Glad I could tune into this Grom build. I almost cam't believe how far it's come.

I feel like even a 1hp i crease on a Grom feels like a huge change. Specially considering how low it starts off with.

@jacobinfante375

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah like his bud said that’s a 10% increase on a grom

@POOKIE5592

2 жыл бұрын

Specially? Really, dude?

@Smallbore2wheels

2 жыл бұрын

@@POOKIE5592yep. It's especially's cooler cousin

@saltyy9936

Жыл бұрын

@@POOKIE5592 not that deep, dude.

Thanks for the pro tips and mods. Great to see its running smoothly. 🔥💪

the mini drag races look hilariously fun!!!!

The performance upgrades are dope and it sounds AWESOME.

Might have to add these to the list of winter mods for the Grom. Having owned a Harley previously it's refreshing how affordable mods are for this bike.

@love2fight205

2 жыл бұрын

It’s good to see a Harley rider converted into a motorcyclist, proud of you bro.

@dallaschipman7792

4 ай бұрын

I did the same, i dont dread buying parts and now look forward to installing them

I feel like pjs are the perfect outfit when riding a grom

The mini Max Trax and Rotopax jerry can kills me every time 🤣

The machine looks nice Love the look

Hey you guys are riding around my neck of the woods, just picked up a '22 SP.

Just knowing u can mod the grom to make it go faster makes me wanna get it even more!

@DatHondaBoi223

2 жыл бұрын

You can mod anything to make it faster lol

very cool grom build!

Looks like you woke it up some, thanks for the review

Those tiny maxtrax are a nice touch!

Need to get one of these!

Looks like a significant difference to me, thanks for the comparison!

@TalonSei

6 ай бұрын

Of course! Thanks for watching 👊🏻

Good video looks like a lot of fun!

Moar powah is never a bad thing 🙌🤘🤙

That’s crazy! I used to live in those townhomes right off tower!

@sumo_shaneomac

7 ай бұрын

Never knew you were in Co!

I live in Boulder county and want to get a grom for next summer. I forgot about these bikes. I was riding my Coleman ct200u around with my son and Seen a grom. He looked at us how people look at people on groms. Like oh that's cute.

"finding neutral on the grom is like winning a lottery" - I thought it was just me :-)

@friedrice1641

Ай бұрын

Yes it is no good. 😢

I love my 2022 Grom. I too did DHM tune with chimera intake set up. Over winter I plan on doing the cam.

@ReeceCoza

2 жыл бұрын

How does it feel with intake/exhaust/tune vs stock? Like acceleration and top speed I'm keen on doing it!

@89foxguy

2 жыл бұрын

@@ReeceCoza it feels a lot more responsive and definitely noticeable difference. Top speed is increased for sure. Downhill I saw 80mph but that most likely wasn't spot on but can say I was moving.

@ReeceCoza

2 жыл бұрын

@@89foxguy that's fantastic! I presume hitting the 50-60mph much easier now?

@89foxguy

2 жыл бұрын

@@ReeceCoza definitely gets up there easier. Highly recommend 👌

@ReeceCoza

2 жыл бұрын

@@89foxguy wonderful! Got intake on the way then I'll order cam and tune!

Dang you guys were cruising through my neighborhood. I never see groms out in Parker.

cam install video would be awesome!

You need to go 1 tooth bigger in the rear because in 5th gear its stopping at 8,000RPM. If you go +1 in the rear you will be able to rev out 5th gear more resulting in higher top end and also a little bit for quickness through all the gears. Best of both worlds plus you will be able to use those leftover RPM from 5th gear!

@ricardoador322

Жыл бұрын

I have stage 3. How big of a sprocket on front and back

@BIGRENZY

Жыл бұрын

are groms worth it i have a 650 stunt bike right now and was thinking about grabbing one

@antonithegoat4216

Жыл бұрын

@@BIGRENZY yes

@adr3510

11 ай бұрын

@@antonithegoat4216 would it be worth it in united kingdom? bad roads and stuff but grom might be fun

You shouldn't need premium gas, unless you're running higher compression piston. Mid-grade should be fine. When you did the reflash, was there an option to raise the RPM limit? I know there was an option on the previous gen Grom/Monkey and I raised mine to 9750. Block tires are going to be sketchy at higher speeds. Changing the front sprocket down will give you better acceleration and the cost of top speed.

Two of my friends have groms and they keep persuading me to get one but i got too many hobbies already!

Looks cool

Sounds is way better. Actually had a little growl to it!

lol I actually ended up having mine 300 swapped. The difference is unreal!

This kinda seems like my experience with my 2019 Grom. After doing stage 1 (exhaust, air box, ECU flash) it didn't add as much top end as I'd hoped but it made the bike alot quicker to redline which was really all it needed to make it perfect for marauding around the city

@rrazote2279

2 жыл бұрын

On the last gen 2018-2021 Groms the best (bang for the buck) mods are intake, exhaust, TB cam, and ECU reflash with RPM raised to 10,000. You should see at least 3 HP increase. Going down to 14 tooth front sprocket will give you better acceleration at the cost of top speed. I easily reached mid 70's on my 21 Monkey. Things can get sketchy on the stock tires, so be careful at speeds over 64.

@charliesmith874

Жыл бұрын

@@rrazote2279 is 10k rpm safe for stock heads n valves etc?

@rrazote2279

Жыл бұрын

@@charliesmith874 From the forums, to other Monkey/Grom owners, I've been told up to 10k RPM is fine. Past that and there's a chance of the valves floating. There's a valve kit you can buy for under $100 that can fix that problem, but at 9750 that engine is screaming, so I dont know that anyone would want to push the engine past 12k (that's the limit I've heard people set the RPM with the valve kit). You'll definitely want to use top grade oil and change sooner. I used Motul and changed every 2000-2500 miles. Heat can kill these little engines fast, so I would recommend an oil cooler and oil pump upgrade.

@charliesmith874

Жыл бұрын

@@rrazote2279 ah right cheers mate, hopefully getting a grom next month so yeah just looking into my options to squeeze a few more horsepower out of it haha

Great BIKE once entirely run In no doubt It will ride even better, myself I am looking for such a bike, but stupid UK laws mean I have to check first & foremost, many thanks for the Infomation, keep up the great work, It's most appreciated!

@timothymceachron9127

2 жыл бұрын

In the UK I believe it's called a Honda MSX 125

Now add a DHM high compression piston, and have it ported and tune and try it

Awww a lil grom grom cute ..lol ..that cam doe

Cool upgrades. You moved to Colorado? I know you used live PA just from being long term sub.

Sik grom dude, well done. Where did you get the black faring retaining washers?

I was like this looks really familiar and then he said a beautiful day in Colorado and I was like ohhhhh. Hello neighbor

So I want a grom, been thinking about getting one. and was watching this video . Then I notice that you are in the parking lot to my work. Where did you pick your grom up from? Did you have to ordered it?

Honda needs to make a 250cc grom.

I’ve gotta know how you mounted that rotopax on your grom! And what size that fuel tank from them is!

Did you feel like it's flat up until about 6krpm then it opens up with the stage 2 kit, that's how I feel with mine

Great channel! Can you get a big bore kit?

Those are cool

Do you know which brake light strobe module Will is running?

Did you have a full tuckk or straight up while in the speed test

Bout to get the intake cam and flash for my 19 monkey with a yoshi exhaust. Sounds like a dirt bike now lol

Do u know if the procircuit exhaust made for the 2nd gen would fit on this new model?

Your mic sounds great, what are you using to talk to each other , thanks

@illhaveanother4365

2 жыл бұрын

They are using their mouths

I’m stock with intake and exhaust and I top out 75mph and that’s without tune or cam and I redline at 10rpm… I’m not sure if should even get a tune or cam at this point 🤔

I have the same brute exhaust. Any tips on the exhaust wrap?

Nice mods. Have you noticed any difference in fuel economy? Will the cam hasten engine wear? I am looking for 2023 Grom right now. I am 75 so the Grom is about my speed.

@willyhamster

Жыл бұрын

with greater performance comes with a loss of fuel economy, but the economy is so good the begin with that it doesn’t make much of a difference, you lose 10-20 miles of range maximum

@gregspears9022

10 ай бұрын

I gained mpg with intake exhaust and tune. I dont have to ride it as hard to get up to speed so that helps

What pro taper bars are you running ?

Gixxers, ZX's and Pana's are quivering in fear because you're definitely coming after them. 1.5sec 60ft and sub 10sec 1/4 are in your future.... Cutest race suit ever!

Can dhm have afterpay/zippay might be a Australian thing. And have cheaper postage. It cost me like $100 postage from America to Australia. I don't understand for a a cam, ecu, intake ect. Tiny little things.

next time, zip tie your cam chain to the sprocket

I’m moving to Colorado here real soon I guess they don’t mess with bikes with loud exhaust ???

After you installed the ecu did u have to reset ur ecu. Or was it just install and wait for the ecu to pick up on the changed

@TalonSei

27 күн бұрын

Just plug and play

i see u in colorado would be dope to ride sometime!

How did the mods affect your fuel economy? Honestly curious. Thinking about getting a Grom, and don't know if performance mods are going to be on the roster.

@benmcbride7269

2 жыл бұрын

Even if the mods do effect it, I wouldn’t worry too much. Gross have great mpg and they only cost like 6 bucks to fill up.

@ancientofdays9737

2 жыл бұрын

3 dollars last for 2 days

@hoodieboy1515

2 жыл бұрын

@@benmcbride7269 woaaaaa

@bubba9046

2 жыл бұрын

It only holds a gallon

@timothymceachron9127

2 жыл бұрын

@@bubba9046 1.6

Do you still have the grom with dumb cam mod till this day? Has it held up

What pro taper bars do you have on your grom? Looking to put them on mine but don’t know which ones to get thanks!

@TalonSei

2 жыл бұрын

www.seiproductions.com/seigarage

Did u change the sprocket size yet? Curious what the top speed is with GPS?

@TalonSei

2 жыл бұрын

I have not

Where in Colorado are you at? Looking for some grom people to ride with. In greeleey here

That was good ,gentlemen. I dream.... héhéhé

Lol crazy I live in colorado and looking to get my first groom

Do you live in colorado now? What happened to pennsylvania?

Would the tune work with different intakes?

I am thinking about selling my R6 and getting a Grom, mostly for the mpg and you can take them off road. Wish I could ride one first to see if I would like it before I go and get one.

@friedrice1641

Ай бұрын

I'll let you ride mine.

Might be a stupid question but I have a clone can you do all those changes on a clone? Like the ecu flash? How’d you do that?

@TalonSei

2 жыл бұрын

I have no idea when it comes to clones

Pro tip with the Chimera intake: if you get the 3” inlet SPECTRE performance filter, it fits perfectly over the included filter with the chimera. Just use a hacksaw, some super glue, and three little stainless wood screws to fit the big filter over the outlet portion of the little one. It’s ridiculous looking, and ridiculously fast! :)

@kaidwyer

Жыл бұрын

Another thing, the SPECTRE filter has a built-in velocity stack, which makes it faster-flowing than a straight pipe, while giving the filtration you need. You may have to clock the intake in a slightly different position depending on what your fairings allow.

Do a big bore kit

You should try speed on gps

Nice

Are you guys in Vegas

Bro forget the bike, what kind of Mic are you using😅... I need that Mic

How about better valve springs

Which ProTapers are those?

Can you run a mid fairing with that intake?

What tires are you using

My 6'3"- 190 lb son has an old 4spd Grom. He could go faster in 3rd than he could in 4th! So, he got a new drive sprocket that's 1 tooth smaller, and WOW! His Grom will now do 64 on the flat and 69 with a tailwind! I got to ride it and 69 on a Grom is lotsa fun!

@mikey_bb

7 ай бұрын

Is that standard apart from the gearing change?

@johnw65

7 ай бұрын

@@mikey_bb He has, glass pak exhaust and accsy air cleaner... Otherwise, stock engine,

So after break in I can do 70+ on highway cruising. Top speed hit was 81 on limiter. I'm stock still. I want to do your upgrades.

@facial210

2 ай бұрын

How did you accomplish 70+ cruising...?

Time to add the Antigravity Battery and drop some weight!

@TalonSei

2 жыл бұрын

I’m in! Shoot me a message 🤘🏼

@kalebfisher4730

2 жыл бұрын

I'll take one!

Me: why can’t I go over 68. Also me: 250 lbs.

@jacobinfante375

2 жыл бұрын

What’s the highest you’ve gotten, I’m about 245lbs and I want to get a grom

@DrKampfpudding

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacobinfante375 im about 230-235 lbs and went about 58-59 mph on an even road full tuck. With the first gen

Has anybody checked gps speed vs speedometer? I can hit 70 on the speedo but its 58 on gps. Really disheartening lol

Any noticeable change to fuel mileage?

@TalonSei

2 жыл бұрын

Not yet

Watching further, 300CC kit/motor???!!

What’s the base top speed

Recommendation for a helmet?

@goon_eg1089

2 жыл бұрын

Get one with pinlock

Do you think if you had less knobby tires, you’d go a little faster on roads?

@DHMotoring

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, street tires are worth a few MPH easily, not just because of being smooth, but also because they weigh a bit less. 71mph on knobbies is pretty legit!

@TalonSei

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe a mile or 2 faster

@RutgerJonaker

2 жыл бұрын

@@TalonSei What tires do you guys have ?

@TalonSei

2 жыл бұрын

Kenda big blocks

@btankful

2 жыл бұрын

I noticed no difference (in top speed) between the Kenda 761 (50/50) and Maxxis M6024 (knobbies), so I put the Maxxis back on because it was more planted in gravel. Maybe there's more difference between real street tires, like Power Pures and knobbies.

What stage cam and piston

hey talon which sprockets you runnin?

@TalonSei

2 жыл бұрын

Stock for now

What was your top speed before the upgrade on parts?

@SCFPV

Жыл бұрын

My 2022 stock Grom tops out at around 60mph, wide open, flat surface with me lying down forward.

I bought this for MPG, how badly did this affect yours? Did you do a before and after?

@TalonSei

2 жыл бұрын

Idk before but today I was getting 117.5mpg

@keldonator

2 жыл бұрын

@@TalonSei Nice, maybe some power adding wouldn't be as bad as previously thought.

@SCFPV

Жыл бұрын

@@TalonSei My completely stock Grom shows 141.2 mpg. That's a pretty good decrease, but imo, well worth it.🤙

@TalonSei

Жыл бұрын

Knobby tires take down the mpg more than anything.

@moremoney2

Жыл бұрын

Just did the first oil change on my stock 2022 Grom. 541 miles with an average 169.7 mpg. Top speed is about 57mph. Bought it to take in my van when I go camping. If I have a need for speed I will get on my R1. It gets around 38mpg and will easily go 170+.

I did the same mods to mine and mine doesn’t go faster then 67 going down hill.. I feel like it is off by just a little bit to get the full potential.. any suggestions ?

@therealrealshocker

6 ай бұрын

My 4spd grom was able to hit 73mph with just sprocket swap

@friedrice1641

Ай бұрын

​@therealrealshocker how much bro?

Running 91 pump octane is pointless unless you physically are changing the compression ratio, installing the cam may of affected the compression but your friend running 91 on a stock grom is silly.

@Thirsty_Fox

2 жыл бұрын

Where I live, the only ethanol-free fuel is 91 "premium"... the rest have 5-10% ethanol, which has less energy than gasoline, so you can get a small performance increase by going ethanol-free.

@akustaka

2 жыл бұрын

@@Thirsty_Fox That's actually been proven false.... You wouldn't get necessarily a "performance increase" but instead "increased mpg" because the computer would realize there is unburnt gasoline (energy) in the exhaust via the 02 sensor. Look up a video by the channel called "Project Farm" where he ran high test gas vs low test, the high test only lasted like 2 seconds longer than low test in a generator with a light plugged in and running while having a watt meter on the output of the generator. Needless to say, everything was within the margin of error. I will repeat myself, "running 91 pump gas in a vehicle not designed for it is wasting money", unless your engine can properly ignite the higher octane you cannot properly burn it. Best case scenario as you said ethanol free has a little bit more energy, in which the computer of your vehicle will notice the excess "energy" in the exhaust and adjust the injection of gasoline accordingly, you will not get more "performance" but more "mpg" instead. Just because the "potential energy" is there does not mean your compression can properly ignite it. Worse case scenario you waste money, and force your catalytic converted to work harder, thus lowering its lifespan.

@Thirsty_Fox

2 жыл бұрын

@@akustaka Believe what you like, but there's definitely a benefit of not having ethanol in your fuel. I wish all fuel grades didn't have it but alas. Another reason to avoid ethanol beyond mpg and performance is that ethanol is hygroscopic and retains water, which is especially bad for carbureted bikes, but even FI bikes that are left sitting any length of time. Most modern engines can adapt for the fuel used and make timing adjustments for optimization.

@Speedpunk650

Жыл бұрын

@@Thirsty_Fox First time I filled up my grom's tank I put premium in my gas tank. High octane gas gave me bad performance. My Grom was choking and shit. I watched a video on YT on how to fill up a Grom and the guy said to use 91 octane gas. That was a mistake. You're full of shit.

@Speedpunk650

Жыл бұрын

And for the record I bought a brand new stock Grom. These minibikes arent designed for high octane gas and it gives worse performance. Read your owner's manual.

Megan Fox in transformers: "Camshaft...."

what have you seen as far as MPG with these mods.. thanks

@TalonSei

2 жыл бұрын

Still in the 100s

@TigFabrication

2 жыл бұрын

I do 62mpg 😂

just get a 500/650cc folks... i ride with the grom crowd and it just makes me sad when they have to put so much in to bring their stock grom up

What is the weight difference between you two ?

@TalonSei

2 жыл бұрын

We weigh the same 175

I still think the Grom of Honda ,should reach maximum of 80 miles per hour.. sale would be boomin

@therealrealshocker

6 ай бұрын

😂 that's a death trap with those baby 12" wheels