This question is for Tommy: when are you going to study the effects of decreasing the air pressure in the tires on your Jeep? that would make for a great episode of diff lock.

@TFLcar

8 жыл бұрын

Today, please stay tuned for the video.

@neworder18

8 жыл бұрын

+The Fast Lane Car I eagerly await your conclusions.

@ejemploralf3782

8 жыл бұрын

+The Fast Lane Car when are you going to upload ep 5?

@Hole_Motorsports

8 жыл бұрын

+The Fast Lane Car do you go to CU? pretty sure ive seen your jeep around

@tomasmica325

8 жыл бұрын

+sjpro1 Yes I do!

Tommy is a natural. Great vid, guys.

@gordis951

6 жыл бұрын

Tommy knows how to wheel he should be in more of the off roading episodes.

this episode was great! I love father and son collaboration!

Found this video in 2022, crazy how much Tommy, Roman, Andre and this channel have grown. Now Tommy’s got a JL. Good work boys!

My conclusion... Tommy is a more skilled off-road driver than his dad. ;-) the camera doesn't lie..

@lunamaria1048

4 жыл бұрын

His father always admits Tommy is the best off road driver in the family

@screamosux

3 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind the wheelbases make a big difference on gnarly camber. Jeep CJ's and Wranglers were engineered for mobility and still hold true to that engineering perspective. The Toyota is more designed as an everyday passenger vehicle than for offroad mobility.

Can't beat that 4Runner! Now let's see a head to head with the TRD Pro versions of the 4Runner, the Tundra, and the Tacoma.

Absolutely LOVE this series. Thank You and have a Blessed day everyone

When I watched this with the General AT2s, I was encouraged to try them on my 87 YJ. I did and what a pleasure both on the street and trail. We just were hunting in the High Uintahs of Utah and awoke to a foot and 1 half of snow that came after 2 days of slime producing rain. My tracks were the only ones upt the very steep trail and the only ones to get to the top of the mountain (including ATV/UTVs) There were attempts but they had to turn around. Mine is the 6 cylinder 5 speed. I've got no lockers or special equipment. The old Jeep just amazed me and the tires went everywhere the more aggressive tires went. During the week, we experienced axle deep bogs and steep slime as well as rock. Those AT2s are unbelievable. You really should talk more about them.

Both worthy off-road vehicles and a what a great trail to take them out on. Nice video!

should have compared the Jeep to an equal year land cruiser.

@723lion

8 жыл бұрын

wouldnt that be worse? that Toyota might just drop to the bottom of the hill

@hsthompson71

8 жыл бұрын

+723lion you mean like the jeeps of today would?

@sferris33

5 жыл бұрын

Nope. Tommy would say unfair you have a V8

You're doing a good job with this series Tommy.

I like these episodes with your family. Awesome series!! Keep them coming

Its a fun video and we all enjoyed Tommy and Roman! I personally own this exact 4 runner and its worth every single penny. Great Resale value. Great 4X4 system. Plus all the extras you get with a daily driver that you want and need. Keep up the good work. Like you Roman my son has a 2009 Jeep and I go 4wheeling with him when I can. Either way the day just simply ends up fun! After all isn't that what off roading is all about?

@trevrev2249

5 жыл бұрын

Pretty nice rigs....but I'd rather own an 4.0 xj, wrangler 4.0, 1st Gen toyo 22re, 3rd Gen pickup 22re... and 5th gen 3.4 trd. ...all for less than half of that shiny 50 k suv

should have tried using a-trac before the lockers..

@lukestoyz

5 жыл бұрын

Atrac can be used with or without the locker engaged. Roman doesn’t know how to use it

@M9A1MAN

5 жыл бұрын

@@lukestoyz Believe the vehicle has to be in 2wd though.

@socaladventuresdavidt2557

4 жыл бұрын

A-TRAC IS AS GOOD AS LOCKERS FOR OFF ROADING. LOCKERS MORE 4 ROCK CRAWLING.

@socaladventuresdavidt2557

4 жыл бұрын

@@M9A1MAN no 4 lo...

@socaladventuresdavidt2557

4 жыл бұрын

To user A-TRAC needs 4 lo

Like father like son, I see where he picks up on his presentation skills! I really like the family dynamic here. Keep it up everyone, one of my favorite channels!

Awesome father/son team. I hope I have the same bond with my boys when they get older. Love your reviews and videos!

I was going to purchase a Jeep GC Hemi. But after years of trying to make excuses as to why I keep facing reliability issues, we purchased the 2015 4Runner Limited and its the best decision ever!! a true work vehicle, it's got that suspension that beautifully adjusts itself on turn that makes it feel like as though your in a plane when it turns ( I think it's for the limited edition only) and a self adjusting suspension. I towed a large uhual trailer and I maxed out the 2 axel trailer. The 4runner didn't dip below 2.5 inches. I did close to 1800 miles nonstop. NO issues with heating, breaks, signs. something that Jeep was never able to provide.

@cesarr5006

7 жыл бұрын

Roadliner

@alexandermacaraig8817

7 жыл бұрын

aky19832001

@taraspylypiv

7 жыл бұрын

Great choice Toyota always work better

@kiwionarope

7 жыл бұрын

Taras Pylypiv No it doesnt, any common, offroad vehicle that is well maintained and not beaten to shit will be reliable.

@51249ca

5 жыл бұрын

brakes...

If you're not going to use the A-TRAC/CRAWL Control/etc, then what's the point of the comparison? I thought this was supposed to be old vs new, but was really just live axles + short wheelbase vs F IFS/R live axle with a locker.

Another fun video. Nice job! Scott

Great job guys, I am eager to see more, you two make a great team! Keep up the good work

The Jeep is much lighter that the 4Runner too

@Edtweet

8 жыл бұрын

+ThatGearHead™ also is shorter

@jalilburdeen8698

8 жыл бұрын

+Edtweet That's not always an advantage lol js

@ChefRye1

6 жыл бұрын

Jalil Burdeen with a power to weight ratio when crawling absolutely

@deepjyotisaikia2127

6 жыл бұрын

Jalil Burdeen That's an advantage bcz pure off road vehicle is made with that technology

Son and dad reviewing... . Too dope! And Where's Nathan?

Hey that was great! Nice to see you out with your boy, Roman!

This is awesome! You guys must be having a blast doing videos!

the pro would have probably made it up both areas if he had used ATRAC by itself which simulates a locker

I've always loved 4Runners and Tacomas!

Best one yet! More Diff Lock episodes! Due a head to head with the TFL Rubicon.

love this videos, that's the way I don't get bored in quarantine :)

I'm just here for the comments.

Put A-Trac in the 4Runner and it would be unstoppable like my FJ Cruiser.

@blackpepe

7 жыл бұрын

Michael Cochran it has a trac

@nofyfb123

5 жыл бұрын

@@blackpepe: It has it but the guy didn't use it.

That 4runner color. Just amazing

@socaladventuresdavidt2557

4 жыл бұрын

Blends 100%with dirt. Perfect 4 camouflage when camping.

I like this series. Yay to more Difflock episodes.

The shorter wheel base was a huge advantage for the Jeep.

@djw5415

8 жыл бұрын

+fredmagic09 On tight trails yes but shorter wheel base tends to make climbing more difficult compared to a longer wheel base.

@84sheepdog56

8 жыл бұрын

+Dwalk22 boss you hit the nail on the head with your statement!

@williamthatcher9560

7 жыл бұрын

Can you explain how a longer wheel base helps climbing?

@TheCharleseye

7 жыл бұрын

William Thatcher It's easier to flip a vehicle with a shorter wheelbase. That's why uphill dirtbikes have such insanely long swingarms.

@tmmsplace

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Too much excitement about Jeep vs Toyota, but weight and wheelbase were not comparable.

Is a rear axle swap and locker install in the future for that YJ?

great video! I love the mash ups between vehicles that may or may not be direct competition towards one another. tire reviews would be great to see and I hope you can get a tire sponsor! thanks again!!

Great video!

All the 4Runner needed was Atrac (traction) on and wouldn't of needed the locker on.

@markbrinton6790

5 жыл бұрын

*wouldn't have

@farsheedmahmoudi2055

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Modern BTrac (break-traction control) over-performs rear lock differential and in some cases dual axis lock diff

if the 4runner would have hit the rut as fast as the jeep did the 4runner would have had no problem either. if u wanna crawl air down.

Good to see Tommy following in dad's footsteps, TFL will be in good hands :) I purchased this TRD Pro model 1 year ago this month and have not looked back, I love it. Will be curious to see how the next gen looks when Toyota adds styling cues from the new Tacoma.

Loving all these episodes this is my new fix. Great stuff guys. Although it's hard to work around the fuel stuff because here in UK, we have 95 and 100 octane fuel plus high cetane diesel.

To many people are taking this way to seriously. I have owned both vehicles while interesting to watch it's not realistic to compare them. For example drive that jeep at 95 mph (if it could) down a hwy. Or even comparing them as daily drivers 4Runner hands down. Tires are a huge deal off road. Could go on and on. Driving style is another issue itself. So while fun to compare and watch it's just not practical or reasonable. So ok don't get butt hurt. 😁

@ryoamora8655

7 жыл бұрын

Exactly, there's enough love in the world for Toyotas AND Jeeps. Both are very cool vehicles.

@dahveed284

7 жыл бұрын

I agree. The 4Runner is a larger and heavier SUV. It still has the same amount of traction (4 wheels) to use to haul itself up the hill, so the weight is working against it. A more apples to apples comparison would be a 4 door Jeep Cherokee vs the 4Runner. But it was still an interesting video. I'm surprised the 4Runner did as well as it did.

@thehayman7352

5 жыл бұрын

dahveed284 you are surprised? Lol do you know what a TRD is?

@nofyfb123

5 жыл бұрын

@@ryoamora8655: Except that jeep love is a cult while Toyota is indeed amazing. Also, there are virtually no jeeps outside of US - you won't find them anywhere where life depends on a vehicle. Unlike Toyota.

Tommy, Great job with the Jeep but since I'm 52 years old and already did my hard core wheeling stuff as a younger man I'd rather have the new technology and softness of a new vehicle and put a little bigger and better tires on it.

@tomasmica325

8 жыл бұрын

Fair enough

@trevrev2249

5 жыл бұрын

Buy a Buick or a caddy

You guys are awesome love the video. I'm picking myself up a 98 Jeep Wrangler.

I really like the "affordable" concept behind Diff Lock, and I think it's important to remind people who are commenting to mod the heck out of your Jeep the line about "Affordable off-road adventure". I have a 97 4Runner myself, and it was very much a budget build up of my daily driver when I started doing things to it 5 years ago. I think a really cool point you can really drive home (pun) in this video is that a decent set of aggressive tires will greatly enhance your off-road capabilities in a near-stock Jeep or 4Runner platform. Even before I put on a 3" lift, I got the same set of Yokohama Geolander A/TS that it looks like you had and it really turned my truck into a very capable bone-stock off-roader! Over the 5 years of grad-school budget modding, I was able to get a 3" lift, and it's perfect for what I need. It was still my daily driver up until a few weeks ago, so I didn't want to do anything too crazy to it. Plus, my off-road needs aren't crazy since I'm also in Colorado like going off-road mainly for the harder to get to primitive camping, trailhead access to climbs, etc., and less the rock-crawling up Lake Como busting a CV axle kind of stuff. Keep up the good work, and hope to see you out on the trail!

Left foot braking would clean those climbs and save the drivetrains from having to rely on speed.

short wheel base always helps every time

@dahveed284

7 жыл бұрын

Not to mention being smaller and lighter.

@faktovlog2558

6 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Orr And much less weight

great job! love it.

Awesome video!!!!

Roman messed up by putting the 4runner in 4Lo. When you drive in 4Lo your vehicle/wheels create more torque, 4Lo is the opposite of 4Hi as it creates less traction, and it wouldn't be suitable for driving in snow, ice, mud, or dry roads. 4Lo is meant for high incline rock climbs, when towing, and maneuvering a heavy trailer.

@ChuddleBuggy

5 жыл бұрын

The 4Runner's wheelbase was the problem. Anywhere below 30 mph or so and he would have lost traction and gotten stuck regardless of gearing.

@BenJaminLongTime

5 жыл бұрын

k well they said they put the jeep in 4low too right? so they were equally disadvantaged...

@brynjaminjones

5 жыл бұрын

4lo absolutely does not "create less traction". It simply provides a lower gear ratio which multiplies the torque to the wheels, therefore making it easier to overcome the available traction.

Where is the 2017 FJ cruiser TRD Pro!? That would be sweet.

@robertb1742

6 жыл бұрын

Fugue State too wide it would get stuck on that hill probably

Nice work guys!

awesome video

Great video, have to go with the Toyota!

Why is this called "DiffLock Ep..." if no one is using a diff lock???

@boomtownw

8 жыл бұрын

+black300tt Exactly what I was thinking

@J.James999

7 жыл бұрын

black300tt toyota used lockers to get up 3rd hill

Best episode yet.

Love that 95 YJ! More DiffLock Episodes please!!

4Runner for the win the Toyota has something a jeep will never have and it's called reliability

@Brandon-ni9ge

8 жыл бұрын

Lol yep nothing says reliability like your brakes not working.

@Skankhunt98745

8 жыл бұрын

+Baticon I'm not even a Toyota fan but any smart person would know that Toyota is way more reliable than shit fiat

@INTERSTATE-35-WARRIOR

8 жыл бұрын

+MrEroupe I second this. Love my 4.0. Never had a single problem with it, or the rest of the jeep for that matter.

@MiikeyLawless

8 жыл бұрын

+MrEroupe right, thats why 215000 miles 4 runner had to oull my buddies jeep out the other day lol

@Skankhunt98745

8 жыл бұрын

Toyota for the win its all about GM and Toyota

If you had lockers on that Jeep, it would he unstoppable.

@bannablitz247

8 жыл бұрын

+kdu8004 pretty sure he has limited slip front at least, he just wont stay on the gas.

@endocry

6 жыл бұрын

If frogs had wings, they wouldn't bump their ass when they hopped.

@georgeguzman9290

6 жыл бұрын

Jeeps are great but the best off road vehicles are land cruisers , lx 470 and lx 570, and 4runners

@RazeG4m1ng

6 жыл бұрын

George Guzman literally none of those you listed would beat a Jeep Wrangler off roading.

@thatextrachromosometho7345

6 жыл бұрын

+George Guzman A STOCK Wrangler would embarrass everything you just listed....Toyotas are supremely reliable, but not as capable as the Jeep

ready to see some new difflock episodes!!!!

Very nice video, looks like it was a fun little test!...GO JEEP!

Doesn't that YJ have a rear posi? I dunno but I think so. So using the locker in the T4R would be fair. But even if you didn't use it, I suppose if the driver knew how to use the left foot braking technique instead of just trying the "blast through it" technique he probably would have made it.

@rockymountboy

6 жыл бұрын

They typically did not.

These are not same types exactly. Fully lockable Wrangler should be against Toyota 70's series which is not on sale in US. There are not many front lock diff cars on the road nowadays. Sure, there are many in Russia.

@INTERSTATE-35-WARRIOR

8 жыл бұрын

+symmetry08 Well yeah they have to have lockable front and rear axles to crawl over the wreaks of the cars it hits. Love me some dash cam lmao

Just got a set of General Grabber AT2s as well. Love em

The quality of this video is insane

Yeah you guys know the Jeep won both contests. I love Toyota and I like Jeeps but I am also a big fan of old school off road tech, it just works and if the Jeep had a locker it wouldn't even be a contest. On a side note I have had a couple sets of those Grabber AT2's and they are nothing short of amazing. (Especially in the snow)

@nofyfb123

5 жыл бұрын

After one year, your grabber separated thread. Grab my ass!

Ha, Jeep won!! Great and fun video.

Just drove my brother's 4Runner after he installed the Magnuson supercharger.. The dinometer showed a 35% gain.. 350hp to the rear tires (almost 100hp gain).. Needless to say i just ordered one for my 2020 TRD Off Road lol

Really good episode, loved the comparison of diff lock vs no diff lock!Now you have to take the Jeep Rubicon to gold mine hill!

worst comparison video ever. The only way to test a 4x4's is for them to have identical tires at identical pressures on identical terrain...so basically this video is like comparing a banana to a space shuttle. Good job guys!!!!

Tommy, your Jeep is getting better by the day. Good video dude.

Love both vehicles!👍

Great vid, goes to show old jeeps are tough. However, that trd pro is nice...

If you had the jeep tires on the Toyota, you'll be unstoppable off road !!!

@MrHarleyoldfart

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think so.

@BenJaminLongTime

5 жыл бұрын

if you had no breaks you would be unstoppable off road !!! if you had a runaway engine you would be unstoppable off road !!! if you were free falling from space you would be unstoppable off road !!!

I have 3 thing's to say. Tommy whopped you like a red headed step child. Secondly people have been taking their jeeps through this type of stuff since 1941. Lastly you should do a viewer special where you get viewers to go up goldmine hill.

I really enjoyed watching that YJ doing it's thing.

The way that Tommy said oh ok🤣🤣🤣 1:27

So they're a draw to snow and rocks...the Runner never put on Crawl Mode, the yota would have ate that shit up.

My 85 toyota pickup would do all this no problem

@trevrev2249

5 жыл бұрын

I second that

It's ironic that the series is called Diff Lock but the Wrangler used for it doesn't have a diff lock. Great video, guys. I'm hoping to see some '16 Tacoma Off Road fun in the future.

great video.. love the father and son.. more family oriented. more realistic.

the dude driving the 4runner really shows his lack of knowledge overall driving and the truck platform

if the Jeep is 20 years old then you should have compared it to an old FJ 40 or an old Landcruiser and put the same tires on both vehicles to make it fair

@TFLcar

8 жыл бұрын

That would be cool but all we need is an FJ 40 and another set of tires. Please watch this video a few million more times so we can raise the money for your suggestion.

@guyproulx1660

8 жыл бұрын

The Fast Lane Car when you compare vehicles don't you think you should compare apples to apples?

@TFLcar

8 жыл бұрын

Sure, we do a lot of that as well: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ppl30Nxqc9jJdZM.html

@guyproulx1660

8 жыл бұрын

The Fast Lane Car i'm sure you do that too, all i'm saying is that it should always be a fair fight like using the same tires on both vehicles for example, i know tires cost money but i'm sure TFL can afford them

@TFLcar

8 жыл бұрын

+guy proulx Thanks for the comment but we work on KZread money. This video was shot by Roman and Tommy who also edited and produced it. There's no money for test tires, let alone the wheels we would need to mount them on.

Great video! Wanted to point out a small mistake... General Tire is misspelled in the credits at the end. Hopefully you can fix it before they see. Great that you guys got a tire sponsor!!!

It was a wonderful day today, so went up to the Switzerland Trail (another of Colorado's many abandoned narrow gauge railroad road beds). While the temps were nice and in the low sixties, it also made the snow like greased snot. Gold Mine Hill, fail. Could only go 2/3 of the way to the curve. For those of you who have not seen this hill in person covered in snow, you don't know squat. That rock obstacle in the video, fail. Muddy approach, and my wheel base put me having three tires trying to go up and over at the same time. No, I didn't air down, was too lazy. Spoke to Tommy. Very nice kid and very willing to strike up a conversation. Good job Roman.

@TFLclassics

8 жыл бұрын

+Donald Weber Hey Donald, It was great meeting you today! You have to try again once the snow melts! -Tommy

@donaldweber7636

8 жыл бұрын

+TFLclassics I did them last weekend with no issues, in either high range or low range, with tires at street pressure and at 15 psi. Amazing what two weeks will do. The "part two" is fun doing it in high range with a manual transmission.

Jeep is Jeep, it's ugly but it designed for what it for. Thumbs up!

@christianh.2950

8 жыл бұрын

Jeep's are beautiful

@OverlandTT

8 жыл бұрын

The Toyota is butt ugly trying to look like a ram. Jeeps are charming!

The 4runner would have made it up without the diff lock with just a little more momentum. No problem.

@84sheepdog56

8 жыл бұрын

+Frank White Very true.

@Yogangster1995

8 жыл бұрын

True. With the trees on both sides, it also makes it nearly impossible to do without having a serious risk of smashing a new vehicle that isn't even yours.

@jbatacan2

8 жыл бұрын

+Frank White I think the one thing stopping him even if he were to do it that way was the articulation from the increased length of the 4 runner, it was putting him in both ruts at the same time giving him the least amount of traction possible without the diff locked so he was spinning both sets at the same time. The jeep on the other hand crossed each rut independantly giving him a little more control over the contact patch. I notice this with my friends 2000 tacoma and my 76 cj.

@smackface6

8 жыл бұрын

+Frank White i think i could get a ford focus up that

@donaldweber7636

8 жыл бұрын

+jbatacan2 I did it in my Cherokee with no issue. It has the same wheel base as the 4runner. I might (?) have more articualtion though. i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag281/donweber2012/IMG_0752_zps22foywae.jpg By the way, I stopped, took the picture, and was able to get moving again (forward) without issue. All with a manual transmission.

Very cool. I go out with a friend with a Jeep. The weight of the vehicle and length give him an advantage along with the wide big tires and the fact that he is a well seasoned driver. Neither of us have rear lockers. I have a CDL and A-track though. A lot of fun. A good driver in a stock Jeep can go just about anywhere.

You guys have way too much fun

it's funny you're comparing a 95 Wrangler to a 2016 ultimate 4Runner. The 2016 4Runner TRD Pro doesn't stand a chance against a 2016 Wrangler Rubicon

@ghettomist1575

6 жыл бұрын

corey bush Well the 4Runner will still be going on 20 years, idk about these Italian jeeps.

" oh idk if he can do it with his 20 year old technology". Fancy little wires computers don't get you up a hill bud. never underestimate an oldjeep especially compared to todays garbage

@festerhairball6588

8 жыл бұрын

i'm with you Alex. & a locking diff is not NEW technology

@alex_ottomano

8 жыл бұрын

+raul campos lol yea, this guy's offroad knowledge is so off into space, he honestly sounds like a moron

@GuyBelmont

6 жыл бұрын

Alex Ottomano im pro 4runner and even i agree

@gptint1

6 жыл бұрын

A stock TRD can go anywhere a stock jeep can go, regardless of the year...

@rovenut

6 жыл бұрын

There is actually a ton of off-road tech in the 4runner and taco that was not discussed or used in this video.

Excellent video. Any possibility of some POV shots? Thanks

I'm 47 seconds into the video. I am already going to give this a thumbs up because you put the white lettering facing out. Thank you.

How are you gonna compare a '95 to a '16 Lmao

@Plupx

8 жыл бұрын

The 4runner 98' would still destroy that jeep

@jamesshafer2365

8 жыл бұрын

+Plup hope you're joking

@clintlopez9491

7 жыл бұрын

he's not I got a 95 it smokes a jeep

@J.James999

7 жыл бұрын

Clint Lopez watch video again

@johnstone3279

7 жыл бұрын

Arthur G because if this crappy Toyota would vs a new jeep the video would be even more pointless as the new jeep would demolish this.

I really dont care the toyota was much better

Love both of these, love the Jeep so much but I am big fan of the 4runners now and even have one both I would love to drive every day

The tires on the old Jeep are great tires had them on my dodge Durango’s gen 1 and they rocked it love the General grabber at tires

old technology and solid axles all the way...

Now pit that "Top of the line" 2016 4Runner up against a Top of the line Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and see what happens. It will make that 4Runner look bad, I guarantee it. And, by the way, I own both a 4Runner and a Jeep right now. They're both great vehicles, but the 4Runner is not going to outdo the Jeep off road.

@deifor

8 жыл бұрын

+Phil Harris Bull shit, nobody owns 4runner and a Jeep at the same time.

@philharris4504

8 жыл бұрын

+Laifer Reyes OK. Whatever you say there skippy.

@Shitbox_connoisseur

8 жыл бұрын

it will out do the jeep offroad, but the trd toyota and the jeep are intended for different terrains, when was the last time you saw a 2000 or newer trd tacoma crawling and the last time you saw a jeep somehwere like pismo?

@mikearvin2298

7 жыл бұрын

I pulled one out with my 2003 sport 4 runner it might of been driver error?

@WhySooSeriouslol

6 жыл бұрын

that one guy aye, most Toyota enthusiasts with newer gen yotas usually go long travel, never see new gen Toyota "rock crawler"

I've had the General Grabber AT2's (305/70/16) for a few years now on my JK and they've been great and one of the few AT's that are severe winter rated (snowflake on sidewall) which is must up here in Canada. They also have a high mileage rating and are quite inexpensive.

Great job integrating your son to this show. I enjoyed watching this