I would buy both just for the financial instability

@eliotgarcia21

2 жыл бұрын

Yes brother 🗿🗿

@slappy4braps20

2 жыл бұрын

? A 30k shitbox is breaking the bank ?

@Bailey_54R

2 жыл бұрын

@@slappy4braps20 yeah lol. $30k is a lot. More than either of these cars are worth. Peoples willingness to finance vehicles has skyrocketed vehicle prices.

@Alumnikiid

2 жыл бұрын

@@slappy4braps20 Yea dude thats $570 on a 60 month loan. Now they have 10 year car loans so now companies can overcharge for cars even more.

@sidefx996

2 жыл бұрын

@@slappy4braps20 Well considering probably 99% of people who buy one of these things don’t have that much money saved up, yeah it is.

In the words of Jeremy Clarkson "congratulations, you've proven the most powerful car is also the fastest"

@stubbingtonmarigold3032

2 жыл бұрын

Haha the si is a fuckin dud. It got walked by a slow car.

@royshavrick

2 жыл бұрын

@@stubbingtonmarigold3032 the GR86 does 0-60 in like 5.2 sec, so if the Si does it in like 5.9 ofc it'll be slower. edit: 5.4 according to C and D but whatever

@-_--le3zk

2 жыл бұрын

@@royshavrick who told you it does 5.2?it does 6.6,but if that was an example then sorry

@ralkia

2 жыл бұрын

@@-_--le3zk old gen 86 did ~6.6, GR does 5.4 according to Toyota.

@Matthew-rc1xt

2 жыл бұрын

@@-_--le3zk 6.6 in an automatic maybe. does under 5.5 in the current gen with a manual

I'm glad there was an explanation of the "evil laugh" noises by James, because I thought he was enjoying his cake. I'd love to put a new GR86 in my garage! Thanks for another enjoyable race.

@noahpickerill3749

2 жыл бұрын

Who wouldn't want a new GR86 in their garage honestly

@wayward03

2 жыл бұрын

I've been trying for a couple months now 😩

@chalelu

2 жыл бұрын

Would you like to put one in mines as well?

@ToyotaGT8614

2 жыл бұрын

@@noahpickerill3749 mx5 owners

A race around the circuit would also be very fun to see

I am a honda guy but I am happy for Toyota with the new GRs.

@kimgonzalez1591

2 жыл бұрын

I'm mad 😠 jk I want a gr86 they are so much faster than before

@chriscline3944

2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see more competition. I hope Honda has something in store that returns the shots fired by Toyota.

@mitchellc2723

2 жыл бұрын

Happy for Subaru

@djw5415

2 жыл бұрын

@@chriscline3944 I couldn’t agree more. Honda needs a budget 2 door rwd sports car!

@Cyborg_Auto

2 жыл бұрын

@@chriscline3944 Don't hold your breath, Honda is all about family cars now..

As I'm still in the break-in period with my GR86, living vicariously through you guys racing it has been a blast.

@MrNotgoth

2 жыл бұрын

Same...it's been tempting to go past 4k 😅

@MrGamingCookie

2 жыл бұрын

Littrally just missed out on an order in the UK because of computer issues....

@nanashi2146

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrGamingCookie That sucks man

@hxhabe5795

2 жыл бұрын

My si didn’t get a break in period. I wanted to give it the true honda owner experience.

@fry.master

2 жыл бұрын

@@hxhabe5795 as you should... tbh the oem pistons/rings in k series engine burn oil if you don't break them in... HARD. mostly on the k20a2, if the owner didnt trash it off the rev limiter a few times during break in, they would burn oil every time at those high rpm's for the rest of the life of the engine. One day I want to understand why the hell that is, but it's absolutely real. Good luck with your si! Throw a bigger turbo on it after break in :)

Had to settle for a Civic Sport as I am not paying 5k or 10k over sticker on an Si... and even in the Sport model, I will admit, I take the "slow car fast" seriously. My neighborhood corners have never seen such fury.

@desertdriver7056

2 жыл бұрын

“My neighborhood corners have never seen such fury.” I need that on a t-shirt. 😎

@svandorst1

2 жыл бұрын

Plus if you live in America rather than Canada, Honda thinks Americans are fools. Charging more for the same car with less features than the Canadian version.

@s2kedwin502

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh I work at this Honda in Los angles and with the mark up and Everything else comes out to $40,000 plus tax smh

@svandorst1

2 жыл бұрын

@@s2kedwin502 I want what they're smoking.

@WorthTheRiskGaming

2 жыл бұрын

where do you live where this is? ive never even heard of this in Canada, or atleast in my province.

That new motor in the 86 is such a huge leap over the old one

@marcusmcneal7453

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the last gen 86 was notorious for getting abused by even non-SI turbo Civics. Now they're actually sports car quick!

@flip90925

2 жыл бұрын

30 extra horse power 😆

@nn99nn99

Жыл бұрын

@@flip90925 Dyno results seem to show around 50 extra horsepower

@rx4mandude

Жыл бұрын

The old one was ok . Tuned on e85 with breathing mods easy 180kw

@nhantran98

3 ай бұрын

I want Toyota to put that 3 banger in the 86

Exactly as expected but a joy to watch regardless.

@dnegel9546

2 жыл бұрын

Wonder if the Elantra N line DCT can beat the GR86 since it beat the si by roughly the same margin.

@NvSrAgE679

2 жыл бұрын

@@dnegel9546 personally I would expect to the N to win but hey, Throttle House, can we get a race please?

@dnegel9546

2 жыл бұрын

@@NvSrAgE679 I'm thinking of getting a n line. But in manual.

@NvSrAgE679

2 жыл бұрын

@@dnegel9546 I prefer the look of the N-Line to the N. I think the front looks nicer without all the black.

@purwantiallan5089

2 жыл бұрын

@@NvSrAgE679 N Line doesnt fare any faster either bro.

When i was car shopping, these were the two cars i wanted. And frankly, i could go either way. If you want the best driving experience outside something like a Porsche Cayman GT4, get the GR86. If you want a near 40 mpg sedan with more than enough Handling & Speed keep you entertained when the wife & kids aren't around, get the Civic Si. P.S since everyone is mad in the comments, i reference the Cayman as i've gotten the chance to experience it in-person.

@ZakDavis

2 жыл бұрын

For sure, pretty much why I snagged the Si over the hachiroku

@omarawilson2853

2 жыл бұрын

If the Civic still came in a coupe. I might’ve bought one but seeing as how I’m in my 20’s and love coupes, the GR seems like the way for me

@apolloxlix679

2 жыл бұрын

@@omarawilson2853 same, though im not planning to buy one any soon, i really liked the civic coupes and the hatch like the ek series

@Joe---

2 жыл бұрын

I agree 👍 💯 %

@Cyborg_Auto

2 жыл бұрын

Comparing the 86 to a Gt4 😁😂😂😁

You know I really enjoy the both of your personalities. Such a joy to watch. You both are very likable people. Then ending was just hilarious. Thank you for testing both of these together.

Need a full comparison. Been waiting for this fwd vs rwd for years! Thanks for a drag at least

Important that Willow Springs, CA is at about half a mile of altitude, so the Civic Si actually has a bit of an advantage, being a turbo. So at sea-level, the GR86 would do even better.

@roblucchetti2993

2 жыл бұрын

also the GR86 gets Michelin's and the Civic gets Goodyears....that's most certainly going to add to any performance difference.

@Drewdownkali

2 жыл бұрын

@@roblucchetti2993 the Goodyear's I bought for my GTI are way lighter than the Michelins.

@HydraliskX

2 жыл бұрын

@@roblucchetti2993 I don't think either car is traction limited.

@normt430

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to say about 2,600 feet above sea level I expected the turbo-4 to pull ahead. California piss gas to blame?

@metalogic1580

2 жыл бұрын

@@Drewdownkali Performance of the tire and grip matters a BIT more than the weight.. just a bit lol

I hope you guys don't change the intro for the track stuff, it's honestly pretty great.

Great video. Loving the content. You guys are very entertaining, and very funny. Keep up the good work.

Thank you for doing this I have been looking for a video like this for a while

The gr86 is beautiful. Nice design on it

@jdmguy14

2 жыл бұрын

Thank Subaru.

@midnightquest9758

2 жыл бұрын

Like a mini Supra .

@jdmguy14

2 жыл бұрын

@@midnightquest9758 not even close

@TheG60528XiJinPing

2 жыл бұрын

@@jdmguy14 like different in everyway

@Aaron-fb6mb

2 жыл бұрын

@@jdmguy14 Toyota and subaru

they make the si heavier every generation and haven’t increased the hp since 06 and torque since 2013

@stubbingtonmarigold3032

2 жыл бұрын

Wait till they give it the mr2 treatment and gut it’s power and tell you it an improvement ( because they want it to fail so they can stop making it)

@darkenergon6655

2 жыл бұрын

@@stubbingtonmarigold3032 why would they want to stop making it?

@benedictl6716

2 жыл бұрын

@@darkenergon6655 too small of a market perhaps..

@TheFK8Life

2 жыл бұрын

lmfao meanwhile in reality this 200hp engine makes 200-205whp aka 230ish hp Please research before trying to talk about stuff you dont know the details of The 06 to 11 Si made 175-180ish whp ....the 2017s made 190-195whp and the 22s make 200-205whp

@benedictl6716

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheFK8Life yet they all have around the same 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. How about that, huh? Stop believing those tuning companies and their fake secret 230 hp dyno claims. They're not reflected or backed up by real life results whatsoever.

Thank you very much! Liked, subscribed and shared. My absolute favorite KZread channel by far.

Very entertaining to watch! Loved this comparison (even if we all know straight line speed isnt what either of these cars are about). They are actually the 2 cars I'm cross shopping at the moment, I used to have a 14 Si and loved it. I was a little disappointed to hear that peak power on the new Si was even lower than my 9th gen Si, but all the glowing reviews about the shifter keep this car on my shortlist. On the other hand the GR86 sounds like such a special car, and since it'll likely be my last ICE car that I'll keep for an insanely long time itd be nice to have something little more special than a Civic. If I had the money Id probably dump it on the upcoming Type-R but thats a little too much of a stretch haha.

@chrisdaxer3984

Жыл бұрын

I’m 2 months into my 11th gen and put ~5,000 miles so far (college student so road trips) and I LOVE it. I get ~34mpg if I drive it like a normal person and ~30 if I drive it hard. It’s not fast but way faster than average traffic. I never really liked the look of older civics but I think this new one is really clean and the interior is very premium. It’s a blast to drive feels just like a miata with back seats and w/ the LSD it really pulls out of corners. Would recommebd

Been waiting for this one 🤙🏽

i missed these drag races - cant wait for more!! great video gentleman

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO DO THIS I LOVE YOU GUYS

I own a 2022 Civic SI and I fully expected the GR86 to win this one unfortunately. I love my SI though and I wouldn't trade it for anything. It's an absolute blast to drive!

@buildmorefarms1007

2 жыл бұрын

It's a Honda.

@utsavmayani5272

2 жыл бұрын

I picked mine yesterday and I do not care that it is not a rocket like everyone expects it to be. Its just so fun to drive in while being economical and comfortable

@kobecross3298

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm you wouldnt trade it for a gr86?

@povboy009

2 жыл бұрын

I expected the same since new si only comes sedan

@TheFK8Life

2 жыл бұрын

A simple flex fuel kit and e30 tune/downpipe would demolish a GR86 280whp/340wtq

I genuinely enjoyed this review/drag race, honestly felt like i was there

You guys are awesome!! Great vid can you run the si against the 86 but with a hondata tune for the si and see where we are at ? Would be a great run I believe

Great video guys

Great vid! Good job guys!

I love your content and car knowledge, identifying the difference and sometimes why two cars truly aren’t on the same level/performance/use. Like these two. One shopping for an Si who wants a real rear seat and comfort, space would not purchase a 86. And one who just would want a coupe would purchase the 86 as it’s more sporty. Miata vs 86 is a better comparison. But none the less this was fun to see. But what I give you credit and why I love your show… the banter between you too, corny jokes… knowledge and just fun all around. Keep it up guys. Love your stuff!!

@t.k.morris

2 жыл бұрын

My dilemma is that while I enjoy having a back seat for practicality, I also much prefer a RWD car. I prefer a naturally aspirated motor also. Manual transmission is a must for me. I am unsure which of these two cars would be more reliable to own? Other than a drag race, which one is more enjoyable as an everyday driver? And lastly, If I am willing to buy a turbo sedan, How about the new Elantra N ??

I kept waiting for you to run them around Willow... that would be interesting.

You guys are the best car reviewers on KZread. By far the most entertaining, real enthusiast reviewers

Good vid guys like always keep it up.

Glad to see more affordable yet still sporty and fun to drive cars like these on your channel. Would love to see more like these, would like to see the 9th gen 3.5l v6 manual accord coupe vs others of its range. Please 🙏

@robertalicea5585

2 жыл бұрын

There a good daily plenty of power

@hoodieboy1515

Жыл бұрын

FR!!! The last accord V6 touring

Looking forward to the new Type R versus the GR Corolla in a drag race and how their lap times compare

@SlowFk8

2 жыл бұрын

Same I can’t wait. I thinking gr get it off the line and the R has a chance to reel her back in. But on a roll I think the r will get the win. But to me the true test is the track.

@alanblack1340

2 жыл бұрын

I’m sure the type r will freight train the gr the top end is crazy on the R

@xuananator

2 жыл бұрын

YAAAAS I was thinking just this haha

@GERONIMO326

2 жыл бұрын

The old Type R would dominate the Corolla on track, let alone the new one

@alanblack1340

2 жыл бұрын

@@GERONIMO326 I agree the type r has the fastest 60-120 out of all the cars in the class plus the fastest lap times

I'm hoping you guys do a comparison test between the 2 in the future. With the similar pricing, and your opinions on what you'd prefer and give up when comparing the livability and performance. Still an amazing video by the way

Love these drag and roll races

Have you guys thought about doing the U-drag thing? It’s informative and looks like fun!

@StinkySundae

2 жыл бұрын

Copyrighted by Motortrend

great video as always! Unrelated question: what's the exhaust system for the GR86?

@mantisushi

2 жыл бұрын

Stock most likely

After driving newer Si and sitting in the BRZ 86 etc... These cars are actual gems... So simple, so fun to drive. May treat myself to a new Si in a couple years! Glad to see they brought back my 2012 Si sunburst orange paint job!!!

This is the video I’ve been waiting for !

“The new Type-R will avenge it’s little Si brother” 🥲

@dripgod5129

2 жыл бұрын

The supra will avenge you 🥲 GR86 after the type R beats you

@valentinedpg

2 жыл бұрын

@@dripgod5129 the NSX will avenge its younger cousins.

@moca4783

Жыл бұрын

@@valentinedpg Honda baby!!!! And doesn’t need no third party engine too :)

@moca4783

Жыл бұрын

@@dripgod5129 no hate to toyota tho…

I'd go for the Civic ( and be content ) but will be so jealous for GR86/BRZ owners. Honestly 2 fantastic cars.

Been waiting to see this great choice for a video

This is the exact video I was waiting to see

Every time I hear James go, "And I'm James!" I think about that old South Park episode about Pip that had Malcolm McDowell open with "And I'm a British person."

Coming from an 2017 STI owner to the 2022 BRZ, I am thoroughly enjoying this thing. No regrets!

@thunderclap2205

Жыл бұрын

Do you still like it? I currently have 2015 STI and I am seriously considering trading it for a 2022 GR86. I am just scared I will miss the turbo/more power of the STI

@dannyve4982

Жыл бұрын

@@thunderclap2205 love it! You'd be surprised how much the BRZ/86 delivers despite being down on power. It's no straight line car, but neither is the STi (of course if you put a lot of money in it, but that's beside the point) Their both chassis balanced, drivers car. I think you'll enjoy the lighter, rwd, analog feel. You'd be surprised how they are both similar in their own way. I do miss the steering rack in the STI

@thunderclap2205

Жыл бұрын

@@dannyve4982 That's great to hear! I do like the idea of a smaller lighter car that should be more reliable. And I could always do FI later down the road if I really wanted more power. Though FI would probably negate the reliability lol

@dannyve4982

Жыл бұрын

@@thunderclap2205 also a reason I moved away from the EJ. Mind you she was extremely reliable, but, I wanted something newer and n/a

Dude I love those drag race

I wanted this video yesterday, I got it today! Thenks habebee

2022 wrx would be a good 3 way

The GR86 is a solid car … great design & handling at the price point.

2MILLION SUBS COMING - Congrats guys!

GREAT VIDEO, WE WANT MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS!!!

Not every day you see NA beat turbocharged. That redline does work!

Apparently, with the bigger Subaru engine it now has enough power to beat the Honda Civic Si. The old model could not do that, and it means that Subaru/Toyota listened to their customers and gave it a bigger engine the second time around. Backs up what the magazines have been saying - this car is substantially better than the first generation and it is a real sports car now.

@jdmguy14

2 жыл бұрын

They didn't quite listen. They settled in the middle.

@Buc_Stops_Here

2 жыл бұрын

@@jdmguy14 For its price point ($30,000) there is little out there that is faster. Want more performance, get a more expensive ($50,000) car!

@jpizel1070

2 жыл бұрын

@@Buc_Stops_Here WRX is faster and it's about the same price even though I think it looks hideous.

@Buc_Stops_Here

2 жыл бұрын

@@jpizel1070 True, unfortunately, that body cladding that many dislike is that new thing in the industry. Mazda has it now on the new CX-50 (not a competitor, but you get the idea).

@DragonKnightX12

Жыл бұрын

@@Buc_Stops_Here There’s plenty of cars faster for under $40k. Mustang Ecoboost Camaro V6 Elantra N Golf GTI WRX Midsize sedans with upgraded powertrains. What there isn’t is a cheap lightweight sports car with a turbo.

Awesome! Drag races that makes sense

You guys are awesome man

The ultimate drag race :D

Would love a track Battle!

@manuelalejandrojimenezgome632

2 жыл бұрын

This!.

I live for these drag races.

Really like your channel, and you do a great job. But I would be great to get some times for quarter mile👌

Toyota GR86 for me anyway. What a great improvement

Well what I've learned from 3 months of GR86 ownership is that 60 percent of its noise and harshness come from the PS4 tires. Change them to anything else, and you have a much quieter, more comfortable ride. The other thing I've learned is that I can't stop driving it. It's just so much fun zipping around town.

@pvtcmyers87

2 жыл бұрын

I hear ya my man. I got my Mazda Miata and I think the only other car I’d want is a Subaru BRZ.

@milesfathi

2 жыл бұрын

@@pvtcmyers87 Which generation of Miata? I was cross shopping with the ND2. I think both are special in their own way. The BRZ twins are a bit more serious and race car like, while the miata takes itself less seriously and focuses on fun alone.

@SPEEDYNOOB

2 жыл бұрын

@@milesfathi the nd2 rf is the best car for 30k fr

@benhill2454

2 жыл бұрын

The GR86 was finally launched today in the UK and I’ve ordered one. (manual transmission). I must now cancel the GR Yaris order now as I can’t afford both! What MPG are you getting from the GR86?

@milesfathi

2 жыл бұрын

@@benhill2454 Well live next to some really good twisty roads here in Canada and generally drive like a mad man. So my fuel economy is pretty bad. I get around 9 liter per 100km which is around 26 mpg.

Can't wait for the Type-R Race. Love the GR86 content.

Almost there! Very close to 2 million subscribers!👍

Honda take note: This is what happens when you ADD more power and not TAKE it away.

@keithjackson4985

2 жыл бұрын

Lol 😆 lol 😆 hilarious. I'm a total Honda guy. But that was funny.

@ahmadsair1584

2 жыл бұрын

The new SI may have less power but it has more torque and power available through the rev range...I might be wrong but that's what I know

@stubbingtonmarigold3032

2 жыл бұрын

Honda doesn’t care. Honda is on a mission, a mission to pump out as many boring ass cars as they can.

@keithjackson4985

2 жыл бұрын

@@ahmadsair1584 Seriously man! I like Hondas, but it's obvious which car performs better. We own two Si's. Their fun. If I where looking now though, the Si would not be on my list. Others are doing some things much better.

@keithjackson4985

2 жыл бұрын

@@stubbingtonmarigold3032 lol 😆 hilarious.

I think you guys should do shootout between the last of the naturally aspirated Civic Si and the current one, I bet the old one is faster in the speed trials.

I'm hoping the Type-R really improves over previous generations, but looking forward to future videos!

You guys should do more race videos!

there are going to be people with a garage of GR86, GR Yaris, GR Corolla and GR Supra all as manuals. I wouldn't mind being those people

A fun race to watch, but makes sense for the GR86 to win. The weight advantage is huge.

Great video

Thank you for leaving the car specs on the screen long enough for me to put my drink down and take a screen shot 👍

The gap was much larger than I expected. But the Honda has 4drs as a consolation.

@HandlewithcareVibes

2 жыл бұрын

= more hoes

I have a tuned Fiesta ST and I freaking love it. But I've been so tempted by the gr86 and the Veloster N lately... I feel like it's difficult to say no to the extra power and sound of the N, but it's also difficult to say no to rear wheel drive and the looks of that gr86...

@gottagofest1610

2 жыл бұрын

I had a Fiesta ST and tuned Focus ST. I was thinking the same with the GR 86 and N but, what do ya think about the Corrola GR?

@deejayimm

2 жыл бұрын

@@gottagofest1610 I love it but it's going to be a limited production vehicle. The circuit edition, which is the vehicle that everyone wants, is going to be an even more limited version of a limited production vehicle. I personally think it's going to be marked up to the freaking moon, so I haven't even been considering it. I wish Hyundai would bring the i20N over here but that probably will never happen. Toyota will definitely never bring the gr Yaris over here. So to me, it seems like it's either Veloster N or gr86.

@gottagofest1610

2 жыл бұрын

@@deejayimm Yup could not agree more. I'ma wait up and save for the Corrola GR. Hopefully mark ups and production get better in two or 3 years... Good luck to you too.

@Juvahh

2 жыл бұрын

Guys, don’t miss on the opportunity of buying a naturally-aspirated, manual & RWD car. That’s a freaking awesome package that is very rare and going to be even more difficult to find, and a bargain at Civic Si’s prices. The Veloster is nice but nothing more than your usual, everyday little FWD turbo car, just like everything else and much less fun to live with and, especially, to drive fast.

@deejayimm

2 жыл бұрын

@@Juvahh see everybody I talk to says it is an extremely fun car to drive, and its quick af. The new gr86 premium is for second slower around Virginia International Raceway than the 2019 veloster n. The other thing to remember is that the Hyundai comes with 3 times the warranty. There's also the Practical aspect of if I buy the gr86, I'll probably have to keep my Fiesta also because I sometimes need the haul things, and yes there's a lot more space in the back of a Fiesta ST than the gr86. If I get the N, theres 17k I can put down, because my six-year-old Fiesta is now worth 3 grand less than it was when I bought it new... insane. But really I don't want to get rid of my Fiesta, it's such a fun car.... I just feel like I need to get something else before the government gets their EV wet dream.

Just the video I needed lol, currently own a 2015 brz and am debating between the new gen and Civic Si

I still love being told that I’m watching TH!

The gr Corolla vs the civic type r would be a nice match up !!

@leolopez626

2 жыл бұрын

If the GR Yaris is anything to base it off the Corolla would dust it off the line but the Type R would eventually reel it in 😂

@jimgurganious6642

2 жыл бұрын

​@@leolopez626 If the hp of the GR Corolla is also underrated they may be pretty evenly matched.

As a Honda fan and current 21 FK8 owner and previous 17 Si owner I’m glad the new Si is getting bested by the competition, Honda get back to the drawing boards again. Great video💯🔥

@thrashingjustin

2 жыл бұрын

The si hasnt changed much. Actually its been going downhill

@nate1971

2 жыл бұрын

Same. 21 ctr here too. I just cannot get behind this generation of civic. Yes it has the better-ish interior, but I couldn’t be more bored with the exterior.

Some cars I'm very excited to see compete!

Thomas when he wins a race: 😀😊😁😎🤗😌 Thomas when he loses a race: 😦😧😲🤪😡😠 James when he wins/loses a race: 😃🇬🇧😃🇬🇧😃🇬🇧

From my understanding, the Civic is a good car but is limited in stock form. Minor bolt ons and a tune completely changes the car. With that said, I'm honestly really surprised how much quicker the GR86 is. I did not expect that much of a difference!

@thrashingjustin

2 жыл бұрын

All factory turbo cars you mean

@FRWD_FXLRST

2 жыл бұрын

Literally every car.

@drivescene6747

2 жыл бұрын

I remember when the SI was quicker than the 86

@wayward03

2 жыл бұрын

I'd assume if you wanted to keep your car running for more than say 30k miles a mild tune and simple parts would be the limit. At which point the added 50whp would catch and slowly pass the GR86. Would still probably lose on that track.

I'd love to see the Type-R against the 4cyl supra. Should be similar in price, but still quite different cars.

@GetOffMyLog

2 жыл бұрын

Ooo yes good idea

@user-ex1yk6ky5o

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately new type-r is probably gonna be almost the same hp and the same performance.

Eager to see TypreR vs Corolla GR matchup!!!! Thanks guys.

Totally agree, let's see that track test. Type r vs 86 and later down type r vs gr Corolla

The GR86 is the budget sports coupe that the modern day Civic Si or Prelude should have been.

@TheFK8Life

2 жыл бұрын

The Type R demolishes the GR86

would love a GR86 but man are they hard to find

I love the existence of both of these! I'd probably get the Si for price and everyday practicality though, if I ever move somewhere less congested and learn a manual lol

@larrysmith6797

2 жыл бұрын

Weenie.

@speedracer2please

2 жыл бұрын

@@larrysmith6797 found the guy killing the manuals!

I like this kind of battle , thumb up

I've always been a Honda Type R guy, owned them, love them, but the massive holding wait for the 22 Type R when its obviously tested ready and been ready for some time means i've jumped ship to Toyota. Supra now on order.

@jpSD297

2 жыл бұрын

I own a 21 Supra, you’re going to love it!

@trophyhunterssupplyllc7163

2 жыл бұрын

Supra 3.0 level performance is where it should start at, any car that cant break into the 3 second range 0-60 isnt a “performance” car in my book. You will love the Supra! 4 banger cars like these are neat daily drivers for cheap and economic transportation to work though, id like a BRZ for that purpose, still might order one.

@prxvailtm7960

2 жыл бұрын

Jumped ship to BMW* that’s not a bad thing

@Nick-sx6jm

2 жыл бұрын

@@trophyhunterssupplyllc7163 Exactly, if your "sporty" car can be beat by a stock base level truck it sucks as anything other than a cheap economy car.

@Andre-xf7tp

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nick-sx6jm Does a truck do a 1:31 at willow springs? also does the supra do that?

So weird finally seeing the 86 beating anything in a straight line 😻

Nice drag race! I'd be curious to see MK8 GTI vs GR 86. Pretty sure the gap would be smaller than that

I can't wait to see the Nissan Z versus the Supra MT. I love your guys videos and have my fingers crossed that this happens.

They should try the Corolla GR vs Civic Type R when it comes out, that’ll be cool

@3man659

2 жыл бұрын

They definitely will, seeing that the GR Corolla is Toyota’s (long awaited) answer to the Civic Type R

@leobustamante7436

2 жыл бұрын

@@3man659 You can add the STI to the list lol

@driveri1435

2 жыл бұрын

Already have the gr yaris vs type r. Nothing new there

@Philbyyyy

2 жыл бұрын

Americans are 18 months late. Check the GR Yaris VS Type R videos. I suspect the Corolla to perform slightly less than the Yaris

@3man659

2 жыл бұрын

@@Philbyyyy I mean, considering we in NA didn’t get the GR Yaris, seeing the GR Corolla vs Type R would be a better comparison. They’re both also direct competitors (Corolla vs Civic) so we could get better info on how they perform against each other and how practical they are to live with etc…

The new gr86 with the facelift really grew on me after a while. Looks more refined and tamed compared to the first gen. The civic si definitely has more tuning potential but out of the box the gr86 is a great car! Nice work. 😃

@jdmguy14

2 жыл бұрын

Its a subaru.

@jarjarbinks6018

2 жыл бұрын

@@jdmguy14 Spearheaded by Toyota engineers with a body designed by Toyota using a Toyota transmission and Toyota fuel injectors. There is a lot of Subaru _and_ Toyota in this car which isn’t surprising. The whole story behind this car was that Toyota engineers grabbed a Subaru Legacy to use it’s low center of gravity engine, extensively modified it, and then presented the car to Subaru to convince them to collaborate with Toyota to create a unique sports car. It’s a Toyota and Subaru endeavor

I think a 2022 Toyota GR86 vs 2022 Volkswagen GLI will be a great match up. Both are priced fairly about the same and identical in horsepower. So far, I have not found a video on KZread yet. I hope to see that comparisons on your channel first. Keep up the great content guys!

@JdoggStudios

2 жыл бұрын

GLI will SMASH these junkers

Hopefully I can get a new 86 for myself soon! And PLEASE make that 86 vs type r video!

Super disappointed you guys didn't do a lap in each ride and get the times and try to best each other!

@ragweedmakesmesneeze

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, total tease when he said he did a hot lap in the Si in his closing thoughts. I'm sure there were filming/insurance/track limitations why they didn't give us lap times of both vehicles like they sometimes do at their Toronto "home track." But kind of a bummer.

This just makes me that more excited for my GR86 to arrive! 🥰

@gsxr1189

2 жыл бұрын

They could do a video drag racing the Power Wheels Barbie Jeep against the Power Wheels Corvette and it would be just as entertaining as watching these.

@brokentradgedy

2 жыл бұрын

ur not getting one

@deathbysockpuppets

2 жыл бұрын

Okay.

@ActNasty5

2 жыл бұрын

@@deathbysockpuppets grats bro. I went from last gen 86 to 3.0 supra but this gr86 is honestly sick!

@deathbysockpuppets

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Supra 3.0 is sweet and easily a superior car to the GR86. I might have pursued one if they made it in MT. With the way the auto industry is going I felt the need to pull the trigger and buy me a 86 before everything is electric. 😒. This might be the last solely combustion engine car I buy 😭

Thank you

Its race season baby!