More then happy with my 2019 KTM 500 EXC-F they all need a little additional love out the door, and that can get pricy depending on preference but ALL amazing machines for sure

Very emotional, few facts. For example, no mention of seat height or relative seat comfort or durability. No mention of actual weight, come on guys, gimme NUMBERS. No mention of maintenance requirements. No mention of fuel capacity or octane requirements. No mention of issues like frame tail section and whether its strong enough for luggage (these ARE dual sports!). This was not much of a comparison, just some feelings. I expected more from DBM.

@JayGee6996

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Very poor. Lots of words but hardly any substance

@2wheelsoffroad730

5 жыл бұрын

alabamatoy all the mainstream mags are like this nowadays. The motovloggers tend to give the best reviews imo

@pclarkey1988

5 жыл бұрын

I agree! I thought this was a comparison!? I want to know how much they each weigh and what Bhp they all put out and what is the top speed? I'm really pissed at this.

@ripmax333

5 жыл бұрын

alabamatoy you’re right , not that much of information , regarding seat height, the BETA is the lowest which makes it better for short riders and great value for money.

@ridemotoeveryday

5 жыл бұрын

Most of that stuff is advertised by the manufacturers, really no need to repeat it. They covered what i wanted to know. They review dirtbikes. Thats the perspective they took when assessing these bikes. They just wanted to compare the top tier dualsports on offroad riding capabilities.

Great job guys! Thanks for taking the time shoot, edit and post this! Good info here!

Over the years I've ridden Honda, Kawi, KTM, Husky, Suzuki, and Yamahas. I still own my KLX 650 special addition that I took out today for a few hours. Not trying to brag about the bikes I've owned, I just would like to very strongly stress that anyone even thinking about throwing down serious cash for one of these should really do some research and talk to actual owners, maybe even beg one of your friends to let you try his bike. I'm only putting this out there because these reviews are very general guidelines, it all depends on what works for each person. It also depends on the difficulty of the terrain you ride the most. I'm 53 years old now and can still tear it up pretty good, but I must say that sometimes I've had more fun with the smaller cc bikes on very difficult terrain because of the handling and low weight advantages over the big bikes. The smaller bikes were easier to start, store, and seemed safer because you can really whip them around and jump them higher. My KLX 650 maxes out at about 107 mph on the road, plows heavy in the front on mushy and twisty trails, and feels like its going to break in half over high jumps. None of these dual purpose bikes are true dirt bikes, but I live in a townhouse in northern NJ now with very few places to ride off road with the exception of power lines or pipe line trails that I try to make the most of before I get kicked from them too. So I kept the 650 for road to trail riding. Otherwise, smaller is better for me if I had a place to really rip it up. Just my opinion because many people are impressed by big CCs without thinking about the labor of wrangling a heavy behemoth through the hills or having to rescue that lead sled from a mud bog or deep ravine. Also keep in mind that no machine is perfect. If you break it or it doesn't start way out there, smaller is easier to push.

@johnganshow5536

3 жыл бұрын

Agree, I'm considering a Dual sport 250 or 300 at the most this spring. My road rides are short, so mostly off road. Forest roads, gas pipelines, power lines, a 250 is more than enough to have fun on. Looking at the 2021 CRF250L...

Great reveiw, lots of good info. And kuddos to beta with the smack-down. Never rode one but now id like to.

Any bike is going to put a smile on your face when you're out and about.. like mentioned below.. DRZ400 is also a great bike.. but not the same league. I love my 18 KTM 500.. but I have full respect for anyone riding anything else that gets them down the road and puts a smile on their faces. Bring on warmer temps so we can get out and rip !! Cheers from ON Canada.

Great video, really enjoyed the cinematography and approach to the review. As a Beta rider in a sea of orange this definitely bring a little vindication to my bike choice. They've been making improvements every year and make truly worthy competition to the KTMs and Huskies of the world. The more competitive brands in this market segment, the better it is for us, riders!

I've ridden the KTM, Honda and Beta. Each one has one or two issues that turn me off. The Beta has a substandard suspension. They have been ignoring an issue with the coating on the forks. Some forks are ok. Some are not. The coating wears off and contaminates the oil. I was about to buy one before I discovered this. The forks are also dangerously soft with very little progression (bottoming resistance). Put a good suspension on the Beta, and it is at the top. You can accomplish this with the Ohlins suspension option but you shouldn't have to. The RR suspension is stiffer but still subpar in comparison to the KTM and Honda. Fuel consumption is the worst of the bunch and it runs hot. However, the Beta has the smoothest engine and the most top end power. The KTM is one engine refinement away from being the top bike. It needs a heavier counterbalancer. The 500 KTM and Husky engine vibrations are an absolute deal killer for me. It's really that bad, and few reviewers even mention it. Very fatiguing. My hands go numb in 5 minutes on the KTM. KTM fixed this issue on the two strokes, and now they can't sell them any faster. Fix that issue, and the KTM or Husky 500 will be my next bike. Better fuel mileage and suspension than the Beta. Featherweight compared to the Honda. Top offroad performance and best fuel economy. The review on the Honda is spot on. Lower the weight and correct the low speed fueling issue and you have the winner. I expect that Honda will fix the latter but not the weight. They will still sell a lot of them because many dual sport guys don't care about top notch offroad performance, therefore very few of them would even notice the weight. They care more about low maintenance, and Honda has the best reputation. The engine has some vibration that the Beta doesn't. Suspension is the best of the bunch. The Husky 450 needs a few more HP and smoother engine (redesigned counterbalancer).

I've had three 450x bikes. They transform from a well mannered motorcycle to a trail ripping monster by opening the air box, uncorking the exhaust, swapping in the 450R needle/jets and snipping the pink wire. Mild to wild. Better throttle response and a decent weight reduction. I cant help but think the dual sport has this ability.

Love the Beta, their 500 will be my next bike but I am thoroughly ready for a plastics update. Yearly sticker change just isn't sufficient after 6 years.

My 2014 ktm 500 is performing flawlessly at around 400 hours. No complaints or problems. I ride mostly tough single track in Colorado with some street miles as well. People are concerned about maintenance intervals but if your not racing the baja 1000 you don't need to replace top ends at the ridiculous recommended 30 hours or whatever they state. I got well over 300 hours before doing mine and it could have gone a little more.

"We're going to test these "DUAL SPORT" bikes but at the end we're not going to take any account of how they perform as dual sport, nah, were just going to judge them as pure off-roaders". Doesn't make much sense.

@michelwaynejimenez9946

4 жыл бұрын

aussie sam everide has the best true dual sport reviews

Videos like this always tempt me to purchase a new bike.

There was mention that they all have similar top speeds and maybe I missed it but what was the top speed?

I bought a exc 500 back in August of 2019 and I absolutely love it. Couldn’t ask for anything better in my opinion.

Remember when a 1997 Yamaha Yz250J weighed in at 214lbs !?!? That bike ran all day long for YEARS and now they weigh a ton.

FINALLY you admit the beta IS the best. I have a 2017 beta 500rr-s and LOVE it. I changed the fuel tank to a 3 gallon also added a fmf power bomb head pipe, factory muffler, reflashed ecm for head pipe and smog delete = you better be hanging on. :)

@randytobin226

5 жыл бұрын

You beta be hanging on*

I was interested in the 450L but here in Norway it is priced similar to the 701 enduro which has much more hp and similar weight. Goes without saying, I went for the Husky.

Some good info and footage here also it's nice to hear Marlin found a job reviewing bikes after finding nemo

Very well done review and great filming/editing. The slow-mo was fantastic!

All of these bikes are just amazing the level of performance these days. I chose the Honda for the long run figured parts maintenance will pay off, plus don't race don't plan too.

@samtoshner8002

5 жыл бұрын

You'll probably get a smoother, quieter ride. A lot of folks moaned about its weight when the specs were released, but hey, that weight came from somewhere, and it turns out a lot of it was vibration dampening materials. Worth it IMO for a dual sport.

@codenamenoob4973

5 жыл бұрын

KTM and Husky are getting ahead in the reliability department in my opinion, they develop and upgrade their bikes far more often than the Japanese 4. Also for off-road the hydraulic clutch is unbeatable, I've heard that nonsense about "oh I don't like the feel" that's just silly, a hydraulic clutch lasts far longer, has a lighter pull and above all its consistent as in they don't change as the bike and clutch warms up while cable operated will

@jeffreybonifield732

4 жыл бұрын

@@codenamenoob4973 nobody races these models. They are designed for road and street

Make your own bad ass dual sport like I did with a 2019 Yamaha YZ450FX, 256 lbs, no emissions corking bs and *RIPS* off the line harder than my cbr1000rr!! Easy to make street legal (in Ohio) and you can tune the bike with your smartphone! $9,000 OTD!!

Why not the FE501?

Excellent video. Much better than the majority of the videos I’ve seen on any of these bikes. It gets old listening to reviewers drone on about vibration and “harsh” suspension. I was unaware that a capable off-road machine is also supposed to be as comfortable and quiet as your Toyota Camry. Nobody in history has ever bought a KTM 500 or anything similar because it’s “comfy” cheap and a great commuter.... If you want a cheap comfy commuter that goes off-road, buy a TW200.

That repetitive guitar riff is super annoying. The Honda is very smooth on pavement. Surprised he didn’t mention that. Doesn’t vibrate. It also has a proper aluminum tail section. The Husky will eat it’s plate and turn signals in a half day on the trail.

@samtoshner8002

5 жыл бұрын

Well they're Dirtbike magazine, not surprising they didn't factor on road performance much.

Talking about Dual Port, how would you compare KTM EXC250F, EXC500F, and 690Enduro R ?

Have you tested the SWM 500 dual sport yet? It looks legit to me but no dealer network in US yet.

What Mitas tires did they put on the crf450L. I’m looking for the best option for 95% off road. I’ll deal with loud road behavior as long as they aren’t completely sketchy

Is there a Ktm to compair the 450 husky with? What did husky set the price to? Are they normaly more expensive than the Ktm ?

@user-bg2vp9tv3r

5 жыл бұрын

All of your questions are answered in the video.

My question is what bike do you believe would be best for the TAT ride and the Continental divide trail... sounds like HONDA but please do answer back.

Which model of Mitas did you use? Is that the most aggressive DOT approved tire? Thanks!

Can you properly lean your bike and take corners on the road with dual sport tires ?

We're lucking to have so much choice and such capable bikes that can be ridden hard off road and are reasonably capable getting down the road. Slight variances in each will ensure there is something for everyone. Love my 500. Dumped the end cap screen off the muffle, added a bit of volts to the TPS and removed the evap canister oh and added a LED bulb. My bike hits much harder than a stock bike and cost nothing to make a few "corrections". 400 hrs in it runs like a champ on the all original motor. Maintenance is a breeze, which leaves me puzzled when people say …"yeah but the maintenance…." lol

Which specific model of Mitas tires did you guys use for the test?

@enroscado

5 жыл бұрын

+1, I'd like to know that too. Anybody?

Can any of these handle 75mph highway trips of 15miles to work daily? Or should I go larger like a dr650 or KTM 790?

@steelmilkjug

Жыл бұрын

@Thanatos I bought a like new used DR650 for $3800. It was a blast for years. But a cop totalled it, now I have a Triumph Scrambler 1200. Nicer but not anymore fun.

I am still pegging my hopes on the rumour that the Big K will launch a middleweight dual-sport soon (been hearing this rumour for 6 months!). All these bikes were incredible and you did a great job here. Thanks.

@chrislivingston9886

5 жыл бұрын

By Middleweight, do you mean 690 Enduro R, or 790 Adventure R?

@dhsbetterknownasthedeptofh3117

5 жыл бұрын

How do you like living in the Philippines? What city or town do you live in?

What’s the price on the husky? Is there a comparative KTM model?

Can someone tell me which mitas tires were used here?

And the HVA 701 'Enduro' and KTM 690 'Enduro-R'? Too heavy and powerful for dual-purpose uses?

Is the exc rally a dual sport? As far as I know they are enduro bikes, oil change, valve check and piston change mut me done as frequent as an endure race bike.... or is there another version of it??? If there is please tell me

Was the 690 not available at the time of this or was there a reason you left it out?

Great video. Would have liked to have seen some on road testing but overall love the videos. Cheers

The Beta is the most powerful because they're small enough to not have to deal with EPA restrictions. Uncork the 500 and it will be more powerful.

Any recent middle weight shootouts/comparisons? (Ktm, beta, husky 350's) only thing I can find is from Cycle World 7 years ago lol

Any thoughts on riding these on the street to connect trails that are farther apart? Concerned about not having a cush drive to protect the output shaft.

@2wheelsoffroad730

5 жыл бұрын

Christopher Barnickel i know KTMs have rubber dampers on the clutch hub so you might be able to get away with those. I haven’t heard people have problems with it so it’s probably fine. Not sure about the other bikes.

@jameszanghi3564

5 жыл бұрын

450l has rubber dampers for the rear sprocket. Also has foam filled rear swing arm for reduced vibration

I think I’ll just stick with my $2300 6000 mile drz. Save the $8000

@bigshnitzeljesse

5 жыл бұрын

Good bike but not in the same league in off-road performance

@bryankennedy4408

5 жыл бұрын

Great decision 👍

@woodsrider117

5 жыл бұрын

For some reason there’s a ton of Beta street legal riders that had a drz 400 before.

@MrDposter

5 жыл бұрын

I'm there with ya....I'll never give up my WR250R....not a powerhouse but still fun and very low maintenance

@marcg3923

5 жыл бұрын

grow up. my race bicycle costed me 3300 USD, this is a motorcycle

Would be great if you mentioned these bike are oil air cooled or liquid

2:10 "it's weight, also little incredible. It's heavy." ...well I am sold

But how many rear lights were harmed in the making of this vid? Did any just snap off?

Got a review of the 150/300s for '19? (Who has $10-11k?)

What about the Christini AWD 450 dual sport?

@bigshnitzeljesse

5 жыл бұрын

Aint nobody got time fo dat!

I had a drz400sm which I hated. The thing had no power. Does anybody have a good comparison between the drz and the crf? I'm guessing an additional 5hp which is not good enough.

@codenamenoob4973

5 жыл бұрын

KTM and Husky are the ones to look at, amazing power and the reliability is outstanding

Why did you use the ktm 500 and not the husky 501? I think people really wanna see what the 501 can do.

Great review. Unbiased and thorough. Coming from a 501 owner.

@tylert69goat

5 жыл бұрын

Hello fellow 501 owner. Any problems yet? I've had a new slave and instrument cluster under warranty. Have you noticed it vibrates less if you hold the front brake at a stop? And do you also have the clutch noise in neutral until the clutch is applied?

Beta absolutely DOES make 4 stroke dirt bikes, they're the racing RR models. They're more of an enduro, but the 4 models he states are the RR-S, which are street legal off the showroom floor.

@painmagnet1

5 жыл бұрын

The RR bikes are identical to the RR-S. The RR-S has lights, a fan and a plate, that's it. Every other component interchanges.

@euphorick66

5 жыл бұрын

@@painmagnet1 actually, there are some other differences. But mostly they're accessory differences. I know for certain on the 2T models there's a secondary injection, and I'm relatively sure that the 4T RRs have hotter mapping. I was talking with a beta factory rep on March 2nd at their Demo. (which was AWESOME, I got to ride EVERY bike in their off road lineup.)

@vapemed

5 жыл бұрын

I have a 2019 300rr fully street legal in Australia off the shelf. Wepon of a bike super happy

No insight into why the Honda is heavier? Trade off for durability in places?

@rainforestridersau7865

5 жыл бұрын

the Honda is built stronger than all the other bikes reviewed, did you notice how the number plates where flopping around on all the euro bikes? the Honda doesn't , the Honda can be made much lighter too for example the muffler alone weighs about 14pounds !!

Why you didn't you go with the Husqvarna 501?

Badass video, just fun to watch all the bikes rippin.

I know you cannot ride your bike on the road but to be honest at 11K I’d rather buy a full fledged dirt bike and still have 2 grand left over to accessorize. I really like the dual sport category but under 7 grand. WR250R and the CRF250L. Sure they might not be the same caliber but both under 6 grand.

Wow great review and iam happy you didient pick a mainstream brand. Go italy

Kinda sad you guys weren't able to run the Yamaha and the Kawasaki dual sport bikes to compare also! But sweet video for sure

Can we see a similar video for 250s?

I wonder how the 2020 beta compares to the 2019. I hear the 2020 betas are much improved.

Nice review of these great bikes which are to quite a degree completely different here in the UK. The Honda being very expensive and strangled with close to half the bhp of its American counterpart. The KTM being the big dog very powerful and light. The Husqvarna built with a very high spec like a six days KTM and the little known Beta we’re more use to seeing the X Trainner on the trails instead of Beta big banger

@Motoloen

5 жыл бұрын

yeah dont know why the european 450l is only making 25 hp, the same as the 250. but it must be possible to achieve 40+ with a tune right?

@gnarlybadger690

5 жыл бұрын

@@Motoloen I think it will be possible but will need a remap of the ecu, maybe a power commander unit will be available soon if there's enough interest in the Honda may also need an airbox mod and of course a free' er flowing exhaust which of course means more noise

Great review and fantastic footage. Well done.

CAUGH CAUGH xr650 with aluminum fraim and mapping?

Would be nice to see an AJP included in the comparison test.

@woodsrider117

5 жыл бұрын

tramagacity ajp doesnt have a 50 state street legal though right? And not a 450.. xr 200 type bikes right?

What about the yamaha yz450?

@Navaho66

5 жыл бұрын

I know that your joking but I asked myself a similar question. What about a street-legal 450FX or a CRF450X. If you want a high performance dual sport, and you're not afraid of oil changes and bike maintenance, there are ways to make these offroad bikes legal. It takes a little effort but it is really easy. I plated a 2019 YZ450FX. Geared it for dual sport, added a comfort seat, spark arrestor and adjusted the mapping to tame it down. Fantastic dual sport bike for 90:10 Off/On! It would not surprise me if Yamaha produces something similar to the 450L in the next year or two. Their WR450F is street-legal in other countries.

I absolutely LOVE my 2018 Beta 430 RR-S! The bike just rips!!

Can you re-map and bypass the carbon box?? On any of these bikes. I was able to have a ktm 4 stroke that I owned bypassed and remapped

@SkylarRace

5 жыл бұрын

Yes removing emissions components combined with aftermarket exhaust and re-map results in huge power gains for the KTM and Husky.

@mke7876

5 жыл бұрын

S Race will dealers be willing?? I had a dealer mechanic do that work on the side

Comparison please. Beta makes a 350, 390, 430 and a 500 RR-S all very close in price? Which motor is better in what situation? I grew up in the dirt but now I ride a Raider. Hoping my next ride a Beta? I miss the dirt.

@curtismoss451

5 жыл бұрын

i ripped a 390 at a demo days. blew my mind. me coming off a 530 exc

@kylehart1672

5 жыл бұрын

All the different sizes are like $100 more as you go up, but all feel completely different with different characteristics... i.e. bore vs stroke- the 350 and 430 are revvy, the 390 is a tractor! (Long stroke) Pretty genius the way they have set up their 4 stroke engine lineup

I love the DRZ and plan on getting one but I don't think it should have been in this shootout. I do, however, think the title should be changed because those are pretty much enduro race bikes, that happen to be street legal.

Great review but I prefer the sound of the bikes more than the annoying repeting music. I have long been waiting for the Honda but here in Sweden it costs 13.000 Eur (13949,00 dollar) so the interest in that bike died for me directly.

@DB-sd3cw

5 жыл бұрын

How come Sweden has fallen to feminism and Islam? You yourself look like your testosterone is at 150

@lolbr3720

5 жыл бұрын

Petter Ivarsson, They have priced themselves out of the market...

@jaypuck6912

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's way too much money for a HEAVY 450 with a small tank. I'd do the KTM 690 for nearly the same price and about 50 lbs more weight, and none of that sissy suspension. The guy on the vid tried really hard not to use the word "soft" for the Honda's suspension.

You do know gragham jarvis only rides husky and they run linkage, so the question is how correct is your information at all.

All are very good on the offroad, I get it. But if you have to drive in the city, how do these bikes work there.

So for this "Shootout", who is the last bike standing?

I like the music. Anyone knows which track it is?

I’m guessing America doesn’t get the 450 exc-f? In Australia we do.

so nothing on the All 11 year new Yamaha WR250R?

Beta 500 RS should be here too.. and mention warranty comparison between brands too. A full year for Beta

@tenmileoutdoors2184

5 жыл бұрын

Shouldve expected a HDR comment here too!

@mineshallnotbeinfringed9676

5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely.

@A1soldiersaint

5 жыл бұрын

Beta is the most under rated brand out there. Sherco is a French knock-off KTM, Gas Gas is a joke and can never get their import network setup in the US, so that leaves KTM and the Japanese bikes. There is only one that is high quality and focuses on rideability. I don't care for the latest "race ready" products because for 2019 they stiffened the frame too much and no matter who says they are great,,, the AER forks still suck and the flywheels have been lightened to the point that they stall easy. Give me the Beta!! THe 390, the 430 or any of their 2T's are awesome.

@tacokiller101

5 жыл бұрын

2016KTM450 betas arent great either, wait until they get more popular then you will find more and more people complaining. Me and my buddy both have returned ours to the dealer for warranty work, 17 and 18s. Mines been there twice for clutch work

@woodsrider117

5 жыл бұрын

NWtrailrider Every brand has it’s good and bad points. Still just give the correct information. Whats the warranty? Ktm you get what a month or 2?? Or whatever it is it’s not even a quarter the length of Beta. Hey buy and like any bike you like. Just have correct information listed. All are good bikes. It’s just a regular thing that magazines always get wrong info when it comes to Beta. If they are wrong on reporting on Beta Id think they are wrong with honda, ktm and husky. Id check info again. It’s dumb to specificly list that Beta doesn’t make dirt only bikes. You also know you wouldnt Be covered with anything if you weren’t riding a Beta after a couple of months max... right? Oh and the 4 strokes street legal have a year warranty. The dirt only bikes have 6 months. It would be good for clarification from Honda, ktm and Husky for these bikes.

Give me the runner up... I’ll be getting a 2020

Wow! DBM has really gone down hill from when I subscribed in the early '80's!

10:38 A stock 450L makes just under 40 horsepower. A stock 500 EXC-F is closer to 55. (Both have a lot more potential than stock). The Honda has less than 3/4 the power of the KTM and weighs more, yet you say they are "very very close"?

@NorthwoodsNomad

5 жыл бұрын

Elimentus my 350 EXC-F produces 45 bhp and the 500 EXC-F is at 60 bhp. No way would I spend $10,500 on a Honda when I could be on the KTM , Husky or Beta for a few dollars more .

@bigshnitzeljesse

5 жыл бұрын

Pipe it or gut it. Honda strangles that exhaust.

@Navaho66

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, they are very close in power. According to recent dyno tests on these bikes, the Honda 450L makes 38 hp, 28 ft-lbs torque. The KTM 500 makes 41 hp, 29.5 ft-lbs torque. Both bikes were tested on the same dyno machine. Both bikes can do a lot better once you uncork them.

@JCF69700

5 жыл бұрын

In Europe the 450L is announced for 25 HP!

Can you guys do a dual sport shootout with "normal people dual sports"? Ya know...ones the average joe can go and buy for less than 6 grand.

@dustinwalker9932

5 жыл бұрын

lol no kidding

@SalamiCheeks

5 жыл бұрын

I agree that’s why I wait a few years and buy used. I love how the husky looks and it’s really growing on me but no way a I spending $10,000+ on a new dual sport. I’m looking at maybe getting a 2015-16 fe450 in couple years when I can get them for under 6k

@sapnupuas7430

5 жыл бұрын

CRF 250 l

@davebar2017

5 жыл бұрын

I just bought and have a bashan brozz 230 cc $1750 including shipping like to love it so far It seems to be an improved model over some cheaper asian bikes

@ljprep6250

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly! I'm an olde farte and am looking for some on and offroad fun. Budget: $2-6k. Would love something weighing not much more than me, @228#.

Best shootout review of these bikes yet

I have 2400miles on my CRF450L and it’s been mostly street so I switched my nobbies for a 50/50 tire

What kind of tires?

These shootouts always miss the most important aspect, will they last?

Excellent review - Thanks!

My 1991 Honda XR250L still hold up and does a great job.

Great comparison! Great job dirt bike!

I live in the pine gardens of new Jersey. So I grabbed a Suzuki v storm for some overnight camping out in the pines. The deep sand was to much for the bike and my riding skill. Mich to heavy to pick up several times a ride. =) what dual sport can I buy that will handle the deep sand carry a heavy back pack, and not have a 72 inch seat height. I am a short dude.

@Jason-ub4ui

5 жыл бұрын

Dr650

@123JumpingJacks

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jason-ub4ui thnks

Great video. Some slight mistakes, but no biggie. This is the best comparison video as of now.

I was expecting something like off-road capability comparisons, but this is pretty much like reading spec sheets plus a bit of impressions....

So...which won the shootout?

Okay, well nice rambling talk. Could have rated them in each category then added up the scores. Still don't know if the Honda was 5th place for offroad or was it the Husq? Anyway, it sounds like the Beta is the best DS in this shootout. I wonder how that stacks up against a Suzuki DRZ400S?

@HardcoreWeeaboo

4 жыл бұрын

All these bikes will be better than Drz400S by far! Only factor to get the Drz400 is if its cheaper, love for Suzuki (The bike) and if you want to less maintenance. You cant go wrong with any of these bikes, they have more power, lighter and better in every way!

Good video folks! I thought the KTM was the true winner based on it being a mas produced bike vs the beta, (more of a limited rare enigma). I personal ride a 2018 KTM 500 excf and think its the ultimate enduro/dual sport bike ever made. My last bike was a 2006 Yamaha WR450 . I rode that bike for 11 years. when I was ready to upgraded, there was no second guessing my decision to choose the ALPHA! KTM 500 excf. Happy Ridding!!

@peterhoughton1731

5 жыл бұрын

A 'limited rare enigma' ? actually Beta build world enduro championship winning machines. Which continues to take KTM's market share from under their feet. Not to mention being just about the most popular trials machine for over 2 decades.

@ryanzone3675

5 жыл бұрын

@@peterhoughton1731 there is not one Beta dealer in the entire state of California???

@peterhoughton1731

5 жыл бұрын

Really? So There's not one person up for selling a quality fun product to 1,ooos of people with an ever increasing disposable cash and more spare time than ever? In the whole state? Well I might just move to California and open one. Opps just given out a good business idea on the w.w.w.

Nice to see Vince Gillian is keeping himself busy

Klx 250?

I have a Husky FE450, absolutely great bike of everything from single track to desert racing. I only recommend it to people who plan to ride very little on the street if at all. Main reason I'd recommend either the Husky, KTM, or Beta is for access to street legal only trails, or if you want a good modern 4 stroke and want to ride year round in California. The honda seems like a better version of the DRZ, but the DRZ sucks so take that for what it is.