What tips do you have for newcomers beside subbing to the channel and liking the vid?

@gibbybenchmarksshit4951

2 жыл бұрын

Dont buy a non FFB/DD wheel. I did the mistake of doing that, and it was okay, since it was my first wheel. But now, after having a g29 for a couple of months, no ffb makes simracing terrible, so save up and go for ffb.

@solumnisdead6457

2 жыл бұрын

watch Initial D

@randomcallsign

2 жыл бұрын

oh....

@solumnisdead6457

2 жыл бұрын

@@randomcallsign it's an important one

@Chris-rf6xj

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t buy the t150! The g29 and t300 are better platforms. The T150 is a bit mehhh…

Keep in mind that starting May 23rd, there will be a sale for racing games on steam, which probably will include Assetto Corsa with all DLCs for less than 10€ (among other good deals)

@andreeeee517

2 жыл бұрын

I remember buying assetto corsa with all dlc's for 11€ and then 2 years later the game was only 7€ for the same thing

@example795

2 жыл бұрын

there was already one of the biggest sales, iRacing was 50% off. I got ACC with 20 euro and also 2 important dlcs. it doesn't need to be easter or christmas to get sales on steam, just keep an eye out on the store.

@osergergfd2501

2 жыл бұрын

@@example795 sales dont work with iracing lol

@brunther

2 жыл бұрын

thankyou bruh i just got assetto corsa + every single dlc for 7.99

I race on PlayStation 4 and now 5. Having started with the Thrustmaster T150 pro (which has the T3PA pedals, much better than the standard two pedal set) I soon upgraded to the T300 snd the difference is staggering. I also then invested in the open wheel mod and recently got the Ferrari SF1000 wheel (still with the T300). I use the Wheel Stand Pro so I can play from my couch and fold it away when not in use.

Buy what you can afford.

I would advice anyone starting out to go for a T300(RS) at a minimum, just stay clear or replace the 2 pedal set of the standard T300. Though the Logitech offerings are ok, I personally preferred the T300RS (I owned) over the G29 (a friend owned) by quite a margin (T150 is kinda crap, T500 bit stronger FFB, but less detail than the T300). 1st upgrade should be a load pedal set (and preferably a way to mount everything to not a desk) 2nd hand is your friend. For anyone in NL, marktplaats is king (but also check out tweakers). My upgrade path: - Cheap no name brand wheel for og xbox (2nd hand free, also gave it away for free) - T300RS + T3PA pedals + TH8A shifter + wheels stand pro (all 2nd hand) - Upgraded above with extra rim and Fanatec CSL Elite load cell pedal set & Oculus Rift (all 2nd hand) - Sold everything except the LC pedal set > Fanatec CSW 2.5 + F1 V2 APM (2nd hand) + SQ 1.5 shifter (new) + Next level racing Wheel stand DD (new on sale) + P100 (2nd hand rim for rally) - Sold CSW + P100 > upgraded with CSL DD 8nm + Universal hub (+CS mag shifters + 285mm OMP rim / 320mm Sparco rim) + Hall sensor handbrake (all new except Sparco rim & handbrake) * looking for a 2nd hand McLaren GT3 V2 for a decent price and maybe an Elgato stream deck as a button box, but in no hurry. I don't have space for a rig and the price for a pedal set or wheel base upgrade is too steep atm. So watch out and be warned. It can be an addictive hobby and a decent money sink. But if you're smart about buying and selling 2nd hand, you can get most of the money you put in back out of it for years of fun.

@randomcallsign

2 жыл бұрын

Listen to him

@xeric1953

2 жыл бұрын

100% yes. I did about 3 weeks of looking up review comparisons before buying mine last month and anyone looking to play anything other than forza horizons and be serious at all in racing sims needs to get at least a t300rs. The logitechs make a horrible rattling/grinding sound when it does it’s feedback effects it sounds like it’s breaking itself in there. T300rs is the first wheel as you go up in price that is quiet to use, doesn’t feel cheap, and turns smoothly on your hands. It’s why I’m not surprised that it’s constantly out of stock and took over a month to come back and ship to me after ordering

@chazznl8823

2 жыл бұрын

Bro wat is je discord kom beetje driften op forza

Damn. Nostalgia with the FM 4 garage music in the background. GJ!

I just got into "Sim racing". I bought the T248 and a playseat challenge. This had the highest convenience level and my GF just accept it. Easy to store and get out. The wheel is for me amazing (its my first wheel). The pedals feels amazing and the Chair is great. Im playing F1 on PS5 so that might factor in to it I don't know. But Im happy with the set up, in a few years I Can totally see myself upgrading to the Fanatec GT DD kit. But for now, I'm superhappy with the one I got. The Gear-paddles feels good, the wheels is a nice size and price.

@scottwoodtraining

2 жыл бұрын

The foldable cockpits ROCK. I went a similar route with a g29 and a NLR GT Lite. So nice to be able to put it away when needed.

I would like to take this time to say thank you for making this video in memory of williams Marche,

Love this kind of video’s👌👍

just got a thrustmaster tx for less than $230 (crappy 2 pedals though but those can be upgraded down the line), super excited for it to arrive

For T300, while the GT edition is ok, if you can find it, the Ferrari Alcantara edition would be the one to go for. Just like GT edition, it comes with the T3PA pedals, but also has the 599 Alcantara rim, which is bigger and lighter For games, especially if you like rally, then DiRT Rally 2.0 is a must have Also, if you're not into competitive racing, truck sims are worth considering (ETS2 and ATS)

How to get into it on a budget? Buy used. Playseat Challenges or Alu Rigs as well as used T300 or G29 Wheels get sold for a reasonable price. Same with Thrustmaster TLCM and Fanatec pedals. Be patient and buy when you find the right one. Also I would recommend going for the T300 over the G29 since its rather easy to tighten the belt with it. And if you plan to get an AluRig its one of the items you absolutely should look at in the used market, because metal doesn't really wear off - beyond some scratches.

I have bought used t150 pro, starting out in sim racing, wish me luck :)

@perrygriffin2371

2 жыл бұрын

Thats what i did a month ago i think a tooth is broke wheb i turn left it sounds strsnge lol dont use tomahawk on gt7 deffo a cheap wheel breaker

@musikalniyfanboichik

2 жыл бұрын

@@perrygriffin2371 oof thanks for the heads up man. i don't really play gt7 so i think i'm safe.

Currently on my first racing setup. It's a G29 with the h pattern shifter, and a vevor sim racing stand off Amazon for 80 dollars. Total setup was less than 500. Im overall happy with the purchase, and the wheel is getting its use with multiple Sims on ps4. Well worth the initial investment with plenty of room for upgrades later down the road.

Since no one mentioned it, I thought I'd bring up the Next Level Racing GT-Lite and F-GT Lite. Both rigs are completely foldable like the Playseat, and have floorplates to bolt in the pedals, and a mesh back on the seat which is nice. The GT Lite costs the same as the Challenge. The F-GT costs about $70 more, but has A LOT more adjustability, you can even convert it from an upright "GT" seating position to a fully reclined Formula/Kart position. The only complaint I have is that it's not as sturdy as a solid built rig so the chair vibrates a little when the wheel vibrates, but that's going to be the case with any foldable rig. It's a solid choice if you're looking for something portable and functional.

Thanks for the Video and Info. I picked up a G29 With Peddles and Shifter for 249.99 Looking forward to playing.

Use a flight joystick as a handbrake. I like Rally :)

nice video! i just bought a used t300rs alcantara for 175us, coming from a g923 it feels so nice and even tho i liked the g923s pedals better the difference in ffb makes up for it

@cattcameo

2 жыл бұрын

where did you get a t300 for 175?

@Pigey

2 жыл бұрын

@@cattcameo in a facebook sim racing group lol, i had found one for 100 on marketplace but someone beat me to that one

@purpletigerracing7087

2 жыл бұрын

Get the TCLM pedals.

@Pigey

2 жыл бұрын

@@purpletigerracing7087 yea I’ve been thinking about getting those and another rim, probably the open wheel add on

5:45. this is literally the first time i heard a reviewer say the g29 was smoother. the plus i heard from the g29 is that it has more attack and the t150 t300 are smoother and accurate. tbh im pretty sure i heard it in another video you made. donno. my t150 is in the mail. thanks for all the advice. i think from what i have read. they are all pretty go at that price point.

I was able to snag the ps version of the g923 open boxed with brand new shifter for $300 and the f-gt lite open box for $200. Literally a complete budget sim cockpit for $500 lol

i feel like the playseat challenge got presented in a bit of a negative way. i got it and i am veery pleased by it it is true that it is not that sturdy but not to the point where your whole wheel is moving more like the vibrations of the wheel get translated to the frame of the seat which results in some sort of budget motion rig lmao

I’m liking the g29 wheel it works good with gt7

@captainschpok2614

2 жыл бұрын

Careful with the FFB and rattle. My g29 broke on 35% in GT sport, simply turning in to the first corner at Tsukuba in the E30 coming out of pits

Forza Motorsport 4 OST is the perfect background music for every sim racing video.

Logitech G920 - GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR When I was shopping around for a wheel and pedal set I went with the T300RS GT package. Alot of new comers doing research will come across reviews about the T300 overheating etc. I can confidently say after 4 years of daily running that I have had not a single issue with my unit. Regardless of what someone opts to buy, enjoy!

@lesexpos4469

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks this is my biggest fear with all the bad reviews on internet

@suhdud4646

2 жыл бұрын

​@@lesexpos4469 I live in an area that hits 40deg C during summer and can say I have never had an isssue where the motor looses strength. Also If you fear heat, you can always manually turn on the cooling fan. There are alot of Thrustmaster guides online that in the TM software, you need to set the application FFB strength to 70% and ingame to 100%. I found if having my TM software FFB set to 100% that I was loosing fidelity and FFB information as it was just too strong. Lesser FFB can actually be give you more information but I wouldnt suggest going less than 60% in the software.

Moza r9 is a great base I have it with the moza gs wheel rim but 👍 zero regrets

@thehumblepundit9790

2 жыл бұрын

I'm looking at the MOZA R9, but the wheels and pedals are crazy expensive. Hopefully, when they release their mid range stuff, it'll be more affordable.

I'll get a G920, was thinking about buying a second hand one, but a new one is just a little more expensive.

the forza 4 menu music is so great

Do research on KZread. Research every wheel your considering. I opted for a T300rs. With an upgrade to pedals as my first purchase. I bought a second hand Omega stand for less than half new price. I bought all my game's off cdkeys at less than half the price on Steam.

As someone who has been using Thrustmaster for about 5 years now, I just can't recommend them long term. I've had a TMX that died in about 2 years, upgraded to a TX, which died in about 2 years, and I'm currently on my second TX. I haven't been particularly hard on my equipment, the wheel base just fries with a couple years of consistent use. I am also on my second T3PA pedal set as a spring has gone weird and clicks into place whenever I pressed in the clutch pedal with enough force for me to feel it through my foot. The worst thing about Thrustmaster is that when something inevitably fails, they do everything within their power in the manufacturing process to prevent repairs. Really scummy shit, wires that are so short that you physically cant disassemble something without wither breaking it or reaching in blindly with a flathead screwdriver to undo a clip that was clearly never meant to come apart and when you finally do after much cursing, you find this red anti tamper gunk blocking all the bolts you need to undo in order to service said part. I don't know if Logitech or Fanatec does this as I've never had a Logitech go bad in all my years using them since the PS2 and I am still yet to upgrade to a Fanatec.

Here is my tip, if you are low on money, space, time or wife doesn't understand your need for speed: gyro steering is not bad at all. I have T300 wheel, but it is usually inconvenient to pull it out, mount it and play for half an hour. So i mainly go with Steam controller that has great gyro, very precise, and works in almost all games i have. I do have LC pedals but they are always under the desk. IMO it's a valid option for solid immersion (that's mostly what wheels do, add to immersion, unlike pedals that lift the game to the next level). Maybe do a video on that topic.

@chrisg.2962

2 жыл бұрын

Here's a tip at at least for the wife part get all your stuff before so at least you have an excuse

@samuelg9115

2 жыл бұрын

It look like a good option, but there's no force feedback at all... And steam doesn't sell them anymore I believe

@chilli-soup

2 жыл бұрын

Playseat challenge.

@Bonkikavo

2 жыл бұрын

@@samuelg9115 Force feedback is an immersion thing, won't make you drive better. Getting good pedals will do much more. No steam controller any more unfortunately, but you have controllers with gyro on the market, or try to find used.

@kylebenitez8926

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bonkikavo Heavily disagree on saying ffb is just immersion and won’t improve your driving. Maybe if you’re playing arcades or simcades

If you are really on a budget I've found that the Logitech G29 paired with the TrueBrake mod to be a very solid option. The mod makes the Logitech pedal have the same feel as a load cell for around $65 shipped. The GT Omega art is also a good budget chassis, although if I were to do it again I'd probably go with extruded aluminum to allow for a better upgrade path in the future.

@rauljimenez414

2 жыл бұрын

Word. I have that with a PS4 and couldn't be happier. I wish there was an way to connect the pedals to a Fanatec DD pro so I could keep them and save at least 200€ in a future update of gear

@ryanviertel7059

2 жыл бұрын

@@rauljimenez414 I've thought about this and you could probably just keep them plugged in to the Logitech steering wheel and just turn off force feedback in GHub. So you'd have two steering wheel plugged in. One for steering, the other just sitting on the floor so you can use the pedals. Super janky but I bet it would work. You might run into software problems if a game only allows one active input at a time though.

@PhonyBread

2 жыл бұрын

@@rauljimenez414 For PC you can make or buy a USB adapter for the pedals w/o the wheel. Not sure if it works with PS4, though...

@adoctsswerve6498

2 жыл бұрын

Yo send link for de brake mod

My first wheel was Logitech G920 with H-shifter and after that Logitech G923. I love those wheels so much!!! To day i drive with fanatec. But those Logitech wheels are not bad at all....exelent low budjet wheel.

@ozgurkuzu2202

Жыл бұрын

i have g923 i am happy with it.i want to ask if ur time trials improved after upgrade to fanatec wheel ? Does it feel more realistic ? Thanks

@laitsu7321

Жыл бұрын

@@ozgurkuzu2202 with Fanatec you can feel everything better, wheel quality is so much better and my F1 wheel has many buttons so i like that also. BUT....thats not make you faster driver. Its take me about 3 weeks get same time laps what i drive with Logitec.

@laitsu7321

Жыл бұрын

@@ozgurkuzu2202 so....its not make you faster right a way, but wheel quality and feeling makes drive experiense much better....like a next level.

@ozgurkuzu2202

Жыл бұрын

@@laitsu7321 i understand very well thats what i was trying to ask and you explained very well my friend , u re saying its another dimension and realism.thank you again have a nice day.

@laitsu7321

Жыл бұрын

@@ozgurkuzu2202 have a nice day also👍

Man I really want to get the T150..

Budget cockpits: GT Omega ART, Apex, and Titan. Budget pedals: CSL LC, cheaper and better than the TLCM.

@DonnieMouse

2 жыл бұрын

rigmetal has better and cheaper cockpits

@kylebenitez8926

2 жыл бұрын

@@DonnieMouse Better? Definitely. Cheaper? Not really

the motorsport 4 sounds are nostalgiac

5:44 I think you meant to say that the T150 is smoother than the G29 (?)

I gotta get a new wheel my fanatec is on its way out think I might try an Ascher DD dunno if I wanna get the fanatec DD *( not the csl DD )* a bit overpriced

i only play f1 on ps4 and i'm currently using the t3pa pedals, should i buy the t-lcm? the change is worth ?

if your doing drifting just spend the money and get a t300 with the 3 pedals its worth it. logi wheels are ok at drifting till the motor starts getting weak but dont spend on it as retail on logi wheel is a ripoff and they can be found way less then retail. i also cant recommend the t248 as hybrid drive SUCKS down sides of belt and gear and is real slow.

Ngl as a logitech user for 3 years start wit a g920 for the bare minimum

I was hoping to get platform recommendations also? I don’t know what to get? I don’t have anything. PS4,5..Xbox..pc?

Ok so I’ve watched loads of reviews on several wheel and pedal set for ps5 which is confusing in itself. Settled on either t-gt 2 or t248. The problem is I’ve done some searches to see if anyone is having any issues and there seems to be a calibration issue with the t-gt 2 and the t248 has had pedal problems. I don’t know what to do as now I’m afraid if I get one or the other I’m going to have problems. Should I just stick with controller

I wouldn't recommend the T150. I have it and used it for two years. The FFB isn't bad but the problem is the rubber on the rim. After a few months the rubber starts getting sticky and soft. I wore a white pair of gloves with it after a while because the rubber starts rubbing off on your hands. My white gloves turned blue where I was holding the rim.

The forza motorsport 4 menu music

Suggesting AMS2 (still broken with janky physics and lack of "game" on top) and iRacing (propably more expensive than cocaine addiction) and not talking about RaceRoom is a no no for me.

what about drifting?

the song in the background is the forza motosport 4 menu soundtrack?????????

RaceRoom works with a budget PC.

Moza seem to be reaaally good but with VAT and shipping it‘ll be at least 150 bucks more If they don’t change that there’s no way that it will ever compete with the csl dd

@Morriitz

2 жыл бұрын

Just calculated what it would cost to buy the R9…. It’s exactly 900€ and shipping is about 200€ on top, so 1100€ at *least*

@travnasty5269

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. If they had some sort of bundle it would be fine. When you look at the base it seems like a good deal for what you're getting but then you see how much everything else they have is for things that are some what comparable to to the csl dd bundles and it gets insane. You can get a csl dd, gt3 v2 wheel, 8nm power supply, and the load cell peddles for like 300 dollars less and that against mozas all base model parts. I think the base is slightly better but i just can't see where that 300 is going of everything else I get is worse.

@thehumblepundit9790

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. They need a US distributor.

I just came from G29 to CSL DD. I'll say G29 is good for the price, but don't stay with G29 for too long. G29 is lack of some important FFB and torque is too low. It may cause player to grow some bad driving habits.

@iamzuesthisisthetruth8864

2 жыл бұрын

I feel the money would be very saved and put toward 1 purchase. Fantatec CSL DD base with GT3 wheel and Base CSL pedals. Upgrade of you wish. But I wasted 300$ on G29. Would never do that again!!!! Patience is Truly a virtue in big purchases

What wheel stand is that at 3:26 if i might ask?

@captainschpok2614

2 жыл бұрын

Wheel stand Pro 120€ on amazon

I'd strongly recommend anyone that wants to get anything that's more expensive than the logitech wheels to just get a csl dd. In my opinion buying a belt driven wheel for 4 to 500 or in some cases 700 dollars is a huge mistake considering you can have direct drive for the same amount or even cheaper in some cases.

@randomcallsign

2 жыл бұрын

This is fair

@claudioalegria1833

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure this is strictly correct, currently I can get the T300 (the version with the crappy pedals, since I'd be looking at discarding the pedals and get a separate LC set elsewhere) for 309€, looking at the recent history of the product sometimes it falls below 290, Black Friday it was 255€. Whereas the cheapest equivalent DD package I'm seeing (wheel+rim) is the Fanatec CSL DD 5nm, currently out of stock for 349€ + the BMW round rim at 139€ which makes a total of 488€. Plus shipping from the Fanatec store (I can get free shipping for the T300) Like, sure, I guess 488€ for that is probably better value for money than 290€ish for the T300, but that's still 200€ more. DDs have become cheaper but they're still not in the same price range than a belt upgrade to the Logitechs. Unless you meant not the T300 but the more expensive Thrustmasters which... yeah, why would anyone buy that over the CSL DD.

@chrisg.2962

2 жыл бұрын

@@claudioalegria1833 you get the csl dd wheel and thrustmaster load cell pedals probably come out of about 650-700ish

@travnasty5269

2 жыл бұрын

@@claudioalegria1833 when I say anything other than logitech I more just mean anything in that price range. The thrustmaster stuff would be fine in that price range as well. I just mean if you want to spend anything more than 300 to 350 USD (which would be like 350 to 400 roughly in euros roughly or probably a little less) I just think you're better off adding a max of an extra 100 bucks and just getting the base model csl dd. They have a bundle with wheel and pedals for 500. I person just can't see the point of paying 400 for a belt driven rig when you can spend an extra 100 and get a direct drive system. I do 100% understand though why the cheaper logitech and thrust master systems are purchased though. I think they are amazing but also think any belt driven wheel that's more expensive than they outside of the 700 dollar belt driven systems don't really feel any different in my opinion.

@claudioalegria1833

2 жыл бұрын

@@travnasty5269 their cheapest bundle is 700€ not 500

Pedals. Pedals. Pedals. Yep.

@kevin_m

2 жыл бұрын

Also a very nice tribute to SRP and Will Marsh.

Forza 4 OST >>>>>>

Oh wow forza 4 soundtrack

Dont buy a g923, buy a g29 also check reliability. I would buy g29 over t300 because it is more reliable

@Kowalski_J

2 жыл бұрын

had t300 for about 4 years with zero issues. before it also had g25 with optical encoder failure. yup g29/920/923 having holla sensor instead of optic. but in general - t300 and g29 more or less the same in terms of durability. people should chose from their personal likes and needs. somebody might wanna to upgrade his rig. and thrustmaster could be easily upgraded with new pedals or wheel-rim instead of logitech's. as for me... had t300 alcantara with t3pa, bought th8a addon and bought t-lcm when they were released. around 8 month ago i've migrated to dd, bought alpha mini and alien zadrotti pedals + keep th8a from old setup.

@hughxthexhand

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, I went through 3 Thrustmaster T300's in 2 years. They don't like heat at all (Im Australian) 2 of them where warranty replacements. A mate had his 1st T300 die in 6 months, with the warranty replacement he took to it with a hole Saw and installed more fans. It's been running flawlessly for 5 years, personally I don't think that the consumer should have to mod a product for it to be reliable. I went to using a fanatec DD1 podium and will never recommend or buy another Thrustmaster product again

@Kowalski_J

2 жыл бұрын

@@hughxthexhand hmm. my t300 where used at stock 75% ffb and the fan where working from time to time. so, mb i’m just used my wheel not as hard as others people do. btw dd1 often die while updating firmware, soo be sure that u r updating firmware only if it have some critical fixes.

@rabidclean

2 жыл бұрын

That's gonna vary depending on platform, the G29 is not compatible with XBox.

Guys I know you want it now.. But please take it from a 41 year old sim racer who has done it the worst way possible. Save the 300$ put towards CSL DD with GT3 Maclaren wheel and CSL bases pedals. Or even CSL Elite. Over G29 or anything Thrust master in the same range. Please young people Measure Twice cut once!!! And have fun no matter what.

Your hair made me blow my budget bb.

T150 pro is better then g92

G9220 isnt smoother than a t-150

wooowww well I've seen this exact video.. somebody's copying somebody word for word

@randomcallsign

Жыл бұрын

what video?

Summary of this video is if you are on a tight budget, don't do Sim racing

The AI is not great in Gran Turismo 7. Too slow for even an average driver. AC’s AI, otoh, will give you a decent race.

Your decision of budget given in the video might not work for everyone.

@randomcallsign

Жыл бұрын

Well. The wheels below that budget generally dont work after a few hours.

ps fan boy

Whatever you do, don't buy a Logitech g29, it's just money through away, save some more and buy something good