Thanks for tuning my MT10 brother. Its a completely different bike now!!! So much more power, and the throttle is so smooth!!!!

@multi-taskconstructioncomp5749

3 жыл бұрын

Mooremafia is the best

@TeamMooreMafia

3 жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

@daveyt4802

3 жыл бұрын

Lucky man. Only around $500 for the 20 HP. Didn't have to get a new muffler either.

@multi-taskconstructioncomp5749

3 жыл бұрын

I will be adding a slip on exhaust and hopefully got a few more horsepower and lose another pound or 2!!!

@Wheelo40

3 жыл бұрын

I’m gonna be THAT guy. I sport tour on mine. What did it do to your mileage?

Stock 2020 MT-10 owner here. 20 HP and 9 pounds for $500?! Do NOT delete that file! Talk to you soon.

@ToxicGamer86454

4 ай бұрын

15hp over stock. The 129 was mods with no tune so it was running way lean

@N0kJAA

Ай бұрын

Hehehe 😊

This is great, in-depth video, love to see behind the scenes of flashing and overall tuning and comparison of exhausts/converters. This is KZread gold

This guy is such a consummate professional. When I saw how we approached The GSXR 1000 With multiple minute weight reductions and Multiple minute Hp increases and got huge results I was amazed

The modes don't change power output. All they change is how the electronic throttle responds in relation to the actual throttle input. Also that LeoVince link pipe doesn't have a cat in it, it's just a resonator. It's the only pipe for the MT-10 that has one. The Graves EVR keeps the exhaust valve for similar effect. You should also disable the PAIR valve to get rid of the popping under 4k on decel

@twowheelpilot

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like more power to me. Dyno chart clearly shows that.

@willl84

2 жыл бұрын

@@twowheelpilot that's because the modes limit throttle opening. If you do a run at 1/2 throttle instead of full (on a standard cable throttle bike) it'll show less power because you're not letting as much air in so you can't make full power

@chrisnoble5705

2 жыл бұрын

@@willl84 You are 100% correct.

Love these vids, don't stop making them. Wish you could get a MT-09/CP3 to do sometime....they are fun!

I had a 2018 MT10, I had block off plates, a mid pipe and slip on by two brothers and a K&N air filter. I also had a power commander installed, affter the Dyno it was 145whp. Great vids man, been binge watching all day.

My God, the sound is just amazing! Just got a 2017 and I am going to be doing this exact setup. Leo mid pipe in the mail. Chris be expecting a phone call soon. Keep rippin bro!!

Looking forward to starting my weekend off right watching this!

I would buy this bike even just for the sound!

@TeamMooreMafia

3 жыл бұрын

They sound great!

@mattburnette4991

3 жыл бұрын

I own this bike in the video complete monster I love it

@RichardASK

3 жыл бұрын

I did!

Mr. Moore, thank you for these videos! I love them. I want to take my bike to you so bad!

Great video. Minimal mods..maximum gains...reasonable cash outlay....great info! Thanks.

@TeamMooreMafia

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

This thing sounds like a freaking space ship i love it so much its my dream bike at this point

WAAZZUUUPP MOORE MAFIA !!!!Huge gains - and that fuel-mix graph - straight as arrow !

Hell yeah this is the same bike and year also color I have. Definitely gonna watch this all the way through

Hey Chris, hello again from Wales. I have a bike that's been dynoed and PC3'd with an air filter etc., but it's interesting that this Yam lost power before a fuelling increase. I found exactly the same thing happened with my turbo diesel car, an old style indirect injection Peugeot. After fitting an air filter and straight through exhaust it lost power, wouldn't top 98mph, even downhill but after turning up the fuel at the injection pump, it hit 123mph easily. I also found that at anything less than flat out, the mpg went up from 47 to a regular 53mpg in normal usage. I expect the owners of bikes you work on will find much the same result. Incidentally, my bike's consumption improved by about 6mpg as well, so, you're actually an eco warrior, albeit unintentionally ! Medal of Honor to follow from uncle Joe forthwith.

I just got my mt10 yesterday Chris!!! Gonna break it in and send you that Ecu!!! And congrats on the big win partner

It is nice to see improvements in the midrange where I ride most of the time. A sales person at my local dealership told me not to bother with a tune if I didn’t ring my bike out. On public roads, high rpm is only really accessible in the lower gears and an abrupt throttle takes the fun out of that. I am more interested in improvements in midrange power, fuel/air ratios and throttle smoothness.

@1sinister80

Жыл бұрын

These bikes geared high anyway I top out at 155 I wouldn't mind getting longer legs so cruising at 80 could gain some MPG. I am getting 36mpg, but I think I could get in the 40s.

I asked for this exact video last week brother thank you so much 😩

@TeamMooreMafia

3 жыл бұрын

Just for you! 😎

Never get bored with the sound !!!

Chris, I picked up an MT-10 last October and constantly scour KZread for related vids. I was kinda shocked when I started the video and saw your mug!!

@TeamMooreMafia

3 жыл бұрын

🤣👀

You are master every time I see your video i really appreciate your work

I remember when you broke the stock lonblock record in your viper. They used to call you boost all nos because they thought you were spraying. Awesome to se you come so far.

@TeamMooreMafia

2 жыл бұрын

Yes sir! Thanks man

This is a GREAT video!! I'm glad that you are tuning more nonconventional bikes.

@chicblair

3 жыл бұрын

Well said Gregory, guys don't realise the potential of what they have got. Their always thinking the grass is greener with a different bike, when actually they just need the Right person to be looking at the ride *MooreMafia* #1 😁👍

@TeamMooreMafia

3 жыл бұрын

Dat's right!

Great movie, agree that the ECU flash makes a different bike. Biggest difference is however the smoothness in the sportier power mode (B for Beast on my 2016).. actually makes it drivable not trying to throw you of on throttle on/off... But, no surprise you didn’t see power difference between the 3 modes, they are at full throttle the same only the steepness of curve is different not the end point..

Great video mate. I got the mt10 as well. Keep doing what you do.

I'm looking to getting this bike since my back can't take riding super sports after my accident. This really sold me

Good video and I like how you explained the process. That is 9 more horsepower than my modded FZ1 had and sounds better

Nice write up! That mid pipe is an affordable option for sound. Offroad use only ofcourse 😉

After the tune she got all violent! Good shit

Love it friend. I just looked at a MT-09 up here in Asheville on Friday.

You won't get any handling gains from dropping 9lbs from the bike with the wieght being down that low, dropping 9lbs from an under tail exhaust which is up high can definitely help especially when transitioni ng side to side like an S turn. Nice job on the tune and flash Mike.

Another satisfied customer here. 2024 mt10 with the MM tune, k&n air filter, and leo vince midpipe. Soooo much smoother. Definitely be heard now. Decel backfires sounds like a gun shot. I didn’t need to connect a scan tool

Very impressive gains with minimal mods. I bet that is going to be one hell of a fun bike now! Awesomeness 👌 Peace ✌from PA (soon 2 b Jacksonville) 07ZX6R

great job man!!! still w8ing mt09 gen1 !!!!!

You could actually hear it go off, after the flash and all that, it didn't hesitate at all anywhere in the rev range. Nice and linear.

best part is price transparency! kudos mate

Might have to mail mine in from Australia! The power gains for the money are to good to turn up.

Great video! It would have been great to see how much the gain would have been with just a ECU flash and stock exhaust so you could see how much the actuall cat-delete made by itself. 😎👍🏻

Great video. Love the result. Probably will look to do same for mine. Is there any idea how much louder in DB does it make the bike?

Very vice breakdown Chris on how the factory holds back HP.

Cross plane sounds awesome!

Sweet! Demo rode this bike a few times. It's awesome! Great job Chris.

@TeamMooreMafia

3 жыл бұрын

It sure is!

@daveyt4802

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like the bike wanted to wheelie off the dyno! This dude is going to surprise a lot of people on the street.

That's a great video and that bike sounds unreal. I shouldn't have watched it... Gonna make me wanna get one

Super reasonable price for 20hp gain on the dyno! Even more to the crank! Maybe more with a Leo Vance LV-10 slip on? If not, the MT-10 sounds pretty similar to a V4 with that LV-10 on the catless Link Pipe. I love that noise 😊

I have a 2017. It is my understanding these are not "power" modes but adjust throttle sensitivity (which explains the dyno numbers and the confusion with the name). Standard mode can still be a bit twitchy but not difficult to manage after you get some "butt in seat" time. I'd be interested in the average MPG change as it is pretty horrible from the factory. Great video!

@koolopscsm3695

3 жыл бұрын

I have 17 great questions.

Man I miss my MT-10. Best bike I’ve ever owned hands down

@gogetit1431

3 жыл бұрын

Have you ever had an R1

Just did the same mods, and ECU is OTW!

Looking forward for a zx10 record ...awesome video moore mafia

Great video as always!

This is exactly the video I needed. You're awesome! Keep up the great work! How much did all this cost, btw?

Man… This video is gold. I never expected that Moore Mafia would do a video on the MT 10. Quick question: I’m going to be purchasing a 2020 or a 2021 MT 10. When I do, I will probably be going with the Austin Racine belly exit exhaust, otherwise known as their GP3 Belly Exit De-Cat system. I will also be adding a Sprint air filter. If I perform those two modifications, will your tune work for me just as well? My huge concern is always AF ratio first, and achieving 100% throttle opening in every gear second. Do you think I will be OK with the tune you developed using a different exhaust set up? Thank you so much and thank you so much for doing something with the MT 10!!! GOLD......

Had a 2017 FZ10 and just got a new 23 MT10 SP, bike is almost the same but seems to have lost some power right off idle on new version with both bikes being stock. Overall a fantastic street bike!

When I first got my MT10, I assumed (wrongly) the position 1 would be the softest and then work it up to position 3. Wrong! In the UK, position 3 is largely suggested for rain or some other 'shitty' road conditions and 1 is the most aggressive throttle effect. Most of the time, I just leave it in 2 for the throttle and traction control. Seems ok to me. I always used to think my Blackbirds were wonderful(and they were) and took me all over Europe, but the MT10 is just amazing. The sound sold it to me, before I even bought one.

Bike sounds awesome

Thanks for educating people on what happens , when you just slap a pipe on a bike.

Suonds f...ing awesome 🤩🤩 Absolute animal, just like MotoGp. Luv It!

@Moore Mafia Thanks good vid! Its very surprising that cat was that restrictive. Are you able to tune the Euro5 spec ecu 's on the 2021 MT-09 yet? I really like the sound of the stock exhaust, but that thing will cook you when you get caught up in stop and go traffic and I'm having nasty heat soak with it.

Hi from the Uk, I got my 2018 flashed and dyno work too but left the cat on. Started with 145, and finished at 152. Massive gains on 30,40 and 50% throttle too where you spend most of the time on these bikes too. Difference is night and day. Recommended

@sugarrfree

3 жыл бұрын

Same power as gsx s1000 then

@caperformance_motorsports

3 жыл бұрын

Disappointing I thought they were on par with r1 , gsxr , cbr counterparts

@dazmorland

3 жыл бұрын

@@caperformance_motorsports more torque but less horsepower. As most of us spend most of the time between 4k and 10k I would rather have the MT10 over them uncomfortable race reps who often seat riders with shit skills anyway :)

@a-nus

Жыл бұрын

@@caperformance_motorsports as if youre ever taching any of those out on the street you missed the point

@caperformance_motorsports

Жыл бұрын

@@a-nus speak for yourself on reving a bike out on the street there’s a time and place for everything that’s wasn’t my point and maybe I typed my comment wrong .. Either way to each their own . I dragrace professionally my self and build and tune the same bikes not talking shit just an opinion.. as they fun bikes I just expect more

Hi Michael - great video and great result with the MT 10. Is there a way to do the same cat delete modification and flash but eliminate any deceleration popping or banging. I hate those popping noises. If not, what kind of gains would you expect by leaving the stock exhaust and cat and just doing the flash? Thanks so much!!!

Well I'm so pumped Moore finally did a newer MT-10.. I'm looking to pick up a 2020 in March. Cannot WAIT to send off the ECU; get an exhaust in, and do some WORK baby.

@willl84

3 жыл бұрын

I picked up a leftover 2019 back in August. Put on a Hindle 3/4 and just got my flashed ECU back from 2WDW. Dave wait to ride it in the spring!

@Wheelo40

3 жыл бұрын

I got my 2020 MT-10 in August and I’m absolutely thrilled with it. My riding buddies are on Super Duke R’s and another on a Multistrada. We swapped bikes around like we always do and they were all three blown away and declared the MT-10 “best chassis” of all of them. They wished for more low end grunt, but all agreed that’s just because they are used to those big twins. You will dig it!

@willl84

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wheelo40 I was looking at the 1290 SDR when I was shopping but couldn't justify the price premium over the MT-10, especially since i got a great deal on my leftover

@Wheelo40

3 жыл бұрын

@@willl84 Agreed! Why spend so much!? I have ridden my MT-10 back to back with the KTMs a few times now and I definitely prefer my bike. We all do actually. The big difference is keeping it spun up a little on corner exits. With those big twins, you can be real lazy on the shifter. But the MT handles better.

Jeez bro you really doin everything damn 💯

Nice work sir.i like that kind of bike

Now I really need to get my mt 10 down there. Been waiting for this video for years

@magicmagnificent8862

3 жыл бұрын

what year do you have? what state are you in?

@magicmagnificent8862

3 жыл бұрын

I'm in NY

@cameronbaker6115

3 жыл бұрын

@@magicmagnificent8862 2019, I'm in MN

I'd like to see a video of you flashing and tuning a mt/fz09

When you tune, do you address the fuel cut on deceleration? I know that Kawasaki aggressively cuts fuel on deceleration and have seen the abruptness on the dyno in videos. I have heard that can help to smooth the on/off throttle transitions.

when i was a kid in the 80’s it was saturday morning cartoons & breakfast, now @ 45yrs old its moore mafia tuning vids & breakfast! 🏍👍

My question is, did you completely remove the exhaust valve servo? Also what did you do with the O2 sensors? Last one, have you ever done the AIS delete as part of a setup and do you think it would make a difference or would you have to remap again afterwards?

Note to all... Power modes don't affect the power just the way the power is delivered

That bike sounded *a lot* happier after that Flash Chris, and 🤔 maybe a bit quicker acceleration as well? Why don't you time the bikes *Before* then after you have sprinkled your magic on them, just saying .....

I have a FZ-10 with exact same setup but a 2WDW mail in tune. Would love to come up and have mine dyno tuned by you and see the difference between my mail in and your dyno. I'm hoping my mail is isnt bad but without hitting the dyno and looking at the AFR no way of actually knowing.

Might have to meet up with u to flash my 2020 mt09 and get a exhaust an get up with you this summer I'm next door in charlotte,NC 🤙

dude! love your vids, hey question for you , on my 13 cbr1krr i got a pc5 and a delkevic slip on , in your opinion what is best way to go ive never understood the diff between a pc5 or flashing the ecu , pluses or minuses , just ecu or both or ??? thx

Could you do a video about how you pick final drive gearing for a bike. Didn't know if you had a method or you do more transmission rear gearing. I was always taught short gear it to a point you red line right at the finish line.

@caperformance_motorsports

3 жыл бұрын

If your running for 1/4 I always gear for the top of sixth if I have the power if not the top of fifth

nice job ..but not +20, more like +15 but thats still great gain! if this was my bike I would def consider these mods including a nice end pipe - nicely done

I need that Mod! Will call.

Love the vid. But you should probably consider putting subtitles in your vids for those loud segments. Peace!

If you changed out velocity stacks also, what would you expect to see? Torque and/or HP?

Good information. Have had a chance to modify and ECU flash a MT09 SP yet? I’m considering the MT10 or MT09 SP .

17:01 thing spits fire 🔥

@MooreMafia do you recommend/suggest an ignition-cut quick shifter or a fuel-cut quick shifter?

Ever do a 2015 Ninja 650? I swapped out sprockets to get an additional 33% torque, so it went from 47 to 62.5. Was about to cut and splice a Two Bros exhaust onto it, but now IDK... Don't want to lose power...

What a great vid !!! Just wished you had done DB recording before and after ! Would you say that de-cat pipe is a neighbour hater or easy to live with ?

@TeamMooreMafia

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely not that loud.

138-140 bhp stock, 150+ bhp tuned is my guess (for EU version, US is more restricted -3 to -5 bhp stock)

I have to drag my FZ10 to your shop!

Awesome video 👍 Thanks will be in touch soon 👍

Do a Decat without a silencer( straight pipe ) with a scorpion Gpr1 can !!!

I did all these exact same mods to my 2020 MT-10 I just went with the akrapovic titanium mid pipe with the stock muffler. You are definitely right about the power loss I rode around for about 2 months WITHOUT a ECU flash after I got it flashed man it was like night and day. I love the throttle response after the ECU flash when you twist the throttle there’s no lag it’s straight power. thanks for this awesome video. Also I’m thinking about getting a Austin racing GP3 exhaust for the MT-10 do you think I should send it back in to get reflashed or the akrapovic mid pipe flash is good enough ?

@TeamMooreMafia

3 жыл бұрын

The muffler isn't going to change the tune a whole lot but a lil sometimes is still a lot.

i think the exup valve was first put on the FZR 1000 in 1988 to 1989 to enhance low and mid range power. nothing to do with emissions or tone

Makes me wonder how much life these guys running full systems on the new R1 without a flash?Those were some impressive gains.🏍👍

@Critastic

3 жыл бұрын

Ya for real, they are running really lean and I would not want to do that to my bike for any amount of time.

@raynic1173

3 жыл бұрын

Loud bikes always feel faster! LOL!

Nick at nicks performance has already done aftermarket stacks for the zx10. Why not buy his also and see who’s are better?

just doing my 2022 mt-10

Great video! Question: I did ECU flash , left cat converter and added a Arrow slip on( not sure I can live with loudness of cat delete. Anyway, aside from additional weight savings, does cat delete make that much more of power difference than simply reflash and a slip on? Thanks!

@TeamMooreMafia

3 жыл бұрын

Getting rid of the cat definitely helps out on the power for sure.

Do you guys do the 2022s yet? I have one on the way I wanna have it flashed as soon as it comes in

Will buy this bike just for the RUMBLE

Is the flattening at the top of the curve due to restrictions in the air box/induction and the stock header and muffler?

What was the DB levels after the Cat Eliminator? New York just passed a new law about modified exhaust and have become much stricter.

Love it friend

I would suggest kevlar pants prior to Dyno runs. One in a million hand grenade situation could be very tragic. One real world example, albeit with a car, the flywheel came apart. My pastors brother bled out almost immediately.

Hey hopefully u can help me. I bought a 2020 MT10 and immediately put a Decat leovince on it since the dealer guy said it wouldn't hurt anything. I've now got 300ish miles on it. Do u think there is permanent engine damage from the motor running lean. It runs fine.