Hey everyone. Two quick notes: 1. After the range dropped drastically initially, it seemed to normalize after that and the predicted range matched the final 300km I had left. So think of it as an ICE car just learning how you’re driving in order to predict range, except also add the variable of temperature :) 2. We suggest at the end that the polestar 2 is on a dedicated EV platform. It is not. Like the i4, it is on a shared platform with Volvo ICE cars. Thanks!

@cuteshadow

2 жыл бұрын

And you forgot that horrid front end... its haunting.

@yasithj4160

2 жыл бұрын

It's JAMES !

@CED99

2 жыл бұрын

Should be a pinned comment. Thanks James

@cwx8

2 жыл бұрын

@@cuteshadow the weird thing is it works better here than on the m3

@pc0736

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for clarifying the polestar 2 being an ICE platform. would you say the Polestar is done better in its conversion?

I love how BMW said they needed that ugly ass grill for “better airflow and cooling” and then they slapped it on an electric car 🤦‍♂️

@Sophie-and-Ken

2 жыл бұрын

3/4s of the grill is blocked and doesn’t work. Doubling down on ugly.

@TyinAlaska

2 жыл бұрын

Grills *do* cook things afterall.

@yasithj4160

2 жыл бұрын

*Cooling ...It's all good bro

@Sophie-and-Ken

2 жыл бұрын

@@yasithj4160 nobody likes the grammar gestapo. You knew what he meant.

@cardiacresp

2 жыл бұрын

@@yasithj4160 my thumb slipped lol

My goodness.... I remember when your introduction for one of the episodes was when you were thanking your subscribers for reaching 1 million in total. Doesn't seem like it was that long ago but you guys are inching closer to 2 million every week. Been a subscriber since way back when Thomas tested the Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk (707 dragon power) and this entire channel never disappoints in content. Thumbs way up!!

@sa1f43

2 жыл бұрын

Holy shit I'm just now seeing how fast their channel grew up. Honestly they deserve it, their content is always top-notch.

@rico2raww

2 жыл бұрын

Same I watched back before James existed

I test drove this car, and you're missing the part where it's HOLY CRAP SO FAST! I felt a mild headrush when I stomped on it with that insane power and instant torque. Freaking rocket ship. :)

@opwanncanopie

Жыл бұрын

They're spoiled. And you're right, it's super fast.... and the sound. Everything is very cool.

@madpistol

11 ай бұрын

I went and test drove one of these a few days ago, and "freaking rocket ship" sums it up nicely. These things are bonkers from a dig. What's great is that when it's traveling at high speeds, it still feels as fast (or faster) as my B58 powered M440i GC. What's more, it's just as comfortable and quiet too. It's like my M440i GC... just WAYYYYYYYYYYYY more power.

@mrcuboid

Ай бұрын

@@madpistolwhat is “GC”

@madpistol

Ай бұрын

@@mrcuboid Gran Coupe

@fatbikedad384

Ай бұрын

@@madpistolhappy owner of a 440gc myself… love it but thinking to go electric i4…. I will not miss it?

Full respect to this channel for telling it like it is. “Come on BMW, get with the program!”

@harrison4ever125

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I think the problem we're seeing is that many manufacturers have not anticipated the full switch to EV vehicles globally as well as some others. Making a great EV is a totally different order than making a great gasoline powered vehicle. It's like asking Pepsi or Coca-Cola to hit the brakes on soda and start making the world's finest coffee. It is going to take most manufacturers many years to get these right. AND, what we perceive as normal and right will also have to change. An EV cannot feel just like a gasoline powered vehicle because it simply isn't the same at all.

@Sophie-and-Ken

2 жыл бұрын

BMW has lost its direction in recent years. From its design head being poached and BMW trying to appeal to the Chinese market they don’t make cars like they used to. When you say fuckit, steering is fine, use the petrol grill and they block 3/4 of it you have to wonder what other sacrifices or stupid decisions did they make for this car. I can see depreciation hitting this car like a landslide.

@the_batmobile0.4

2 жыл бұрын

Like BMW would actually listen. Lol

@EbNorth

2 жыл бұрын

I drove the car. It's great! These kids don't know shit.

@bazs7669

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sophie-and-Ken pp

Test drove this thing. Things I noticed… from an esthusiast pov 1) squirrelly if you mash the pedal from a start 2) reallll quick and still pushes hard even up to 60s 3) handles well in highway mild manuevering, not a canyon carver. Normal consumer pov: 1) fit and finish is great even on base model, probably much more posh with upping to leather 2) daily driving dynamics just like a normal gas car if you set it that way prefer it 3) range is average but enough for a commuter Overall I liked it and my wife liked it for a normal daily and which is why we’re considering it. The price is decent compared to audi (my opinion). If you’re looking for a ride that is premium, ave cost, good range and just a regular commuter that doesn’t need all the bells and whistles, this is a good consideration.

@universalg_

2 жыл бұрын

This is a really good EV for the people who want that in the market. I'ma still take my inline 6 turbo though 😆

@robertperillo8738

2 жыл бұрын

Why would you consider this instead of the regular 440i though? Just curious. The 440i is the better car and is significantly cheaper.

@Sebastianvalen

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertperillo8738 no gas and the tax credit doesn’t hurt

@koenbraggaar4380

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertperillo8738 depends on where your living. Here in the Netherlands the m50 (73k) is 15k cheaper than a m440i

@Trades46

2 жыл бұрын

This. The i4 is heavy since BMW took an existing 4 series GC and added the big battery pack but took nothing out. The reason the Model 3 is so light is because...have you sat in one? I have seen economy cars with more materials and build quality than anything in that Tesla. Yet, the Model 3 SR+ is $59k, or identical price to the i4 eDrive40. I know which one I rather pay for.

As a fork lift driver of 13 years, having driven just as many electric lifts as LP gas lifts, I will tell you that one pedal driving becomes quite comfortable. And it won't ruin your regular driving habits as you might think. You just get used to driving 2 different types of vehicles. Much like driving an auto vs manual transmission vehicle.

@deansmits006

2 жыл бұрын

I got a Nissan Leaf 18 months ago, and it's B mode gives strong Regen, though not 1 pedal driving. Like lightly breaking, is almost like driving with a rheostat. After adjusting to it, I love it. Easier to drive smoothly in regular traffic

@alwaysplaythegame

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and no. One pedal driving is less efficient and likely responsible for a lot of the range loss James experienced. There are no clear studies on impact to driver behavior (I would 'guess' any would be negligible). I have an ev and prefer normal pedal driving personally l, but I never committed to 1 and I'm still torn.

@harrison4ever125

2 жыл бұрын

@@alwaysplaythegame well it's a luxury, and luxuries come at a price. Just like air conditioning really.

@Chris21709

2 жыл бұрын

@@alwaysplaythegame One-pedal is ALWAYS more efficient when done correctly. If you just pull your foot off the pedal, then you're not driving one-pedal. Takes a couple of weeks to learn (change 2-pedal habits).

@alwaysplaythegame

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chris21709 I'm just repeating what the car companies claim. A few have said that it's more inefficient and I'm sure that's on average and not if you trained yourself to not take your foot off (in which case it should be the same).

17:00 They chose blue, because electrons are blue. If you dissolve sodium metal in liquid ammonia, you get a deep blue solution. That colour directly comes from free electrons in solution (not the Na+ or the ammonia). So you could argue, blue is the colour of electricity.

@win-64

2 жыл бұрын

S C I E N C E

@codybrown5309

2 жыл бұрын

I want to call bullshit but I don't know enough about science to dispute you. So I'll just call bullshit anyways with the standard "NUH-UH PROVE IT, WHERES YOUR SOURCE" *foams at the mouth in nerd*

@bd1487

2 жыл бұрын

The colour is actually defined by the frequency of rafiation 're-emmited' ... so your analogy is confined to the potential energy balance of the solution. I don't think colour should be associated with electrons. Its fun to do that tho!

@codybrown5309

2 жыл бұрын

@@bd1487 Neat. *satisfied in asian*

@bd1487

2 жыл бұрын

@@codybrown5309 What do you mean?? ... didn't get ya

The intro was hilarious even i don't understand English 🤣

@mrwagner01

2 жыл бұрын

That’s ok, neither does Thomas I guess 😂

@neutron8764

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrwagner01 lol

@wheelspinmanager

2 жыл бұрын

Neither i 😂

@lollypoofy

2 жыл бұрын

Can someone explain it though please 😅

@neutron8764

2 жыл бұрын

@@lollypoofy substitute i4 with “eye for”

Man I’d just wish the front end of these new BMWs would look good

@2350J

2 жыл бұрын

i actually like these 🥲

@LLG47

2 жыл бұрын

I know, it's such an eyesore. I seriously think it's the worst looking bmw ever, and it's going to age so poorly.

@madkabal

2 жыл бұрын

Butt Print BMW

@Sophie-and-Ken

2 жыл бұрын

The fact they put their fugly grill on a EV, no words. I would never buy this shit.

@aadi8568

2 жыл бұрын

@@2350J I like the M4 but standard 4 series and i4 just looks weird and out of place - with the m4 at least the rest of the body is aggressive and matches the grille

Man I keep trying to like the new front end of BMWs, I really do, and so many people have been like, "It's grown on me." Unfortunately it has not grown on me. I still think it looks gross. But another great video as usual guys! LOVE the straightforward honesty about this car, we NEED more of that! Holy shit keep up the good work!

@_baller

2 жыл бұрын

Stop trying, it's ugly

@andrewduong2740

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of people said the same things about Lexus, but I doubt the feedback on BMW's style will age as well. Lexus and Audi's grilles work because they fit as part of a whole. BMW's look vestigial.

@_baller

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewduong2740 Audi and Lexus was "ok", they are large grills, that's all, BMW is an UGLY grill, the fact that its large makes no difference

@itcangetbetter

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewduong2740 Lexus grilles absolutely don't work on anything but the LC and somewhat the IS. That's why people still comment on how it ruins the front of every car they continue to curse it with. It's no better than BMWs grille. Both terrible design choices that they stubbornly refuse to step away from

@Johnnygga

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of people like the front now. When you look at “older” BMWs now, they look beautiful but “dated” if that makes sense.

Coming from a model 3 performance owner and now too this. The i4 is night and day higher qaulity. For one the noise isolation is superb. My model 3 use to pick up wind like i was outside on the highway. Just touching the steering wheel and the interior u feel the higher grade qaulity instantly. Also actually having a HUD integrated into the screen and gauge clusters add to the vibe. Model 3 really cost cuts alot in order to make their cars cheaper. Having to look to the right at a single ipad for my MPH is insane for 2024. Also the speed difference is noticable on the highway. The i4 just keeps pulling and pulling. The carwow video of the i4 vs m3p drage race is what first got me super interested in the i4. Its truly breathe taking and the sounds are dope. Handling wise is perfect for day to day traffic. Ion notice any problems.

Big points for it not being an SUV and ALSO being an EV.

So many years have passed and yet I still at least smirk when James gets hits in the head. Love you guys!

I'm desperately waiting on the ix50 review from you guys. I just love your reviews, atleast better than straight pipes, they same to be ranting this days about charging stations plus hated their review of the ix50. Keep up the good work and please review the bmw ix50

Thomas seemed so hurt when he said the Mach e has better steering 😪

Wow, "The Ford Mach-E is better at something than this BMW i4!" I hoped they felt that in Munich! Great video, still hate the grill!

@Fc-cb3tn

2 жыл бұрын

I really doubt BMW gives a toss about the steering feel on their cars anymore😂

@jkeijzer1418

2 жыл бұрын

But also, the mach-e is worse at everything else

@BjrnRuthberg

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's the most hurtful thing anyone has said to anyone in the history of dissing cars.

Great review! Fully agree on the steering. There is no reason more engaging handling can’t be engineered. I actually really like the sound too. 👍

@StarryTemplar

Жыл бұрын

Great sound but sharing platform with Gas car just non sense and made i4 M50 with tiny Rear leg room and headroom... no sun curtain and Massage seats just NOT LuXURY!

@blocksource4192

Жыл бұрын

@@StarryTemplar why would there be massage seats and sun curtains in a $65k daily driver EV... The $80k iX has those things you want (I know because I have one), but it's more expensive.

Definitly, I'm in love with your fair & square remarks. It's tough, but real. Guys, thanks to your show.

The critical points may be fair but I just want to note that none of them have anything to do with it being on a shared platform. And about the pricing: if you compare it with the etron GT or a Taycan this does pretty much the same but costs way less. Anyway this is pretty much the first EV that I could actually imagine owning.

First of all congratulations to you guys bcoz u guys have almost 2 million subscribers now I still remember those days when u just started ur chennel u make us I mean all canadian proud with ur dedication hard work enthusiasm and uniqueness keep it up mates love and greetings from mississauga Canada

@ThrottleHouse

2 жыл бұрын

🤘

Well, at roughly $5k per M badge, it’s a certifiable bargain!

Love you guys!!! Best part of the Hagerty video

You guys are great, I appreciate the honesty. Been a BMW fanboy for many years and feel they've lost their way. If you're at the I want a comfy DD spot and just that it's probably ok but there's also other brands that can do it well. If you want the sports DNA you used to buy BMW. To a certain degree you still do, but this feels somewhat disappointing and the lack of LSD is a huge oversight IMO.

Idk why, your videos feels so relaxing and the intelligent comedy. Never disappoints 😂😂 Love from India guys🫀🫀🫀 Keep up the good work🔥🔥🔥🔥

Thomas literally no one complained about the iDrive 7. However, everyone complains about the new-gen and says it is too complicated, so I thought you would shred it to pieces. But no, you actually like it.

i have been looking for the guyd review of this car. Good job 👍

That intro was hilarious! It actually had me laughing to tears. Great channel!! Thanks for the review (and the laughs)!

I knew the initial joke was coming (what's an i4?) and I still laughed :). You make these videos fun to watch.. Thanks

Did you guys see the new 7series leak? When you think BMW can't make those grills any bigger........ BMW is like : THINK AGAIN!

@bavariancarenthusiast2722

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but they are functional - for the new gen BMW´s those will be sensor shields :)

@preyhunter4179

2 жыл бұрын

It looks absolutely horrific

@taladon6420

2 жыл бұрын

I think the 3 and 5 actually look really good but the other ones are weird, I agree

@JTM610

2 жыл бұрын

Can you send the link? Could not find anything legit on Google

@tobias_k01

2 жыл бұрын

Dude what leak? It hasn't been leaked so far, every supposed "leak" has been called out as a fake.

Niice intro guys...also loved u2 in the hagerty vid back seat lucid drivers!!

Saw one of these on the road today and didn’t realize it wasn’t an M4 until I saw it didn’t have exhaust pipes. He accelerated really hard past my Model 3 Performance while I was just cruising. Amazing looking car.

@user-my4xu4gf1z

4 ай бұрын

Yup just traded my m3p for one since i got a raise at my job and could afford one. Its really night and day once u get inside it brotha. Suggest u test drive one. Its also faster past 60mp it just keeps pulling unlike the tesla which kinda gives out. Having no HUD or gauge clusters is a really cheap way to cut cost from tesla side. Not having a HUD is insane for a supposibly tech car. U can feel the quality difference of the steering wheel and the interior. I was in the same boat as u when i saw one looks alot more aggresive and sleek then the model 3 and that new highland looks so ugly. Like a chinese fish

Greetings from Germany and Good Sunday my friend

Honestly I‘m so disappointed of the i4. It has no benefits in terms of interior space compared to conventional cars. It‘s just a really heavy and not good looking car where you and your stuff barely fit inside. For real I was so disappointed when I was sitting in one for the first time. It feels smaller than a VW Golf or BMW 1 series and the sunroof is a joke. For me the most overlooked and underrated BMW is the i3. Yes its looks are controversial. But it looks fresh even after so many years and it drives great. Especially on tight country roads it‘s great fun, very nimble with enough power to accelerate out of sharp turns. And it‘s light. The low weight and the thin tires make you feel fast without going overly fast and it has a super nice steering feel. I think it‘s all about driving pleasure and that comes with feel and the ability to throw your car around corners without being scared to end up at the next tree.

@cwx8

2 жыл бұрын

While I agree mostly on your points, I'd say one of is strengths is that it doesn't look weird. It looks like a car. It's also afforded great chassis balance unlike its competitors. BMW is leveraging it's experience here in the geometry of a 3/4. Its certainly nowhere near as small as a golf or 1er so that's a big exaggeration.

@realMysta

2 жыл бұрын

I dunno I at least love that it’s a hatch. In a world where everyone is making everything into an suv at least give cars a hatch/sportback

@deansmits006

2 жыл бұрын

Right, which is the downside to using an ICE platform. The upside is lower price. Once they can mass produce the EV platform (based on ix?), you get the added benefits of more space, less weight, and better range. And better pricing

I'm just glad that the best car reviewers are local!

Once again, beautifully well done 👏

The incredible intro and Thomas is awesome his voice is so soothing omg 😯 awesomene job guys love you

Thanks for the sounds when you show us something not in video! Makes it much easier to watch. It's always annoying when movies give a written location on screen for example but don't indicate they're telling you information and you miss it.

Seeing one of these this early just makes the morning coffee taste *better*, ya know?

The intro... pure gold!

Thank you for NOT selling out. Also, thank you for being proper BMW fanboys; you are extra upset when your team messes up rather than overly sympathetic.

Great video. It’s unfortunate that BMW hasn’t yet been able to turn their magic on fully on EVs, but I suspect they will. As you pointed out, it’s no easy feat.

@squash7751

2 жыл бұрын

Wait wait wait... you actually like this hunk of crap electric car?!

@paulklp8262

2 жыл бұрын

@@squash7751 Yes, cause we're car fans. Not petrol sniffers.

@squash7751

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulklp8262 you're not a car fan. You're another piece of the general demographic that thinks, " ooooo electric go woosh and accelerate fast" that's not driving. That's riding the car.

@squash7751

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulklp8262 electric mx-5?! Car fan?! AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

@paulklp8262

2 жыл бұрын

@@squash7751 You'll never evolve lmao

Cool Runnings references are always appreciated

Thank you throttle house for this great video. Really love your vids been watching for almost 3 years now.

I agree with Thomas. After working on bmws for over a decade I have to say I'm harder on BMW's because the driving dynamics are just not the same feel. I do know from personal experience that BMW do make a high quality product and the average person who hasn't driven older BMW's would probably be very impressed with any new BMW.

@aussie2uGA

2 жыл бұрын

I had the e39 M5, the e93 M3, and now bought a model 3. I’m loving the Model 3! If BMW can get the performance and steering feel, they’ll have a real contender.

@asylum9868

2 жыл бұрын

it is ugly

@pac2599

2 жыл бұрын

@@vickydada5595 Trust me the parts are better quality. I work on American and Japanese cars mainly now for the last 2 years after working on German cars for over a decade. German cars get a bad rap because they are literally 10 years ahead in technology. The front runners always take a beating first.

@krane15

2 жыл бұрын

One word: center-of-gravity. In theory, it should be even more agile, but there's a lot more to it than just that.

@pac2599

2 жыл бұрын

@@vickydada5595 I do if you like what you drive. A extended warranty is always a good idea as long as it's a reputable company. My daily is a 2010 bmw 535i. I love it but I know it will cost more to maintain then a honda or ford.

BMW's nomenclature is really going out of hand

@darienlux4735

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is this car should be an i3 but they used that already.

Congrats on almost hitting 2 mil subscribers. I've been a loyal subscriber since before "and I'm James"

Literally haven’t watched the video and I already know it’s a banger throttle house so clutch

Saw y’all cameo on hagerty. Looks like you guys are getting pretty popular. Love this channel nice job 👍

The intro was hilarious 🤣🤣🤣

Some comments: 1. There's a 3 series BEV starting production this month, but it's china-only (and based on the long-wheel base G28 variant that is china-only as well) 2. The floor (and trunk) are a bit higher than the corresponding 4er GC 3. At least part of the battery is in the transmission tunnel, so it is not completely useless

LOL! Thomas' reaction to the joke was priceless. Talk about deep cuts. Take my thumbs up.

While BMW's entry in this segment is decent, I'm mostly glad because it defines the boundaries for the mid-size EV sport sedan: Model 3 Performance, Polestar 2, and now this. Hopefully Audi can have a direct rival to this and also Genesis, which could likely undercut the price of this by a few grand and have a similar if not maybe better experience and spec sheet.

@FlyingArtz.

2 жыл бұрын

If Genisis can pull it off im in there!!

@foam27

Жыл бұрын

This is a gas car retrofitted to EV. Model 3 and Polestar 2 are ground up EV.

@BogeyTheBear

2 ай бұрын

It's a gas car that's been tried and true, then refitted with an electric drivetrain. Any faults in a dedicated EV platform have to be worked out via the trials and tribulations of EV owners. BMW had this stuff figured out through their piston-driven models.

So if the bucktooth grill was "necessary" for the M3 & M4 for increased air intake, what's their excuse for the i4?

@simonbelmont5801

2 жыл бұрын

It looks like a butt.

@uniquelypositive

2 жыл бұрын

@C L lol. They can still share the platform and not the bumper!

@mrpogi23

2 жыл бұрын

bucktooth? I always see it as a "mustache" from that famous guy... in Germany...

A Cool Runnings reference?! My fave movie from childhood. "Hey James, ya dead?" "Yeah, man." BTW, loved the cameo y'all made with Cammisa, great to see this channel blowing up! Well deserved.

I love the background music. Befitting of the car in question

I feel you soo much. I've never been more disappointed after an Test Ride. The i4 M50 is a nice comfy car with enough power, but it's not an M Car. It was supposed to replace my Tesla Model 3 performance, but unfortunately the BMW is not nearly as sporty as the Tesla and is also much less fun.

@habibi750

2 жыл бұрын

I was also going to buy this car but ended up buying a Model 3 Performance.

Seems like we're still 6 or more years away to M2CS kind of fun in EV form.

This channel is my favorite car channel by far

2018 BMW 440xi with the Power and Sound Kit is the last purist built non M BMW. B58 motor, proper manual and correct spec. I love that car.

BMW is by far my favorite brand, I’ve dreamed of owning an M3/4 since NFS Most Wanted. I come to throttle house and hold their opinions and reviews to a high standard, and this one has me a little bit upset with the Bavarians

@ashrafhouzail1876

2 жыл бұрын

Same.. the NFS m3 is an iconic car

Great vid as ever. The steering on the eDrive40 is much better as it’s RWD only, in fact I think it’s a much better car overall. It’s lighter, still crazy quick, handles better and you get an extra 50 miles range.

@Trades46

2 жыл бұрын

People have said the eDrive40 is better since the front axle isn't burdened by an electric motor and as you said, lower curb weight.

Жыл бұрын

*people who can’t afford the m50.

@timoldland

Жыл бұрын

@ Read what I wrote, arrogant prick. The eDrive40 is the better car. I’ve driven both extensively and irrespective of cost I’d never choose the M50.

Жыл бұрын

​@@timoldland Gotta take all the parameters of the equation into consideration: Your edrive40 must be SO MUCH FUN in the snow. My context in Canada is different than yours.

Жыл бұрын

@@timoldland also, I am doing 90% highway. Not racetrack. Why should I care if the edrive40 behaves « slightly » better in turns… you will remember that when an m50 leaves you in the dust on the highway…

Your intros are the best!

Sooooo many M's and numerals! AAAAAGGGGGG! Great videos!

No hate on the straight pipes, but I'm so happy you guys passed them in subscribers. The quality of your videos is sooooooooooooo good, you guys deserve all of the success you've earned

@KZ-se4ik

2 жыл бұрын

Straight pipes are several levels below these guys. Wanted to reach through the screen and choke them on the several occasions I tried to watch a complete video of theirs.

The Polestar 2 is _not_ a dedicated EV btw. It's on the same platform as for example the Hybrid Volvo XC40. It too does have a transmission tunnel, a too wide and still not spacious center console, a tiny frunk and significantly too much weight compared to for example a Model 3. Just a FYI.

Saw a 4 series yesterday...and in person it actually looks good

You got my like just with the intro

You guys are honest and thorough, and have a great sense of humor. What I want is (if possible) a scale or metric to compare EV cars in addition to range and weight. Sorta where in scale this cars falls to leading models in EV. It would be your own metric but it would be a good starting point for me at least. Sorry.👏👏

@harrison4ever125

2 жыл бұрын

They kind of do that in their own way though. They periodically compare it to other EV models throughout the video and they have been reviewing a LOT of EV models as of late. It's not really fair to have a top to bottom "good, better, best" scale though because in many cases they're reviewing vehicles that are completely different and unique in their own ways. But more importantly, there is such a wide price range that it complicates things. You cannot compare a Lucid Air to a Mustang Mach E for example. Or a BMW i4 to the new GMC Hummer. It just doesn't work.

@EbNorth

2 жыл бұрын

I drove the car. It's really good. They are making jokes for nothing.

@Sophie-and-Ken

2 жыл бұрын

@@EbNorth you work for BMW, you’re copying this into every post?

@beest_

2 жыл бұрын

@@harrison4ever125 I understand what you're saying and I do see that they are comparing EV models in their own way. In fact this is precisely why I asked for a Throttle House metric system (THMS). Each category can have a weighted point, so that it linearizes the THMS scale. All important points such as price, handling, interior , build quality, range will have a weighted range. So that we can compare a $50K model to a $100K model. This sort of systems are used everywhere, for most products. I know and appreciate their work, all in suggesting is putting a number to their final thoughts.

@EbNorth

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sophie-and-Ken No. I repeated it like twice. Because it's true. The cars are great. Drive one.

I've driven this car and i fell in love. I always love the sound of a good exhaust and intake but holy crap this m50 is really something. Compared to the IC sport cars, this beats anything in the same price range. Highly recommend.

@amirdhillon1

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for that ! Ordered one on behalf of my mother

@foam27

Жыл бұрын

Don't drive a model 3 performance, it's another level.

@user-my4xu4gf1z

4 ай бұрын

​@@foam27no its not the i4 is faster. Coming from a m3p owner. Past 60mph the i4 keeps pulling like it did when i first hit the gas. The m3p dies down. The i4 utilizes its power band better. Just watch the carwow drag race. I4 vs model 3 performance

As always good content! But our FAVORITE is the track reviews. I'm looking forward to when you guys get your hands on the c8 z06 and the nissan 400z. Should be awesome

Took me 20 seconds to hit like! You guys are awesome!

But Jason Cammisa just told me a Lucid Air at 5000lb still DOES have some decent feel and handling ability. So it IS possible despite the weight. You know that, you were there! :-)

@connorscanlon6289

2 жыл бұрын

They’re different size classes, so journalists expect less to begin with (the Lucid is much larger than the i4 and therefore expected to handle worse), and the Lucid is two to three times the price, so there is a greater engineering and parts budget for suspension design and componentry, which can start to overcome weight with tricks like adaptive air suspension, reduction of unsprung mass with aluminum, and the inclusion of harder to implement elements like double wishbone suspension. The same goes for the Porsche Taycan. BMW is trying to meet a price point here, and is therefore constrained for the time being until a dedicated BMW platform can be developed for EVs, and until economies of scale can start to bring the price of engineering and components down to better design and refine future models. It’s unfortunate that they couldn’t achieve these things out of the gate, but BMW needed a serious and relatively affordable EV on the market in a short period of time to stand out among their competitors (which they have, Mercedes-Benz and Audi have yet to release a more affordable EV model), and this results in what we have today. Hopefully these handling issues will be addressed and resolved soon!

@smokeymotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

@@connorscanlon6289 I don't disagree with any of your points, but the video merely stated that at 5,000lb it's not possible to have good steering. The vehicle class etc wasn't a proviso mentioned.

@laxlife5050

2 жыл бұрын

@@smokeymotorsport well a 7series and a s series weigh about that much. They are huge also in size and so is the lucid air. Have you seen the space in the back? It also has all types of luxury stuff that weigh also. Comparing a 3series to a 7series is probably not right so why are you doing the same with another brand? I'm sure people would rate a 330i to feel more responsive than a 7 series. Lucid air is comparable with a eqs or a Tesla model S plaid. Not a 30k car that car been slapped with an electric motor and a few batteries.

@smokeymotorsport

2 жыл бұрын

@@laxlife5050 You've sort of made my point for me. A huge saloon can still have a bit of life about it, while a 3/4 series apparently cannot. As for the price, I understand your point, but this is no longer a 30k car this high in the range, so it can't feel like one

@laxlife5050

2 жыл бұрын

@@smokeymotorsport I'm sure it can, but designing a cars structure from ground up to stand 5000lbs as standard is different then slapping 1500lbs on a car that isn't made originally to take that much weight. Probably materials are different also in heavier cars.

Thanks for keeping it real, as always. This car falls short.

I've test driven a few and my mind was blown. I sense there's a bit of disconnect between what these guys think about a car and what the general public feels. Most people's minds would be blown driving this car. It's a spaceship.

Interesting to read all comments. Guys have a lot followers, and make excellent reviews. Don’t know, what Throttle House expected from M50, a nimble performance car, like M4? How would that be possible with this weight. This one is a grand tourer with effortless power and great comfort. I highly recommend you to test drive M50. I’ve been a lucky owner for almost a month, and enjoying every minute.

As someone that's still owns 2 BMW,s, one of them a highly modified M335i I am sad to admit the closest thing to an electric BMW (Even an M3) you can buy is Tesla Model 3 performance... Felt like a E90 with electric motors TBH, steering and turn in were as sharp or even more so than in my car.. And you don't have to deal with $5K(usd) is repairs EVERY year.

@camilobenzo

2 жыл бұрын

@Stefan I specifically said "highly modified", to your point my wife's BMW’s (2013 & 2019 X3) have been bullet proof on high mileage pre-Covid daily commute of 90 miles.

@connorscanlon6289

2 жыл бұрын

Having test driven both an i4M50 and a Model 3 Performance, the BMW is better handling in almost every regard. The Tesla just has an artificially and unbalanced sharp turn-in to “seem sporty” without actually being sporty. Tesla isn’t competitive in this regard. The problem with the BMW isn’t how it compares to its electric rivals, it’s how it falls short to its ICE BMW counterparts.

They never fail in being hilarious! "It's like getting a piercing but piercing your mouth shut" 😂😂😂

Great video as usual! By the way, Thomas pronounced "Açaí" perfectly. Cheers from a fellow brazilian viewer :)

Class as usual Thank you from everyone here in the UK 🇬🇧 🥳

Even though the Polestar 2 doesn't come from a dedicated platform, I do still feel like it has more of the driving dynamics that you were hoping for from this car.

@jkeijzer1418

2 жыл бұрын

Nope. The polestar does not have any steering feel at all, like all volvo's and the traction control cant be turned off completely. The only thing it has going for it is ohlins dampers and super rigid chassis.

@tubaterry

2 жыл бұрын

@@jkeijzer1418 I mean I own one and track it just fine so let's not be so absolutist maybe

@AlbertHu93

2 жыл бұрын

@@jkeijzer1418 personally I test drove both back to back. Besides the slightly lazier gas paddle feel to the Polestar 2, the body control of that car is actually quite nice. And with i4 M50 commencing a much higher price tag, it doesn’t feel particularly better.. Worst, it felt almost generic. As a current M5/M2 owner, it’s disappointing

Despite this, I'm leaning toward either the i4 or Polestar 2 for my next car. Having 3 PHEV in the family I have grown to enjoy the driving feel of EVs and its low running costs. I'm also very unimpressed with Tesla offerings and do not like SUVs, so the choice really boils down these two.

@mrsneakyburt6305

2 жыл бұрын

Test drove the i4 m50 the other day and it was a blast, build quality wise its an amazing car

@thedatboi_

Жыл бұрын

There is also the taycan from porsche and the audi e-tron gt buf those are expensive

Good review. You all are getting better and better at reviewing cars.

Cool runnings jokes are always appreciated

The opening skit matches this car incredibly well: both are a bad joke.

Never been this early

Totally agreed. I did test drive on i4, it’s a great EV. But the lagging electrical accelerator is weird.

@madpistol

11 ай бұрын

in Sport Boost, zero lag. Power is instant, and it punches you in the back of the head.

Guys, you should drive the regular BMW i4 edrive 40. I'd love to know what you think about that version. Always good to watch you.

Donut media Collab video??

@liamfobert4055

2 жыл бұрын

YESSSSSS

@liamfobert4055

2 жыл бұрын

Or a collab with the straight pipes

I thought they were going to make it all the way through the review without mentioning the Tesla Model 3 Performance. It definitely compares, and the supercharging network helps to alleviate the range anxiety. 🤷‍♂️

The music selection in the video is top beautiful

good review guys

Another great review guys... Thanks. I think you touched on one of the most problematic issues with a non-dedicated platform conversion... It will always be compared to the donor car. And this donor car was optimized to be a good ICE model, not a good EV. No frunk, a transmission tunnel, I assume major compromises to battery and electric motor location, etc. It feels to me like BMW didn't take EV thing seriously and are now scrambling to catch up.

The BMW I4 M50 weights more than a Model S Plaid by 250lbs lol.

@thiccboi1726

2 жыл бұрын

That’s because it’s not built as an ev from the ground up, dedicated ev cars are usually lighter than ev cars built off a combustion engined car chassis

@andrewhorte2010

2 жыл бұрын

It also costs less than half

As a pure //M enthusiast (meaning non-turbo //M gens) and owner, This vehicle upsets me! It’s pure marketing. Nothing more, nothing less. The //M brand has been diminished long ago.

I drove the suv yesterday its dope.......don't like the grill but eh it's nice the interface/cockpit nice

Definitely wait for the EV6 GT. Nearly 600 hp for only $60,000 and built from ground up as an EV.

@alwaysplaythegame

2 жыл бұрын

Agree that it's a good competitor, but that's pretty much in line with this car. About 40 fewer ponies and 0.2s slower to 60 while costing around $5k more. But you have a BMW instead of a Kia which will win a lot of people over. It's not like the Kia is $50k and clearly a much better buy on specs alone.

@kingsterre

2 жыл бұрын

Congrats - you’ll get the very important ”get dirty hands” frunk and a 15 cm lower part for the 3rd passenger (no tunnel) that never sits there. EV6 look cool and has nice interior design. The rear part looks sad. Don’t expect the quality of the BMW. The screens on EV6 are sadly outdated from start. But if is important to have a pure EV for the sake of it - go ahead!

@alexanderdagreat5026

2 жыл бұрын

GT Line AWD is 59K, good luck getting a GT for 60K.

@laxlife5050

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingsterre so is the software on the I4. Bad software architecture can't be fixed with bug fixes. Take the Nokia Symbian OS vs iOS. I think that's the biggest problem almost all legacy makers have. The systems are not made for an ev nor the future. They are just an old software updated for the date the car is sold and after not given a .... About. The throttle response is crazy slow. It's weird that they couldn't get it right.

@kingsterre

2 жыл бұрын

@@laxlife5050 I have driven the M50 twice and love the handling and pedals. Nothing bothered me. The software is miles better previous cars I’ve had and Apple carplay works fine with Maps and Spotify. I buy a car - not a computer.

That grille is just a complete failure. It's gonna grow on people? Yeah bullshit. That grille is still not growing on me and it's just hideous as fuck. It actually put me off from buying the new 4 Series and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

@codybrown5309

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Grow on people like a bad rash. Or a fungus. Or the BLM movement. Or womens rights. You get the idea.

@Sophie-and-Ken

2 жыл бұрын

The fact they put that gill on an EV and blocked 3/4 of it just tells me they don’t give a shit any more. Same with the steering, they just don’t care. When you’re that bull headed to make a car like this when they whole world wants an old school BMW then your just making shit to sell because it has an M badge. I would stay away from this car, deprecation is going to hit it like a landslide.

Literally just configured mine and am actually considering buying it. Then I go to see if anyone reviewed it and see your new video lol. Love you guys so much. Keep up the good work.

Nice starting 😂❤👍