2017 Yamaha YZF-R6 Review | 4K

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After more than a decade, Yamaha has come out with a "new" 2017 YZF-R6. Sharing the same engine and frame as the old R6, however, what's so new about it? For starters, it's now joined the electronic age with traction control, ride modes, and ABS. Forks are borrowed from the R1, discs are bigger, and the front master cylinder is now Nissin instead of Brembo. It also comes pre-wired for an accessory quickshifter and Yamaha's data acquisition module, the Communication Control Unit (CCU).
But the most obvious change is the bodywork. Inspired by the R1, Yamaha says the R6 is the most aerodynamic production motorcycle it has ever made. So how does it perform? Here's Motorcycle.com's Troy Siahaan to tell you.
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  • @nihvl
    @nihvl7 жыл бұрын

    That track is gorgeous man can't handle but notice the greenery that's beautiful

  • @bestralagarumpoko9661

    @bestralagarumpoko9661

    7 жыл бұрын

    yep, so bumpy..

  • @jetstream01

    @jetstream01

    7 жыл бұрын

    Ryan Reid Thunderhill isn't really that bumpy at all. Was pretty smooth when I rode. But then again I'm used to Buttonwillow lol

  • @jetstream01

    @jetstream01

    7 жыл бұрын

    Gorgeous bike. It may be only a small step up, but like he said if you don't have a 600 and want one, this is the one to get.

  • @Paddyhudson
    @Paddyhudson7 жыл бұрын

    There's a point where the ceiling just cant go much higher when it comes to performance. I think the new styling looks really sharp and I'm sure most people would be really happy with how the bikes rides.

  • @aivarg016
    @aivarg0167 жыл бұрын

    I really liked how Yamaha integrated the R6 name into the tachometer reading so it goes '0, 2, 4, R6, 8, etc. Really ingenious imo. :)

  • @GoatyHerps

    @GoatyHerps

    4 жыл бұрын

    I had a 2011 and it was the same. I agree it's a neat little detail that is pretty underappreciated.

  • @raivons
    @raivons7 жыл бұрын

    for now ,i think old looks better,but at least yamaha didn't dump 600 like Honda did.

  • @MrSatian666

    @MrSatian666

    7 жыл бұрын

    Raivons R1 yeah exactly

  • @robertollagas4206

    @robertollagas4206

    7 жыл бұрын

    Raivons R1 Honda only dumped 600cc's in europe because of new CO2 emission policies and not enough people buys so why spend money to change it to pass. US still gets 600 from Honda.

  • @Jacobsmith-tj9oj

    @Jacobsmith-tj9oj

    7 жыл бұрын

    Roberto Llagas I care more about future generations getting to ride motorcycles than getting to live at 5 feet or less above present day sea level

  • @jponz85

    @jponz85

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kawi didnt either, they added more classes like the 400 and new zx250r

  • @baguettechef

    @baguettechef

    4 жыл бұрын

    It looks just so fucking pissed off

  • @ghostfire1895
    @ghostfire18957 жыл бұрын

    the track's landscape so beautiful!

  • @ahmedshawkyelshebiny
    @ahmedshawkyelshebiny7 жыл бұрын

    Proper review and great footage. Great video!

  • @billybeck8169
    @billybeck81695 жыл бұрын

    Perfect video! Can’t find better review than this

  • @samit4me
    @samit4me7 жыл бұрын

    Great review 👏 appreciate the comparison to the older bike, hopefully, this means good deals on "old bike"

  • @Fibinator2000

    @Fibinator2000

    7 жыл бұрын

    Samuel Sharpe I wanna Buy myself a R6 in 3 Years and i think that then the New R6 will cost as much as a Used R6 does now🤔

  • @sonotover
    @sonotover7 жыл бұрын

    Video quality rocks, footage is very nice, rider knows what he's talking about. Great job.

  • @TroySiahaan

    @TroySiahaan

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! We're making an effort to up our video quality. Glad you liked it.

  • @strictlyformyninja
    @strictlyformyninja7 жыл бұрын

    I would love to add this new Yamaha R6 to my stable. Looks great and I love all the electronic goodies that come with it.

  • @DMSRFNTN
    @DMSRFNTN7 жыл бұрын

    i think the title should be "old yamaha R6 wih new fairing" lol

  • @jimjames8234

    @jimjames8234

    7 жыл бұрын

    Old R6 with new fairing, forks and a bigger price tag. TC on a street tuned 600= WASTE OF MONEY!

  • @Hypersonik

    @Hypersonik

    7 жыл бұрын

    Not really. I have lost the rear end a number of times on my 600s. In the wet on tarmac seams, Donington park I got away with a highside, Sprinting your tyres are stone cold. Yes for dry weather street riders, maybe not needed.

  • @jimjames8234

    @jimjames8234

    7 жыл бұрын

    These bikes are pussy cats below 7000 revs. Keep an eye on the road surface, tire temp and wear, OH, and train your wrist. I'm just being a grump.I Hate the new crap because it can't be fixed.I don't even want know what problems with a TC system would cost to rectify. Even fuel injection kinda pisses me off. That said, I Love my 09 R6 and this one is probably great to. I just miss being able to take care of my bike myself, without spending a fortune.

  • @Hypersonik

    @Hypersonik

    7 жыл бұрын

    The thing is that they rarely go wrong. My 10 year old Nissan 350Z has TC and an internal gyro. It works so well that I had to cut a wire to turn it off :D So I'm happy with the technology because it proves itself reliable :)

  • @blue03r6

    @blue03r6

    7 жыл бұрын

    jim james theyre not bad to work on. you know there is built in diagnostic feature? it allows you to test all of the sensors, coils, injectors, relays etc via the instrument cluster.

  • @siqwithit
    @siqwithit7 жыл бұрын

    I have an 07 R6 that still looks and feels great to ride. The new updates are pretty nice though.

  • @carlmanu
    @carlmanu7 жыл бұрын

    "you can't defeat it unless you take off the fuse"... I see what you did there lol

  • @o0bananaman0o
    @o0bananaman0o7 жыл бұрын

    yamaha make the best looking bikes at the very least

  • @ManiBalajiC

    @ManiBalajiC

    7 жыл бұрын

    o0bananaman0o did you see that ugly exhaust?

  • @michaelkennedy2901

    @michaelkennedy2901

    7 жыл бұрын

    *Used to have the best looking bikes

  • @UnHoLyHooLiGaN

    @UnHoLyHooLiGaN

    7 жыл бұрын

    Mani Balaji C who keeps a stock exhaust???

  • @stephencain3467

    @stephencain3467

    7 жыл бұрын

    i personally think the s1000rr is the best looking bike but everyone has thier own opinion

  • @KrishnaKumar-jd7qu

    @KrishnaKumar-jd7qu

    7 жыл бұрын

    ducati any day..

  • @theincrediblesulk5543
    @theincrediblesulk55437 жыл бұрын

    Great review Troy loved the fact that you called it like it is, basically stick with the prev gen R6 this is just a style update

  • @TroySiahaan

    @TroySiahaan

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! The Yamaha folks aren't blind to the fact many will perceive it the same way I did. That said, the R6 is still a rad motorcycle. Adding traction control, ABS, optional quickshifter, CCU, and new styling are all cool new features, IMO.

  • @sids2012
    @sids20127 жыл бұрын

    WOW! The track never looked this green! Thank you rains :-)

  • @WheatMillington
    @WheatMillington7 жыл бұрын

    Shaving weight by lightning the tires is so bloody cheesy - so you're getting a weaker version of the same tire with less tread so that they can hit their weight goals? NOT COOL.

  • @MrSimon9100

    @MrSimon9100

    7 жыл бұрын

    tires or rims? no time to watch the vid again :P

  • @TheJalopy80

    @TheJalopy80

    7 жыл бұрын

    Simon Vuylsteke Tires

  • @hulem98
    @hulem987 жыл бұрын

    that neon green-yellow color is sick

  • @RCGJR_
    @RCGJR_5 жыл бұрын

    The 2018 matte grey... what a beauty

  • @mikeworkman1759
    @mikeworkman17597 жыл бұрын

    Good honest review! thank you

  • @rendrahutabarat914
    @rendrahutabarat9147 жыл бұрын

    great review troy

  • @hfr8343
    @hfr83437 жыл бұрын

    A triumph 675r and a ninja zx6r 636 are roughly the same price and this bike is the best bike you can buy with the features it has. If you're looking for a new 600 and you've never owned an r6 then this is THE bike to get in the middleweight class. 90% of the people complaining have probably never even thrown a leg over an r6 let alone ridden/owned one

  • @evertontoffee9763

    @evertontoffee9763

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi bit of a random question but in your opinion do you think It would be wise for me to go straight into starting out with an R6? I love the whole bike and have wanted one for ages but have no riding experience other than a 125cc scooter when I was younger

  • @festol1
    @festol17 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the 4k. 60fps next time maybe?! lol And also for the sincere review, mentioning that the '16 "old" bike remains a good option even over a "revised" new bike.

  • @titob5020
    @titob50207 жыл бұрын

    Great video... What kind of laptimes are you getting at Thunderhill? Did you run Bridgestone oem for your fast laps?

  • @aniqaiman9645
    @aniqaiman96457 жыл бұрын

    the only think i love is the speedometer look very awesome...have gear indicator..very looking forward to see on 2016 r6

  • @DoliPanjaitan
    @DoliPanjaitan7 жыл бұрын

    Horas lae Siahaan, greetings from Indonesia. Love the bike.

  • @dteal23
    @dteal237 жыл бұрын

    good honest review! what cameras are you using for this video?

  • @christrevco4532
    @christrevco45327 жыл бұрын

    Siahaan . love it XD horas lae

  • @rizkiyoist
    @rizkiyoist7 жыл бұрын

    I really really like this new body design. I've always had some problems with that eye'ey look on the 2016 model (though the 2009ish models are great).

  • @joshlewis5065
    @joshlewis50657 жыл бұрын

    The only way to make the R6 "new" and/or better is to make it crossplane firing pattern like the R1, and also make it rev to 20k RPM. Other than that, it's the same bike as the years before.

  • @LockieNZ

    @LockieNZ

    7 жыл бұрын

    20k would be nice, but at those kinds of revs, you're putting an exponential amount of stress on the engine. It wouldn't last long, provided the valves don't start bouncing before then.

  • @thegameroom7647

    @thegameroom7647

    7 жыл бұрын

    A crossplane engine wouldn't benefit a 600.

  • @mrvwbug4423

    @mrvwbug4423

    7 жыл бұрын

    The cross plane crank won't benefit a 600, it doesn't have the torque surge of a liter bike. The R1 gives up some high rpm performance for that cross plane crank, but the benefit of the smoother torque curve helps make the bike more ridable and faster for most riders (same reason for the "big bang" motors in MotoGP). The crossplane twin on the FZ-07 is a sound thing, it makes it sound like a V-twin instead of the underwhelming sound you get from something like the Ninja 650. The FZ-09 isn't different from other triples, despite Yamaha marketing hype, standard triple firing order already is fairly close to "crossplane"

  • @joshlewis5065

    @joshlewis5065

    7 жыл бұрын

    TheGameRoom well even if the crossplane won't help, it needs to change somehow besides looks or a few millimeters here and there. It's getting stale

  • @thegameroom7647

    @thegameroom7647

    7 жыл бұрын

    What could they actually do to it? Stale or not from whatever viewpoint you hold, it's already outpacing everything else in the 600cc sportbike class so nothing actually needs to change. Over the course of 06-16 they made a lot of small changes to the engine here and there but it's completely sound and does exactly what it sets out to do. There's a rather large difference between want and need, it doesn't need to change, there's absolutely no logical or rational justification for it to need a new engine. You can want a new motor in this bike but they're already pushing everything they possibly can out of a 600. Aside from introducing a 750cc displacement to the market, the R6 is perfectly sound as is.

  • @phimar15
    @phimar157 жыл бұрын

    GREAT VIDEO!

  • @oshkoshbjosh986
    @oshkoshbjosh9867 жыл бұрын

    Love that onboard cam. Wouldn't mind an onboard lap video

  • @girl600podcast
    @girl600podcast7 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful in white, so did the 09 with red seat. Made me buy one (charcoal).

  • @Simonofcalifornia
    @Simonofcalifornia7 жыл бұрын

    The bottom willows looks gorgeous due to all the rain.

  • @jatinseth8888
    @jatinseth88887 жыл бұрын

    BLACK R6 looks dope ❤️😍

  • @karlrudolf5892
    @karlrudolf58927 жыл бұрын

    For tuff streetriding, would you recommend a 600cc or a 1000cc sportbike?

  • @nazkhan9312
    @nazkhan93126 жыл бұрын

    Hi from England... Is this white colour only available in america?? I looked everywhere in UK but can't find this colour from dealers just the standard blue or black ones...

  • @vgndg2
    @vgndg27 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if the new fairings and fairing stays can bolt up to the old r6

  • @chuycoronel9876
    @chuycoronel98767 жыл бұрын

    the only thing i love about this new r6 is. that nice rear end 💛 😁

  • @14ishmeal
    @14ishmeal7 жыл бұрын

    black looks stunning

  • @dakoolguy111
    @dakoolguy1113 жыл бұрын

    How's the vibration on this bike? I have a CBR 650f and on the highway it sits between 5-8k rpm and has terrible buzz in both the foot pegs and the handlebars but especially in the bars. I find myself lifting my left hand off the handle when I can due to the almost numbing/painful vibrations, and my right elbow recently got really bad tennis elbow from riding this bike (granted I did spend a few hours on the highway in a tuck position which the clip ons are not in a good position for tucked riding). Does the R6 have bad handlebar vibration (is it just a normal sport bike thing) or is it reasonably smooth and not aggressive or painful like my cbr 650f?

  • @hali_moto
    @hali_moto7 жыл бұрын

    The cockpit view is 👌😍

  • @c0c0asauce
    @c0c0asauce7 жыл бұрын

    What are they going to change to make the engine better? While following the same rules in the same class?

  • @camz3713
    @camz37134 жыл бұрын

    So the tyres, are they available aftermarket? As you stated that they're not the standard ones you would get off the shop floor? Is the weight difference only until you need new tyres ? xD

  • @garlicpepper1334
    @garlicpepper13345 жыл бұрын

    i love what they did to the headlights

  • @romanosparks3729
    @romanosparks37297 жыл бұрын

    Love the video guys, but for everyday use is it still as uncomfortable as the old R6?

  • @steelknight1894
    @steelknight18947 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for an honest and excellent review. Last year I really hoped Yamaha would put a three cylinder engine in this new R6... I'd buy it ASAP if they did.

  • @TroySiahaan

    @TroySiahaan

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback! Yeah, a triple would have been cool. But revving the snot out of an inline-Four on track is also pretty cool.

  • @groff5890

    @groff5890

    7 жыл бұрын

    Troy Siahaan i

  • @msmejekify
    @msmejekify7 жыл бұрын

    Surprised he didn't mention the seat width difference. I've got a 2011 and I would think a narrower seat would be very noticeable

  • @andresgudino859
    @andresgudino8597 жыл бұрын

    Thunder hill does look like a nice track, buttonwillow is cool, but i need to hit thunderhill with my 2016 60th anniversary R6 :)

  • @landseverywhere2155
    @landseverywhere21556 жыл бұрын

    love the mirror lights

  • @phuongvo101
    @phuongvo1016 жыл бұрын

    just picked one up with the same color. Love it but coming from Honda Ive got to get used to this taller seat and riding position

  • @adriansy365
    @adriansy3657 жыл бұрын

    hi guys, just wondering if u guys can make a video about the 2017 yamaha yzf-r3 movistar ??? i love the looks of that r6 though :D

  • @rescuerofwheels
    @rescuerofwheels6 жыл бұрын

    From where you buy that long sleeve tees???? Please

  • @DONTHATETHEPLAYA321
    @DONTHATETHEPLAYA3217 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad I watched this, the dealership is trying to convince me to trade in my 2014 r6, and I'm not really seeing why I should trade it.....but this video says why I shouldn't trade it.....

  • @falcon7008
    @falcon70087 жыл бұрын

    I must know where you got that R3 sweatshirt/ jacket. Please halp!

  • @banggegep4408
    @banggegep44087 жыл бұрын

    mantap laek Troy

  • @DonatasPetrus
    @DonatasPetrus6 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful bike and track

  • @akashchattopadhyay8896
    @akashchattopadhyay88965 жыл бұрын

    Not only the bike the track is also very beautiful.

  • @laurentvel3325
    @laurentvel33253 жыл бұрын

    Where can i import one of these..?

  • @VjRoque7
    @VjRoque77 жыл бұрын

    will you be doing a 2017 GSXR 600/750 review?

  • @ralentinovossi8081
    @ralentinovossi80817 жыл бұрын

    How can you not be able to tell the difference considering the significant power drop from the previous model?

  • @serenitystreams8
    @serenitystreams87 жыл бұрын

    beautiful bike!

  • @ronanmarteijn1564
    @ronanmarteijn15647 жыл бұрын

    Can someone help me? I'm 17 and when i'm 18 i want to buy a bike like this one. But i'm 195 cm, and 80kg. Would that be a problem? Or should i go with the r1?

  • @tgvcfr120
    @tgvcfr1209 ай бұрын

    Which is quicker this r6 vs triumph daytona 675r?

  • @kingzpradhan7647
    @kingzpradhan76477 жыл бұрын

    did this bike will lunched in India

  • @maddumpling119
    @maddumpling1197 жыл бұрын

    I would definitely buy just for the white and lime colourway

  • @abhijitpalkar9855
    @abhijitpalkar98556 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful thing in the world 😍

  • @albertptran
    @albertptran7 жыл бұрын

    I've never wanted an R6 but i do miss the looks of the lights on the old one

  • @ChengarangHD
    @ChengarangHD7 жыл бұрын

    Where'd you get that hoodie???

  • @hueyfreeman7810
    @hueyfreeman78107 жыл бұрын

    does it have a gas gauge??

  • @Dhawz.DiscJockey
    @Dhawz.DiscJockey7 жыл бұрын

    The white one looks cool!

  • @godofwarsoham
    @godofwarsoham7 жыл бұрын

    much awaited

  • @fivespeed3026
    @fivespeed30267 жыл бұрын

    Did the new bike have a cracked display screen?

  • @evertontoffee9763
    @evertontoffee97635 жыл бұрын

    Hi i am looking to purchase my first sports bike, i have ridden a 125cc scooter when I was younger but now bieng 31 and a lot more sensible I want to go for something like the R6. Would anyone recommend me doing this or is this bike too powerful for a noob?

  • @iannsr125
    @iannsr1256 жыл бұрын

    At least yamaha are keeping the 600 class unlike every other manufacturers

  • @angelocardoc
    @angelocardoc7 жыл бұрын

    At 1:55 you mentioned reduced drag by 8%. 8% drag might make a considerable difference at hi-way speed acceleration. It would be interesting to test 2016 and 2017 rate of acceleration from 60-120. That would be proof of the 8% reduced drag.

  • @grishchenko1991
    @grishchenko19917 жыл бұрын

    Personally I wouldn't say one bike looks better than the other. They both look great in their own right, e older one has this lightning fast while standing still styling while the new one is a bit more grown up. Perhaps for the more mature rider who doesn't want to be associated with the potential hooligans in his neighborhood.

  • @HuMaiwai
    @HuMaiwai7 жыл бұрын

    Would a 600cc crossplane crankshaft engine a good idea? :-)

  • @shawoo
    @shawoo7 жыл бұрын

    Looks good

  • @StickyJalapeno
    @StickyJalapeno6 жыл бұрын

    Getting this next month in matte black

  • @d2r693
    @d2r6937 жыл бұрын

    I will keep my 2011 for now. It does look good though.

  • @valledesitin
    @valledesitin7 жыл бұрын

    I just got this bike!!!😁😁I love it

  • @nukeary4675
    @nukeary46757 жыл бұрын

    nice video man, btw Siahaan is Indonesian name, Bataknese to be precise :D

  • @snowcatxx87
    @snowcatxx877 жыл бұрын

    14k in Canada. Disappointing no TFT or IMU.

  • @lOoKyxSX
    @lOoKyxSX7 жыл бұрын

    Where is this race track?

  • @kingcrumpet
    @kingcrumpet7 жыл бұрын

    Wondering if/when we'll start to see underslung swingarms on production bikes.

  • @saigoneze4465
    @saigoneze44654 жыл бұрын

    those headlights are so sexy ! could i get this bike as my first ? ive been looking at the ninja 400 and honda cbr500

  • @sidewaysasf2003
    @sidewaysasf20036 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful

  • @bmjjj2410
    @bmjjj24107 жыл бұрын

    2017 Yamaha Yzf-R1 Review pls

  • @dolphin4788
    @dolphin47887 жыл бұрын

    anyone know how much I could get this bike for with all the bells and whistles

  • @Kickassdave

    @Kickassdave

    6 жыл бұрын

    Little Dolphin £10,499 in UK, about $12,999 US.

  • @cschnauz
    @cschnauz7 жыл бұрын

    I like it. Add ti exhaust, power commander and shitcan the bridgies for a set of Q3's

  • @triedproven9908
    @triedproven99087 жыл бұрын

    Same thing 650ib said about the front brake on his review. Honestly I don't know how the idea to change fairings and put out the same bike went through corporate yamaha. Good review BTW.

  • @Punith2827
    @Punith28277 жыл бұрын

    Nailed it.

  • @migueljorgefurtado
    @migueljorgefurtado7 жыл бұрын

    I know the track was wet, but who will run rain racing tyres on them (other then on the races)? So why not leave the stock tyres to have a real perception of the bike behaviour?

  • @TroySiahaan

    @TroySiahaan

    7 жыл бұрын

    Because we only had one day to ride the bike, rain or shine. Not a lot we can learn about the bike on a wet track with the stock rubber on - and that assumes nobody throws the bike down the road in the process. It's an unnecessary safety risk Yamaha would rather avoid. Once we get the bike in our hands for our own testing, then we can give it a proper eval with the stock rubber.

  • @migueljorgefurtado

    @migueljorgefurtado

    7 жыл бұрын

    First: Thank you so much for your answer, I've really appreciated you took the time. Second: fair enough, I understand. But the tyres are such an important part on how the bike feels and it is so common for brands to switch for better rubber on presentations on track, that it is almost like they would change for a top of the line ohlins forks and shock because "the stock units wouldn't do the bike justice on track".

  • @shanemcredmond9751

    @shanemcredmond9751

    7 жыл бұрын

    Miguel Furtado Have you ever done a track day in the wet on road tyres? its not a good idea. Rider would almost definitely take a spill. The grip from full wets is extremely good.

  • @migueljorgefurtado

    @migueljorgefurtado

    7 жыл бұрын

    In fact I did, and it was not fun (now that you mentioned it, it was a year yesterday, eheh). But I wasn't there to get to know a new machine, and tyres being such an important factor on how the bike feels make a huge difference. For an example, I have my bike for 9 years and 101 000 km, so I've used a lot of tyres, and I know that it feels sluggish turning on the Bridgestone's 014 it came stock with and the front end is like riding with numb hands, with dunlops is better turning but harsh on bad surfaces and with the michelins it's nimbler and very confidence inducing when when braking. The stock tyres should reflect how the manufacturer intended the bike to feel.

  • @dragongroupp
    @dragongroupp7 жыл бұрын

    Lol waited over a decade for the same dash well done

  • @arturo052685
    @arturo0526857 жыл бұрын

    please make a review video on the new ktm 790 duke bike.!!!! please please!!

  • @MrHitmon
    @MrHitmon7 жыл бұрын

    Oh my gosh. That track is beautiful. Where is it?

  • @TroySiahaan

    @TroySiahaan

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thunderhill Raceway in Willows, California.

  • @distilledpusswater8473
    @distilledpusswater84734 жыл бұрын

    I dont plan on getting this bike but i love R6s i have a 2001

  • @Naikerru
    @Naikerru7 жыл бұрын

    Is this a reliable and decent starter bike for a 25 year old?

  • @MrOwl1997
    @MrOwl19977 жыл бұрын

    is siahaan from bataknese?

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