Yes it's heavier and slower than the European competition, but you know it's going to have Honda reliability, plus it's a couple of grand cheaper where I live...very tempting.

What always gets me about reviews on these types of bikes is when people complain about weight. Compared to my KTM 1290 SAR the Honda 450 is light. Compare my bike to a Harley Electra Glide and my bike is a lightweight. If most of us want to remove weight from our bikes the best thing we could do is eat a little less and exercise more. Looks like a great dual sport bike to me.

@babar69110

5 жыл бұрын

rightn that's exaclty what I started to do, rather than changing my big red pig. better loose 15 kg and exercice ! so you keep money, and best : you spend less money on food ! win win !!! :)

@TapioBlue

5 жыл бұрын

@@babar69110 I fasted for 5 days - now I'm down to 145 lbs, I think I'm good to go! When I ride my wr250r loaded with 40 lbs of gear you sure can feel it. I can only imagine the big guys at 200 lbs or over...

@Hoodyhoo2121

5 жыл бұрын

Compared to other bikes in this class- KTM 500 exc for example- its heavy. This bike makes less power than the KTM, weighs 20 lbs more and costs the same.

@anibler

5 жыл бұрын

@@Hoodyhoo2121 A new 500EXC is $11,199 and a 450L is $10,399. Both still expensive in my opinion though.

20 lbs lighter and 10 hp more than my wr250R, sounds fun for a mountain pass / desert / forest rd. explorer to me!

@alfaomegaz7439

5 жыл бұрын

It has 6 hp less than wr250r - the weight is almost the same

@crjmoto

5 жыл бұрын

@@alfaomegaz7439 Good call, wrr 295# / 30 hp, crf 289# / 42 hp. Not sure where I came up w 20# lighter...

@alfaomegaz7439

5 жыл бұрын

Look at spec crf has 25hp only vs 31 but torque is 42Nm vs 25. 25hp seems not too much for enduro. I wonder what max speed is

@alfaomegaz7439

4 жыл бұрын

@Grand Caymans anyway speed of 80-90mph is Ok for enduro, it is more important how fast you get it

@alfaomegaz7439

4 жыл бұрын

@Grand Caymans by the way had you opportunity to ride both and compare?

You guys make it sound great, and I'm sure it is. For my budget now I'll have to stick with my 06-09 gen WR450fs that can be picked up for $1500 bucks though. haha

Awesome bike and glad to see Honda finally stepping back up to the plate. But there starting to beat this bike to death and why is nobody talking about the new X!!

I put a vortex ecu and full fmf on my 450L it’s a complete different bike.

Linda moto! Quem dera se fosse vendida aqui no Brasil.

Id rather get the wr450 if I wasn't going to consider ktm. But i absolutely love my KTM 500!

The only thing bugging me is the price. Just can’t quite get over that. Otherwise, I’m ok with weight and the hp...it’s just too fucking expensive.

The best motorcycle ever made!

Which kind of tire from Mitas do you mount on the CRF?

Would the Honda 450L survive if I attempted a mediocre motorcycle jump that`s shorter than Robbie Knievel jumps ?

3:55 mark. Can you spell out the make and model tire you went with? I can't make out what your saying. Thanks

What model Mitas tires did you use?

Where was this footage filmed

So if I would get one of these, I would definitely port the head and open up the exhaust a bit so it can breathe. Then build the bottom end with a lower compression piston and then find a small turbo. Take off the heavy muffler and put on a lighter muffler and some other lightweight parts. That'll make highway stuff easier as well as for stuff requiring lots of load like a big hill or thick mud.

@jondotcom8706

2 жыл бұрын

I’d rather ride it

Which mitas tyres did they use?

My only gripe about this beaut is the cost.. no.matter how you slice it, I can't justify $11K for this bike.

@gt7500

4 жыл бұрын

I can! I Bought one!

is it possible to get one with a kick starter?

Nice video 👌

Kim I can save our life on this...as a 450 4 stroke or a 250 2 stroke

To my knowledge, you cant find a lighter dual sport for less money, nothing between 250-500 cc’s. The xt250 and wr250 are close but this is a 450 afterall.

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Linda moto 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

Still waiting for Kawasaki to drop a KDX450F and Suzuki to release the RMX450F as well !

@6226superhurricane

5 жыл бұрын

rmx450z already been and gone and kwaka has the klx450r

Makes less power than the KTM 500 exc, weighs 20 lbs more, and costs the same as the KTM. Did I get that right?

@jasminebeth5328

4 жыл бұрын

Andrew Imhof, I agree too. However, if someone is 50/50 street/dirt or even 40/60 this bike is a viable option. Someone like me on the other hand, into 90 percent dirt and as little road as possible to connect trails, real trails - single track preferably, I’ll take an EXC/TE/Beta any day. I’ll prefer to take a FX or Beta RE and do what it takes to Duel Sport it. Sometime I loving living in Az.

@gt7500

4 жыл бұрын

@weldingblaster1 Anyone honest knows that the KTM line has quality issues. The Honda is heavier because it comes with proper lights front and rear, that don't fall off after a month. It comes with a rad fan. The subframe is made to carry a bunch of weight on it, for years to come. Try putting a rear rack on the Husky! That plastic subframe will crack and fall off! Yes, it is heavier, but it'll last for years and the extra 15% performance I am losing doesn't bother me. The funny thing about h.p. is that the Husky/KTM 450's make less power than the Honda. Also, to rid these bikes of the lean fueling costs the same on the Honda as the KTM.

dunno why these dual sport bikes cosy so much compared to mx surely lights and soft springs dont cost that much more

@blixxy1320

3 жыл бұрын

Longevity

Why is it high maintenance..?

I ride my 450x and made it street legal also paid way less for the bike new compared to this. Had to pay about 20 bucks to get it street legal in my state and my bike does great on trails and tracks this is an “okay” bike from Honda but KTM has already been doing this Honda needs more time to perfect this so I won’t bother buying this model until a few years from now when they fix a lot of these flaws

@frostcycle678

4 жыл бұрын

I wasn't about to wait either! I Picked up a 2012 450x in 2014 for $5895. OTD. Plated it and been rippin' everywhere since then. Now I've added the 18 Africa Twin to my stable! Two Awesome bikes IMO!

I like it this crf450 L

The price makes it hard to justify. I can go buy a cheap used XR650L for pennies and as long as the oil was changed chances are it will run forever.

@anibler

5 жыл бұрын

The problem is the 650L is a nearly three decade old dual sport, they're not comparable. I have an 08 XR650L and it's not even close to the same league as a CRF450L.

I really don't know why all the fuss ! When KTM did this about 18 years ago !

@hrbestalkinme3690

5 жыл бұрын

KTM is just a plated dirtbike. This thing is set up to last a long time

@nothanks2994

5 жыл бұрын

@@hrbestalkinme3690 exactly thank you

@danieldeshotel5230

5 жыл бұрын

@@hrbestalkinme3690 Only problem with last a long time is the maintenance schedule.. valve adjustments every 700 miles I believe. I would rather the government allow honda to forego sound and emissions regulations and release an air cooled xr400 dualsport instead.

@danieldeshotel5230

5 жыл бұрын

Granted the 450l without regulations would be way more powerful faster etc but would still have race bike service intervals not really what I would like for a dual sport.

@kanyotamas

5 жыл бұрын

KTM didn't even know what a 350-450cc dirtbike is before they bought Husaberg. And the other thing is every KTM fanboy forget the fact that Yamaha made the yz400f in 1998.

290lb wet with 40-45hp? That’s a full 25lb heavier and 20hp less then the EXC500.

@MofosRealReviews

5 жыл бұрын

And same price

@gt7500

4 жыл бұрын

Reality sucks! The KTM/Husky 450's make LESS h.p. than the Honda. The KTM 510 c.c. motor in the EXC makes less than 3 hp more than the Honda!! Check out Dirt Rider Magazine's dyno test.

I really think a new XR650R would be better received. Unless this bike was about $7,000, there’s no reason to pick this over a Beta, KTM or Husky

@hrbestalkinme3690

5 жыл бұрын

Durability is why you get this bike. You can ride this a lot more miles before its junk

@hrbestalkinme3690

5 жыл бұрын

@@D73GT Wtf does that have to do with durability?

@narboy11

5 жыл бұрын

@@hrbestalkinme3690 Do you know anyone with FE501 or 500ECX? I have multiple friends who have had them since 2015 and 2017 and have zero problems riding them almost every day.

How is my 65hp ktm weigh less than this bike?

For $10,400 Honda won’t sell many...

@petersouthernboy6327

5 жыл бұрын

Scott - For a 2019 that’s $1,000 less than MSRP in a current model year !

Honda or KTM🤔

WR250R is a true dual sports bike.

The hype came and went for this bike reaaal fast. Too expensive and seems like it’s got a lot of problems from what I’ve heard.

Crf250l

I've had two encounters with one of these, while riding my 701 Supermoto. The first time I raced one and completely smoked it, I mean really bad. The second time I was at a red light and one went in front of me. It sounded like a sewing machine.

Bunch of broke boys commenting. This bike isn't for everyone. Go buy a used dual sport.

I still can't find any reason to buy this over the ktm. I love honda as a company and I'm not especially fond of ktm... But they'll have to drop the price to well below the orange bike to make it worth while. Unless this bike lasts a lot longer with that Honda reliability (but their dirtbikes don't..)

@juliensenft8083

5 жыл бұрын

KTM has a terrible reliabillity, in my opinion

@GladiusJon

5 жыл бұрын

@@juliensenft8083 Do you have personal experience with an unreliable KTM?

@theninja001

5 жыл бұрын

julien senft your opinion doesn’t matter, because you don’t back it up with facts.....

@PetterIvarsson

5 жыл бұрын

Agree about bad quality on 690:s atleast. About a handfull of gyus I know here in Sweden have had a lot of problems like broken gears, bad exhaust cam rollers, igniton problems and so on. The Honda costs 13.000 euro here and the 690 about 10.000.

@juliensenft8083

5 жыл бұрын

Two friends of mine had many Ktms, and they had leakage problems, broken threads, shattering in the gearbox oil. Personally I had a Beta RR 450 (ktm engine) and I also had leakage problems and a lot electrical problems

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I’ve been a Honda rider for 35 years. I have a one word response for this bike...Beta.

My 2007 ktm 450 exc has about 45 horsepower, that's a 12 year old bike with an almost 20 year old engine. I understand it's a trailbike and horsepower isn't everything but this bike is heavy as well. I don't see the point, it has barely enough horsepower to truly bomb down fire roads, and it's too heavy for tight trails. I've ridden Hondas all my life up until a year ago, and I'm sure it's reliable but still...

@mattnelson8805

5 жыл бұрын

Because emissions, they rape bikes to low power to pass them but it’s a dot legal dirtbike so it’s better than nothing

@mattnelson8805

4 жыл бұрын

Jesus Christ SuperStar look people complain no matter what, L the to me isn’t a 10000 mile road tripper like the 650l and it shouldn’t be. It’s made for quick to medium adventure ride with some gear. Honda I think did the right thing and made SOMETHING because they are usually a reactionary company. It can’t be a carb 500 because emissions, and yeah it’s heavy but the people who have bought one have lightened it up decently. For the power it’s a matter of buying a écu and done. For the fuel tank a bigger one. Literally this is a problem with near all bikes because of ride weight from the factory. Where you live it’s near trail heaven on the west us, where you can can ride on public land forever. I’m in Maine, every is private property, extremely hard to get new trails in and have sweet technical section, everything is sxs trails with foot of water, sucks. So the L for me would work good ride road find trail.

Crf 250 l. 4900€. Reliable People: Nice, how bout some more power? Honda: fine, but it's gonna cost you... TWICE THE PRICE, Absurd service intervals.

@Linkaless

5 жыл бұрын

Complaining that a race bred bike needs slightly more maintenance than a farm tractor of a bike, is like complaining your Lambo only has 2 seats. But it's worse because you're just replacing half as much oil, twice as often, and it only takes 5 minutes. But then i'm granting the 'L' is a race bike, which it isn't, it's a big stupid heavy cranked paperweight.

La musique de la moto est beaucoup + belle que la musique de merde qui accompagne la moto les rares fois où on la voit rouler !!!

Not bad if it 4500 bucks.

For that price, you can get a ktm with a bigger tank. Which is better for dual sport.

@mxgryan

5 жыл бұрын

and more problems.

@algar2003

5 жыл бұрын

Ktms have better racing components, never had problems with ktm.

@nathanf1934

5 жыл бұрын

Ktm 500exc on the road would rattle apart.

You cannot modify with power mods or tune it wtf is the point of owning it compared to all the other bikes.

Probably one of the most underwhelming bikes to come out. Way over hyped and underpowered

The 450L, Honda Australia's corporate suicide attempt. The bike no-body asked for, and the bike no-body is trading in their 450X for. Well, good bye Honda, it's been a fun ride, guess you want us all on Wr450's and KTM's now. For those of you puzzled by this, the 2019 450X isn't coming to Australia, and the 450L is a f*cken joke.

Typo title

Price is way too high IMO. You could buy a lot of motorcycle for 11k.

Not Hondac sir, its Honda

Did you forget about this kzread.info/dash/bejne/aW2MsKxtca3OYrA.html came road legal or full off road

Can you sell it to me for 2,399

Still not worth the price tag. Sorry Honda love ya but dam

Bunch of broke haters in the comments haha

@dmorgan724

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Brown -- Fuckin A!! That's my only gripe.

@petersouthernboy6327

5 жыл бұрын

For $10,400 Honda won’t sell many...

@pv2kio1991

5 жыл бұрын

Seriously, the MSRP is only about $1,000 more than a CRF450R and any other 450 moto bike for that matter. Also, it is about that much cheaper than any of it's competition. Someone who was ACTUALLY shopping for a brand new bike would have to face the facts: this is what is costs... as far as I'm concerned, they nailed it with this thing!

Average for trails and road....Honda!

get a street legal honda xr650r and call it a day.fuck this bike

Just to much money for a motorcycle to me..