2017 Subaru STI Unequal Length VS Killer B Equal Length Header Comparison | Revs, Flybys + MORE!
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Man, I can only hope my STI will sound this good one day! Congrats man such amazing progress with this car over the last couple of years!
Man the sound with UEL is so agrresive and mentak. You are making me miss my 2017 STi hopefully can get one again in the future! More power to you 🤙🏼
UEL headers is by far the best soundings on ejs for sure, having heard equals in person wide open it's just not the same imo. But when going for big power sacrifices will made, that's why I am keeping mine lower because I love the rumble so much.
Really appreciate all the time and effort for this comparison. The EL sound incredible, it's definitely something I'll look into doing. Can't get enough content of your Subie!
Bro...best sound comparison video ever. Thank. You.
It's such a hard decision on what I would want to do with my STI after this video! Thank you for the comparison my friend and keep it up! 👍🏼
I'm sold. Killer B ELH for me also. Still the hint of the rumble which we all love. I would also do it firstly for reliability and minimising heat and stress on the motor. With the added throttle response you noticed, I'm sold! Been waiting all week for your video. Thanks so much and the planning involved! Much appreciated 👍
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
Glad I was able to help in your decision! You’re making the right move.
Off topic, but I like the cinematography, pace, and presentation style of your videos. None of that overly loud, fake enthusiasm, camera-pointed-in-face vlogging nonsense that a lot of other automotive KZreadrs espouse. That's precisely why I'm subscribed to your channel, and watch and like every video. Please don't ever feel that you have to change to appeal to the masses. Keep up the great content. I'm looking forward to hearing what difference the resonated mid-pipe makes. Cheers from halfway across the globe.
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support! I always prefer looking at the cars than the person behind/in front of the camera. I will always continue to do me. That will never change! I appreciate the kind words. Cheers!
This sounds great, you can still hear that classic rumble. I’m convinced
i have a 2020 STi but hearing this, actually makes me want to go EL , sounds great 🔥
Brother your car sounds amazing with both types of exhaust. I would say the first one sounds better than the second. A great video. Stay safe man. Subies forever guys and gals. 😀
Awesome comparison video. Those EL headers definitely sound better than I expected! I thought it would sound like every other boring ol' 4cyl out there but there's still some rumble (somehow).
WOAH! I did not expect the ELH to sound like that. wooow
So simple and clean no unnecessary $h!t love it🔥🔥
I was in the same position when I did my header upgrade to my 08 sti. Originally I bought a set of aftermarket UEL headers, but my tuner convinced me to change it to EL. Honestly, the UEL of course sounds cooler, but you could really feel the difference in power with EL. You can feel the car not struggle as much. EL all the way!
@footballfan7894
2 жыл бұрын
Its amazing with the uppipe upgrade as well!! Killer b headers all the way!
I think people who haven’t heard elh’s in person prefer the opposite, but it sounds amazing. Don’t miss the uel at all after doing the same setup, but with awe touring. Don’t miss it one bit
Great video with awesome info. I appreciate it!
Ngl I'll personally always prefer the uel headers but they still sound crazy with el. Sick video man
Damn I'm impressed, usually el would make it much higher pitch but that sounds wonderful
I definitely prefer the UEL. I just upgraded to the Invidia Q300 on my STi - I prefer the deeper rumble over stock... and, to me, the rumble is better than music.
@jptothetree
2 жыл бұрын
That Q300 sounds just awesome on an STI! Not too loud and a lovely exhaust note 😍
Great comparison video. I forgot what an UEL sti sounded like.
That was the best 15 mins and 30 seconds ever
Hands down the best video comparing EL to UEL!! You really have me learning towards throwing my EL on and giving it a shot
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
You will be surprised how much better in sounds in person than my video shows.
I love the pops on the down shifts 😩
UEL hands down. Yeah equal is more efficient but I can sacrifice a little reliabity for sound. There are still tons of other mods to keep that engine running safe and happy!
Very cool, thanks for sharing these! I have a Tomei Ti Expreme which I love, but I'm worried I'll have to get rid of it once I go DP and EL header...It's already pretty loud as it is. Glad to hear you were able to get a resonator for your exhaust...Post sounds clips when you put it on!
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
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@micahgunnell
2 жыл бұрын
@@Scoobyfreak86 Ah, that sucks! Will be curious to hear how the Cobb Ti sounds with the EL header...I have a feeling it will be very quiet. I heard it in a video with a guy who had aftermarket UEL headers and a catless DP and it still wasn’t very loud. It is a good option though I think, due to the quality and lightness.
They both sound great to me, I'd be happy with either but the power gains from EL tip me towards them over the UEL.
Wow! Hearing your car makes me want to go EL👌🏻🤙🏻
Not bad. It sounds more refined but the most important thing is the added reliability of the ELH
Aftermarket UEL's make a big difference as well. Definitely a deeper bark than OEM. But EL + twin scroll is the most efficient overall. Many people overlook that. But the true twin scroll EL manifolds are 💰💰💰💰💰 and usually come in a kit.
Going to be honest, UEL will always be my particular sound! But man that EL sounds so good when you downshift! Its perfect!
Both sound great, but it really depends on the EL headers your choose because some sound meh. A good set of EL headers on the ej has a different sound to it versus other 4 cylinders IMO... Still has that deeper subaru tone. Personally, I think the UEL sounds "cooler" but it also sounds inefficient, because it is. The EL sounds more aggressive and refined. My recommendation, if you're going for big power, spool and want your engine to run as good(safe) as possible, EL all day. I do love that Subaru UEL rumble, though.
Sooo sick brother, lord have mercy.
Almost like an Evo, I will be looking to go ELH as well!
Wow simply so satisfying
Sounds good !
First time for me to say equal length those headers sound insane
They both sound good
That color flicker is 👌.. and ELH doesn’t sound too bad in the video. Would have to hear it in person but if it’s more efficient and you like it then who cares?
I have STI with Killer B headers/Q300 catback. The UEL headers will always sound more gooder and deeper signature subie rumble. However, the performance benefits of the EL headers wins for me. Great comparison ! To me , the car is far more enjoyable with the EL headers
Good audio comparison between the two. They sound so different from each other. The equal length sounds a bit more raspy and loud. Both sound really good but I do like that deeper unequal length sound. Just a personal preference. Too bad my WRX has equal length. lol Again, great vid.
@xil3ntkha0s
2 жыл бұрын
There are UEL WRX headers now. Just gotta spend that bread if you want the sound lol
I am biased as a DIT FA WRX man. I will not lie though I enjoy the ULH rumble but not at the cost of longevity. I Iove the sound of my exhaust and ELH set up and this ELH EJ set up more or less duplicates it. Welcome to the ELH alumni 👨🎓 . It has a select and small group of EJ members but all converts are welcomed 🤣 with open arms 💪💪. Our motto “ Be rumble free and enjoy 😊 increased power, longevity and reliability with your turbocharged boxer H4 seriously“ 👍
Those down shifts 😍
damn legend. An STi and a telluride. Meanwhile, i had a '17 STi, sold it for my ASCENT.
I'm sorry I just can't 😭 this takes away the iconic rumble, definitely keeping UEL on mine
The ELH with your current exhaust sounds aggressive but also death by exhaust drone.
I prefer the EL headers for Race Car but I'm nostalgic to the UEL for Subies in general. If I still had my sti I'd go with EL headers with Greddy Evo gt Exhaust cuz the sound combo would be just Right not too loud not too quiet imho.
Was looking for a WRB STI, but yours is making me reconsider. 😬
@Scoobyfreak86
Жыл бұрын
Let me know if you have any questions. Mines for sale 👍🏻
I went with the iag EL but overall my stock turbo spools faster and make a lot of difference in the power band, but of course i miss the rumble sound 🥺
Lapis Pearl Blue here from ocean county also with ELH …I’ll see you on the GSP homie
I love the EL headers - rally car sound is on point! Personally I would go quieter exhaust to get rid of the rasp but still sounds great
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
Agree! Make sure you watch towards the end of the video. Taking care of the rasp!
I don't think people know how good the equal length actually sounds until you either drive it or hear it in person. ps, it's Ultimateone from Nasioc :)
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
Agree, Jeff! One of those things you need to witness in person. Video can only do so much.
Beast!
Uel is for sure a more subaru sound. But el sounds cool to. Kinda has more of that rally rasp.
I bought the Killer B MAX VE, the update on that one is a bigher secondary runner, 2.5" ill be installing this with ETS Rotated kit and a PTE6062 Turbo, im curious how is going to perform, killer b representative told me based on their data this..."If you're going to stick at or
It all depends on your exhaust, I have equal lengths on my 06 wrx daily but a quieter setup and it sounds like butter
Man... please don't get rid of this car...
I’ve always preferred UEL headers. If I ever go high horse power I will go with EL headers
That is one nice STI
That wheel set up is spot on👌 i miss my STI. Did Subaru ever fix the EJ issues asking for a friend
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
In the type ra and the 2019+, they upgraded some internals and parts to be more durable.
@stephencarbajal5657
2 жыл бұрын
@@Scoobyfreak86 nice yea I thought I read they finally did.
Love the videos! I just got a 2021 STI base model. I don’t want to void my warranty so I’m just going to do just exhaust/headers. I’m liking the opinion on the ELH. What would be a good combo in your opinion to keep it loud w/o rasp and drone, but still really loud and beefy! I like the Delta Motor Works and AWE. The Tomei seems like its a bit too raspy? But I haven’t heard it in person.
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
Take a look at this video. The awe setup is my favorite kzread.info/dash/bejne/q6uYms6JeJC_ktI.html
what a cool dad. your girls are gonna be car gals
Elh sounds so aggressive, plus that subtle turbo whistle is nice. Cleaner power band for sure and those factory uelh look pathetic.
Should let me stop by to hear it in person. I’m probably near by in Jersey 👀
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
You can hear it on 8/21 at my meet and greet!
UEL is what makes a Sti an Sti 💪🏼
Another awesome video. Love your car still but don't like the sound personally. Has more of a Evo sound now than STI. Not getting those headers for sure.
One is clearly better than the other ;) I wonder what aftermarket un equals sound like… bit better flow than the OEMs, but sameish sound
Man i want my 19 Sti to sound like that once i go stage 3
UEL wins hands down IMO as far as sound porn. The new setup is decent though, but too rattle can sounding for my tastes. Nice comparison vid though. 🤌🏽
@tonyregalado7281
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah man, some EL headers/muffler combinations can sound a bit too rattle can-ish. It's much easier to get a nice sounding UEL setup versus the EL.
@findmeifyoucan
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.. this was the video that really made me decide to stick with my stock UEL headers. Waaaay too rattle can sounding for EL.
@lilmixdboy
Жыл бұрын
The rattle can have something to do with his downpipe choice but I'm. It sure
The rumble is still there it's just extremely high pitched
You need to remap the engine after changing headers, just to keep in mind. UEL is the sound porn so many crave for. I would stay UEL, regardless any downsides it has.
I just want an STI nice car... and I just happened to stumble upon your channel so Algorithm is working for you
I love those headlights, where can I get them for my 2017 sti? And what modifications were done to the wiring for the turn signal and removing the driving light in inner section? Also, the DRLs stay on with the wiring modification as well?
@Scoobyfreak86
5 ай бұрын
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I would say uel even tho I'm on el also . But besides that I follow your page because your car is sooooooo clean I love it . Only thing I would do is rain guards . Do you still like the idoing radio ? Ps even your motor shines lol
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
I’m not a big fan of the rain guard look. Yes still love the idoing.
Time to buy an STI
is that a raceseng shift knob, if yes, how do you like it with the kartboy shortshifter? thanks for the video you did great now if only everyone filmed like this
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
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Rumble is kinda still there .. I can’t wait for my AWE to arrive. Are you planning to install the mid pipe yourself? Also, do you have a video for the f1 light?
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
Yes I just installed the midpipe tonight. I don’t have an install video on that. One of the first things I did when I got the car. Wasn’t really making videos yet.
Nice video. Just found your channel. Car looks sick. What's the name of the rims you have?
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
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Aftermarket Performance UEL Headers are definitely louder, better sounding, and have better Hp/Tq compared to factor.
Don’t get me wrong I love the sound the UEL but ELH cause performance and just overall better for the car.
I'm strongly considering going EL on my 11 wrx
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
Highly recommend it. It’s worth it!
That dump noise at 1:41… is that the Cobb bypass valve?
@Scoobyfreak86
Жыл бұрын
No that’s from the intake
What a clean STI dude. Nice smoked windows instead of some cartoonish limo tint, no tacky rain guards or mud flaps, beautiful metallic wheels with excellent fitment, and I love the color of the calipers. I've been thinking of repainting mine a similar color, the neon green just doesn't do it for me. keeping these cars subtle is such an unappreciated approach.
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it! I’m more about the simplicity and accentuating the lines that are already there. Just improved upon to my own personal taste.
@marcoguzman7934
22 күн бұрын
whats subtle about an sti? 🤨
What wheels are you running?? They look awesome! Also coil overs. I’m trying to get a better stance
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
Wedssport tc105x and fortune auto
Looks like an STi Sounds like a FA WRX I don’t hate it 🤙🏼
do you get more pops and crackles from EL? I have a 2017 STI with UEL...cobb sf intake and ebcs, invidia catless downpipe and r400 exhaust, aem fuel pump, etc...I love the way the exhaust sounds. almost identical to yours UEL. But I get almost no pops and crackles on rev matching downshifts. Is it something you were tuned for, or is it just natural with that setup?
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
Just natural with my setup. I got a lot of gurgles and pops on downshifts.
Unequal hands down
I’m at the point with my build that EL is almost required to get my performance where I want it… but I just can’t get rid of the rumble 🥺
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
Is not for everyone, but I have to say, I have 0 regrets. It sounds fantastic after finding the right exhaust to pair with it.
Very nice! I was just wondering if I were to go ELH, would I still need to use the cylinder 4 cooling mod? And if I stayed UEL, will the cylinder 4 cooling mod make the engine reliable or will it still be not as reliable in the long term?
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
I definitely suggest the cyl 4 cooling mod either way.
@WRXMAN-ms2mm
2 жыл бұрын
When an engine has a history and a fix exists that improves reliability the fix is in definitely. Peace of mind is priceless to me.
UEL for sure.
My 2018 comes stock with equal length. No rumble 😢
EL headers surprised me. it sounds better than UEL imo
Im curious does switching to elh solve the problem with cyl 4 or is it still smart to have the cooling mod? Curious if thats a header problem or just a coolant problem bc of the ej design?
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
Both. Cyl 4 doesn’t get enough cooling to begin with so the mod is definitely worthwhile. The stock uel headers produce a ton of heat on that 2 and 4 side of the motor and causes 4 to wear prematurely. I’d advise to do both if you want to keep the motor happy and healthy.
what wheel and rim set up are you using? Looks so slick!
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
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Nice video but UEL > ELH as far as sound IMO.
What are you running for lighting? is is just the diode dynamics c lights? and what for the tails as well?
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
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I like the first better
UEL all the way. Literally the only reason I liked my Subaru. Without it just sounds like every other 4 banger
Would you recommend the cylinder 4 cooling mod if you have equal length headers or is it not needed?
@Scoobyfreak86
2 жыл бұрын
I would still do it yes
I Can Still Hear The Rumble, It’s Just More Higher Pitch And A But Smoother So It’s Harder To Hear It.