My very first muscle car!! Nice review bro.

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Oh nice! A good option for sure

Congratulations for video , thank you

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad you liked it!

Thanks for making this video. Seems to be a clone of what I bought. I bought a 2023 Mustang ecoboost premium convertible in grabber blue - added 201A equipment group + active valve perf exhaust. Did not include the high performance package for $6,500 as I dont need that extra horsepower but its all leather with the stitching and larger screen. All looks really nice inside. My total was 60 thousand Canadian. I don't need an 8 cyclinder for daily driving. I could've got the GT for the same price approximately but with no convertible top. This is my first car and I'm a first time driver, so I'm very happy with my order. This saves on my insurance and gas. I can't think of any reason to have an 8 cylinder other than just to say I have one.

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing and congrats on your purchase! If you aren't into the extra power, that's fine! But someone who wants that will buy it, not just to say they have one, but because they want that power in their car! It's great because there's a few engine options depending on what the buyer wants and will use! Sounds like you got the right car for you!

@Flint92

Жыл бұрын

Congrats, I just picked up my New 2023 Ecoboost Convertible in Atlas Blue with 201A package and love it. Window to order 2023 was extremely short, like a month, I think 🤔

@shaanm6360

8 ай бұрын

60k for that is a lot...

Love the grey wheels, this package would be very nice in black

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's a good looking setup for sure!

@undergroundgaming3172

Жыл бұрын

@@BrosFOURRSpeed those wheels and the Brembo brakes are NOT part of the HPP package. You only get those with the additional handling package. Same with the Magneride suspension. Please get your facts straight.

I watched and commented on the other Ecoboost High Performance video but I will comment on this one as well. I personally love all of the Ecoboost Mustang Manual cars, I think their very underrated BUT you bring up a great point about price and what I'm about to say here is important. I agree with you 1000% that I don't think someone should be buying that car for $47k. Years ago when they were still newer, they were MUCH cheaper. I saw a picture I took in 2018 that you could order a 2017 Mustang Ecoboost base (0 option) and with available incentives, cost $24k. And that you could get add the Performance Package to that and cost $27k (back then performance package was between $2,000 and $3,000, you didn't receive the badging, serial number, the appearance differences, as well as SOME of the other High Performance components, like the 330 hp/350 torque engine. You did get the 3.55 final drive, their own wheels/tires, better suspension than base, bigger radiator, the gauges in the dash, the 4 piston brakes, 18-20 model years got a spoiler as well. Performance Package and High Performance are two very different things but Performance Package stopped in 2020 for Ecoboost in favor of the High Performance.) I remember a Ford dealer having a 2015 Mustang Ecoboost in Yellow with Performance Package for $18k with 60k miles, the car was only THREE YEARS OLD at the time. So although I love the Ecoboost Mustang to the end, I think the greatest point right now is pricing for all the Mustang Ecoboosts, I just looked online andbrand new local inventory had manual non performance pack options in the $35k range, that's pricey!! To conclude, like you are saying, the Ecoboost Mustang currently IS a good car, but not for the money they are asking for them, they aren't a bargain like they use to be. I believe too that the used market for Mustang Ecoboosts are really high as well, I really thought the use Mustang Ecoboost would be $12-15k range by now, it's really in the $18-25k range for them used even for 2015 models, and that's HARD to justify, absolutely. So good video! (Note: I see you guys recognize the black Ecoboost you guys drove in the mountains wasn't the Performance Package, I think the review was good and fair but if you guys could change the description to let the audience know the car wasn't the Performance Package, I think that'd be great and fair, thank you!)

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s certainly a fine car. But nearly $50k for this too much. The EcoBoost used to be an entry level musclecar. This is a ton of money for what it is. Sub $40k it’d be a great option. But at this price there are some way better sportscar out there

@stavi017

Жыл бұрын

@@BrosFOURRSpeed I LOVE the Mustang Ecoboost but I 100% agree. I don't blame anyone that can't justify the price and thefore car entirely. I still want to get one eventually though lol

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

@@stavi017 lol yeah it won’t be a car for everyone. At this price there are some good options.

@BrayZap

Жыл бұрын

I get what you're saying but think about how many car guys care about buying a car brand new for MSRP. You can get a used one with about 10k miles on it for $30,000-$33,000 and 10k miles is still basically a new car. I just don't understand why people only talk about brand new msrp on cars when in reality most people don't care about that

@stavi017

Жыл бұрын

@@BrayZap Just depends on someone's situation of course. If the S650 Ecoboost was a manual, I wouldn't wait to get one and therefore MSRP would be a factor for me. But absolutely you can wait a little and buy one with a little bit more mileage or age at a lower price. That's why I try to talk about both the new and used market, totally.

Great review bro, thank you! I have an Oxford White 2021 Ecoboost Premium High Performance with the handling pack… I think mine was $44,000 or 46, I can’t remember, but I love it… I really wanted a GT… but I just couldn’t bring myself to pull the trigger, then when I saw mine, with the off centered grille, and the show stopper red seats… I’m going to make my first review video soon, I’ll send you a link… but thanks for all of your info! Peace! #mustangmikecastle out!

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing and glad you are enjoying it!

Love the color, but Idk about a 10-speed. The premium package really boosts things up. For me, for the price, I would jump on up to the GT. Or yes, the BMW. Good video Brian! 👏

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I like the manual way better. 10 speed seems jerky in slow speeds

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

I'm defintily not a fan of the 10 speed. Jerky in slow speeds and paddles are slow to respond. Nothing like a ZF 8 speed

Just bought this car with all the packages for 38K OTD at that price point I’d say it was 100% worth it.

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Thats a great price for sure! Filmed a few of these nearing $50k. Don't see paying that much for it lol

Haven't been on "the tube" much recently due to the holidays but I'm back lol. Hope you and the fam had a great Christmas! I'm not feeling this Mustang either. Can't decipher why they would put a 4 cylinder in a stang and charge this much from the jump.

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah we've had a great weekend with family! Lots of money for this car for sure. The BMW M240i seems like a bargain for similar money. Way faster and better handling. And it's a BMW inside lol

Picked up this model used for 29.8k usd in black. only 20 clicks on it, perf pkg, premium, and 201A

@BrosFOURRSpeed

8 ай бұрын

Nice! Not a bad price!

Ecoboost mustang is an interesting car for me. Ford ecoboost is a hit or miss, however I do like the new mustang style. Thanks for sharing Brian!

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's fine car with everything it has to offer. I just think they are getting wayyy to expensive. This used to be a good entry level muscle car type of vehicle. But at nearly $50k, its far from an entry level car in price. But other cars at this money are way steps above in performance and refinement

@Static_MK3Focus

Жыл бұрын

@@BrosFOURRSpeed inflation is killing us all!🤣

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

For sure! Too bad we can't go back to the good days just a few years ago. Things were booing so nice and then everything went downhill fast

@Static_MK3Focus

Жыл бұрын

@@BrosFOURRSpeed crazy how expensive things are getting and how expensive they got. Not sure how much you’re paying for gas in North Carolina, but here in so cal, at one point I was paying almost $10 a gallon. Now we’re back down to about $4.50 thankfully

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Crazy! Were closer to $3.50 now at least. But yeah people running the show these days are ruining everything lol

I absolutely love the performance pack on my 2019. Its the same everything as a GT minus the V8. Same brakes, suspension, quad exhaust, appearance. If you dont go to a track and just want something that turns heads and is fun to drive there's no other better balanced car on the market and you can get that much cheaper slightly used

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's a solid choice. But for $50k there are way better cars out there

@BrayZap

Жыл бұрын

@@BrosFOURRSpeed Nobody really buys cars new so that doesn't even matter, I got the same car for $32k

I’m looking at a 2021 performance package with 1,364 miles and it’s only 29k is this reasonable?

@samlouielouienov2682

Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah. I bought the 2022 vehicle a few months back for $41k because I had no credit. 29k? Hope you got it

47K is too much tp pay for this car. However, in my opinion, you neglected to address several key points, with regard to this trim of the Mustang Ecoboost and the BMW M240I. First, no one should be paying MSRP for a mustang. Ford is one of the few manufacturers with available inventory at most dealers now...and it is winter time. On the Eastern Coast of the United States, multiple high volume Ford Dealerships are significantly discounting their mustang inventory at/around 10 percent off the MSRP. A friend of mine recently factory ordered a 2023 Mustang EB HPP, albeit in a different color and minus the $1900 handling package. Total Out the Door Price (tax, title, license, and fees included) was $42,500. Add the handling package to his build, so it is built as the car you tested, the OTD price would be $44,400. Not too bad for what this car offers. Step up to a Mustang GT with the Performance Package, premium trim interior and the automatic and the price is above $50K. Second, and last point, the BMW M240I is no doubt a faster, better built and better handling car. But, will consumers be able to negotiate a deal to purchase one at the price of a Mustang EB HPP? Not likely. And let's also be honest in the fact the maintenance (especially after, let's say 3 years and/or 36K miles) on the BMW will be much more expensive and the cost to insure the M240i is will be more expensive than the Mustang EB HPP as well. For the money saved on the Mustang EB HPP, a consumer may upgrade the handling and power to equal and/or surpass the BMW240I. Will the handling and power increases added by after market modifications by a consumer to the Mustang EB HPP make it a better engineered car than the BMW M240I? No...BMW's are more expensive for a reason: they are (in general) better made, better designed sports cars and better engineered. However, for many people who don't want to pay the initial purchase price, higher maintenance and insurance costs on a BMW (or any German sports car for that matter), spending at/around $45K, including a few minor handling and power modifications is a relatively inexpensive (for cars in this day and age) manner to have a nimble, well-handling and quick/semi-fast sports car. Overall, well-done review, as always. Just a couple of points for you...and viewers of this video...to consider if they may be interested in the Mustang EB HPP or a BMW M240i. Thank you!

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Hard to really talk about dealership deals and discounts since that varries. But the B58 in the M240i is a rock solid engine. Much more robust then the EB. And with the same amount of mods it makes way more power and the transmission delivers it to the ground so much better. For me even if the BMW ould be $5k more after a few years. It's such a better experience, I think it's well worth it. Now if the Mustang could be $40k, thats a big enough difference to sacrifice the performance and quality. But new BMW cars especially ones with the B58, are rock solid cars. My Supra made 500 HP and was bulletproof, as are all of the Supras. Ive heard nothing but good things with any car with a B58 and ZF transmission. The 10 speed ford trans and 2.3L I havent heard as many good things about. M240i is well worth it

@agm2062

Жыл бұрын

@@BrosFOURRSpeed Thanks for the reply. I think our discussion is more nuanced than your reply indicates. And to be honest, it isn't hard to discuss or "factor" discounts into the equation. Not trying to be argumentative miond you. Many people qualify for Ford's A or Z plan, there are multiple rebates offered by Ford for various things and for informed consumers who are willingly to do their car buying research and negotiate the Out-The-Door price, eight to ten percent off the MSRP isn't difficult to obtain at a dealership for a 22/23 mustang; so, price discount is very much in our discussion. And it will almost certainly be much easier to get a Mustang EB HPP discounted than a BMW M240I. The discussion point in my point wasn't relating to the B58 engine or its robustness in comparison to the Mustang. Rather, it is a discussion of a "Value For Your Dollar Proposition." For $45K, as used in my example, the Mustang EB HPP is certainly a better "price value" than the BMW M240I. And if a consumer is willing to forego the premium interior, a Mustang EB HPP may be purchased for 40K...again, discounts and price negotiation are key in the ability to make a 40K purchase a reality. I understand your experience with the Supra...and the Supra is a great car, with a superb and powerful engine. If a consumer purchased a 40K EB HPP and invested $5K in modifications, the Mustang EB would be very competetive to a Supra and even your modified Supra...for thousands less. In the end, I, and others I wager, don't agree that the M240I is the "Best Bang For The Buck." For $50K (or more) for a BMW M240I and $45K for a EB HPP...I'll take the EB HPP with the lower insurance cost, lower maintenance costs, "in the same ball park performance and handling as a Supra" (with a few modifications)...and save the $5K. Our opinions just differ in our preferences...which is perfectly fine...no issues :). Thanks for the review and your honest assessment...I appreciate honesty and integrity.

@postalpancho

Жыл бұрын

@@agm2062 you are making some huge assumptions on BMWs reliability. BMW is ranked 3rd in Consumer reports behind Toyota/Lexus. I would just say that a more fair comparison to this EB Mustang would be the 230i M sport, even though you could get a RWD M240i for under $50k if you are willing to wait 6 months and not check any options. I picked up a 230i m sport for $44k and I’m not 100% sure if it is faster but I know the B48/B58 is going to be more reliable long term and it definitely feels far more special than a Mustang. There are Mustangs around every corner in my neighborhood, they are great but they seem to be a dime a dozen. My BMW turns heads everywhere I go, nobody cares about a Mustang with all do respect.

@agm2062

Жыл бұрын

@@postalpanchoReliability ratings are, at best, subjective to whomever is doing the review/survey. A better...and more accurate...indicator is the opinion and advise of certified mechanics. Many certified mechanics advise their customers/consumers to either sell or trade their expensive German built cars after three...or so...years and/or 36K miles, due to the expensive maintenance costs that these cars typically require after that period of time. And there isn't much argument...in my opinion...that a BMW should "feel more special than a mustang" for the average price difference between the two. Nevertheless, for $45K, a properly configured base trim level Mustang Ecoboost with the HPP package (for about $40Kish OTD cost) and $5K in modifications will all but certainly show its tail lights to a 230I and it will "be in the same ball park" as a an M240i...for thousands less. And I would also disagree..most respectfully...that many people "do care about mustangs"....if no one cared, why has the Ford Mustang been the best selling sports car in the WORLD for seven consecutive years? Pretty difficult to imagine "Nobody cares about a mustang" if the Ford Mustang is the best selling sports car in the WORLD....for seven consecutive years.

@postalpancho

Жыл бұрын

@@agm2062 you sound ridiculous dude. Enjoy your outdated Ford Mustake EcoBoost. Keep your opinions, I’m happy with Consumer Reports factual information.

So I'm looking at renting a HPP Ecoboost or new GR86 for a vacation in Florida. Which would you pick?

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Depends on the roads you'll get to drive on and how much you need to carry. Personally I'd rather buy the GR86 then a Mustang. But if you have more straight road cruising and some luggage, Mustang will be nicer. If you just have a backpack or so and have some twisty roads to play with, go for the 86.

@kylenewberry8598

Жыл бұрын

@@BrosFOURRSpeed Thanks!!!

The other reason people would pick this car is it turns heads. Nobody really breaks their neck or compliments you every time you park your car in a bmw m240i. I have the need for green 2019 ecoboost and nobody says anything to my friend in his nardo gray m240i but everyone comes up to me about my ecoboost lol

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Really tho? I see Mustangs everyday. They aren't special in my area. So for me they are way too generic. The Euro cars catch my eye lol

@BrayZap

Жыл бұрын

@@BrosFOURRSpeed yeah we have barely any mustangs at all around here especially ones that aren't base rental spec ones. Nothing about bmws really stand out

I have it’s twin, mine is chassis number #N0922 and I noticed your test car was #N0924. I’m in Western North Carolina ( Hendersonville).

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Where did you see that number in this video!? But that’s cool!!

@flashg67

Жыл бұрын

@@BrosFOURRSpeed When you were panning the camera over the dash plaque, I paused it and was able to read the chassis #.

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

@@flashg67 forgot it had that!

Will the car also be available in Europe in the future?

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Ай бұрын

Maybe

230i m-sport or Mustang EB performance pack? I went BMW, I’m sure the mustang has a slight advantage in straight line performance but the BMW will beat it everywhere else. Build quality, infotainment, handling, interior, backseat room, transmission behavior. The B48 has proven to be very reliable. BMW is ranked 3rd in consumer reports after Toyota/Lexus.

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the 230 with m package is great! I’d take that too over the EB. Save money and get a really fun car with a nice interior!

These 4 cyl Mustangs handle so much better then the GTs. All that weight off the nose is very noticeable.

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

With the handling pack I can see that. But still nothing compared to the lighter weight Japanese and German cars. These are not for the turns

@mikeriv60

Жыл бұрын

@@BrosFOURRSpeed Nope they are not that's why I still drive my 2002 reflex silver VW Beetle Turbo S hahahahaha. I love that little "bugger".

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeriv60 yeah I bet that handles welll!

@BrayZap

Жыл бұрын

@@BrosFOURRSpeed motor trend did a track run using a real professional driver and it came in JUST behind the civic type R which is a beast on track. Its a very good handling car this isn't 2010 anymore

Also the optional Recaro seats are insane nobody can believe you can option recaros into the ecoboost lol. They are so snug its unreal. The manual is much better for the ecoboost. The 10 speed auto is more for the GT and that's it

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Worth getting for sure!

nice edit before blowing the stop sign @11:28 ;)

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t blow a stop sign at all, completely different road.

0:21 ARE YOU MOCKING MIKE WITH MSRP'S AT THE END OF THE VIDEO?

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

No, we talked about that together lol

Thank god they’re going for 26k now 😂

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Oh wow! Yeah this was way too much for a 4cyl

@thefitnesslife4988

Жыл бұрын

The ecoboosts depreciate in a blink of an eye

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

@@thefitnesslife4988 yeah I bet! I’d pay maybe max of $30k for a loaded one. But even then I’d buy a BMW 2 series coupe over it every time lol

Highway robbery 47,000 😂

Unveiling the Msrp at the end of the video sucks

@BrosFOURRSpeed

Жыл бұрын

Why?

@thumperjr100

Жыл бұрын

Just fast forward

$47k for a ecoboost mustang. They on crack.

@BrosFOURRSpeed

11 ай бұрын

haha yeah way too much! Can buy some nicer cars for that money