Suddenly R400k is considered well priced, what a time to be alive

@CandyGirl44

2 жыл бұрын

My flat cost 120k in 2002. This is just madness! We bought ourselves 11 year old cars with low kays, and expect them to last us the next 10, my last car was sold with 300 000 kays, at 20 years old, and went on for another good few years with the new owner.

@angrysocialjusticewarrior

2 жыл бұрын

R400k for a car that is almost on par with modern entry level luxury sedan. It also comes with a massive 300nm of torque. Does a Polo GTI have anywhere near that kind of torque? Now compare that to the R200k corolla that you could buy in 2002 and you will see that the R400k version is not expensive for nothing.

@user-uo2mv6pn3y

4 ай бұрын

😅

Realistically. Probably my next car. And the replacement for the "just get a polo" answer I give any family member looking for a new car

@angrysocialjusticewarrior

2 жыл бұрын

And considering that Polo drivers are getting a worse driving reputation than even taxi drivers, its best to just get the corolla if you want to avoid looks of disdain and disgust from other drivers on the road.

Ciro when are you guys going to start giving away cars? 😂

@mpholoseponya1680

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂 content I signed up for 🔥🔥🔥

@rivoningo

2 жыл бұрын

Hebana 🤣🤣🤣

@JD-yz5gg

2 жыл бұрын

I vote Ciro gives away his MX-5

@tman1591

2 жыл бұрын

@@JD-yz5gg 😂

We've got 4 sedans at home My Dad despises SUVs like me. And this was lovely to watch. Brilliant car this

@repentfromsinfollowjesus2953

13 сағат бұрын

Fair & understandable

The move from sedan to SUVs in SA is robbing us of some nice cars. Most brands reluctant to bring sedans in SA. Jetta, Arteon, etc.

@fridgemagnet9831

2 жыл бұрын

It's a shame hey, if you want lower petrol consumption an suv doesn't make sense. And these ones that are front wheel drives don't get me started.

@fostermaluleke9371

Жыл бұрын

I still want jetta even today, the fuel consumption is fair

I considered an SUV for my next vehicle when I traded my 12 year old sedan a few months ago, but remembered that at my age that there was nothing I could put into an SUV that I would have been able to unload by myself when I got home. I figured a truck, bakkie, made more sense if I wanted utility, but a sedan with fold down rear seats and a decent liftover would be just a bit better. So I bought a newer sedan. It's a nice daily driver, quiet, reasonably economical, and rides/handles well. ( Though, like that Corolla, no contender for race track duties.)

@angrysocialjusticewarrior

2 жыл бұрын

Another advantage is that its almost impossible to roll over a sedan by simply steering too hard when performance evasive maneuvers. A bakkie or SUV can roll over even from a simple pothole at the right speed.

I am in love with your reviews You made me love this car

I love all your reviews🤣🤣 hope you get that bonus, well deserved

Commenting on fuel prices: "It feels like you are being stabbed, in your...wallet"! 😂🤣😂 I honestly enjoy all your car reviews. ALL OF THEM. I have been your follower for at least six years.

@Carscoza

2 жыл бұрын

This warms our hearts! Thank you so much

@josuablom7533

2 жыл бұрын

You know you've made it in car journalism when people watch any review of yours, regardless of how uninterested they are in the car being reviewed.

@Mzwandile_Makhowane

2 жыл бұрын

@@josuablom7533 😁

I’ve been looking out for the review of this car since you mentioned it on your podcast. Now waiting for the Corolla Cross review. 🙃

Awesome video this is what South Africa really needs as well as wants bro thank you 😎👍

My favourite of all Toyotas - thanks for a nice review.

This is en route to beat carwow! Love the content

Great review. Awesome job. Perfect 10.

A brilliant car and a brilliant review. Thanks Ciro.

Went with a family member last week to look at corolla cross for them and ended up getting a quote on the corolla sedan for my dad. I was very impressed by the interior, size and build quality. Its very close to an entry level luxury sedan, only lacking a more fancier infotainment system and fancier plastic trim for the interior to match the ride quality. Also interms of space it doesn't feel much smaller than the cross and exterior looks 10x better on the sedan.

Just a correction Ciro, the Toyota CVT is actually called eCVT (electronic CVT). With over 10 years of owning/driving hybrids, the truth is the fuel-saving depends largely on the driver and his/her driving style more than what the hybrid technology can offer. Otherwise, very reliable & comes with a standard 8yrs/195 000km traction battery warranty that you won't need/use

Hybrid starting to make sense at an affordable price with low fuel consumption well done Toyota

I take all your points and agree but the biggest problem with the Corolla, in this country specifically, is that people instantly think you’re an Uber driver. And that’s not often a good thing

@risunadavis7083

6 ай бұрын

😂 nkingha iyini Vafo

@v_isforvictory9366

15 күн бұрын

Uber drivers can't afford this VW polo

I absolutely loved how you say, ''...but I'm here to make a case..."

Hey Ciro, it would be great if you could compare the Corolla with the equivalent Corolla Cross in a future road test. Would be interesting to know, objectively, the sedan vs SUV debate based on a test of the two...

Nice driving around Wynberg Hill area innie Kaap hey Ciro?😎👋👍

Amazing how evryrtimr I thought of something to ask about , you responded with the answer....too good bro. I would buy it hands down but I hate the CVT . Dsg just makes u feel a whole lot more responsive and in control. Thanks man

@raymondmalan487

2 жыл бұрын

DSG is not suited for Hybrid Technology. "Response are" are not at the Core of this Technology, but Economy and Emmisions. ( If you need "Response" get a German, DSG that will last till just outside the Warranty Lapses ). Toyota and Lexus have been using CVT and Hybrid for over 27 Years.

@deonhrupnarain

2 жыл бұрын

@@raymondmalan487 yes I'm aware - but 27 yrs ago we would of not thot of hybrid vehicles the way we do. CVT just doesn't feel right . Perhaps I'm too accustomed to hearing and feeling instant throttle and gear changes from dsg as compare to my CVT cars.

PLEASE PLEASE do a review of the new Corolla Hatch Hybrid as soon as it lands in SA.

Would’ve liked some info on the maintenance costs to expect from a hybrid or this car specifically. Like how much are those low friction tyres? Warranty on battery and battery replacement cost?

i still love sedans extremely practical and i personally like sitting low in a car just feels faster and saver that way

@udodedekind7292

2 жыл бұрын

Its literally not safer😂

@angrysocialjusticewarrior

2 жыл бұрын

@@udodedekind7292 It is safer. Sedans have an extremely low center of gravity that makes it almost impossible to roll over. Bakkies and SUV's roll over very easily (you can roll them over even by simply turning your steering wheel to sharply at the right speed). Sedans also have significantly better handling and stability on the road which will allow you to be more successful in performing emergency evasive maneuvers. Also, don't be fooled into thinking that just because a vehicle sits higher, that its a bigger vehicle and thus able to absorb the impart of a car crash better. Almost all of the time, a crossover SUV is nothing more than a sedan with a raised suspension. A real SUV (Ford Everest, Fortuner, Toureg, etc) is a bigger vehicle (but there are also sedans that are also big just like Bentley, Audi A7, Lexus LS500, etc).

@udodedekind7292

2 жыл бұрын

@@angrysocialjusticewarrior I understand your point but dont be a fool to forget that the bigger the vehicle the more momentum it has what happens when a big suv hits a sedan, which vehicle obtaines more damage and when a sedan hits an suv from the side the suv wil tip or the sedan wil simply push itself under the suv by taking this into consederation the suv driver and passengers are much safer as they are not directly impacted the sedan could be crushed with the driver inside My dad is jaws of life qualified and I have seen this time and time again while you are right the stapabilty and handling and performance of sedans tend to be alot better but how is all that handling any good when a SUV with 3 times the curb weight hits you or you them , Id rather be in the Suv the😉

@udodedekind7292

2 жыл бұрын

@@angrysocialjusticewarrior There is a reason truck drivers step away from an accident unharmed or with minor injuries and the sedan passengers in bodybags😉😉😉Facts F=ma Newtons second law😉

@udodedekind7292

2 жыл бұрын

Yust a reminder to remember your physics😉

Seems to be a good car,thanks.

BTW, I always am an adamant sedan (BMW) owner. I love the design and maneuverability of the sedans.

You tried to revive the love for sedans, you tried 😅

Well done Toyota 👍🏻

Will be released with different / higher specs (for example the XR version, like you get in the Corolla Cross)? Some additional creature comforts would be great....

No, that B mode is not bringing you more regenerated power, but uses the petrol engine compression to slow down the car even more. This way you dont use your breakpads only and overheating them. Make sure to break now and then with these hybrids, because your breakdiscs are gonna rust after a while almost not using them. Changing the breakpads is about every eight to ten years, because you break mostly on a electric motor. Also pay attention leaving a higway exit on speed, because lifting the gaspedal shuts down the ICE immidiately to safe fuel, but the car will not slow down much by the motor generator MG2.

I love everything about this car except the hub caps :)

When will you guys be getting your hands on the new LC300?

The part about sedan boots being bigger than SUVs is so true. I discovered that about a decade ago. I drove the family's brand new Hyundai Elantra to work and at the office parking, after work, my boss and I happened to open our boots and I was surprised by how small his SUV boot was. I thought that since it was higher off the ground, it would be big all around. Not so much.

@angrysocialjusticewarrior

2 жыл бұрын

I think what both you and Ciro actually mean is that boots from *Crossovers are small, not SUV. SUV is a big car like Toyota Fortuna and Ford Everest, and can fit a massive amount of cargo. The cars with the small boots that you are referring to, are crossovers or "XUV" (not SUV). XUV's like the Rav4, Hyndai Tucson, etc are small. When it comes to hatchbacks, some car reviewers like to claim that hatcbacks have more boot space than sedans, but in my personal experience it has always been the opposite. A polo hatchback wont fit as many bags as the sedan version.

Can you do a comparison video on every generation corolla in one video.

You get those consumption figures because you are using B mode. It is only for steep slopes and it boosts consumption. I've been daily driving this car for 2 years now, and my ovaerall average is 4,5 l/100km. 5,5 on motorways and 3,8 in the city.

@fostermaluleke9371

4 ай бұрын

Wow, thank you for updating us on fuel consumption, I'm failing in love with this car

He’s reviewing the car in my neighbourhood😁😁😁

I like the 2018 style Corolla better than the 2021 so that's why I would buy the better looking SUV Hybrid Corolla Cross even though I love sedans.

Ciro, does the Corolla cross also have the graphic on the infortainment display

Did I see an old fashioned alarm "sensor" on the dashboard? I'm sure the petrol engined ones doesn't have that. And the rear outer headrests are fixed?

I’m hoping for the Cross review ASAP 😅

@patlophamotse5836

2 жыл бұрын

Me too!

this corolla looks good as a hatch

Ciro talk about maintenance.. Hybrids might end up being more expensive to repair and maintain oe'r their petrol powered counterparts...

@khulekanimngadi5227

2 жыл бұрын

8 year battery warranty

Whats up with the old school alarm proximity sensor on the dash?

I never expected to see that aftermarket alarm sensor tho ! it looks so out of place

Why are they even putting on hub caps? Those rims just need a good colour and it will be better than the caps

@siphelelekhankhan

2 жыл бұрын

Probably the caps help with better airflow which plays a part in fuel consumption.

But can I imagine my dad driving one? Because every dad has driven a Corolla at some stage.

What were the quirks unique to this import model vs the SA built ones?

@DiscoFang

2 жыл бұрын

Broken promises, apparently.

@angrysocialjusticewarrior

2 жыл бұрын

Given Toyota SA's track record, I'll assume that the SA version comes with wheelcaps and the import comes with real allow rims. I also wouldn't be surprised if the SA built ones come with a cassette player and a large hole where the infotainment system was supposed to be. Skinny bicycle tires with no ABS probably come standard too. Hopefully the SA version does not come with a Toyota tazz engine and laptop battery as the SA version of a "hybrid".

@nostramashego4226

2 жыл бұрын

@@angrysocialjusticewarrior 🤣🤣

Please do the Kia Sonet!

A question I keep asking myself. Why do they not also integrate the batteries of a hybrid into the floor, like they do with full EVs? That way you don't encroach on boot space and fuel tank size. Imagine you could still have that 50l tank (as opposed to the 40l in the hybrid), you could do over 1000km on a single tank, as opposed to the 800KM on the 40l tank. And perhaps you could still fit a full size spare, if you really want to. Thank you for a great review.

@declansgamereview6523

2 жыл бұрын

Probably because of the space the exhaust system takes up and the heat it generates which will affect the battery- just my guess. The fuel tank also needs to go under the back seat as well.

@siyabongacele8049

2 жыл бұрын

Less fuel tank=less weight=less fuel consumption Bigger tank=more weight=more fuel consumption That why even the battery is not too big

The B mode or brake mode doesn't actually regen, instead it keeps the engine on and uses engine compression to slow the car down. This is useful when going down a long steep hill. In D mode or drive mode the engine often turns off to save fuel, so B mode overcomes this. To be clear, D mode is more efficient than B mode. Try it and you will see the engine will not turn off in B mode.

24000e for a new Corolla Hybrid in SA, while in Europe, the price is from 36000-43000e...

It's not recommended to use B mode under normal driving conditions. I'ts meant for scenarios where you would engine-brake in an ICE car.

Was that a fart sound when you were removinh the wheelcap?😳😂😂😂

Yeah looks better without the hubcaps in my opinion

We just waiting for toyota cross review

You dont get the Touring Sport?

we are now in session for Drivers vs Toyota Corolla Hybrid

Your heading indicates a review for the XS Hatch Hybrid, but you kicking off with the Sedan Hybrid and not Hatch Hybrid XS

Looks like a mix between the hatch and sedan we have in Europe.

@angrysocialjusticewarrior

2 жыл бұрын

that's because it *IS* the same as the one from Europe. South Africa also has the new sedan and hatchback version. The one in this video is a video of the new version of the corolla that was facelifted in 2019.

Toyota Hybrids are super popular here in Canada, and getting more so, with good reason. And they offer the driving range to cover vast distances of wilderness with no petrol stations without inducing panic in the driver…..for fear of getting mauled alive by grizzlies (or lions in SA) or freezing to death (quite literally)whilst stranded beside the road without fuel…. So one can see the hybrid system as a safety feature. 😉. AND the plug-in hybrid RAV4 Prime is, apart from the GR Supra (which is really a BMW in Toyota drag), the fastest Toyota in Canada from 0-100km/h at 5.7sec’s! And with such a name, you have the bragging rights to say you drive a Transformer.

@KAMOYA17

Жыл бұрын

Lions don’t roam around so, there is absolutely no chance of being mauled. It’s extremely rare that a lion escapes a game farm.

@hendrikpotgieter4501

Жыл бұрын

😂 Having been born and spent the first four decades of my life in South Africa, I’m well aware. I was being facetious.

@KAMOYA17

Жыл бұрын

@@hendrikpotgieter4501 I should have paid closer attention to your name 🤦🏾‍♂️. I thought you were one of those ignorant North Americans 👀 and missed the facetiousness of your comment 😄

Did you compare that Toyota with a 320d? Will the Toyota have 140kW and 400Nm and do 5.0l/100km?

@thetad1242

2 жыл бұрын

Wasnt really a comparison. The guy just wanted to paint a picture of how efficient the car is. Simply that you can trust a hybrid to give good figures.

nuff said , did you say i can get 20km with 1L of petrol ?

Suzuki Ciaz and Honda Ballade...great fuel consumption, well specced, better warranties and much cheaper

I might have missed it, but: 1)I assume it can be plug-in charged 2)Have you driven it in EV mode, and how practical is that? 3)Have you checked what the EV-mode range is when fully-charged? As someone who installed solar as a means to pay off a whole-home UPS to beat load-shedding while working from home, on sunny days I have excess solar, and it would be great to use it to save fuel/money/the planet.

@CiroDeSiena

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry I should have made that clearer. The Corolla Hybrid is not a PHEV (plug-in hybrid EV) - in other words it is a closed loop system, where it charges the battery itself. The EV mode is only really available under 40km/h, so not terribly practical but very good in traffic. In your situation, I would say you need a PHEV or a full BEV. A good option could be the BMW i3 REx, which has a range extender (generator) in the boot.

TOYOTA NEED TO MAKE A CAR WITH SUNROOF PLEASE

Dude where is the full Corolla Cross video!

@Carscoza

2 жыл бұрын

Hi there, the Corolla Cross will only be released in the middle of November, and we're expecting a test unit around that time. Thanks for your interest

Corolla or Honda Fit. Come on nail your colours to the mast!!

Give the hybrid corolla nice wheels, stiffer springs and AWD-e and it’ll sell like crazy

@angrysocialjusticewarrior

2 жыл бұрын

Who would want stiff springs on a daily driver? My goodness! Stiff springs is one of the major reasons owners of sporty hatchbacks never keep their cars for long. They ride too horribly. As for AWD. The fact that South Africa does not have any extreme weather, I'd rather go for RWD. But the types of drivers who drive a corolla or Polo would not even know how to drive RWD safely (Just look how many of them keep spinning out in their bmw 1 series and 3 series), so FWD is fine for a corolla.

@crisantogarcia6646

2 жыл бұрын

@@angrysocialjusticewarrior I'm in the US so I am talking about the US market.

Fuel consumption of 5.0L/100km is impressive, coincidentally I'm also getting getting the same 5.0L/100km from my '09 Corolla 2.0 D4-D

@pornokid333

2 жыл бұрын

i think he mentioned diesel okes like you in the video...

@AllTheNamesAreGone

2 жыл бұрын

It's not that impressive, I expected better with all that tech.

@thetad1242

2 жыл бұрын

@@AllTheNamesAreGone do you have a car that can travel without burning fuel in traffic congestion that's better than this?

@AllTheNamesAreGone

2 жыл бұрын

@@thetad1242 Tesla

@ratlhaa

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe a hybrid diesel could be a sub 4L/100km

The biggest advantage of a hybrid over a turbo diesel, is that turbo diesels don't last.

What happens when petrol is done? Does it automatically switch to battery mode?

@Nico-ge9sr

2 жыл бұрын

If you happen to run out of petrol and have a full battery, you can probably coast along for no more than 120m until it runs flat. The battery isn’t meant for long distance travel, but rather quick trips, traffic, parking lots and speedy boosts when taking off, hence why it doesn’t need recharging.

@spinkick9270

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nico-ge9sr thanks for the thorough answer I really appreciate it.

@DiscoFang

2 жыл бұрын

Actually a maximum of about 2km running at low speeds, under about 35kph.

Challenge accepted, - the corolla cross suv has a bigger boot than that.

Hybrid is the Answer and Not Full Electric. ( S.A 3rd World Infrastructure and ESKOM ). Toyota are Light-Years ahead and so Lexus aswell with Hybrid Technology. Great Option.

You are making a good case for petrol-hybrid and electric against diesel, and I'm sure many tree hugging motorists will adore you for that, but let's look at the facts from a local South African perspective: Firstly, petrol prices will NOT decrease, best case, maybe stay the same, but more likely to double over 5-10 more years. Secondly, we know the criminals running the country won't be able to steal much petrol tax if everyone goes electric, so I can't see the infrastructure needed for charging going up pretty soon, maybe only W.Cape. And thirdly, with our failing BBBEE/Zimbabwe-like economy, petrol will eventually become a scarcity, then diesel engined vehicles might be our only mode of transport.

This is a great review and a nice car but It seems the new corolla cross hybrid will be cheaper than this sedan. Personally i would just get the cross assuming most features will be the same.

Should have been a plugin hybrid.

The number of these on uk roads is ridiculous (not the sedan, but the hatch and estate)

First one here 😅

I'm not too worried about emissions.

why does he have a chapter about the price but never says how much the car actually is😂

Wow I

the car looks better with projector headlights

I think Toyota is lazy, to keep on making hybrids instead of introducing Full BEV to markets like SA. They could easily become a market leader and surpass Jaquar and porsche from a price point.

@raymondmalan487

2 жыл бұрын

Full Electric........with Decaying Infrastructure and ESKOM.......no mate, Hybrid is the way to go.

why would toyota put hubcabs over a decent looking mag wheel :/

@ld9387

2 жыл бұрын

Aerodynamics

@pornokid333

2 жыл бұрын

@@ld9387 so just make an aerodynamic wheel in the first place

COROLLA CROSS HYBRID

You mention R400-000 like it's small change !!!! Thats &*§¥¢¿ expensive!!! At least it has a 1.8 litre engine, not like others with a 1.2 and still R400k!! Prices are totally rediculous!!!!

Hub caps on decent looking alloy rims…. Interesting and weird.

It should have been a hatch

2:40 I see what you did there

Today gas is R25/L

This drive train is more efficient then that op

I have the 2017 Corolla exclusive CVT I get 8l per 100 km in town. The 1.4 Diesel gets 5 Litres per 100 and this Hybrid gets the same... Why the hell doesn't Toyota just bring back the Diesel motor and save even more money on not having a useless hybrid? I get that Diesel is more dirty, but in the greater scheme of things the biggest polluters are coal, these Hybrids will do,almost nothing in the real world to bring down emissions. I as a consumer want a low cost to run car, and diesel is the best.

Move away from diesel? You are very funny🤣🤣🤣

This is a real city to city car. By the way, it looked more like a bout of flatulence than being stabbed in the wallet 🤪

I can’t understand why Toyota look so crap in SA, checkout how sporty even a Corolla looks in the US.

This is a uber car❤🤝😍🙌

The 1.4 D4D is more fuel efficient than this hybrid.

Can you say uber,bolt,maxi taxi

@ratlhaa

2 жыл бұрын

Toyota quantum