Great job explaining the feel of the front ends, handling, suspension and acceleration. Considering most of us never get to demo one, it's a huge help in the buying decision process.

@snowtrax

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Scott, I'm glad I can be of some help. Thats what we are here for, and it's nice to hear the comments like yours. Have a great winter ~ AJ

Thanks for all the excellent comments everyone, sorry I can't personally respond to all of them. I had a few minutes today to check this stuff out, loving the good, bad and ugly comments lol. We have thick skin, and we know everyones entitled to their own opinions. Some great stuff in here though, really enjoy reading the comments from folks who put together their ultimate sled from pieces of each one. I do that too, pick the skid from this, the front end from that, the engine from another. Wish we could actually build a sled that way, maybe a future project but I know it's not that easy :-) Again thanks for watching our stuff everyone, we appreciate it even if you don't agree. Thats what makes the world go round! ~AJ

Thanks, AJ. Yet another great review. When I talked to you durning the Novi snow show I was waiting for my 2020 Indy XCR 850. You were right, it’s amazing!

@matthewblank214

2 жыл бұрын

Dang straight they are amazing sleds

Both great machines , I went for my first ride yesterday on my 2020 mxz xrs 850 yesterday ... what a Machine , it’s a good time to be a sled head, so many options for your style of riding.

Best video ever!! Thanks for the information..

Excellent video. I like that sticker package on the Polaris. Both sleds scream fine quality craftsmanship. They both perform at the highest level. People complain about the cost especially compared to 20 years ago and yes it is a large sum of money to spend on a toy. With that said the advancement in technology and the ability to enjoy the sport so much more is amazing. Everything has gone up in 20 years. I understand that not everyone can afford a sled like these two but even your base Polaris skidoo’s, cats or Yamahas are worth their weight in gold. These two just happen to be at the top of the two stroke spectrum. Keep up the great work

@jordanlittle5391

4 жыл бұрын

I agree to that in a way if your 1996 800 storm was 8000 back in the day with lesser sleds being alot less when you account for the 1-2% inflation over 20 years 12000 is right in line that being said I cant justify spending the other 5000 that they have seemed to increased on the higher models

I have an 18 XCR rush 800 and just bought an XRS renegade 850 ....... up here in NY we just got a huge storm and I spent a lot of time hopping from sled to sled on my local trails. Absolutely unbelievable rear suspension on the XRS... motor is obviously much stronger than the 800. The Skidoo makes the Polaris feel like a relic sitting side by side but the ultimate persuasion come s from the confidence that the XCR gives. Absolutely no comparison. Regardless of suspension setup.... the difference is huge. I love the SkiDoo .. its a work of art but thats now my wifes new sled.

Another great video !!

Very very well said AJ. My thoughts exactly.

I liked your video very much, both Sleds are awesome! I keep wanting and waiting for you to walk around to the other side and let us look at them from a different angle. I would love to be able to snow check a new sled! Currently we have a '12 ASSAULT 144" for me and a ' 13 PRO R 137" for my wife. Never have rode anything newer. NOTE: I had the top end rebuilt on my ASSAULT at 4K miles and put the Wisco piston upgrade kit in it. Mechanic said the engine was in great shape with normal wear! I also just pulled the skid and had the shocks rebuilt. Maybe someday I will be buying a new sled but even then I would wait for a new "left over" model. It's just too much money to snow check ✔ keep up the good work! 👍👏

I have never had an issue with the ski doo front end and turning, in fact I personally think it turns easy. On this video I disagree with JUST about every negative points you made about ski doo, other than maybe the GPS and the storage. The Gen4 chassis is absolutly the funnest sled I have ever ridden.

Him: Speaks of how heavy the skidoo steering is. Also him: 24:50 Has front shock springs cranked almost all the way. 😂

I've only ever ridden Polaris, my family too. But that Ski Doo looks so damn good.

@daryllmroberts7958

4 жыл бұрын

never rode a polaris ever

@ericthompson3253

4 жыл бұрын

daryll m roberts you guys all crazy 😂lol . I have ridden many different years of each brand and they are all amazing. I’m happy someone else agrees that the skidoo gen 4s look amazing

2 best sleds on the snow tis year!

Great Video thanks for the info! Looking forward to be riding one next year!

I would like to see polaris and ski doo riding side by side and see how both sleds react to the same situations. Yeah I've seen videos of them riding separately but never together. I think a video of them side by side doing random things like hitting bumps going threw fresh powder or just take off and hold them wide open on different snow conditions. Just an idea love the videos you and your father and brother make. I hope to be able to meet and maybe even ride with you guys.

Great video AJ, would have been nice to hear how they each sounded. Would be interested in seeing a comparison between the XCR Switchback vs the XCR Indy.

Good fast review ! Thanks !

Polaris!! GPS trail maps,the cherry 🍒

@mrmoparrr

3 жыл бұрын

Im A Staunch Ski-Doo guy but yer right about the Gps Trail Maps

Great video AJ!. I thought the legth of the video was fine because what i liked the most is the amount of detailed info you gave us about the sleds when comparing them and hearing your personal thoughts and opinions about each thing you covered. I do enjoy the analytical comparisons but I truley am interested in the real world findings, opinions and reviews you guys share with us because we dont get to ride all the latest and greatest back to back like you guys do so when purchasing a new sled those are the things we viewers are most interested in or at least I am. I also enjoy the walk around videos as well as seeing you guys shred so keep up the good work! One other thing, I would really like to see this style of video between the assault and backcountry xrs as well as a 137 Freeride! Those are the 3 sleds im intrrested in for next year, if nothing else would like to see you do the FR because i know youve talked about the other two a fair amout. Thanks, Cheers!

@snowtrax

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment and the explanation. I love hearing this kinda stuff! I don't have a free ride on the ground this season but I do have a BC XRS and an SB Assault so I can do that for you for sure. Actually maybe I'll do it this afternoon if I can get out from behind a screen and keyboard, some days aren't as exciting as others. Look for the video, I'll hook ya up! And thanks for watching, we appreciate it ~ AJ

@Sdm07120

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds great thanks for listening, im excited to hear your thoughts on the two!! I think the assault fits the bill for me as i ride more on trail then off and the fact it comes with storage, gps gauge, led headlights and you get to pick your colors during snowcheck it kinda seems like a no brainer! The problem im having is the fit n finish and the tech ski doo offers(DI motor, pdrive clutch, shot start) makes you feel like your getting your moneys worth because the product is so refined its hard for me to pass up even though the assault on paper makes more sense. Please talk me into one or the other haha but for real im interested to hear your thoughts as to which one you would go with for trail riding and flatland freeriding. What are some of the main differences that would sway you one way or the other. Thanks again AJ hope you guys have a great winter!!

The Riot X had the telescopic handlebar that he mentioned. Great review as always! Can't wait for the Riot and Riot X review! Finally rode my Riot a few weeks ago and it is awesome!

Nice review, AJ! I have a ‘19 Renegade 850 XRS with ice cobra 1.6”, so not exactly the same. I rode 3k+ miles last winter, mostly in the UP. Couple thoughts: motor/P drive is strong, linear, predictable - love it. Great traction on/off trail with Ice Cobra, but noisy, max speed around 100mph. I did not get adjustment package, as I set it and forget it. I could never see myself messing with the TS skis. Love the Pilot 5.7 skis - never ridden any ski I like better. I run 8” Center carbide, 4” outside. I love the heavy, precise feel of the Ski-Doo front end. It rails through the twisties and gives me great confidence. My friends on all other brands can’t keep up here. Don’t think it’s my skills, rather the confidence I get from front end-it goes where I direct it. I don’t have much interest in wheelies, but if that’s your thing, Renegade XRS will be frustrating. Don’t need Ski-Doo to add storage - I have Jerry can in position 1, semi hard bag in 2. That works great for trail riding - I’m never short on storage. I like the Poo gauge with GPS. I have glove box extension, but haven’t installed a GPS yet - can’t figure out what to buy. Love the (old) ‘19 Ski-Doo gauge, but miss the built-in compass from my ‘12 Renegade. I have adjustable bars, but always ride in 2nd position back. As you noted, I’d probably use height adjustment more. Both great sleds - I’d have fun with either! Thx!

Really enjoy the Vids, thank you for the content! Never been a fan of Polaris, but that is a damn nice looking sled!👍still don't think I would own one, but I thank you for all the information, now if I could find a good Arctic cat to compare 😜 thanks for your time showing the different sleds!

GREAT REVIEW. LOVE THE OPINION! keep posting.

Well this is a video I want to watch

i have rode both and both are incredable sleds your gonna be happy with either one ride what you want and be safe. great video thank you

Good review. Love the opinion piece. I agree, I was wondering why Ski Doo took away the brand stickers because when I was 13-14 out in the trails and saw an XRS I was so impressed by all the cool brands that were part of the sled

any one I know who has sat on a skidoo or took one for a test ride was always surprised how a skidoo performs. but people are always in touch with what they know.

What’s most important let’s face it is resale value. Where I’m from the ski doo commands much higher used prices. That is an important factor when deciding which machine to purchase. Cheers

@jamescantlin1072

2 жыл бұрын

LMAO.

To answer your question, which sled, as is, out of the box do I prefer. I have owned nothing but Ski-doo, because they have what I was looking for built into the model years I currently own (3 sleds). That said, I would take the Polaris XCR over the XRS for several of the reason you had pointed out and some other reasons you did not point out. My list why Polaris: 1. Storage - I carry a small tool kit, mitts, thin gloves, oil, water, snacks, flash light. 2. Handle bar - I am 6'4" with my boots and I need a bar that can handle my height from both seating position and standing "without" trying to adjust on the fly. Trails always go from super smooth to bumpy kidney bruisers in a second. 3. Windscreen - riding at dark or day in 10 degrees and colder need I say more? 4. LED Headlights - I have them on my pick-up, my garden tractor, my boat & boat search light. When is the last time you changed a LED light bulb multiple times? 5. Steering- after 7-9 hours of riding, which I do periodically every season the heavy steering wears me out. 6. Ergonomics for seating position, it's more natural and I can move my legs and feet around better. 7. Ride comfort, though the Polaris is a pinch softer...is it after 7-9 hrs? That's called comfort. I am not a rider who stands for hours on end, the seat is there for a reason. 8. The dash & having the built in GPS. I have purchased the Garmin and added the micro SD drive with the built in trail maps for under $200. Ever price Ski-doo's Garmin and holder package....brace yourself for major sticker shock. Type of rider I am: Off trail 50% riding on trail pretty fast as conditions allow it. Age - 55 (ugh) height 6'3" no shoes. weight with gear 325-330 lbs. Riding area Pittsburg, NH - Rangeley-Jackman, ME Sleds own: 2014 Sk-doo Renegade Adrenaline 600eTec, 2012 Ski-doo GSX 800 eTec with 137 track length, 2001 Ski-doo MXZ 800 w/DPM stretched to 137", 1994 Polaris 500 DLX (restored to original 2017), 1987 Yamaha Phazer (Father/ Son project to stretch track length, upgrade suspension w/LED headlights) We are a family of 5 and we all ride together as much as possible. But, I do have that group of 8 guys who like to rip it up a few times a year getting stuck in the woods for hours. So I think that answers your question CJ plus a look at what type of riders follow your channel, thanks for an excellent review!!

Both sleds look fantastic.

Why doesn’t skidoo offer LED headlights yet? For that money they should come standard like Polaris.

@tlh001

4 жыл бұрын

Agee with Josh here. I added the body mounted LED kit that is wired into the high beams (‘19 Renegade XRS). This makes a world of difference and really reaches out at higher speed. I don’t need bright low beams, but it is great having lots of light doing 60mph at night on the grade!

@adampetten1009

4 жыл бұрын

I wish they did also and was very surprised the gen4 didn't. I've added my own LED and have very good light out put. I could always add the axillary light which is slick and no other manufacturer offers.

@bedlambikes

4 жыл бұрын

LED headlights, a windshield, a storage bag, enclosed toe holds, and much better gauges. Oh, and ANYTHING but just yellow and black year after year....

@PartTimeYooper

4 жыл бұрын

Because they know their buyers are dumb enough and willing to drop the extra $500 to upgrade something that should be standard on $16k toy. Like windshields, hand guards, etc...

@dirttraxtv

4 жыл бұрын

Good call Josh, I didn't think about that during this. The Polaris headlight is pretty incredible from the factory. Thanks for the comment and watching!

Great review of two awesome snowmobiles...well done. For many years I’ve thought the fit and finish and engine tech in the Ski Doo is top of the line, but the suspension on the Polaris and overall fun factor of the whole snowmobile package continues to make me prefer to ride Polaris. Thanks for the honest review and I chose XCR!

Great Review. I just got a Polaris XCR and am loving it. I ride with a lot of Ski Doo people too - and love there products as well. One thing not covered in your review that myself and my ski doo buddies agree on is the omission of a pull start by ski doo. You can add it if you want but at this price point it should be standard. We had two sleds both have electrical issues with there doos. While these things happen to any brand, Ski doo trying to improve profits by $160 dollars and omitt a pull start is just plain stupid. Even if my battery goes dead I can still start my sled. If my friends case its was a failed starter and a failed cellinoid on the other. They both got out a rope and after 20 minutes got them started - dangerously - by wrapping the rope around the clutch and pulling the cord. Then they have to put the safety shield back on while the sled is running. Why do this in a sled at this price point and level. For that reason alone I will stick with Polaris until Ski Doo wises up and makes the pull start standard equipment on every sled.

@dougmaloney872

3 жыл бұрын

I have pull cord on my ski doo... Mxz 600 '02 that is, now I just need elect start/reverse :-)

@kevindailey5778

3 ай бұрын

1000% right. Just like not putting some rear storage on the back. It seems like Ski Doo intenitionally designs their sleds doing this to pad their bottom line. They make really nice accessories, but you sure pay for them.

Two things to know: when turbochargers were first used on over-the-road trucks for the mountains, they were referred to as "altitude compensators"! And, I'm SURE all the turbo model sleds will be gobbled up, no matter what price! REALLY NICE review, sir!

So...Polaris all around, but with the Ski-Doo fit and finish. Also agree with seeing all of the labeling and such, that's one of the reasons I also ride supersport bikes...all that cool tech.

Ski doo all the way

I've always had skidoo and I'm in the process of considering to buy new. And might be leaning toward polaris. Already rode a G4 mxzx 600 etec and it's a solid machine. As far as the back and forth adjustability goes it's great for double riding. I can sit all the way forward with a passenger on the back and the all the way forward position handles that seat positioning well and is actually fairly comfortable. I can say the same about all the way back for when you're riding with a kid in front of you it gives you that extra little bit to give a comfortable ride. As far as deciding what brand I'll go with I still have no idea lol.

I like the Indy bc I love Polaris

Nice review

good review I solved the heavy steering on my doo with snow trackers

@mmmkay7729

4 жыл бұрын

@@ES-pr8bt its like adding power steering lol I got the semi agressive

I have the 2019 summit sp 850 154 I like it I'm still trying to get use to the T-m though

If you want lighter, less positive steering on the skidoo, lengthen the limiter strap one hole. Simple, it will then be lighter, less assured, more slippery.

Having ridden skidoos for 25 years and moving to Polaris axys I'd say he is spot on. On everything.

Totally disagree about the branding. I'll rep their logo if they give me a discount for advertising for them. Would rather have a clean sled with only stickers that I put on there.

@tlh001

4 жыл бұрын

I totally agree, Matt. Don’t clutter my hood. I don’t even like putting registration stickers and trail permits on mine.

@carmichaelmoritz8662

4 жыл бұрын

@@tlh001 exactly . advertising on anything and i want to get paid for it , just dont put it on my product .

@kennethbullock5553

4 жыл бұрын

Easy enough, just buy the sled you want and then wrap it in any color you want,and sticker away 😉 with vinal wrap getting cheaper, and yet when the time comes to sell it,unwrap, and it's good as new 👍

@dirttraxtv

4 жыл бұрын

Everyones entitled to their opinion. I still prefer knowing the cool branded parts that are included on the sled/ATV/SXS/Truck or whatever. Thanks for watching.

@mikeh4053

4 жыл бұрын

@@dirttraxtv how many accounts your need!??!

I agree 100% on the steering, my 900 Turbo is brutally hard to steer when turning going slow.

Both are great choices.

Great review AJ, been on Doo for a bit now but would love to try the new Polaris with the conventional rear skid. I agree with the front end being heavy feeling but its a love/hate for me, I'd take the gauge from the Polaris, maybe the front end as well, but its tough to beat all the Linq accessories and I'll keep my KYB's!

@Qship62

4 жыл бұрын

I added a Linq adapter from Up North Technologies to my 2019 Indy XC because I wanted to put the Linq 3.8 gal fuel tank on the sled for remote rides. They have 1 and 2 position adapters. If you get one make sure it's designed for the Indy or it won't fit properly as I found out the hard way.

That handlebar function I had that one my fusion

I'll Take the popo sled with the rear off the ski- doo that GPS and windshield r a must there freaking sweet sleds tho

I love my Arctic Cats, but I can definitely see a quality difference between these two and my sled. Granted the price difference is significant also.

@bedlambikes

4 жыл бұрын

bergerone3 same here, and Cats have soul. My last 3 Ski Doos...they all ride like a Toyota Camry. Solid and refined, but more of an appliance than anything. My new Cat just has a fun factor that’s quite difficult to describe, with its quirks and all.

Gotta love AJ's walk arounds....go something like this....."blah blah blah blah, cough...sniff...blah blah blah, cough...sniff...repeat.

@nsa6790

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t forget the awkward hand motions and pointing!

@hassanaugust6530

3 жыл бұрын

i realize I am kind of randomly asking but does anybody know of a good place to stream newly released movies online ?

@ismaelalessandro7408

3 жыл бұрын

@Hassan August Lately I have been using FlixZone. You can find it on google :)

@yehudanehemiah6310

3 жыл бұрын

@Ismael Alessandro Yup, have been watching on flixzone for months myself :D

@hassanaugust6530

3 жыл бұрын

@Ismael Alessandro thanks, I went there and it seems like a nice service :) Appreciate it!!

I’d like to see AJ do a review of the Renegade or Renegade X. I know they’re basically just considered trail sleds now and on trail crossovers are normal to be 144+, but I’d be interested to see what he had to say about using basically the original 137 crossover sled as a crossover now in light of all longer tracks, instead of only seeing the ReneXRS and it being reviewed in the trial review format by Mark!

@carmichaelmoritz8662

4 жыл бұрын

well if he can make a dollar doing it , he will . its all about the money for most people . some people have plenty and still want more . greedy buggers eh .

@snowtrax

4 жыл бұрын

@@carmichaelmoritz8662 If I'm being honest I don't do this for free, I wouldn't have the time to have another job and do everything we do with DirtTrax and SnowTrax. Well not and stay married lol. Yeah we do get paid a little bit from youTube for these video's but the walk arounds are just because we get folks asking for them in emails, at trade shows and when we stop for lunch at the local sled stop. We strive to produce great content for Network television and KZread and provide for our families in doing so. Thanks for watching. ~AJ

@snowtrax

4 жыл бұрын

I believe I have a Renegade XRS out in the stable, but I don't think I have just an X. Let me see what I can do for ya! Thanks for watching and for the suggestion ~AJ

@lindenmattie2023

4 жыл бұрын

SnowTrax Television awesome man, thanks! Ignore the Naysayers round here man. If you’re able to provide the info and entertainment you do to us, and make a living at it - that’s win win! I hope you guys can make a fortune at it, so long as ya keep it up! Cheers!

@carmichaelmoritz8662

4 жыл бұрын

@@snowtrax fair enough :)) its still some amount of greed that motivates most people into doing the things they do . just saying .

Looking forward to 2023 sled comparison.

The Polaris has yes a lighter front end and a built in GPS, but I would prefer to have better fit and finish in the Doo with a higher tech motor than the Polaris. Just my .02

@tlh001

4 жыл бұрын

I love my ‘19 Renegade XRS 850 motor. I haven’t ridden the Poo 850, but have friends with Poo 800s and they are great too. My 850 uses a little more oil than my ‘12 800 e-tec, but mileage is about the same - crazy good. I did several 100 mile runs on groomers and still had 3.5gal left. And with my 3 gal. jerry can, my useful range is way over 150 miles. naturally, it sucks a little more fuel off trail.

@krisi.2011

4 жыл бұрын

That's what she said !

@caseymaxwell7645

4 жыл бұрын

100 percent right on the fit and finish of skidoo is top of line sit on a Polaris feels like the controls are a kids toy

@supermotohooligans91

4 жыл бұрын

Casey Harte-maxwell it is a kids toy 😂 it’s like comparing a BMW M5 to a Honda Civic.

@PartTimeYooper

4 жыл бұрын

@@supermotohooligans91 so its the fit and finish of the M5 that makes it an adult toy? Now if you said M5 to a Camaro or a Challenger, we might be getting somewhere but I'd still tell you the Japanese $ for $ have better fit and finish.

Skidoo all the way

I’m split. I love both brands for different reasons. Lol. Skidoo’s are better technology in the engine and clutches. Skidoo’s have better fit and finish and rear suspension. Polaris has the best front end period. I know because I have one. I love that gauge package and the bag you get with the Polaris. I’m hoping to get a test ride on both this year and snow check one or the other in the spring. Definitely going 137 inch skid. I’ll never go back to a shorter skid again. I’m also interested in the two crossover units in 144 and 146. Great content guys. Keep it coming.

I've been on the fence about a brand switch. I already have all ski doo gear. I think this video was enough to go for the Polaris. Plus I live in Minnesota, the home of Polaris. I probably needed new gear anyhow. Nice review

@JeepCherokeeful

3 жыл бұрын

I made the mistake of buying “branded” gear, and it was Yamaha! Sorry, but until they fix their mistakes and build a decent sled, never again. Gear has been sold too;) I love Yamaha motorcycles but sleds? They dumped the 2 stroke and destroyed that market

That gauge package def sets the Polaris apart. Plus the storage. I’ve been a skidoo guy my whole life.

@dirttraxtv

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment Brian, we appreciate it. Your unbiased view is nice to see, have a great winter!

I agree 100% with Matt France... I would also rather have a clean sled without logo's on it and if I want logo's I'll buy stickers and put them on myself. SnowTrax has become so slighted toward Polaris products it not even funny anymore. I own both a Polaris and a Ski-Doo and both have pro's and con's, but when you listen to SnowTrax it is SOOOOO obvious they LOVE Polaris products. SnowTrax Ski-Doo negatives: Motor not as linear, Front end too heavy, TS Skis, Adjustable Handlebars, no "included" storage, no branding, gauge package, steering effort etc. SnowTax Polaris negatives: Easier to adjust suspension. Plus they promoted (defended) Polaris on their 850 engines that blew up, so much so they said "I would consider blowing up my engine to get free stuff from Polaris??? Also defended Polaris with now having an Ice Ripper track and clearly stating this is no longer an advantage for Ski-Doo, more underhanded negativity towards Ski-Doo... So, I took my 2018 Ski-Doo MXZ XRS 850 to Accelerated Technologies and everything stated in this video related to the Ski-Doo front end handling / suspension is totally incorrect according the the "suspension experts" at Accelerated. The issue with the Ski-Doo XRS is not the front end weight at all, the issue with the front end is it's too high and needs to be lowered. This was achieved by Accelerated tightening the limited strap by (3) holes which lowered the front end until the front A-Arms are parallel (level) with the ground. Once this was done, the XRS actually handles better than my Polaris. However, I agree "out of the box" the Polaris is a much better handling sled for sure! The gauge package is an obvious advantage for Polaris, this is a no-brainer... But for SnowTrax to defend the Polaris non-adjustable handle bars, this is absolutely ridiculous and for me makes is SOOO obvious that SnowTrax defends and favors Polaris products vs. Ski-Doo. I have NEVER met anyone who didn't like or prefer the Ski-Doo adjustable handle bars vs. any brand non-adjustable bars except for SnowTrax... For me, I have been seeing this reoccurring pattern now for the last 2-3yrs and I am now done with watching SnowTrax. I watch these shows (SnowTrax, Snowmobile TV) so I can learn and get credible knowledge on what is a better product. But SnowTrax shows way too much favoritism towards the Polaris brand and therefore I no longer trust or feel I can count on their weighted reviews and opinions. PS - I love Polaris products, I am a neutral fan... It's just become "embarrassingly" obvious SnowTrax is "in bed" and favors Polaris products. And also, I am not the only one that share this opinion... Signed, A true snowmobile enthusiast / fan...

@joddaley6510

3 жыл бұрын

Wow you worked really hard on that little story.

SnowTrax TV Great review. Could you do a video on - Horsepower of the sleds and Drag race see who the top dogs are.

@4220zuke

3 жыл бұрын

I weigh 270 on a 2020 skidoo mxz 850 vs my friend's polaris 850 indy. He goes about 190...dead even up to about 50mph and i walked him on the top end by about 3 sled lengths

MXZ🤤

@royotton5787

4 жыл бұрын

850😍🤩

How about something on the Cat RXC? it's got a completely different setup than the RR...different skid, seat, clutch setup, driveline, suspension calibration, etc.

I prefer the polaris. that sled is amazing, i think the shock package is like pretty much top of the line, it rises smooth and you can zip. i’ve never really rode too much of skidoo, but i am a biast polaris rider haha

No doubt i would take the xcr. For now my old school 05 700 xc sp and my 80 txl will doo.

good hard to be unbiased overview of the stock package - we know ya love the Polaris, and well I like Skidoo at the moment, no harm no foul... I think another way of viewing the lack of sponsorship all over the sled is that Doo has done that before, so a change of marketing, and allowing the style of the machine and clean lines speak itself; allowing the owner to customize themselves. The accessories / aftermarket (especially ski-doo branded) is such a huge $$ market (driven by customer want/demand) so I think from a business and customer satisfaction point of view, I don't find harm in their approach - customer gets to customize because they want to personalize (win) and Skidoo gets to sell them more, most likely doo branded, accessories. (win) - they do have some really cool products, and any of them are well known brands. I agree that Polaris has a better stock feature gauge, however, I'll take a little lack of feature and quickness with the option to add a fully functional LARGE screen GPS that's portable between toys vs. a laggy, small display. Rider position: quick adjust fore=aft (position) and riser should be standard on both sleds in this price point. -- stock bar height comparison ** height of the bars can't be your gauge, you need to compare while standing on sled, in riding position ---> Riding position comment; position of the rider relative to brake ** you need to consider sleds center of mass fore-aft + up-down, also what's best for each scenario , ass and feet tucked up in a corner, or in ramp-attack position a little farther back?...the more footwell forward space gives you options. ~I think all sleds should come with an optional 1.75" paddle from the factory...!!! having to swap a track every new sled is a pita.

@ericthompson3253

4 жыл бұрын

Jacob agreed. 1.75 inches is the sweet spot for tracks. Not gonna be tossing paddles but your gonna be better in the deep snow. And you can get 1.75 inch tracks with pre studs

Thanks for this vedjeo AJ, can't wait for more from you on these two sleds. Btw not to split atoms but "set it and forget it" is a from Ron Popeil not George Forman.

@snowtrax

4 жыл бұрын

Ron Popeil! Pitchman for GLH (Great Looking Hair). Look up the video. HIlarious.

@daveg6220

4 жыл бұрын

And the Popeil pocket fisherman, Ronco Showtime Rotisserie Oven, GLH, Ronco dehydrator etc....

What I've learned on skidoo sleds since the first gen 4 came out, they love adding one feature at a time per season. It keeps them selling sleds. My advice to anyone buying a skidoo. If there is something missing on the sled now? They will have it. Be patient and wait because you buy that sled that you can't wait for, it will have it next time. Bought my bcx and the very next year they made the same sled with an xrs and had front piggyback shocks. Huge let down

Polaris FRONT ski do rear. Lynx engine. Black & grey red highlights 1000 cc TURBO

I agree that if your buying a race inspired xrs skidoo could bring back the race sled graphics with the brand names, XPs, kyb, vforce etc, when you say throw this plastic in the garbage and give us storage the battery is right under that plastic so could be a different way to look at it as it makes the battery more accessible however storage is important.

I know you guys are sponsored by Woody's but some Bergstrom Triple points as the centre runner and just a wear bar on the outside of the Pilot 5.7's makes a world of difference. In my experience lowering the XRS in the front really changes the handling of the Ski - Doo, probably still not Polaris good but flat thru the corners.

What I took from this video is as follows: 1. Cat gives the Lester's absolutely zero. Otherwise a sled would be shown. While they might not get money as in actual cash. However, they can't deny that they are going to butter up to the ones that gives the "gift" to them. 2. Can you afford sleds or not (customers). You don't and should not get a bag on a XRS. It is a Race replica sled. That is what makes them what it is. Sure guys want them. However, buy a different sled. Those don't need an XRS. Never see those bag guys ripping. Sno x like shocks, but only run groommed trail. go figure. 3. that suspension bolt placement isn't a good guide to weight placement. bolt has everything to do with rear skid, not the front ski weight. last... to the lesters. do you like chasing clickers on polaris walker evans every 2 degree temp change on the polaris? worst shocks in the biz period. I don't pay to advertise all the brands. i'm not some early 2k era racer. that time past. thanks skidoo for not being so into yourself.

2020 mxz XRS 850 all the way

Both great sleds and they both have their pluses and minuses. I love the fit and finish of the doo but the Polaris is a nice riding machine - both are great looking sleds. One thing I hate, my buddy has the 2018 Renegade and there is no pull start. I hope his battery or starter never die. It seems stupid to me they wouldn’t put a pull start on just in case. I would hate to be 60 miles away from civilization and I can’t start the machine.

You guys gonna get a 2020 8000rr to compare this year?

I trail ride in NY and have tried a new xrs with a 600 and I own a 600 xcr so I can't comment on the 850. But chassis and suspension wise, I totally understand the appeal of the skidoo. It seems more plush and it always feels smoother to me. The Polaris isn't as comfortable but "talks to me" more. Totally rider preference though. Both are awesome. Good time to be a snowmobiler. Great video. Keep it up guys!!!

Cant go wrong with either, but IMO the SkiDoo just looks so much better... the G4 XRS body work reminds me of a snowmobile version of a hot rod! Awesome...

That Ski-Doo just looks badass.

@uplandknight5782

4 жыл бұрын

Really? Their colour schemes have to be the worst around.....and the overall shape.....meh

@joshpitts7256

4 жыл бұрын

🤦‍♂️ looks like a strung out Ostrich

@joshuavollert8519

4 жыл бұрын

Looks better than the polaris....that thing looks like one of those walkers from tremors 2 after shock

@uplandknight5782

4 жыл бұрын

@@joshuavollert8519 so sayeth the blind man lol. Looks like a seadoo

@joshpitts7256

4 жыл бұрын

@@joshuavollert8519 😂🤣 I guess the world would be very boring if everyone had the same opinion. That Skidoodle is awful looking

Great vid CHEERS

Maintenance never gets talked about on these reviews. Having had both doo and Polaris it seems Polaris helps the customer out in the owners manuals more they give you torque specs and just makes it feel easier for the customer. Ski doo always puts see dealer. This is a big deal for people switching simple things such as clutch weights or chain case fluid. Some people like working on and maintenancing their sleds themselves. As for me it was a huge deal when I switched brands Polaris makes things less complicated under the hood for people who want to do maintenance and accessorize their sleds themselves and not have to bring it to the dealer for everything.

@snowtrax

4 жыл бұрын

Great comments Rory, you're absolutely right. I'll make sure to mention more in the way of upkeep and maintenance in the future vids. We appreciate the constructive comments, thanks for watching ~AJ

Please do a 2020 skidoo expedtion extreme vs 2020 polaris titan video

Another Pro Polaris video.

Which years polaris 800 are the best engines? Durability wise

Hello. Pretty new here for this channel. I would love you guys to give gas mileage in the details. Idk if ur pinning the machines or not just a best guess on how much they use. Like will i have to gas up after how many miles going fast and slow or what ever in the likes.

can we have a Renegade X 2020 compare this year?

I am new to sleds. And have an older skidoo. But I like the Polaris trunk! 😁😁😁 I see plenty of beer storage! 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

@plymcousa3002

4 жыл бұрын

Joshua Lowe skid linq system has a ton of trunk options. Including a cooler.

@danwarn5356

4 жыл бұрын

@@plymcousa3002 Why would you need a cooler? Bud Light is perfection around 17F!

@snowmanwithahat

4 жыл бұрын

Sure, bring beer if you want, but you better be using that storage to take your cans with you. Too many assholes are leaving cans laying around the trails at the end of the season

@tlh001

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with Matt France, better yet, leave you beer at the cabin til you hang up the key for the day. You’ll need all your faculties to hang on to these beasts! And I don’t need want to be dodging you when you’re coming at me on the trail.

The Polaris Indy XCR 850 is the sled my dad wants to get

I wanna see the cat 400 2 stroke single sled has a nice concept I think

One thing I never see with these bloated walk around (going over same points 3 or more times) is simple things like maintenance. Such as how difficult is it to adjust clutches and set belt deflection? As an owner of 3 Doo and a Viper currently and over 20 sleds lifetime, it is so much simpler to adjust a TRS clutch for temp or altitude changes to keep the engine in the sweet spot as well as belt deflection on the QRS secondary for belt life. It is these things(pioneering technologies like RER, Etec,SHOT, Rave valves) built into the sled that keeps me on Doo. GPS gauge is cool if you are have groomed trails to grandpa around on everyday. Got the rocky mountains here with vastly different conditions not only daily but hourly many times. Big shout out to Indy Mark Lester.....Great to see him still railing around. (50 plus club myself here)

@hermitrob5481

3 жыл бұрын

Your on a trail sled review bangin on about your tech knowledge of mountain sleds lol! Reeeeally impressed btw. Talk about bloated.

@deanmiller9770

3 жыл бұрын

@@hermitrob5481 I currently own 3 mountain sleds and a Renegade backcountry x...along with scores of trail sleds in the past. Might even add another sled to my bloated fleet...still won't be interested in the Lester's ramblings about the same points over and over....and less of your's Mr whack-it

@hermitrob5481

3 жыл бұрын

@@deanmiller9770 Name calling huh? A bastion of maturity I see. If I wasn't impressed before, I sure am now!

Xcr 850 I like more 😍😍😍

Can you improve the dynamics of the skidoo by moving back on the seat and riding with your arms more outstretched.

Only been on a snowmobile few times in my life. Looking to buy a sled in the future thanks for the info

@jordanlittle5391

4 жыл бұрын

Indy evo/lxt is a good choice not much deprecation and it's the cheapest model that being said you wont being doing 100mph

@Boodybandit81

4 жыл бұрын

I am over going super fast. Just some trail rides an ice fishing use.

I've been a skidoo guy since i was a kid, but that ride command from Polaris is definitely a game changer for riders that are in unfamiliar territory. And i tried out last winter riding and was amazed at the performance

@matthewjohns7220

4 жыл бұрын

Dave Laro well put. Now we just need to switch you from Pearl to Ludwig😁✌️

@MIDEVOL1

4 жыл бұрын

That isn't gonna happen. Been a dedicated pearl player for 25 years now

I’m 300 miles into my 2020 XCR Indy, I am not sold on this rear end. My 18 XCR had a much nicer rear end. I will continue you adjust but I’m wishing I had stuck with the XCR SB. (With the 850 of course).

@pyeroy6941

4 жыл бұрын

I just purchased a 2019 850 sb xcr. I had a 2015 800 pro s sb, absolutely loved the ride.

Just bought a sled today. Came down to an all black Polaris XCR and black SkiDoo MXZ TNT. Same year, same price, different sleds. IMO, the MXZ was stripped down with cheap components and the most basic shocks I've seen since a mid 2000s sled. Granted it was a TNT not an XRS. However, since the Polaris XCR was the same price as the TNT, it was an easy choice. Honesty would have bought the XRS if it wasn't around $3000 more than the XCR.

I just got a new to me Skidoo after riding a Polaris for 20 years. I could do without all the stickers on the Polaris. Unless it comes with a cheque every month. I've never been a fan on promoting something that you paid for. Car/truck/dealerships advertising is the first thing to come off my truck when I buy one. Couldn't imagine having stickers for everything. Dealer should give the consumer the choice, I'd stick the on the toolbox in the garage. I like the looks of both overall but as soon as you started talking steering and handling I was sold on the Polaris. I like the storage as well.

@snowtrax

4 жыл бұрын

Love the comment, thanks for watching and for having an open mind. Enjoy your winter and your new sled. ~AJ

when i was 12 i loved stickers so everyone knew i had whatever part or used whatever oil...but now that i am an adult i would rather the sled be clean and classy...

Most all the new features you say you like better about the polaris were on the skidoo first. Upper glove box, rear suspension, 850 motor, rider forward position, ice ripper track, did I miss any. Lighter front end may be a problem pushing in corners. Did you ride one or just read the brochure?

Great job on this video AJ. I absolutely concur 100% with you regarding Brand Names Logos and stickers on a sled etc. Heck I even have them installed on the outside and inside of my snowmobile enclosed trailer. It’s a guy thing and it doesn’t matter what brand of sled you are riding but in these two sleds comparison, Polaris did a great job at it isn’t? It’s cool to see that stuff for sure IMO.

good content, love both sleds....but as a Mopar guy I'm good on all the sticker/decal packages. Don't get me wrong, I want the good parts, but I don't need a sticker saying it's in there.