I have almost 200 quick charges logged and haven't seen any measure battery degradation. The trick to only quick charge what you need. I rarely quick charge to more than 65% of capacity, which is why I think it doesn't place much of a load on the battery.

@MikeDPerkins

8 жыл бұрын

That's great to know, Kent. Thanks for your input.

The over-the-shoulder perspective is nice. Helps us see what you see and gives a better feel for the car.

Very useful, comprehensive, yet concise and engaging review

We got the quick charger in every neighborhood here in Kansas City. I'm practically driving for free thanks to our own KCPL. I have a 5-year-old Leaf that can get 60 miles per charge. My job is 7 miles from home.

@MikeDPerkins

7 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a perfect setup!

@leaflover9625

7 жыл бұрын

Don Thigpen wish St. Louis would catch up to KC

Thank you for your excellent review of the Leaf. I find that many reviewers spend way too much time trying to be funny by interjecting stupid, unfunny jokes while doing a review, in which case I just stop the video. Thanks again for a great, professional review! 😊

In Great Britain there's quick charging stations everywhere.

@MikeDPerkins

7 жыл бұрын

Lucky.

Nice review

Yes, I have lots of L3/quick charge in my area (Seattle)... most are paid (like $8 per session), which is quite high cost.

The lack of recalls and problems and the 7 yr evolution and debugging of the Leaf, make it the safe choice for long term ownership. The large number sold translates into service people who know the car. Like the original VW Bug.. continued refinement is the key to success. Note.. the new battery is so much better that the capacity warranty increased to 8 yrs from 5 yrs.. and to 100K miles from 60K. Normal charging is now so fast, that when you stopped for lunch with 68% an hour and a half would have gotten you into the 90% range... given that..whats the big deal about high speed chargers ? Momma likes shopping and wine tasting.. walk around a bit.

@MikeDPerkins

7 жыл бұрын

All good points, and I even think you're underestimating the normal charging. The fast charging is just a way to assuage people's range anxiety, and it really does make longer trips possible.

@cageybee7221

4 жыл бұрын

@@MikeDPerkins long trips are also possible using RV stop points if you buy the cable that allows you to connect to the 240v plugs available at thos eplaces, charge in 4 hrs for the 30kw battery, maybe less below 80%. that is quite a bit but if it s a leisurely trip those RV parks are usually in scenic places.

@MikeDPerkins

4 жыл бұрын

@@cageybee7221 Indeed!

Excellent Review. There are A LOT of terrible review channels out here these days...nice work

@MikeDPerkins

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Debbie! Appreciate it!

@williamerazo1685

4 жыл бұрын

Terrible review

I love the leaf! Used lease returns are currently selling under $10,000 making it quite an enticing buy. However, because of issues like battery degradation I fear that my used car payment will outlive the cars reasonable battery range. I could replace the battery for around $6000 but then it just raises the debate of buying one in the first place. As we say back home, "All new things are nice" but "everything that glitters isn't gold." Personally, I'm still trying to decide. Great video! Thanks for posting!

GOOD REVIEW & GREAT CAR.

Very Good!

The plural of LEAF is not Leaves, it is an acronym from Leading Electric Affordable Family car. So it is LEAFs.

@alfmeister13

7 жыл бұрын

LEAF = Leading Environmentally Friendly Affordable Family Car.

sad they don't get more miles to a charge,

I don't usually stop for something to eat while I'm charging my flat battery . I just want to get where I'm going quick as I can. I'm fat enough as it is without eating thanks

What about battery capacity lose after you own it in 3-4 years? But a great video, thanks.

@CoffeeMadeMeSay

8 жыл бұрын

everyone leases it.

The reason you ran out of charge so quick is you were driving 70 mph were EV do better between 55-65 mph.The Chevy Bolt can only go about 200 miles at 70 mph,The Bolt can do 166 miles at max speed 98 mph.

@MikeDPerkins

7 жыл бұрын

Driving at less than 70 on 580 isn't smart. People need to know what real-world range is in these cars. Same as when I test a gasoline vehicle. The EPA may rate it at ___mpg, but that's on a perfectly flat surface with no wind and all the windows up and cruising at 54 and and and ... I like to let people know what they can actually expect to get when using the vehicle like they'd actually use it, not using every trick in the book to get the best mpg/range they can.

I'm going to get my rant out of my system. Just yesterday I saw a new public charging station in my suburban area of St. Louis, MO. I was really excited when I saw the Nissan no charge to charge sign. After about 5 phone calls today to my local dealer and the main Nissan Customer Service department they said NO they would not give me the free charging card. I bought my Leaf in May and the program only started in September so a big NO exceptions. The rate to pay with a credit card at the charging station is really high. Major bummer for me.

@MikeDPerkins

7 жыл бұрын

Man, that's frustrating. Electric cars need extra support while the early adopters pave the proverbial way.

The Note in particular was the model I rented on three separate occasions. I found it comfortable, voluminous in cargo capacity, same Nissan reliability and thrifty as I drove all over the Texas hill country in air conditioned comfort. Oh yes, the Note didn't cost anyone in federal tax credits either.

@1232bluejays

7 жыл бұрын

ya but it wasn't an electric

Hey, nice video. For your question on how many fast-chargers in our area: 5 in the entire posh and modern city of Miami, including 1 at a Nissan dealer. In the same area, Tesla has 17 location, with many of each location having multiple Tesla charger outlets and several of their superchargers. Tips: - Nissan Leafs hate highways. The 30kWh Leaf can easily drive 130 miles if you can spare 5 minutes and take the scenic back roads. - Nissan's claim of capacity loss due to fast-charging should be taken in perspective. Idaho National Lab fast-charged a Leaf twice a day and drove it 50K miles for a total loss of 3% vs lower level charges. Bottom line: it doesn't significantly affect performance while being very useful to longer trips. Reference: energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2015/01/f19/dcfc_study_fs_50k.pdf - Don't rely too much on the range meter, aka: guess-o-meter. It starts overly optimistic and quickly drops off from there, disappointing and/or giving drivers so-called range anxiety. Had you reduced your speed on the way back, the range would have adjusted upward. For a round trip, it's useful to also look at the charge percentage; if you're more than 50% before starting on your way back, you'll be fine.

@MikeDPerkins

8 жыл бұрын

+JRoque250 Thanks! I noticed the same - the speed really started eating up the miles. Really appreciate your input on the fast-charging stations and the battery degradation.

@BobQuigley

6 жыл бұрын

13 months with a 2012 Mitsubishi miev 16kwh battery. Purchased used for $6,800 with 6,000 miles on it using CarGurus. Level2 charging at home +3.4kw rooftop solar system. Zero dollars "fuel" cost for the 7,000 miles we've driven so far. Only used quick charge 2 times to get car here from Pittsburgh. Like the Leaf large trunk area with back seats folded down. Haul 15 bags of mulch per load, lots of building materials for home remodeling, helped move a friends fragile glass etc to her new house. Rated 62 miles charge we consistently get 80 to 92 in warm weather and 70 to 80 in winter. Higher mileage due to living in flat area of northeast Ohio + quickly learned how to drive electric using little or no brakes while primarily driving on secondary roads which are common here. Planning on dumping our second car Jetta ICE when we find a good deal on a bolt or similar car. Electric is so easy and intuitive with minimal maintenance. No gas station, oil change, etc. We've been converted to the church of electrification!

So i live in baltimore area of maryland & to be completely honest i only know of a single charging location anywhere around my area & technically its not in baltimore its on the out skirts sbout 5-6 miles into the county aka glen burnie & that's at a walgreens. There are 2 or 3 chargers that come off of one tree like device. But then again this could be that i only noticed that one from going there, but i def dont go looking for charging stations seeing as how i drive a 7500 lbs yukon xl that absolutely destroys any hopes of fuel economy. That 5.3 vortec is getting me about 11-13 mpg's on my commute from baltimore to dc every day & u know what i wouldn't ever give my girl up. Mainly bc if my wife ever kicks me out i can pull the 3rd row out & camp in it 🤔. Plus it'll blow through any thing u put in its way. That being said this leaf is one oogly mofo, but i wouldnt mind using an ev for if nothing else my commute to & from work. Thats 100 miles a day that i dnt put on my yukon

@chesspro22k64

4 жыл бұрын

DIRTDIVER882 Save your Yukon engine. Buy an EV because DC has charging stations. I’m in the Maryland DC area.

@thisislogout

4 ай бұрын

Lol.😅. I'm a semi retired 60 year old and don't care to impress the opposite sex anymore with a sexy looking car. 😅. I want the Leaf for around town errands of no more than 60 miles roundtrip a day (3 days a week). This would be perfect for me. 😊

That's a lot of money for two floor mats.

@JRo250

8 жыл бұрын

+MotorCity J It's crazy. So expensive that some people list the mats as a feature when selling the car. For less than that you can get made in USA, WeatherTek mats that will outlast the car and are more useful than Nissan's.

@1232bluejays

7 жыл бұрын

the floor mats have solar panels in them

@officebear4637

7 жыл бұрын

lmao

There are quick chargers at my work that charge for free. There's no reason I don't trade my gas vehicle for electric

Floor mats cost 65€ in Europe

The Kansas City area has a reasonable amount of DCQCs. Check out www.plugshare.com/ and filter for the orange. They're mostly ChargePoints and after some initial hiccups, they're pretty reliable now. Just as important, there are lots of L2 EVSEs all over town, so this is a great place to have a LEAF, even a 2012 with 80% battery capacity left.

The not so secret sauce to this whole thing is, adding more quick charger options and multiple ones at each of those sites, because if you think of it, if gas stations had the same issue, like 1 or 2 pumps at most at each "station" add the fact that not every city has even 1 quick charging station in your vicinity. Even ICE vehicles would be frustrating to own, I dont care what the would be range is for any given one of those, if you dont have the convenience to "fuel" up at almost every other block... people would be killing each other for the chance to fuel up wherever there was one, as a matter of fact I think this happened already back in the 60s or so, where there was a shortage of gas and people were scrambling to find gas stations that had "gas" LOL .. now, I understand it is not exactly the same right now to those days in terms of supply and demand for EVs as the ratio of EV to ICE street presence is far too low, but in a small sort of way, we EV drivers are daily facing that sort of scenario, hopefully things get better otherwise, the whole EV thing can take far longer than many of us are willing to put up with.

@christopherhamilton5557

6 жыл бұрын

Johannes Lopez The good thing is we EV owners can “gas up” at home!!! Free quick charging when ur out and about is great ( like at a Nissan dealer for example) but most days, I wouldn’t drive more than 30-40 miles, so it’s not too much of an issue. If I need more, I hafta fire up the ICE vehicle unless I know there’s a facility available. To your point though, dependable (and inexpensive!) infrastructure will lead to greater adoption of EV’s. Highway rest stops would be ideal places along the interstates! They are typically about every like 40-60 miles? Just a thought...

Lmao this guy gave the best advice

Not what I call a correct driving position / one handed and siting sidewards not looking at the road

You'd have made the trip on one charge easily if you hadn't been driving at 70+ MPH.

@MikeDPerkins

8 жыл бұрын

I think you're absolutely correct. I noticed a significant difference driving at 60 and below versus 60 and above. Unfortunately, driving that slow on that road wouldn't really have been very safe.

If Nissan do not lower the initial payment Motability customers have to pay, they will have killed a market. Motability supplies 250,000 cars per year! So think on Nissan.

"with an 86 mile round trip it should be able to make it without needing a recharge" I guess apparently it did need a "recharge".

@MikeDPerkins

7 жыл бұрын

No, it would've made it back without an issue, especially if I'd been a bit slower on the highway. But I wanted to test the DC3 system to see how much charge it could recover in the time it took me to shove a sandwich into my face. Came back to a fully-charged battery!

@BTC909

7 жыл бұрын

I was tempted to rent a non-107 range Leaf and see if it would handle my daily runs.

@MikeDPerkins

7 жыл бұрын

What kind of daily mileage are you doing?

@BTC909

7 жыл бұрын

M-F - 44 in the early AM, 44 early afternoon. 98 mile round trip once a month with only 110v access for several hours. Otherwise random running around.

@MikeDPerkins

7 жыл бұрын

The 44/44 days should be no problem if you've got a few hours to charge in between. My only concern would be getting stuck in traffic. Hell, even the 98-mile trip should be do-able if you've got several hours to toss a charge on, but don't expect much of a recharge from a 110v for only a few hours.

So my trip to Louisiana or similarly distant destination would require 5 stops at a min. 30 minutes per? I would be sweating my a** off for 2 1/2 hours before I arrived? Wow! Makes me want to rush out and buy a limited use vehicle today. However, the Nissan Versa (sedan or hatchback) is whole different story. Its utility, frugality, cost of ownership and resale simply cannot be beat for the price.

@MikeDPerkins

8 жыл бұрын

I drove a Versa Note from SF to LA and then to Joshua Tree and back, and I wasn't very impressed honestly. But you're absolutely right, if you're looking for a longer trip, the Leaf or any of the electric alternatives probably aren't a good option. However, for around town you'd be set without having to pay for gas anymore, and if you need to go out of town, there's always renting. Much cheaper then buying a second car if you're only making longer trips a few times a year.

@gaochen9240

7 жыл бұрын

The plans for these vehicles are for daily commutes. For most people, that's fine and if they go on longer trips, just rent a car instead.

@MikeDPerkins

7 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

24 kWh and 30 kWh battery packs. You measure them in Watt-hours. I couldn't even finish watching this review because you lost me when you started giving Nissan a bad time about not updating the looks of the Leaf in six years. Really? Why is it I hear no one saying the same thing about the model S? Both cars are fine and don't need any changes but of course it's easy to pick on the Nissan Leaf isn't it.

@brianmcg321

8 жыл бұрын

The model S has only been out for 3 years, and guess what, they just had a refresh for 2016 + cars. Lol.

@ElectrifiedJourneys

8 жыл бұрын

The model S is 4 years old and those are minor changes they made to it. If you are counting that than the Leaf had its upgrade in 2012. By the way, the front facia on the new Model S is even worse than before. LOL

@MikeDPerkins

8 жыл бұрын

+Electrified Journeys Japan I'm sorry you couldn't finish the review, as it seems you're well informed on the subject. As for the Model S, I wasn't reviewing that vehicle so I didn't comment on it. I wasn't intending to pick on the Leaf at all, just the opposite in fact. It was more a compliment that it's still done so well despite not having a redesign.

@ElectrifiedJourneys

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you for replying. I'm sorry too for misunderstanding your point. I guess I'm a little too sensitive anymore when it comes to professional reviews of the Leaf. I've just seen too many times before media being super critical of Nissan but get all gushy over BMW's i3 or Tesla's model S. I apologize and I will also watch your review all the way to the end and this time try to keep my mind open more.

@MikeDPerkins

8 жыл бұрын

+Electrified Journeys Japan Oh, I understand completely. Keep in mind, reviewers are generally "car guys" so the RWD/fun aspect of the i3 and Model S will tend to overshadow a lot of things. We need to keep in mind that it's not the be-all-end-all metric when it comes to cars.

Happy time music+not too intelligent reviewer

@MikeDPerkins

6 жыл бұрын

Bob Quigley Hey thanks! I'm not too smart but I drive good.

Corporate jingles... ugh.

wow! you cannot do math!!!!

Boring!

A lot of misinformation !!!

@MikeDPerkins

7 жыл бұрын

Like?

I love the leaf! Used lease returns are currently selling under $10,000 making it quite an enticing buy. However, because of issues like battery degradation I fear that my used car payment will outlive the cars reasonable battery range. I could replace the battery for around $6000 but then it just raises the debate of buying one in the first place. As we say back home, "All new things are nice" but "everything that glitters isn't gold." Personally, I'm still trying to decide. Great video! Thanks for posting!

@MikeDPerkins

8 жыл бұрын

From what I've read, the battery degredation isn't nearly as bad of an issue as they anticipated. More time will obviously tell, but I really wouldn't worry. That said, I'd likely hold out for a used e-Golf. I've been driving one this week and I love it.

@DangitCD

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully you got one because they are expensive right now. I can’t even find a used 2016 model under $15,000

@OwnYourOwnBus101

2 жыл бұрын

Actually I did get one through a clean air program here in LA (They basically paid for the car). I did a lot of driving in it and basically went from 90 miles per charge to 60 miles per charge in just 2 years /80k miles. I think it’s because of all the fast charging I had to do. I sold the car after that. I still think the LEAF is an awesome car, it’s just better suited as an around town runabout or a commuter.