2017 Microsoft Surface Pro Review
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Lisa Gade reviews the new Surface Pro, released in June 2017. This is the successor to the Surface Pro 4, and boasts quieter, cooler and faster operation and Intel 7th generation Kaby Lake dual core CPUs. Battery life is also much better. It has the same design (with minor changes like more rounded edges and a deeper reclining kickstand) and the same basic display specs: 12.3” IPS Pixel Sense display running at 2736 × 1824, SSDs and your choice of 4, 8 or 16GB RAM. As ever, the keyboard is sold separately, and the new Signature Edition Type cover is $159 (available in a variety of colors). The basic black keyboard is $129.
The pen is no longer included, and the improved 2017 Surface Pen is $99 and offers 4,096 levels of pressure sensitivity, tilt in applications that support that feature, and lower force of initial activation. Surface Pro pricing remains unchanged. The base Intel Core m3 is $799, and our Intel Core i5 with 8GB RAM and a 256 GB SSD is $1,299. Core i7 models with Intel Iris Pro 640 graphics are available at higher prices. The Surface Pro is compatible with the Surface Dock, and it still has a charging/dock connector, 1 USB 3.0 port, 3.5mm audio and a mini DisplayPort (no USB-C).
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this woman really knows her shit. she deserves 10 times more subscribers. and she really can talk full sentences without making an annoying cut every two seconds.
@SkAtErOfLiVe
6 жыл бұрын
1.123 I can follow her so much better because she doesn’t do those annoying cuts.
@lilena765
6 жыл бұрын
The Jew lady doing this interview looks creepy as fuck.. she almost looks like a half man ..shivers..
@spwprivate
4 жыл бұрын
Be nice
This was my first time hearing and watching this person. I have never heard more eloquent tech speak in my life. I felt almost hypnotized by the beautiful fluidity of her review.
The few youtube channels that actually do "reviews", nice work!
@ukyo6195
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, now we all know: Do not buy this thing.
@hafeezhamama9580
7 жыл бұрын
Ukyō what's wrong with the Surface?
@i-am-that-what-i-am
7 жыл бұрын
Certified Shitlord has mictosoft solved the screen flickering issue of the pro 4?
@hafeezhamama9580
7 жыл бұрын
Victor Drummond never heard of it and never experienced it and I've had two devices
@i-am-that-what-i-am
7 жыл бұрын
Certified Shitlord well, there's plenty of talk about it on various forums, turns out it's a hardware issue. I've been waiting for this new SP to come out, but after researching now not so sure to take the $3300 risk.
Your content is ten times more valuable than 90% of KZread tech & review channels
Lisa, you're my favourite tech reviewer on KZread, BY FAR. Your reviews are genuine, comprehensive, extremely helpful, and usually my last stop before purchasing (or not). Thanks and keep up the good work.
As usual... another Amazing Informative Review. Thank You! I watch other reviews and never make it totally through them and Always come back to You!!!
What an absolutely wonderful and thorough review. You make me wish I had enough money to get one myself; keyboard, pen and all =( . Keep up the great work.
Another great job. I watch your videos even for products I don't care for. Keep up the good work!
For anyone here who just wants to know the battery life: around 8 hours with average use (16:59).
@DesignInNature
7 жыл бұрын
That is a little optimistic. It depends on what you mean by "Average Use". I just bought mine and I'm in the process of testing the battery life with actual continued, uninterrupted use. I'm forcing myself to type large documents and view some educational videos here and there. So far, I've been using it for 4 hours straight, and my battery is down to 44%. I guess I can expect it to give me a solid 6 hours of work, before I have to worry about data loss, due to the battery dying on me. In my case, I bought it for use in university and while I study away from home in coffee shops and the library. I have 15 days to return it for a full refund, if it does not live up to my expectations. So far, so good. If I get about 6 hours of actual use on one charge reliably, it means I can carry it in my bag all day long and still use it for several hours in the evening before having to charge it again. If so, it's definitely a keeper for me. The only annoying thing I've found so far, is that when I close it and it goes to sleep mode while watching a youtube video and then open it again, the video's audio will play, but the video window will stay black. It's just a minor annoyance, and it's fixed by refreshing the page. But still, this kind of stuff never happens on my other devices.
@billybob300c2
7 жыл бұрын
Lisa doesn't explain how she tests battery life on the products she reviews, so I'm guessing she keeps it on the default battery settings (balanced in this case). Assuming your surface is on balanced as well, which is giving you roughly 6 hours, you could probably pull off 8 hours by putting it on ultra low settings (battery saver, choose all low power options in power saver, reduced graphics, turn off usb charging, airplane mode, etc.). Instead of letting your surface sleep, you can put it on hibernate to save more power, and since it's an SSD, you can instantly turn it on in a matter of seconds.
@luc7976
7 жыл бұрын
See for more deeper review on battery life on Anandtech: www.anandtech.com/show/11538/the-microsoft-surface-pro-2017-review-evolution/7 The display brightness is biggest factor in typical workloads.
@designanthology12
7 жыл бұрын
My sp4 doesn't even last me 2 hours anymore I've lost all hope
@DesignInNature
7 жыл бұрын
How come? How old is it? And more importantly: Did you get the i7 model? That's the thing with ultra portable devices. If you go for the most powerful processors, then you can expect less battery life for sure. I have to say that the new Kaby Lakes processors are a VERY nice upgrade. They are more power efficient. That being said, I still would not buy the i7 model, due to the reduced battery life vs performance issue. I feel pretty content with my i5 model so far. No need to despair with your older surface pro 4, though. If you still enjoy the device and really need it on the go, you can always buy a portable power bank from Amazon, or best buy. The modern ones are almost as small as my phone, and give your device about two full charges. That would bring you up to about 6 hours of use. Better yet, some of the new power banks have splitter cords that allow for both charging the power bank and your device at the same time. This way you can leave your device charger at home, and just take the portable charger with you. I don't feel the need for one with my new surface pro 2017 - SO FAR. But as with any ultra portable, I'm sure I'll be using a portable power bank at some point in the future. I'm the type of person who loves studying at my local library, or at starbucks. And I simply don't want to have to wait and fight for the seats close to the outlets. These power banks are small enough to not even notice them in your bag. Putting a small power bank on the table next to my surface pro, just looks like I'm using a portable hard drive. There's no need to feel left behind. The Surface Pro 4 is still a very good device to own in 2017. I've owned laptops (Toshiba Satellite) that never gave me 2 full hours of battery life, even right out of the box. I hope this helps.
Just want to thank you for the high quality reviews and level-headed commentary (from a user-perspective). Thumbs up!
Great review. Finally a review that actually does not leave you wanting more answers. Keep up the amazing work!!!!
You do some excellent reviews
Thank you very much youtube for suggesting this amazing tech reviewer to me. Love your channel, thank you for the effort and great content.❤️❤️❤️
Lisa your footage has gotten a lot better nice work!
Your reviews are always so informative!! Thank you for doing what you do :P
Love the technical details and well-researched comments in this review
Lisa has some of the best reviews on KZread.
jesus christ, ive been watching videos on other channels dismissing yours because of less flashy thumbnails. finally i clicked and originally i was skeptical, but these are the best ive watched anywhere, Thank you so much and keep it up!
Best reviews ever, amazing chanel, detailed and honest breakthrough, good luck there ❤
Love your channel. Honest reviews. A breath of fresh air.
Excellent review, Lisa! Thank you.
Wow, you are really really good. Concise straight to the point yet in full detail. I love watching your video you're very talented!
Thank you for your great content and really informative and excellently done videos. One of the best I have come across in years! THANK YOU!
Holy shit this was the most in depth laptop review I’ve seen on KZread. Good, very good shit my frirnd
Thanks so much for these wonderful reviews!
Hey Lisa, You didn't show the contrast of the display when you were talking about it in the video, And I just want to say that you are the best reviewer ever, Keep it up!
I love your videos... nice, simple and very informative! Thank you!
You do the best reviews!
Absolutely Beautiful Drawing
BEST RECIEW CHANNEL EVER! STRAIGHT FORWARD AND TO THE POINT ALL WHILE NAILING KEY POINTS THAT SHE KNOWS THE AUDIENCE WANTS TO KNOW! YOU ARE THE BEST. UNTOUCHED
Great review and real helpful. I've made up my decision based on this review. Thanks Lisa.
Finally - FINALLY - a real review! Thanks so much, Lisa! My company uses SurfacePro 4's (not the 2017 model) and adoption patterns are pretty unique. The device makes a very good laptop replacement (I actually gave up a Lenovo ThinkPad for my SurfacePro) and those that approach the device from that aspect are pretty happy. Those that approach it from the perspective of a replacement for their iPads tend to be disappointed - the size, weight and heat generated tend to put them off and they want their iPads back. Where the SurfacePro line has real problems is fragility - we had so many devices break from innocent drops or falls that iPads easily survived that we had to put out a warning to our teams to handle them differently than they do their old iPads. Broken screens are the #1 issue. Still their very good devices and your review has me thinking... hmmm.
I love your videos, thank you for helping me choose more easily and wisely my next gadgets!
Great review as always, Lisa. I love your reviews! Very honest and easy to relate to. A+! P.S. I decided to purchase the Surface Laptop mid-model, cobalt, and love it :) That one is great for writers. I still have an older Sp4 Core m model, too, for my drawing. Keep it up!
I love your videos, informative and puts me on a good mood for some reason.
Excellent video as always it's refreshing to watch your videos. They have a different feel from the "big tech reviewers". I believe that the people Microsoft asked are normal users who are not into the latest ports, cables and changes. They have old cables and stuff and want to use them with their new toy I guess!
Thanks for the great detailed review!
Great review! The pricing is ludicrous! They should have to continue to include the pen for these outrageous prices.
@clouds5
7 жыл бұрын
Pricing is my only issue with the surface line. I got my SP4 for 800$ including the pen&keyboard which was a very nice deal. The smallest model of course. That's a good price for what you're getting from my point of view. Over 1000 is just too much when you look at the features and what the competition offers. Really depends on your budget/needs though.
@zebbleganubi723
7 жыл бұрын
they would have to raise the prices even more if they were to include the pen and the keyboard. its not like they were giving the pen away for free last year. microsoft arent that generous unfortunately. besides that, if somebody doesnt want or need the pen then they will still have to pay for it if its included.
@eonotekaumaiwa4625
7 жыл бұрын
why do people all of a sudden complain about the pricing that much? you don't get the pen anymore but the actual tablet went down 100$ from last year which means that it comes down to about the same price as last year.... sure it's not cheap by any means, but that shouldn't be a surprise with the surface line...
@JK-xz1lt
7 жыл бұрын
The pricing didn't actually go down. If you look at the base model it is a bit a cheaper, but it never came with the pen to begin with. It's $799. The next model is suddenly $200 more, same pricing as last year but without the pen. You'll be paying through the teeth to make it a complete laptop.
@sugarking12
7 жыл бұрын
James Perkins I know that kills me the main reason I'm looking for this is for drawing
Such a helpful video as always, thank you!
Great complete review, definitely buy this one.
thanks for your amazing reviews
Fantastic review! Thank you so much :)
Great job, as always. Question: You mention that your review unit does not have backlight bleed issue, but the band of light bleed/discoloration that people are widely complaining about (across the bottom 1/8 of the Surface Pro screen) looks like it is present and visible in this video-?
Great in depth review covering many of the real world uses and I appreciate the artists perspective. Been considering it as a portable graphics tablet and of course a laptop. Though at the price point for the i5 version I want I'm kind of on my way to the price of a cintiq, which isn't a laptop, but my dream tablet.
The best laptop reviewing video I've ever seen. Thank you.
Great review as usual
I always like seeing Lisa draw on a tablet. It's soothing and mesmerizing at the same time.
Excellent review. Thank you.
You do great reviews
This is a great review... many thanks.
perfect and precise review, i like your review very much
You're great, amazing review, thank you!!
Really good review!
Great review
Lisa you are an amazing artist!!!!! Had no idea.
Impressive reviews
amazing review thanks
Thanks for doing this review. I've been on the fence for days if I should buy one or not, mainly because I was worried about the jitter problems on the pen. Now I have to decide if I should get the i5 or i7 option. Even if the i5 model, based on your tests, can take the heat, I'm still worried that something may go wrong after several months of use.
Lovely review, I'm thinking of getting one for my wife for Xmas. I got the previous SP4 model i7 and love it. Don't even feel like upgrading it's that great, hooked up to a 27in screen the old stand up docking station, there is as you say a lot of choice with these products. I have subscribed.
I love your channel, professionalism and passion. You should have your channel on Discovery Technology
Awesome video, Lisa. Will you look at the Eve V when units start to ship? I see that as the biggest threat to Surface Pro currently.
isn't that a backlight bleed on the very bottom around 7:27? I'm planning to have mine exchanged because of that 🤔. Also, something is activating the screen at the very upper right corner without me touching it. Aaaand... if I pressed ever so slightly in the middle of the screen, there's a sticky sound. Anyhow, great review.
Great review Lisa, as always, thank you! On a side note, did you happen to try the new Surface Pen with Surface Pro 4? What's the compatibility level? Does tilt work? Official information is very sparse on this...
Thank Lisa. You are uber-Smart!
thank you for great review. question: can we somehow use this as second monitor ?
I love your sense of irony/sarcasm. Hahaha. Keep the good work!
Good review
Hi Lisa, thanks for the awesome reviews you make, you are an authority on this. I considering getting a surface product. Please does new surface pro come with keyboard and a pen, or those must be bought separately?
Excelente video justo lo que estaba buscando
nice review, i just got my surface pro
thank you for your good review. i like your process
thanks for the review! I'm looking for a laptop for school and I might buy this one!
Beautiful design and I went from a MacBook Pro 2016 to a Surface Pro 4 and was eagerly awaiting this SP. However, Win 10 is still not stable e.g. you highlighted that you are having issues with the Hello feature. With the recent price drop of the entry level MBP 13", there is now very little price difference once you add the keyboard. I went back to the new MBP 2017 model and loving it again. As a consumer, I should not have to mess around with software or hardware, it should 'just work'. Lisa, once again, a well balanced review. Thank you.
Thank you for a great review ! Can you get your hands on the eve v prototype or the completed version and review it ? 🙏
Awesome review as usual! I'm considering the i7 version loaded of this or the SB 2. Cant decide?? I have the SP4 and love the form factor and overall has been a good device and still is. Which one would you pick Lisa?
Yet again a excellent review, IPad Pro 12.9 vs surface pro pleaseeeeeeee
Thx for the video!
Thanks for the great review :). So would you consider this an alternative to the ipad pro 2 for drawing/painting? It looked fairly responsive when you were drawing there. A smackdown por favor!
Great review! thank you for this! do you know if the keyboards can be used in older models of surface? thanks!
Stellar review
Hey lisa loved ur review but loved ur tshirt more
Nice review, I might be choosing this over the iPad Pro because of all of it's features. Looks promising but that latency on the pen which seems to look like 30-40 milliseconds could be a problem when taking notes.
Looks nice will get one hopefully soon
Could you do a comparative with affinity photo on Ipad pro and Surface pro? the core of this program is the same on all platforms, probably can be good for make us an idea of performance between this tablets. Congratulations for your great reviews.
You should do a specter x360 (2017) smack down, i have the 13.3 version and it would be interesting to see how they stack up
Just got this cause its on sale right now and I'm super excited.
You and and Mike from DetroidBorg are hands down the best reviewers on KZread right now. MKBHD and Dave 2D are good alternative reviewers.
This will be my gift to me this christmas. ☺️
Lisa, any comment on parallax with the new Surface pen and the Bamboo? I'm assuming the new Surface pen doesn't have any (finally) since it has tilt. As always, fantastic review!
another great review Lisa and love the digital painting, you got some skills :) in the off chance you see this, how would you compare this to the 2017 MBP 13" for a business user that lives in office and Adobe with some occasional video editing? I'm in need of a new laptop and have been considering the SP4 (given the drop in price), MBP and 2017 SP but a bit stuck on what to go for. any thoughts would be greatly appreciated as I think the use case is similar to yours. Also please tell people to stop comparing the SP i5/i7 to an ipad pro, they are different classes of devices :) Thanks and keep up the great work. Tony
I can't wait to get one it'd be great for school!!
I bought this after yesterday after having a MacBook 2015 for two years and the performance speed wise and the picture from the screen are better. One surprise has been the sound quality its a lot better than I expected.
I'm upgrading from the SP3 Pro, and I've enjoyed it. I'm excited about the no fan on the i5 model. The i5/8gb/256gb seems to be the ideal, especially with the integrated microsd slot. I'm hoping the speakers are better which it sounds like they are and improved battery life. Just a nice portable yet powerful device for an older college student / substitute teacher. Thanks.
Hi, Lisa. I'm new to you and I subscribed to you since I like your long and detailed reviews. Anyway, is there any improvement to the screen reflectivity compared to the last generation of surface pro?
@mobiletechreview
7 жыл бұрын
Seems the same to me.
@theastroquantumguy5810
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
best review on KZread
I don't know if it's due to an update or not, but the SP 2017 I bought about a month ago is AMAZING where facial unlocking is concerned. It doesn't matter if I'm wearing my glasses or not, wearing my cap or not...even in the dark! No complaints at all about that. The only bit of weirdness I've encountered is how it works with my Edifier bluetooth speakers. Changing the volume on the Surface has no effect at all unless I turn the volume to zero, then the sound is muted. But anything above zero is treated as 100% volume. So I have to control the volume on the speakers themselves. That one quirk aside, this version of the Surface Pro is truly great. Fast, quiet, great battery life, wonderful screen. and just beautiful.
just ordered a new surface pro for university! such a great device!
@Kayla-en1oh
6 жыл бұрын
Outline Hi I was thinking of buying one. How is it working out for you?
Awesome. Thank you.
nice tease of the surface laptop
Good review, what is the mic you're using?