RE: tactile feel of the rear. Kids and dogs go in the back; therefore the hard plastic will hold up much better to their abuse than the soft touch material.

I wish Americans would have bought more Alltracks so we could’ve gotten the new version. Instead we get this.

@MotoManTV

3 жыл бұрын

1,000,000 % Agreed.

@RedBarchetta910

3 жыл бұрын

@@MotoManTV As a 2019 Alltrack owner, I concur! I call it my Swiss army knife on wheels.

@mkkmmk1

3 жыл бұрын

@@RedBarchetta910 Completely agree. I had a 2017 for three years. Moved up for more space, but would’ve gone to a Passat Alltrack if it had been available here.

@gabrieldetwiler7078

3 жыл бұрын

I love my 2017 alltrack. Too bad they quit selling them cause I want a mk8 Alltrack badly

Mild hybrid would be interesting to see here. Not sure if vw intends to bring that in the US market since they seem to be going full speed with full EVs

I hope you will be getting the new Golf-R for review as well. Very informative, very concise, very much considering a new MKVIII GTI or Golf-R depending on pricing and options.

@MotoManTV

3 жыл бұрын

It's been a bear to schedule . . . we had it booked, then some folks before it crashed the one car on the west coast. So, we wait . . .

I believe cornflower blue is actually the same color as Shark blue - they’re the same color code.

What is the “towing capacity” of the 2022 VW Taos?

The new small crossovers I see driving around NYC have gone up dramatically. Many friends who would have taken public transport to work in the boroughs now want to drive as they had to during Covid.

We own a fully loaded model. pretty good on gas for a North American vehicle. It has a bit of a flat spot on the throttle for sure....we drive it around town in sport mode. its phenomenal in the snow and drives nice. Id like VW to come out with a fix for the flat spot. Its my wifes car and she loves it. I drive a Toyota Tundra and a Jag XJ.

Corn Flower Blue was actually lifted from the MK7 GTI "Rabbit" edition. Its the color to have on this Taos if you are so inclined to own one.

Ah! Kornblumenblau! That is an old-school Audi Color. Nice to see it again, but it seemed to have changed a bit in terms of brightness. Looks a bit lighter now, but this could be down to the lights and my screen.

1) The price is WAY too expensive for a non-German-made vehicle. 2) There's no option for a powered trunk. 3) The driver's side should have a ceiling-mounted hand grip. 4) The engine is too small.

@jakedunham7709

3 жыл бұрын

I have one and the engine is fine, actually offers a lot of power and handles EXTREMELY well. Almost feels like a SUV version of a jetta! engine is turbocharged to add a little extra boost. As for hand grip and powered truck, couldnt answer that. Hand grip seems a little bit petty but the trunk i was surprised about. Still a very nice little car, leasing for $230 a month, so price doesnt seem that outlandish

I’d like to see a comparison of the Taos with the Hyundai Kona. Seems like you can option out both cars in a similar fashion and price.

@goni274

3 жыл бұрын

Kona is great and has been reviewed as such. It does have a smaller size with less cargo capacity. With the smaller size I am pretty sure it would take pot holes and general bumps not as nicely (to put it mildly) than the Taos. The Kona should be faster though. A good question to ask this comparo! I still have to say "ouch" when the delivery charge to Canada on the Taos is $1900 and in the US only what about $1000. Guessing the Kona delivery costs are similar.

@travisp11

3 жыл бұрын

@@goni274 I can’t remember what our window sticker said on our 2020 but I think it was close to $1000

@goni274

3 жыл бұрын

@@travisp11 in the US on delivery you are saying. In Canada it’s a whopping $1900!

"von Deutschland", sure - via Mexico! As one whose father was born in Guadalajara - a day's drive from VW's huge facility outside Puebla - I say ¡viva la raza, viva la causa!

@BoopSnoot

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone hates on Trump, but if we still had him there's a very good chance that all that manufacturing would have moved to the US. German cars made here such as the Mercedes built in Alabama have WAY better quality control than those from Mexican plants, and probably not bad for our economy either.

@stephenhendricks103

3 жыл бұрын

@@BoopSnoot Yeah, right. Just like the huge FoxConn chip factory that Trump was so proud of bringing to Wisconsin, eh? And like the Lordstown, Ohio GM factory that Trump told the Magaheads would enable them to stay and prosper there. Then there's the renaissance in coal production Trump trumpeted. All were busts just like the rest of Trump's unmet promises.

@BoopSnoot

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenhendricks103 Yes, right, he had a huge impact with the stoppage of numerous outsourcing plans due to the inherent risk dropping stock prices for anyone talking about moving, along with new production plans having been moved to the US rather than Mexico, along with a dramatic drop in H1B visa issuance as when not outsourcing jobs employers were falsely claiming that no Americans wanted say chemical engineering jobs when in reality they simply wanted to pay ridiculously low wages to Indians and Chinese and others that would work for pennies in order to get a visa to the US where they could have children that would be automatically naturalized US citizens. Don't let partisan politics blind you when either wing flapping the confused eagle we call the US does something that benefits the American people, such as trade policies that, no matter how successful, at least make a real attempt to stop the bleeding that is the massive trade imbalance. Remember, when a country has such a huge trade deficit, its actually economically advantageous for the country to have no trade at all than all that revenue leaving the country.

Many reviewers are saying the fwd Taos with 8 speed drives a lot better than with awd dct. I just came back from test driving the fwd Taos and I can definitely say it is fun to drive without any lag when accelerating from a stop!

@R56Cooper

Жыл бұрын

@japanwatchconnection totally agree. VW should release a Taos GTI or R-- with 200+ hp-- that would be really nice.

Good to see VW isnt putting touch sensitive (or not at times) buttons on all their steering wheels. To me that and the same for the climate controls for the climate control are huge drawbacks of the MK8 GTI. Having said that, I dont think the world really needs another small crossover.

Completely Agree! for $35k I would like the top trim to have a hybrid system

Though it's not surprising to see the Taos as just another subcompact SUV, a more nuanced perspective suggests it's actually the replacement of the basic Golf for the North American market. (The basic Golf has been withdrawn from the US and in all likelihood won't be back.) As that replacement the Taos provides many of the same features as the Golf. It's a small vehicle (though larger than several other sub-compacts) that with an abundance of interior room. More than any other in its class. The 1.5L turbo is no powerhouse but it's more than ample for urban and suburban traffic and performs well both on long freeway slogs and secondary roads. It doesn't have the same off-road appeal as the Jeep Compass or the CrossTrek but it doesn't pretend to. No silly plastic cladding, the Taos, like the Golf, is meant to face no environment more challenging than an occasional gravel road. With the basic Golf gone the Taos, built and designed for North America, is a good replacement. It's worth noting, by the way, that those who hope VW will add an "R" version with the iconic 2.0L EA888 engine should be careful what they wish for. The GTI isn't a sacred cow for VW and a performance version of the Taos might end up replacing the GTI (and the Golf R) just as the current version bumps off the basic Golf.

If VW gave the new GTI that touchscreen and air con center stack, it would have been perfect.

How about offering it with the Golf R powertrain and marketing it as a 'baby' Macan GTS?

Canadians, test drive the car in winter before buying it. It is because, with a 1.4L engine in the Golf, the engine takes a minimum of 40mins to warm up to send the warm car in the cabin. This is a major problem in the prairies and there are several claims on VW to buy back the car. So with a 1.5L engine for a compact SUV, I believe you will run into similar heating problems in the winter.

@davidschultz29

3 жыл бұрын

I have a 2.0 Tiquan, and it warms up faster than any vehicle that I've owned. Also live on the Prairies of Cda. The NA Golf 2.5 takes a while for sure, but even it isn't 40 minutes. The turbo engine in the 2.0 Tiq' seems to do the trick. Presumed the turbo 1.5 would be similar. Raynor, thanks for the info. I'll look into this.

This seems to be replacing the regular non-GTI Golf in the lineup because that's where the buyers are going I guess. I will stick with my Golf 1.8 T for now...

@ahsanmalik1013

3 жыл бұрын

Regretting not getting Golf 1.8 TSI but Jetta 1.4 TSI made more sense due to familial reasons.

@goni274

3 жыл бұрын

Me too but with my 18 Sportwagen 1.8T. It is in Canada a "Highland" trim and has most of the safety this Taos has but mine "parks itself too!" No fancy digital though. Ok I like the 6 speed dual clutch I have, the independent suspenscion and the power of the 1.8. Only thing I miss in my Sportwagen is height. The Taos has a bit more and I am not sure it makes much difference. Now the height in a Tiguan would but that is a whole other ball game. I still have two yrs of the four on warranty on my Sportwagen and so far it has been "bullet proof!" So fun to drive, manouverable, functional etc, etc! Go Ni go figure!

@BoopSnoot

3 жыл бұрын

That's what subcompact crossovers have been for a while now, lifted hatchbacks. American *NEW* car shoppers are now on average 59 years old and obese, so having slightly taller vehicles with very large door openings like crossovers have are easier to get in and out of for the mobility impaired due to age and/or obesity.

I agree that it's not 35K good. I just picked up a FWD SE trim for 28K and that's really the highest I wanted to pay for one as my daily driver. It is spacious and peppy, but there is some turbo lag for those who really like to stomp on the gas from a stop. Nice infotainment setup with SiriusXM and wireless CarPlay works flawlessly yet the digital cockpit in the lower trims like mine is really just a digital speedometer. Simply put, don't go over $30K if you buy the AWD model. The FWD is giving me 40 mpg on 1 hour highway commutes with a nice comfortable quiet ride- and without a CVT :). It does have a timing belt so you're looking at a $1000 replacement at 90-100K miles if you keep it that long. In short, it is a transportation box made to appeal to the masses.

@MultiFabar

2 жыл бұрын

Are the basic speakers good enough for you?

@philweiland5391

2 жыл бұрын

@@MultiFabar I think they could be better.

Hello sir! Do you think that cars with petrol and diesel engines will disappear from their production in the future? I don't want that at all! .... Please don't😥😥😭😢

Isn’t the side mirrors turn signal a good Safety optin, but VW ignores it bummer.

Great color, but it needs more power and a sunroof. Please give Kumo’s can opener back so he can get to work on this thing. Vielen dank!

@MotoManTV

3 жыл бұрын

Will do, sir, stat!

@jakedunham7709

3 жыл бұрын

sel comes with a panoramic sunroof!

Bring back the 200 hp turbo (like in the old style, shorter 2016 Tiguan) and then maybe…

Looks like a Tiguan to me!

Definitely be a fun zippy car wth the golf R motor

Bought that exact car.

Why make comments like "It's not a GTi..." I can see that. I typed in Taos when I searched... Its not supposed to go like a sports car. I'm looking for a family suv... hence the search.

Tactile for the Win. redundant physical and touch screens for safety and convenience.

I just got a Taos and wonder if an Audi Q3 might have been a better awd choice? You are light on Audi reviews. Seems odd.

Very nice SUV

Having recently started watching a LOT of car reviews in prep for buying my first one in over a decade, I can't help but notice that the majority of people who do KZread car reviews appear to be the absolute worst choice of people to be doing the job. Case in point, MotoMan opens this video by proceeding to give us his opinions on a vehicle aimed at a portion of the market he openly admits he doesn't understand without any attempt to justify why his opinions are in any way relevant. See also reviewers who advise that you should get a GTI or Integra with a manual after straight up admitting that the automatic will do a better job and give a better experience than anyone but a professional driver could manage. Also ones who begin reviews by immediately turning off a bunch of features that annoy them personally (engine auto-stop, HUDs, lane keeping) despite the fact that their job is to review the vehicle as delivered - show us the featues and let US decide whether they are worthwhile, that's your job here.

The front has all the wrong parts blacked out and those gosh dang fake exhaust chrome things at the back NEED TO STOP.

Meanwhile there are likely one hundred Subarus for every VW in Taos at present.

Come out with a GTI Taos

Those wheels just look way too big for me. I find the lack of sidewall discomforting

@BoopSnoot

3 жыл бұрын

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

I think it's because a new Highlander, Explorer, Jeep Grand, etc is going to set you back 60 grand. That's why they're wanting cars like this--top of line Taos is about 34K.

@MotoManTV

3 жыл бұрын

US$60K for those types of cars is criminal. We will be talking about that more in future episodes.

I’m just so disappointed that VW continues to disappoint with their SUVs… it’s rather embarrassing… and I own and 2021 VW Tiguan R Line black. It’s sluggish, unresponsive and boring…. And he’s totally right, I ALWAYS have to drive it on Sport mode to even feel any sort of joy…

Isn't it just like standard european Tiguan?

@goni274

3 жыл бұрын

Good thought. Wonder what the comparison in numbers is?

@PtrkHrnk

3 жыл бұрын

@@goni274 For the dimensions it's give or take few millimeters. The biggest difference would be +21 mm for Tiguan in length.

I feel like VW's line is just predicated on "Mailing it in". Same engines, same transmissions, same look, total snoozefest. The VW electric thing is the worst offender, it's like this once great company has completely given up. It's sad, I used to love VW and owned a few.

@Blackdawn80

3 жыл бұрын

You are describing every mainstream automaker in the world. They are all "mailing it in" by replacing comfortable highway carving sedans with frumpy cross overs for overweight Americans and Europeans.

@MrSchn3ll

3 жыл бұрын

@@Blackdawn80 That's why I drive a 911...

@davidschultz29

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrSchn3ll So a 911 owner trolls KZread slagging sub-compacts to feel superior.

@MrSchn3ll

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidschultz29 Sorry if I offended your love of shitboxes. If you haven't noticed, this channel mainly covers performance cars... so, you could maybe find a safe space where your feelings won't get hurt?

@davidschultz29

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrSchn3ll No offence. Just amused. Where did I say I like shitboxes? Sorry if I "triggered" you.

And now the really bad news. August 10, 2021 VW issues a stop sale order to US dealers for all 4motion AWD equipped Taos units due to reports the engine is unexpectedly cutting off when the vehicle comes to a halt.

I just found out the ClubSport Edition of the new MK-VIII GTI is not coming to the USA and Im very disappointed by that. I have always wanted a ClubSport GTI and the latest one seems absolutely perfect in every way but of course, marketing departments are run by clueless people who have no idea just how many people would charge into the showrooms for ClubSport GTIs

@stephenhendricks103

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry, my friend. The marketing folks at VW know quite well what Americans are willing to pay for in a VW. And it's not the MK8 ClubSport. Just as it isn't a European spec Passat or a Touareg. Nor the delightful California camper. We're fortunate that VW has promised Americans a MK8 Golf R and a GTI, neither of which will set any sales records. Your best option is to get a GTI and a Stage I tune with a backup warranty from a tuning vendor like APR for an additional thousand dollars.

@wallacengineering8096

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenhendricks103 Yes very true I tuned my old MKIV GTI back in the day and it made quite the difference. Its just such a bummer about the Club-Sport because Americans would buy it for sure. According to a review the Club-Sport in Europe costs 2,700 euros over the standard GTI so in the US it would likely have a starting MSRP around $34,000-$35,000 making it a compelling option versus the Honda Civic Type-R and Hyundai Veloster-N. Im sure plenty of people would be interested to get near Golf-R performance for $5000 less.

@stephenhendricks103

3 жыл бұрын

@@wallacengineering8096 Again, sorry but your arithmetic won't work. The price of a GTI ClubSport in the UK starts at the equivalent of $42,500 without adding the 20% or so for VAT and licensing. And that price doesn't include options including DCC, HUD, sunroof, leather upholstery, and a premium sound system all of which VW has routinely added as standard options to US spec GTIs to meet American consumers' expectations. That puts the hypothetical price of a US ClubSport at the price point of a Golf R which no doubt would have to be increased and run smack dab into the price of an Audi. VW isn't about to risk cannibalizing Audi sales (and profit) with a GTI that hits $45K. And American consumers aren't going to opt for it either. www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a36625411/2021-vw-gti-clubsport-drive/

@wallacengineering8096

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenhendricks103 Well thats the thing, it wouldn't be $42,000 over here. You see Europeans pay more for all of their VW models. In exchange they get more premium features and details that we do not get in the USA. In Moto-Man's MK-VIII GTI review, he went over European pricing and as it turned out, the fully loaded GTI he was reviewing costed $59,000 in equivalent USD because it was the German market model. Moto-Man has tons of experience in the industry and he pointed out that this is the way it goes with every VW. To make the cars competitive on price in America, they strip out a bunch of little features and subtle details to make the car cheaper. He said that while his review sample was $59K, he expects US models to start at a base price of $30K-$31K, just a bit more than the current MK-VII GTI, which of course makes sense. So if the Club-Sport was brought over, it would of course receive the same treatment to pull the price down and would indeed start at $35K-$37K.

@stephenhendricks103

3 жыл бұрын

@@wallacengineering8096 I'm very familiar with the difference between Euro and US spec VWs. But you're missing the point. The USD price equivalent of $42,500 cited by C&D is already stripped of numerous features that are routinely included as standard in US spec VWs. Your estimate based on the simply adding $2700 to Moto-Man's $30K-$32K for a de-contented GTI isn't a car that VW (and its dealers) are willing to offer in the US since its appeal would be limited to the minuscule number of buyers willing to sacrifice amenities, bells, and whistles solely for straight line performance and as a track toy. Believe me, if VW dealers thought they could sell a stripped GTI ClubSport at $35K-37K, the transaction price of an Autobahn GTI, they'd let out the same howl they put out when VW considered dropping the Golf R in the US in 2018. I'm afraid you're making the common error of many self-defined "enthusiasts" who believe there's a massive potential demand for track toys and stoplight drag racers that simply doesn't exist.

coilovers to get it lower. mmm stage 3 Taos? edit: eww 158 HP?

Sir, you are emphasizing the wrong syllable when saying "TIguan"

well ill take the kona or even cx30 over this thing i guess

Luv my Taos. It's not perfect but no one does comfort the way the Germans do. 🧐

This isn’t what VW is meant to be. I drive an Audi A3. I firmly believe that VW has gotten so cheap in North America, it is even turning me off from Audi. The Jetta was on an amazing trajectory until the last two generations. The Jetta was never meant to be a Corolla, Civic, Elantra competitor. I firmly believe the Audi A3 is what the Jetta is supposed to be, not to the oversized cheap version of today. When VW thought their customers were cross shopping the Japanese brands is when everything went south. VW customers of the 80s, 90s, early 20s wanted a proper German car but did not want to pay for a BMW or Mercedes. VW buyers were willing to pay a premium over the Japanese and American brands. They wanted a simple, powerful, solid German car. The Jetta, Atlas, Tiguan and now this are so so sad.

@goni274

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed on all points except that A-3 is over priced at the top end trim and it's gas mileage is a zonk.

@kevinroberts361

3 жыл бұрын

Well said.....

I am a VW Guy. VW needs to GET RID OF the FAKE exhaust cutouts in the bumper. Makes no sense. Either make the bumper smooth or actually exit the exit exhaust through the bumper cutouts. We all know they are fake. Duh! Which brings me to another point. The Taos has the 4Motion which back in my day(I'm 54) was called the Synchro on the Vanagon and Quantum and even on the Golf(in other countries but not the USA(scratching my head). The 4Motion name is boring. The 4Motion(Synchro) Taos has the 7 speed DSG(dual clutch) transmission which means that VW MUST make a Taos R. And I am not just talking about an "R Line" cosmetic R Taos. I am talking about a full fledged Taos R(or GT version) with a 240hp GTI engine. We deserve to have this in the USA. Heck in Europe the VW provides the Tiguan R line with ACTUAL performance goodies. Why not the USA? Okay okay, enough complaining. I agree that there is plenty of competition for the VW Taos and this is why VW needs to make it stand out. Most sales will be those who are VW nuts already. But if VW does make a Taos R(GT) or an "Off Road" version with some flaring and large/wider suspension the Taos will do VERY nicely in the USA. My personal preference as far as that huge panoramic sunroof is that I prefer to not have it at all. From what I understand having a sunroof makes it so there needs to be additional bracing and in the structure and therefore make it heavier. Also, I cannot imagine the repair costs to something that large in the future and for privacy while driving inside the vehicle I do not like all that light coming into the cabin. VW, please provide an upscale VW SUV with the option of NOT having a sunroof. Also, what happened to fog lights??

For the same price as a 2021 Tiguan R-Line Black, man does that Taos look cheap.

So when will they bring the audi equivalent rs1 to the USA the fun cousin to this one ?

Talk s l o w l y when it accelerates. Still going Still going……. Ist es wirklich aus Deutschland, wenn es in Mexiko hergestellt wird?

@MotoManTV

3 жыл бұрын

Gute Frage.

Get rid of the ventilated seats and the interior lighting and regular gauges with 60 more hp and a 0-60 of 6.7 seconds not 9.7 9.7 seconds 0-60 means with a family of 4 your looking at nearly 11 seconds to highways speeds! Looks great im sure it's smooth for the segment. A prius will be passing you with double the MPG!

@stephenhendricks103

3 жыл бұрын

What nonsense. A 2017 Rav4 had a 0-60 time of 9.3 seconds. I don't recall hearing of RAV4s being run over trying to reach highway speeds. Consumers shopping in this segment aren't looking for scalding acceleration and those who regularly seat 4 passengers (plus the ubiquitous canine) are more likely to consider the Tiguan. Furthermore, VW is VERY unlikely to risk cannibalizing sales of their best selling model, the Tiguan, by putting the ubiquitous EA888 engine in the Taos.

@AustinF516

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenhendricks103 everyone has their own ideal of what "scalding acceleration" is. For some people in some environments it's all you might ever need or hope for. 6.7 seconds is hardly even brisk. Additionally younger more inexperienced drivers typically have less ability to judge speeds of other cars. Providing them a car with fair acceleration is more important than somone like you since I'm sure you have years of experience behind the wheel.

@stephenhendricks103

3 жыл бұрын

@@AustinF516 I'm not sure that many would agree that providing "younger more inexperienced drivers" with substantially faster acceleration is a positive in terms of overall safety. In any event, automakers make decisions based on sales expectations and there is virtually no evidence that higher performance is a major priority among the bulk of consumers looking to purchase a subcompact SUV.

@AustinF516

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenhendricks103 you are misrepresenting my view. I did not advocate for "substantially faster acceleration". I would advocate having cars on the road that are closer to the average acceleration of all the other cars on the road. I'm not suggesting that every car has sport car capabilities. The excuse is nonsense honestly. If a 1.5 turbo can fit a 2.0 can fit. Nobody in their right mind thinks Jetta GLI is an insane amount of power.

@stephenhendricks103

3 жыл бұрын

@@AustinF516 Sorry. You seem to be shifting the grounds of the discussion. I didn't say the 2.0L EA888 engine couldn't fit in the Taos.What I said was that VW is VERY unlikely to equip the Taos with it is the risk of cannibalizing sales of its best selling model, the Tiguan.

Weirdly enough I think it looks better than the Tiguan inside and out

You should get straight when "you and I," and "you and me" are appropriate. You're confusing the two. Hearing the confusion is like the proverbial finger nails on the blackboard phenomenon.

@ricome169

3 жыл бұрын

shut up!

The total package...NOT!

Wrong bud. To YOU is a no. To others is a yes.

"You and I, we're in the minority now-a-days..." You have always been. This is the problem with self-described "car guys" deciding to review actual, high-volume, regular cars. You aren't willing to see/capable of understanding/interested in knowing what the majority of the world wants in a transportation appliance. And yes, to the overwhelming majority of people, that's what these machines are. They are not toy time machines to a graying man's lost youth. Nor are the latest (expensive, unreliable) engineering developments attainable to someone who also wants to house and feed offspring.

@Link_1129

3 жыл бұрын

But, and hear me out, we know we're in the minority. The issue isn't that we despise high-volume cars that aren't geared towards enthusiasts. We just hate seeing new crossovers added to a sea of boring crossovers when there could be more high-volume sedans and hatches, the former of which aren't immediately needed when someone has or is about to have their *first* child. This particular case just happens to be enthusiasts lamenting the lack of visual variety on the road.

@stephenhendricks103

3 жыл бұрын

@@Link_1129 If self-styled "enthusiasts" did more than "lament" and actually purchased vehicles there would be more "variety" on the road. Frankly, I share the preference for sedans and hatches. (I currently own a GTI...my third.) And I'm actively considering an Arteon or a KIA Stinger. But I can hardly blame VW for producing vehicles that actually move off dealer lots.

@Link_1129

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenhendricks103 We do. The problem is, again, we're in the minority of purchasers.

@stephenhendricks103

3 жыл бұрын

@@Link_1129 And for some obscure reason automakers aren't non-profit organizations devoted to satisfying folks like us. :)

@Link_1129

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenhendricks103 Exactly.