583 pound-feet of torque. Every Tundra employs a 10-speed automatic transmission with either rear- or four-wheel drive.” This is not the hybrid
@Jason_DS
Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegionthe model you drove had 389. You are referencing the SR trim. You were also wrong about the automatic running boards on the tundra.
@ktra5031
Жыл бұрын
Should have compared a capstone to a limited. Capstone come standard with the automatic running boards and automatic bed steps.
Can’t beat Toyota’s reliability and price. The Tundra has road presence as well. It’d be the pick for me.
@gabrielgonzalez9547
Жыл бұрын
New Tundra has been anything BUT reliable.
@ssjMaximum22Goku
Жыл бұрын
Kind of lame though that a pickup of that size has such a small cab on the inside for passengers though.
@gabrieldetwiler7078
Жыл бұрын
Toyota is not reliable anymore. They are just like any other brand anymore
@studsauce7803
Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielgonzalez9547 what’s your proof? And don’t bring up the wastegate issue. That effected less than 100 trucks.
@Steve-yr5vi
Жыл бұрын
You mean the 2% margin Toyota has over Ford in terms of reliability? And of course while Toyota has a dedicated department to refute warranty claims, Ford does not have that role, instead they work closely with customers to resolve issues and improve the vehicles to correct design to reduce warranty claims. I buddy of mine has that job at Ford for the Southeast. Keep in mind issues with sync contribute more than the 2% margin. so when you're actually talking components that matter the Ford is more reliable than the Toyota.
Bruh that's 1794 right
FORD lead in recalls last year. GM was number 2. That speaks volumes.
@gabrielgonzalez9547
Жыл бұрын
Not true.
@mikefoehr235
Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielgonzalez9547 That is what Ben Hardy reported in a recent video.
@ssjMaximum22Goku
Жыл бұрын
F150 probably has the most truck sales still, so that makes sense for the recalls. The Tundra was also called back for recalls as well.
@melvinhunt6976
Жыл бұрын
@@ssjMaximum22Gokuwhen you sell over 5 times as many, then the recalls will follow!
@ssjMaximum22Goku
Жыл бұрын
@@melvinhunt6976 That's the point. They will have more recall numbers as they've sold more units.
Let’s be honest, and the data supports it, the Tundra will be driving by the salvage yard where the Ford will be in 5 years. Just sayin…
@Slainself
Жыл бұрын
Average Toyota owners
That tailgate on the ford is full of nonsense.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Why?
@studsauce7803
Жыл бұрын
Ruler? Wobbly as stick that pops up. That step looks cheap.
@garys2157
Жыл бұрын
@Studsauce It's been around a while and works good, never used it, but the GM step looks easier to use.
@studsauce7803
Жыл бұрын
Ram makes the best idea I think. That half opening is great to have.
@dallasfrost1996
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Ford's tailgate step requires too much unnecessary effort to use. GM's bumper step is by far the best in the segement for bed accessibility
What is ,For Only Recall Duties ?😂😂
Ford looks like an old man's truck.
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
Yep
@SamCarLegion
Жыл бұрын
@Helicopter Dad! it’s true
@Louthemailman
Жыл бұрын
So does the toyota
@sergeysmelnik
Жыл бұрын
The ford will still look good in 20 years. The tundra is already ugly
@joshhicks80
Жыл бұрын
@@sergeysmelnik I was thinking the same thing