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2022 Top 10 Tools from Germany and Switzerland based companies. Wera, Gedore, PB Swiss take the cake

amzn.to/3Gj5xx0 Here are my 2022 Top 10 Tools from Germany and Switzerland based companies, not necessary where the tool was sourced, forged, or assembled. Wera, Gedore, and PB Swiss take the cake. A Ko-ken snuck in from Japan, so there is an bonus. And for those who read this far, Knipex will have it's own Top 10 video. Stay tuned!
The angled Gedore pliers are a great deal right now on Amazon. Let's see how long that lasts!
amzn.to/3Gj5xx0
And the others in order of appearance:
XXL Joker wrench: amzn.to/3GlGYQf
PB Swiss small dead blow: amzn.to/3PRd35u
Wera flexible bit holding screwdriver: amzn.to/3vj0Ywr
(slim version of above): amzn.to/3FSiSep
PB Swiss stubby with bits: amzn.to/3vjY0Yq
Gedore angle head combination pliers: amzn.to/3Gj5xx0
Wera ratcheting T-handle 1/4 square: amzn.to/3C0M4ys
Hazet 1/4 square Phillips driver: amzn.to/3GjGvOp
(Wera ratcheting T-handle hex bit holding): amzn.to/3C0M4ys
PB Swiss ratcheting screwdriver long shaft: amzn.to/3GhOETk
Wera Hex bit set, long, metric: amzn.to/3I3rIsc
Wera Diamond hex bit set: amzn.to/3C2zfns
PB Swiss Stubby Coin driver: amzn.to/3WJXZc5
Wera Joker small 10-13mm wrench: amzn.to/3GhmVSS

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  • @alexmoll8372
    @alexmoll8372 Жыл бұрын

    It was a great year for tools! I picked up almost all of those myself. The coin driver is a godsend for replacing batteries on certain small electronics. Bicycle computers immediately come to mind, but I'll randomly find other devices that have a battery door designed to be removed with a coin - ouch!

  • @littlejimmy7402

    @littlejimmy7402

    Жыл бұрын

    I've been close to pulling the trigger on the coin driver but I always come back to a question I think you can answer, is it easy to tear up an electronic device trying to change the battery with that thing?

  • @chrischambers5482
    @chrischambers5482 Жыл бұрын

    Slip in a little Doc. Putting a Japanese tool in your top 10. Or do you need to do a top 10 Japanese tool haul for 2022? Yep need to do that. Thanks

  • @joehart3826

    @joehart3826

    Жыл бұрын

    Koken is so good it features in every video now.

  • @kittytrail

    @kittytrail

    Жыл бұрын

    no problem mixing japanese tools with german ones, it's still Axis tools. you should check some of Beta offerings like the 1150HPC 180 HyperCut or their 1201E/DZ DZUS screwdriver since you've got, allegedly, a soft spot for those... 😼

  • @banana_bread_at_work

    @banana_bread_at_work

    Жыл бұрын

    Was just about to search out a Japanese top 10

  • @Mack_Dingo

    @Mack_Dingo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kittytrail Axis Tools, made me spit out my coffee🤣😂😂😂

  • @martinsnibbor7691
    @martinsnibbor7691 Жыл бұрын

    Those joker wrenches are no joke , I’m an electrician I use them all the time for compression fittings . Great review

  • @danstheman33
    @danstheman33 Жыл бұрын

    Those aren't the holding function Wera hex keys, those are the standard long ones. The HF version has a ball detent (a tiny steel ball bearing) on one side of the hex, which positively holds the fastener on the end of the wrench.

  • @maxlvledc
    @maxlvledc Жыл бұрын

    "It's Glorious!" Catchphrase found.

  • @georgeferlazzo7936
    @georgeferlazzo7936 Жыл бұрын

    Hello again Doc Thank you for another Great Video 👍 Happy New Year's to you and your family 👪

  • @masoodamg6633
    @masoodamg6633 Жыл бұрын

    It was great my friend. Your tools are one of the best. I also love good tools and buy them wherever I see them. I also have some of your tools and sometimes I bring them and look at them and enjoy them. Thankful👍👍👍👏👏👏

  • @hansangb
    @hansangb Жыл бұрын

    @7:16 I love all things Wera. But those diamond bits are news to me. TY!

  • @apistosig4173
    @apistosig4173 Жыл бұрын

    Coin Drivers - battery cells / chainsaw fuel / bar oil caps - awesome

  • @maxlvledc
    @maxlvledc Жыл бұрын

    You should check out a fix it sticks set for carrying in your pocket every day.

  • @three-phase562
    @three-phase562 Жыл бұрын

    Gedore angled pliers - circa 8 hours after the video and no longer available on Amazon!! I have the NWS long-nose version of this and they are great for panel wiring. Some great choices, thanks for the video.

  • @pzwolski

    @pzwolski

    Жыл бұрын

    Is amazon the only place you can buy tools?

  • @three-phase562

    @three-phase562

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pzwolski I can buy from other places, it just makes me chuckle when something linked on a fairly high KZread channel on Amazon suddenly increases in price or becomes unavailable.

  • @Jordan__Sloan

    @Jordan__Sloan

    Жыл бұрын

    The nws are must have, snap on makes one too

  • @grooviefan

    @grooviefan

    Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant , no mention of the brand of the last wrench.

  • @toolrestoration
    @toolrestoration Жыл бұрын

    A lot of interesting tools come from Germany , strong and reliable , Switzerland , chocolate and pocket knives can't go wrong !

  • @davidweston9115
    @davidweston911511 ай бұрын

    My favourites are not made anymore. Stanley Hurwood wooden handle No. 20, No. 45, from 1950s production. The handles and shafts on those are better than anything since. You can put a 1959 vintage Stanley phillips screwdriver in a phillips screw, such as in a door lock, and walk away from it. The screwdriver will just stick out of the wall as if it's glued into the screwhead. No magnets. And this is a heavy full length screwdriver with full length shaft. Then you can use that same screwdriver for 30 years and do the same trick again. Original price $0.20. I find with a round softly fluted wooden handle you have all the torque you need, but also can spin it freely and no need for a ratchet screwdriver. When Stanley switched to those horrible yellow and black plastic handles in the mid 1960s my dad went to all the hardware stores and bought all the remaining wooden ones. These days some German companies make wooden handle screwdrivers. Connex seem to have a nice set made in Germany.

  • @frank_texas7400
    @frank_texas74009 ай бұрын

    I love knipex the most and I enjoy every second I get to use any knipex plier regardless of the task, also for screwdrivers Wiha is my favorite they just feel right , I just picked a wera beater and the handle is not for me but it outperforms anything I used before for beating, poking and prying, also got the wera joker combination wrenches and I am yet to use them but they feel like the are part of my hand on the ergonomics side, I want to bite the bullet and get a Hazet 1/2 ratchet and socket set but is hard to give away my proto cause i got the one with the spudge, I am an Industrial Journeyman electrician so German tools are my go to for a frustration free day

  • @davidgold5961
    @davidgold5961 Жыл бұрын

    9:06 I have a wrench which is patented in 1915 which has the exact same function as the wrench shown at this time spot.

  • @maikelbrito4016
    @maikelbrito4016 Жыл бұрын

    Nice selection of tools, Happy new years men.

  • @jackbateman6839
    @jackbateman6839 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for a wonderful! Your channel is great! Love watching your videos and great recommendations thank you. Looking for great new year Doc keep up the great work!!

  • @ayubsayyed783
    @ayubsayyed783 Жыл бұрын

    Very good collection

  • @go5582
    @go5582 Жыл бұрын

    It was a great year for tools!

  • @diemman70
    @diemman70 Жыл бұрын

    You lied to us as the Joker wrench did make the list.😆 I like the Wera diamond bits. Picking those off Amazon right now. PB Swiss stuff is so expensive.

  • @user-nb3oe9dk7r
    @user-nb3oe9dk7r Жыл бұрын

    Пассатижи от Геадор - просто бомба!!!!

  • @thenarcotk
    @thenarcotk Жыл бұрын

    the wera hex set is awesome, they have a ball end and are super tough

  • @melgross
    @melgross Жыл бұрын

    I don’t like flexible shafts. I’ve found that you can’t tighten down completely. It always feels as it’s going to get damaged if you try. That pertains to every manufacturer I’ve bought. And if you bend it more than a few degrees, it doesn’t really grip the screw properly. But I suppose they have their uses. The PB products seem to be perpetually out of stock.

  • @derekatkins8494
    @derekatkins8494 Жыл бұрын

    Love your videos! How about a list of tools you have used the most?

  • @johnmoorefilm
    @johnmoorefilm Жыл бұрын

    PB Swiss rainbow Allen wrench set is very good.

  • @BastiBig1988
    @BastiBig1988 Жыл бұрын

    Looks very interesting! Some tool I never Sean bevor great !

  • @jonathanmark7751
    @jonathanmark7751 Жыл бұрын

    I really want that PB Swiss ratcheting screwdriver but it's $300 in Canada on Amazon.

  • @kiyosenl.3889

    @kiyosenl.3889

    Жыл бұрын

    Try the LTT ratcheting screwdriver, very high quality and definitely a competitor, only around $70 iirc so good bit cheaper

  • @Callelle6251

    @Callelle6251

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kiyosenl.3889 The LTT driver is a joke. It's a $30 megapro, thats been made shorter and fatter (so it's harder to get into areas) and it's bit storage was shrunk so you can only hold 6 normal sized bits (compared to the original 12), and if you want to hold 12, you need to buy their proprietary bits.

  • @kittytrail

    @kittytrail

    Жыл бұрын

    😹

  • @gplusgplus2286

    @gplusgplus2286

    Жыл бұрын

    Holy Eff, thats about 60-70eur here from a PB Swiss dealer. Online isn't always cheaper, often you see crazy prices for an item that is sold at one online shop / ebay.

  • @kittytrail

    @kittytrail

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gplusgplus2286 it's not "being sold online" the problem, it's being in Canada in the first place... 🤡🛠️🌎

  • @RichardSmith-wr6go
    @RichardSmith-wr6go Жыл бұрын

    Picked up a little Bahco bit ratchet set recently, very handy for tight spots and as slim as using a screwdriver bit with a 1/4" spanner, also been buying Elora spanners - not all shiny chrome like Snap-on but a fraction of the cost.

  • @VeniVidiVid
    @VeniVidiVid Жыл бұрын

    “Take a few clothes off… Not fully stripped…“ 😂

  • @michaelb9664
    @michaelb9664 Жыл бұрын

    They are Wera Hex Plus keys without holding function. The holding function have ‘HF’ printed on the sleeve and a ball bearing pressed into the ball end of the L keys.

  • @michaelb9664

    @michaelb9664

    Жыл бұрын

    @@htr5372 yes indeed!

  • @armindo54
    @armindo54 Жыл бұрын

    Can you provide a link for the Copen extenders you demonstrated after the Wera Diamond hex bit set?

  • @a8f235
    @a8f235 Жыл бұрын

    I have yet to find what I'm looking for, and it is firstly aimed at bicycle maintenance, but can be used for anything else with hex head. I want a P-handle hex plus(no ballhead) with holding function. I want the plastic/nylon handle to be as small as possible(Unior is the best here in my opinion). I would also like to have a knurled area on the metal(close to the plastic/nylon) to be able to more easily spin it around just with thumb and index finger. The loose T-bar style that Park Tool released is not of any interest because it is too thin and flimsy(given the bar slides freely) for me to consider using this as a go to tool(also it has no hex plus nor holding function). Wera does make something close, but their handle is gigantic for bicycle maintenace so it's just not gonna happen.

  • @dennisr6261
    @dennisr6261 Жыл бұрын

    Dont think u have the holding function L-keys right there, those have blue release slide instead of green on the holder.

  • @joehart3826

    @joehart3826

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes holding function has a ball on the end of it

  • @joehart3826

    @joehart3826

    Жыл бұрын

    Not to be confused with ball end hex's

  • @bruceefeatheblock
    @bruceefeatheblock Жыл бұрын

    Wera hex keys with the multi-coloured plastic sleeves is not great imo. I have used them for nearly 2 years. The sleeves need to be cut back to access resessced bolts/screws. Additionally, I have noticed that some my co-workers wera keys the sleeves stay in the holder and the the hex key comes out.

  • @fredthehead4603
    @fredthehead4603 Жыл бұрын

    PB Swiss eschews the diamond tip screwdrivers and bits….if I remember correctly. So I don’t understand why this feature is better.

  • @LucScheffers
    @LucScheffers Жыл бұрын

    I have a not so good experience with the WERA flexible bit driver It broke on the first try tightening a screw. I checked with a regular scewdriver if maybe i overtightened it but i could easy turn it an other turn. Send it back to the seller, received a new one. On my bike headlamp, try to loosen a screw. It did turn, but not the screw but the driver outershell spit. When the return for this one came in, tried it on a screw. Same result outershell split. And even nr 4 with hex on it to tighten a brake cable on my bike. There were at least with 4 of these very severe quality issues which i did not expect from a more expensive brand like Wera. A big disappointment. Even if i get a 5th one i would not trust it to work when needed. So, my trust in Wera tools is sadly gone as well. Best advice, if you still want to buy one, or a Wera tool, don't let it lay around but test it first extensively before putting in it your toolbox.

  • @danstheman33
    @danstheman33 Жыл бұрын

    I love Wera, but I have a bunch of their diamond coated bits, and I haven't noticed that they're any better than quality bits without the diamond, including bits by Wera and other companies. I also can't feel or see any sort of diamond or abrasive texture on the bits. Frankly I think the diamond stuff is BS, I'm sure there are some diamond particles in there, but for practical purposes there really isn't.

  • @deanharris7149
    @deanharris7149 Жыл бұрын

    Koke is great stuff. Surprized they don’t promote their tools here more.

  • @martinelectrician5637
    @martinelectrician5637 Жыл бұрын

    Excelente selección.

  • @fuloplehel
    @fuloplehel Жыл бұрын

    Nice tools, I have most of the them, but not the japanese extensions. You have to make a separate video with the japanese tools that you have, I am sure you have a lot. Vessel, fujiya, engineer, olfa, tsunoda etc. I like japanese tools. But I am surprised that knipex is not on this list.

  • @fuloplehel

    @fuloplehel

    Жыл бұрын

    @@htr5372 I have NWS and Rothenberger watepump pliers, I like the confort handle on the NWS tools, but from my experience knipex is the most durable when it comes to the heat treatment of the jaws. The tool geometry is also different.more efficient. The durability of knipex tools was confirmed by many videos and comparative testing. It is not the end game, but it is one of the best out there

  • @dutch1047
    @dutch1047 Жыл бұрын

    Hello, nice tool collection. What is the extension socket can you please put the brand and model

  • @theplumbman7825
    @theplumbman7825 Жыл бұрын

    Nice watch😀😀😀😀

  • @horacerumpole6912
    @horacerumpole6912 Жыл бұрын

    Stubai (Austria) makes the best tin snips, and an asymetrical nail puller that is unbelieveable. Steetz tools CA.

  • @iiredeyeiiredeye1569

    @iiredeyeiiredeye1569

    Жыл бұрын

    Have you tried Wiss snips?

  • @horacerumpole6912

    @horacerumpole6912

    Жыл бұрын

    @@iiredeyeiiredeye1569 Wiss, Klenk, Malco, Peddinghaus, Pelikan...

  • @horacerumpole6912

    @horacerumpole6912

    Жыл бұрын

    Midwest & Pelikan are the second best choice-

  • @clarkpitts5393
    @clarkpitts5393 Жыл бұрын

    A+ Video.

  • @chotuusian4127
    @chotuusian4127 Жыл бұрын

    Nice tools

  • @reonapier3493
    @reonapier3493 Жыл бұрын

    The wear Allen keys are naff, in daily use, the key comes out and leaves the plastic behind. Good quality, naff design.

  • @nomadr1349

    @nomadr1349

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, absolutely. Came here to say the same thing. After a (short) while those loose slipping plastic sleeves are atrocious. Nice looking though.

  • @liveyourbestlife1513
    @liveyourbestlife1513 Жыл бұрын

    Lindstrom makes very good pliers in Switzerland and Sweden. They or a subsidiary of snap on.

  • @georgebonney90
    @georgebonney90 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you sir

  • @SajidHussain-lj5mr
    @SajidHussain-lj5mr Жыл бұрын

    Eye lyke Innglish toolz 👍

  • @Tony-sy7ed
    @Tony-sy7ed Жыл бұрын

    Nice watch. Could have been number 10, or number 1.

  • @kmiodek1
    @kmiodek1 Жыл бұрын

    Your wera allen keys don't have holding function. It's basic hex-plus set.

  • @albau2640
    @albau2640 Жыл бұрын

    Where is Wiha?

  • @austinbridge
    @austinbridge Жыл бұрын

    Doc, I'm curious if you've tried out the Klein 32308 Adjustable Multi-bit Stubby Driver. I'd love to see it side-by-side with the PB Swiss!

  • @lastbesttool

    @lastbesttool

    Жыл бұрын

    Will likely happen. I will be addressing the PB ratcheting stubby compared to others. Stay tuned, and thanks for watching.

  • @7baer
    @7baer Жыл бұрын

    What kind of knife ceramic knife was that in your top 10 snap on tools?

  • @hampuslagergren4693
    @hampuslagergren4693 Жыл бұрын

    What about the wera hex plus HF have you tryed that one? Same one but with an extra function. Great video thow

  • @PhreakDarkSoul
    @PhreakDarkSoul Жыл бұрын

    No Knipex TwinGrip in the list? Or was it a tool of 2021? I don't know... the one I ordered was still not shipped and will not be before January 2023. :(

  • @kulothunganchokalingam2597
    @kulothunganchokalingam2597 Жыл бұрын

    Can I get the tools from the market. please guide me sir.

  • @callishandy8133
    @callishandy8133 Жыл бұрын

    I like the swiss PB Swiss dead blow mallets. I have since years and years and so long one of these hammer from ?Gedore? germany. Both sides have plastic caps. I think I can change these if they are to old. The PB Swiss is better... ... because only one side with softer plastic but more expensiv. And I can buy different size/weight. It really hits good and the handle feels balanced. It is a delight to swing. And I got the Gedore angle head pliers. But my ery old oncle liked it. I can not write any thing, because only used once or zwice before my old uncle ask for these (=present for him). He is lucky. For very hard pulling not perfect. No linear power to pull something out. Nice for easy jobs , but not for muscle jobs perfect. Ok, for muscle jobs Knipex.

  • @kiyosenl.3889
    @kiyosenl.3889 Жыл бұрын

    Have you tried tekton's high torque series screwdrivers? Their tips are pretty average quality nothing to write home about HOWEVER their handles, i mean those things look funky but god do they give you just every bit of grip you could ever want

  • @Automatizari_porti_Suceava
    @Automatizari_porti_Suceava Жыл бұрын

    The name or a link for japanese tool,thanks

  • @gl0sek
    @gl0sek Жыл бұрын

    What wera T-handle is better the one for hex bits or 1/4" squre? There are adapters either way so is there any difference?

  • @cafecybernz

    @cafecybernz

    Жыл бұрын

    I was wondering the same. For personal reasons, I want my screwdriver bits to be locked (so the bit does not get stuck in the fastener), but I want my 1/4" sockets to be immediately removable without having to push any button (All my lockable ratchet drivers have a quick spinner on them: it helps with turning bolts or nuts at first, and with making the sockets come off quickly). Even if I had liked the lock system on the T-handle hex bits, I've read somewhere that it sometimes unlocks itself due to the pressure of your palm on the button at the top of the T handle. So I am going to purchase two 1/4" square T-handle, one for screwdriver bits and one with a hex-square adapter for sockets (The adapter will be locked in the rapidaptor end of the T-handle, ensuring the sockets are easy to remove).

  • @bimble7240
    @bimble7240 Жыл бұрын

    6:41 Did you say "Pozidrives or JAS"? Are you confusing the two? Not at all the same thing.

  • @samuele5931
    @samuele5931 Жыл бұрын

    Could you do Italian brands?

  • @lastbesttool

    @lastbesttool

    Жыл бұрын

    Do you have some you recommend? The only ones I have that come to mind are Campagnolo bike tools.

  • @nickslingerland4155
    @nickslingerland4155 Жыл бұрын

    Those Wera Allen keys are Super duper!!🏳️‍🌈 Heyhey

  • @FISHDINHO
    @FISHDINHO Жыл бұрын

    Surprised no Knipex tools but nice selection.

  • @mukeshdwivedi7920
    @mukeshdwivedi7920 Жыл бұрын

    Are these avbl in INDIA?

  • @Johnwickpifpaf
    @Johnwickpifpaf Жыл бұрын

    No knipex?

  • @lastbesttool

    @lastbesttool

    Жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/rHat2bmYZsW2p8Y.html

  • @almanyaelektriktesisati
    @almanyaelektriktesisati Жыл бұрын

    Wera ist Nr 1 in Deutschland

  • @Petesworkshop2225
    @Petesworkshop2225 Жыл бұрын

    That wera auto spanner is kinda worthless. Got the smaller size, never found a nut I could use it on

  • @johngisbourne7197
    @johngisbourne71974 ай бұрын

    KOKEN is japanese btw

  • @TheStephen3417
    @TheStephen3417 Жыл бұрын

    Can you send me a link that I can just click on? I cannot find the ones that you were talking about the hexis plus that you got called up out on. That said you said the wrong thing your first video. I couldn't find them the second video. I still can't find them. If you would please give me a link I could just click on and it take me right to him the ones that you got. I think it's a nine piece but I'm not sure it's in the video right now. You got both of them open one to the left one to the right and then that pleasant piece of plastic that holds them both together. But it's a separation in the middle so would appreciate it. And any other description you can give me about it or what it might have, what it will do, what it won't do. I sure would appreciate it. Thank you very much. Just to link so I can click on go right to it. Thank you!

  • @lastbesttool

    @lastbesttool

    Жыл бұрын

    Here's a link to the ones in the video regardless what I called them: amzn.to/3GrtZw8 And here is the Hold Function metric hex set: amzn.to/3WUWJTk Thanks for watching.

  • @amoslois4600
    @amoslois4600 Жыл бұрын

    You forgot knipex

  • @2121contreras
    @2121contreras Жыл бұрын

    Didn't see any nws on this list??

  • @pzwolski

    @pzwolski

    Жыл бұрын

    Ha ha ha 🤣, how old are you? It is not about the best tools available, but the best income to youtubers from affiliation links from amazon. Click and buy, and give him an interest. That is all about in all these recommendations on youtube. I found only 4 NWS tools at amazon, so it is obvious, that he skipped this company. Too much effort, too little income. They recommend something only if they can earn some money from this recommendation. That's an ugly truth.

  • @charlesviner1565
    @charlesviner1565 Жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @wandererdinghysailingchann6917
    @wandererdinghysailingchann6917 Жыл бұрын

    😅

  • @boringsoaring
    @boringsoaring Жыл бұрын

    Some of those tools are ridiculously overpriced

  • @danielorozco1728
    @danielorozco1728 Жыл бұрын

    Pb swisstools are way overpriced not worth the price they ask for, many other brands offer the same quality for even half the price.

  • @_X_X_X_X_X

    @_X_X_X_X_X

    Жыл бұрын

    With a lifetime warranty? I have a bunch of pb screwdrivers from my grandfather and they are like new

  • @danielorozco1728

    @danielorozco1728

    Жыл бұрын

    @@_X_X_X_X_X dewalt has lifetime warranty in many of their hand tools

  • @_X_X_X_X_X

    @_X_X_X_X_X

    Жыл бұрын

    @@danielorozco1728 I did not know that. Thank you for the tip.

  • @danielorozco1728

    @danielorozco1728

    Жыл бұрын

    @@htr5372 but where are price drops of that brand?

  • @Sw1sher95

    @Sw1sher95

    8 ай бұрын

    @@danielorozco1728you don’t know what good tools are yet. Wait till you get older. Pb Swiss is very reasonably priced for what you get.

  • @freds4703
    @freds4703 Жыл бұрын

    Knipex. It’s pronounced Nye-pex. In German the K is silent

  • @freds4703

    @freds4703

    Жыл бұрын

    My mistake, Not exactly silent but very soft and quick. Look up online.

  • @MarkWright1963
    @MarkWright1963 Жыл бұрын

    Nipex not K Nipex ask the Germans. You Yanks really have a big issue with “ pronunciation!

  • @horste9237

    @horste9237

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm German and it's Knipex. We do not have any silent "K"s.

  • @Lordsmobile_trap88
    @Lordsmobile_trap88 Жыл бұрын

    Waste of time... All poor tools...