I can't believe this is free. 21st century is amazing

@GrubKiller436

4 жыл бұрын

Money is an illusion. If I think about it, as if I were an alien, humans are unbelievably productive beings that do things (almost in a sense, for free). To think about the scarcity of money as a resource makes a person feel anxious. It actually worsens a person's life to think that money is 'real'. To the person that understands money is not real, they will do things out of intrinsic values and motivations. It will remove a petty deprived element from your life. You may calculate money as a bunch of numbers strategically, but not be hung up on the idea of "I don't have enough." And beyond that, the things you buy, you will see them as gifts. Money is a part of the system of exchange, I can understand that. But everything else that we do is the integral part of our lives; they're what we actually do.

@davyroger3773

3 жыл бұрын

@@GrubKiller436 Yes that's a nice dissertation. But if you tell that to someone who's injured, unemployed, and cant pay rent they'll give you an equally eloquent response on why money is real. Now you could argue that it's a mere abstraction created by society, but that doesn't make it any less "real" . Hell if you ask the buddhist everything is an illusion!

@GrubKiller436

3 жыл бұрын

@@davyroger3773 Homeless people will be the first to tell you there's something extremely messed up about our society. Because we have the resources to tend to the homeless. We just don't. My parents are immigrants and they used to say when they lived in a third world country, you would never see homeless people, because they were treated as human beings. While in America, insurmountable amounts of food continuously rot in the fields. And so much food is wasted, and thrown away, with laws in place that make it illegal for any corporation to give food to the homeless. Every corner you turn is an instance of food going down the drain because we have so much. But what are you gonna do, give it to them for free? I don't think so. Money is real because we've made it real; we have people like you. And in this country, we care more about abstracting the unemployed and homeless. We'd rather talk about how oh homelessness is such a bad thing rather than actually doing something about it. So don't talk to me about how you think it's so bad the homeless guy doesn't have any money.

@leefithian3704

2 жыл бұрын

One of the few , free thing’s worth listening to

@michaelgallagher2092

2 жыл бұрын

Working my way from oldest to newest, mind-blowing stuff.

I want this ability to articulate so effortlessly.

@tomwoodthorpe5790

8 жыл бұрын

+Gabe D Make it your full time job for 30 years and you too can speak well

@adamwhite1920

6 жыл бұрын

Stop wanting, start being.

@igornowicki29

6 жыл бұрын

...you know.

@kangakid5984

6 жыл бұрын

Gabe D think out aloud and teach too

@EnigmaEcliptic

4 жыл бұрын

at some point he says something about being articulate. I paraphrase ofc but it goes something like this "watch yourself when you are talking like you are watching someone else. When you say something that is making you feel weak, just shut up. And try to find a word that doesnt make you feel weak. At the beggining you will find that you cant speak at all cause you have to shut up every 5 seconds and have 10 seconds of thinking in the between, but as you practice doing that you become better at it every day." Tried to do that as i as talking with a family member that i love very much but have completely different political views. Didnt wanna fight with him and kept my calm, talked slowly, thinking of the words i was using while talking. It works. I can talk better now with people. If you keep practicing it gets better.

This man is one of the most accomplished educators in the world

@vladimirpastukhov7538

6 жыл бұрын

soon

@lethalurethral8082

4 жыл бұрын

@@vladimirpastukhov7538 haha.

JP: *asks a question* JP: That’s a very very complicated question. Dude is so brilliant he perplexes his damn self.

@Richard1979hush

4 жыл бұрын

i am not denying his brilliance but we all perplex ourselves. it's part of our nature. Humans are conflicted beings yet we also are able to navigate out of such situations. the difficulties lay in seeing within our problems part of the solutions; i think Jordan is quicker than most at recognizing how problems can assist us in furthering how we learn. This is what makes listening to him such a pleasure.

@universitetiim2853

4 жыл бұрын

Those students are smart, so some times they made smart questions but as a teacher u want to push your student to have more cofident in making quesitons and dont feel stiupit so every time they made a question he reward them with some positive emotions as "good question" and listen them careflully. I think this is the main reason for him to say that every time and as u see the class is having fun and learning.

@TheJojoaruba52

Жыл бұрын

JP: “That’s a very complicated question.” JP: “Let me explain why it is complicated and the three theories as to why you find it complicated and how Freud, Piaget, and Jung explained why you don’t understand the question.”

@sangmadewira4726

9 ай бұрын

@@TheJojoaruba52 why are you just typing a direct quote from jordan peterson word to word? xD

I've been feeling kind of depressed these past few days.. but despite that I've actually got some legit laughs from the past couple of lectures. So when I say I'm enjoying these I really mean it 🙂

Great. He puts so much energy into explaining that I did not loose attention for a minute. Many thanks.

I was sitting up in bed at 3 am, thinking that if my mysterious chest-stomach-breathing got any worse I would wake my husband and ask him to take me to the Emergency, and worried how I would have to quit my job because I can't breathe well enough to function. Then I heard you describe my whole predicament to a tee (from timestamp 0:35:00) and I was so relieved to realise I'm not lost in a black hole. There's actually a name and a commonality for what I'm experiencing. Yay, synchronicity! Thank you.

@marylou2663

6 жыл бұрын

so... now what do i do? i'm not finding the ability or help i need.

Amazing that I can understand this. Thank you Dr. Peterson for sharing for free your knowledge and wisdom. Wish you were a professor near me. I'd go back to school. Fortunately, you are here! What a blessing!

~53:00:00-1:00:00+ Thank you for explaining the nightmare that happened to me during the first 5 or so years after the first symptoms of my husband's health decline appeared. First, we couldn't get appropriate medical attention for what turned out to be HSE (65-95% mortality rate when untreated), then it was incorrectly diagnosed, which led to cognitive and behavioral changes and permanent brain damage. There's an underlying progressive disorder to deal with, too. Suffice it to say, I experienced all you described, and more, with little to no help (not that anything could be done, anyway, I guess). We're at the 10-year mark. This life IS misery, but it helps immensely to have it explained the way Dr. Peterson has explained it. And there have been unexpected blessings along the way, so it's not for nothing. When we're ready for the lesson, the teacher appears.

@k3nny111

7 жыл бұрын

You know, you are an individual. You don't have to keep suffering through that.

@recynd77

7 жыл бұрын

k3nny111 My point is that there can be meaning and blessing in suffering...even if it takes a while to discover it.

@k3nny111

7 жыл бұрын

The notion that there is blessing in suffering is deeply nihilistic. There is nothing blissful about suffering.

@recynd77

7 жыл бұрын

k3nny111 I didn't say "bliss". And I'm religious; I am definitely NOT a nihilist.

@BrettonFerguson

7 жыл бұрын

Dr. Peterson even says people learn or grow from suffering. He isn't the only person who says that. Would you accept it better if she said "Learning" or "Growth" instead of "Blessing"? ...as if learning and growth aren't blessings. ...AND that is the opposite of Nihilistic. Nihilism says there is no point. She says there is a point to suffering, it's a blessing. Not to mention as a Christian she believes she will be rewarded in Heaven. Did you put any thought into this, just reflexively talk crap, or are you confused about the definition of Nihilism? It seems like Christianity would be easy to argue against without needing to build Strawmen. "Blissful" and "Liked to see people suffer". yourlogicalfallacyis.com/

I've been researching self development for about 7 years and I'm astonished with this man. How is he so accurate and relatable at explaining concepts? I'm finding his work to be VERY actionable to apply into my life. His reasoning connects the dots for me. My wife has noticed a difference in me.

@JeffMTX

3 ай бұрын

That’s great man. Isn’t it ENCOURAGING? :)

So. I've been watching your videos for the last 2 months or so and among many many other things I'm experiencing something quite peculiar. I've never consciously experienced such a strong influence in my speech coming from any one source. And even though I am unconsciously emulating the way you organize the presentation of ideas it doesn't feel that way. It feels more like its contagious. One theory of mine is that its just so apt for some innate style of thinking in me that I can't help but apply it to my ideas as a means of communicating them. I'm mostly happy about it but at the same time there are moments where I navigate a thought pattern verbally and seconds later realize that I'm practically repeating after you. Its a bit unpleasant to find that I'm almost plagiarizing and so I try to... keep it in check. I don't think it would be a good idea to suppress it completely and I'm sure with time I'll integrate it and let it mingle into my own styles of speech. I just wanted to share that.

@joerobson6800

7 жыл бұрын

I never used to talk with my hands until I'd watched these lectures, I kinda like it though.

@noahnoah3029

7 жыл бұрын

I've noticed the same thing happening to me. It's extremely apparent because I usually don't pick up other people's mannerisms. I think I resist doing it in a misguided attempt at being authentic. It's one explanation that I came up with for why I have social anxiety. It's very easy to feel relaxed around people if you've picked up what other people do, but if you don't do that, it's a lot harder to function because you don't know how people are going to take you.

@noahnoah3029

7 жыл бұрын

I talk with my hands a lot. I'm good at coming up with analogies. I wonder if there's a connection - translating meaning across different mediums.

@IndigenousNudity

7 жыл бұрын

So glad you said that I picked up Nietzsche beyond good and evil and I'm reading it in Jordan petersons voice. I'm getting a big kick out of it and it seems to be sinking in better.

@dragons_red

7 жыл бұрын

Proper Noun Lol, I found myself doing the same the other day in conversation on these topics. I am pretty much in the same boat as you in terms of watching a lot of his videos recently. I have always had an element of imitation/emulation of people I find inspiring or look up to in general, but there is something peculiar about Dr. P's voice, affectation, cadence and mannerisms in general that is so appealing it is, as you say, contagious. He has a unique charisma that multiplies the effect of (the content of) what he is presenting. The ideas he presents are profound on their own, but his style of delivery takes it to another place. In my mind, this is the best example of how lecture (at University) could never be supplanted by online courses (in their common current form), unless they make lecture videos available as he has done here.

Whoa. Problems of infinite complexity? Next time my computer has trouble solving an np-complete problem I'll be sure to remind it that it's lucky not to be in my shoes!

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"Figures that something would go wrong right now. " Quick, somebody check the sun.

The best part is this makes so much sense as if it speaks your mind

I wonder if we would have less need of anti depressants if more young adults were actually taught how their minds work like this? seeing the flaws in our thinking would allow us to avoid the pitfalls of depression possibly?

@samvisser9408

7 жыл бұрын

Simo I often think we could all do with a counselor, just to try and get a grip on our "selves".

@samvisser9408

7 жыл бұрын

Simo I often think we could all do with a counselor, just to try and get a grip on our "selves".

@M4dM4n96

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if you can just rationalise it away. That might be helpful to some people - to be grounded in reality when crisis strikes - but some times depression is just irrational, and that would, I imagine, tend to be within the people that actually need anti-depressants.

the story used as example for agoraphobia/anxiety is an excellent outline for my autobiography....I'm thoroughly enjoying & learning/growing from Dr. Peterson's lectures. Thank you!

To answer Jordan’s question at the end - I went to university to find what I only found from him years later on KZread - thank you Jordan

Jordan peterson is amazing, and brings enlightenment to many around the world. Thank you for sharing your sagacity. Mittu BEDI

48 mins in, he talks about why we aren't constantly afraid. Interestingly enough, this is what we bred away from wolves in order to make them into dogs. All wild animals are generally scared shitless all the time. One exception, if they're an apex animal. In apex animals, this tendency for anxiety is nothing but a burden, so evolution favors the ones that are less anxious. What good does an elephant have for worrying about snakes? Humans on the other hand, are not physically apex animals, but intellectually so, which have led us to be apex animals in most senses. Further, we war between ourselves in a manner unheard of in the animal kingdom. So, here we humans are. Low general stress due to us having mastered nature, but still dependent on it to handle dangerous animals and hostile humans. No wonder the mechanism is buggy.

@josiahcrew375

2 жыл бұрын

I never understood the word like consciousness. I thought we’ll if a animal isn’t conscious then they aren’t living. Well I understand now how animals really live on instinct and in there own conscious way Buh they r almost smarter then us humans so I jus imagine if they one day all start walking on two😂 legs

My whole life has been full of anomalies lol! Serious things too where I have seriously considered ending it because no matter what I do, debilitating obstacles come my way. I've learned though that just hanging on, living a bit longer, a solution may be found, even if it means having to accept the situation as it is, because despite doing your utmost, a clear solution cannot be found. In the depths of my misery, I've thanked God for my life, even the miserable and horrifying parts, because I'm thankful that I've experienced actually living, which is a wonderful thing. I've also found that people come my way who are going through these awful things for the first time, and I've been able to be of some use to them in practical ways or to give comfort and understanding, and its truly satisfying to be of help. Thank you for these lectures, they've been of great use to understand why I've reacted to this bad situation in life that I'm continuing to live through, but nevertheless hopeful of change, giving me the courage to carry on.

next time I'm at the doctor i'll say to him "Doctor, I think I have a problem of infinite complexity.."

Such a great lesson. Thank you so much.

affordance

@celloguy

7 жыл бұрын

Jordan B Peterson I understand your explanation of why people feel emotion when engaged actively in a task. But why do we feel emotion when we imagine our own ageing, or that our children will grow up? Is it imagined obstacles in our conceptual space? Why do we feel teary at the end of a feel good movie?

@francescop1

7 жыл бұрын

hey professor, I'm sure you will have come across this by now, but you never know! www.technologyreview.com/s/602344/the-extraordinary-link-between-deep-neural-networks-and-the-nature-of-the-universe/ seems to confirm your thesis on the way we use neural networks or "lenses" to view the world.

Thanks for allowing to see your lectures, you are very very good in every aspect, thank you again and your book is 👍👍

Thanks for posting.

I keep expecting someone to raise their hand and ask "uhh.. so.. is this gunna be on the final?" lol

Thank you for putting your lectures on line. FYI Christianity does not hold that matter is evil. That position is Gnostic and condemned by the Orthodox Church. Again, this is great stuff. I plan to listen to all '16 and '17 lectures.

2 seconds after it is uploaded. :)) I am about to finish Maps of Meaning 2015, I think I am going to start the 2016 version after it. Thanks Jordan! ❤

@philipmorise7970

8 жыл бұрын

I am also about to finish 2015. But Im gonna do personality2015 first then go to maps2016 then personality2016.i think the 2 different series are connected and you should know both 2015 lecture series before moving to2016

@RahellOmer

8 жыл бұрын

+Philip Morise you are right! Actually I have changed my mind now and I agree with your plan. :)

@philipmorise7970

8 жыл бұрын

You are now on the correct path towards being a petersonian(that last word kinda has a ring to it, huh dr peterson?)

@RahellOmer

8 жыл бұрын

+Philip Morise hahah I became a Petersonian after 10 minutes of his 12th lecture in personality 2015 (Existentialism). And btw, thanks for the sub :)

@philipmorise7970

8 жыл бұрын

I had to sub to your channel. I plan to learn about the brain from your channel. Is that you in all the video?

Thank you for uploading these videos!

4th lecture in as many hours, you're correct...2 in any sitting is sufficient. Yet I listen and pay attention. Absorbing, always my beechers brook.

Thank you so much, professor Peterson.

I watch every video of his repeatedly all day long. I learn so much more because they are so densely filled with genius knowledge that helps me find meaning in my life, understand and forgive myself and others, and even be open to ideas I would never accept. All because I respect him so much, I see the way my life has improved so much it's ridiculous. He's better than taking a psychadelic.

Really motivational lecture for encouraging maps of meaning and finding your personal reality.

Hi Jordan, thank you bery much for posting the lectures. They are prodoundly affecting me, and have also I now purchased the self authoring suite. Just building on a few of the comments below, could you comment on the overlap between Maps of Meaning 2016 and 2016 and personality 2015 and 2016, and the 2 different courses with another? Would help me organize how I consume the courses. Best Regards, Joe Rini

helpful lectures thanks professor jordan

This really helped me better understand myself / validated some of the theories I had about myself. I'm completely mentally fucked in every way imaginable, apart from being legitimately insane, so I'm trying to fix my life somehow and it's pretty hard to get out of 'the underworld' scenario. The lectures thus far have been very interesting and I hope that in the ones I haven't seen yet I will find some infos that help me find a way to figure out how to go about my future.

Thanks again Professor!

I think there is important notion of getting doomed and having response to that. Cause having the power and desire to go ahead whilst you are in the underworld is limited and unless you have a strong idea or better a skill how to get passed the doomed stated that arise pretty rapidly just as you start probing you models. Unless you will give up pretty fast and it’s important to outline that right from the beginning.

Well, He just described a huge chunk of how my presence is when he talked about stepping on both of the gas peddle and the brakes, ready to get my foot off the brakes as soon as i know where to go ...

"Everything is nested in what you ignore"

Do you have any views on Kafka from your perspective of psychology or narrative? I'm starting to take an interest in his work after a quick reading of The Castle and The Trial. The three main themes I can see are the autonomous individual vs The State, the arbitrary cruelty and confusion of life, and also the problem of how we interpret the world. Just wondering if there's anything else I should be looking out for as I read his work.

You're analogy with the drug addicts is pretty spot on. During my drug addiction, I developed a whole new personality. When I was sober for several weeks, my personality would change back and I felt like I was someone else entirely. In fact, I remember pretty clearly several times, where I got high and like a subconscious time warp, I would be propelled mentally to whom I was AS the addictive person; and I remember talking to myself, saying things like, yep, I remember this person. When I was high, I developed a whole new identity, a whole new way of thinking about things. And that new way of thinking about things just grew and grew. It was a very selfish view point, that was heavily influenced by thinking about sex a lot. It grew into really morbid sex drives too. I also remember making plans to improve myself, but never achieving those plans because either had to get high again, or was too high to be motivated to do said plans WHILE I was high.

you the truth jay

Motivated to explore or to look/search within parameters within the confinements/limitations within the understood and accepted knowledge. If it goes over that line then it’s deemed wrong or impossible. Or if it happens like expected then it’s coincidental.

I have been in this state Jordan talks about in this video. Basically had my worldview destroyed by a thought process that i had been avoiding for a decade. For months my perception of the world shrank to a simple process of give and take for every possible interaction i could recognize with both animate and inanimate objects. It was terrifying and majorly depressing. This continued for over 3/4 months until i had to choose a new outlook to test out. And as of now its going well and hasn’t completely broke for several years. But this underworld place he talks about is maybe the most real place I’ve been and it’s completely different from depression. I have called it the void but it’s interesting to hear someone else talk about it but it is also terrifying.

Professor are you ok?... You seem like you're not quite! Hope everything is going well with you.

@Porphyrogenitus1

8 жыл бұрын

+Mahtab Malekian I was noticing the same thing, but I didn't know how to ask (not in the mere technical sense - how to approach it). If I knew how to ask I wouldn't need these lectures myself!

@mahtabmalekian

8 жыл бұрын

+Porphyrogenitus Same here! I just went for it ... ! I hope it's nothing though...

@Porphyrogenitus1

8 жыл бұрын

+Johnny Zehner >Express genuine human concern for someone. > Get called names for it on the internets. "Things that happen on days of the week ending in 'Y'"

@Porphyrogenitus1

8 жыл бұрын

You've learned a lot on how to treat people from watching the videos, I see.

@abra_cagillian

7 жыл бұрын

it seems like the usual semester progression, I'm familiar with it from the past few years. It's more noticeable watching back to back but is more gradual in real time. Nothing necessarily bad or good, more relaxing into the groove of the course and the relationship with the class has developed.

Thank You Jordan, How would I send you one of my Coloring Books?

At the time of the power outage, I was a geophysics undergrad living on Aylmer a block away from McGill! A geophysics professor from across Mount Royal was quoted in La Presse the next morning about induced current into the electrical wires. That was wrong. What brings electrical distribution system down is the induction in the ground itself. Power lines are grounded, the voltages between grounds became too large and the network went down.

@PavaloiAlexandru

3 жыл бұрын

So what you are saying is that the unplugged appliances survived ?

@AlainTheberge

3 жыл бұрын

@@PavaloiAlexandru No. It is a poorly written comment. My point had to do the morning after the famous blackout, an important newspaper ran a headline that was 99.999% scientifically wrong. Yet, the journalist had done his job. The UofMtl professor forgot about powerline being grounded, he went on to prove that induction within the wires couldn't take down the power grid distribution system.

The stuff at around 24:00 - 34:00 or so about addiction was so interesting for me to hear. I had/have a really bad gambling addiction at one time. I mean like really really bad. People who don’t know about this sort of thing would think it’s not even possible for it to be as bad as it was. I stopped gambling in April 2015. Somewhere around June or July of that year I decided to write something about addiction and sort of more specifically about a gambling addiction as I saw it in my own head. This is before I had even discovered the great videos on this channel. I really had never heard anything about addiction either other than the standard stuff everyone hears. Anyhow, I wrote this blog post describing what this addiction was like in a way that I felt people would be able to understand and it amazes me how similar it is to the things being described here in this video. I never really blogged much at all and eventually got rid of my blog entirely. In case anyone feels like checking it out I just put it back up now. I’m not trying to get people to come over to my blog with this at all. In fact it is literally the only post on there and is only there in case anyone feels like reading it for reference. methods2madnessblog.wordpress.com

My view is that the universe operates as the combinatoric experiment generator... which correlates directly to your argument that the Darwinian process supercedes/subsumes the Newtonian or Einsteinian views - the counterpoint to this perspective is that the Darwinian process is in fact an emergent behavior of a lower level (more primal) view of the universe that in fact drives all of the (derived) processes by which the beings who we are were created. Touching upon the Anthropic Principle... I extend this concept to draw the conclusion that the Darwinian process is predicated upon a goal (or higher order behavior) that is built into the fabric of the universe... the goal (higher order behavior) of the universe being to understand itself through the process of creating life, consciousness, and self-consciousness... Humans are (as best as anyone can tell) the pinnacle of consciousness and through our consciousness we are instilled with naturally encoded models and are compelled to create models to explain the universe to satisfy our curiosity and "improve" the world (curiosity being a natural and essential drive for humans to adapt and survive (as you've pointed out in this lecture))... but curiosity and the capacity to learn and reflect on "facts" about an objective universe (Newtonian or Einsteinian or post-Einsteinian) will provide us the basis by which we will be able to engineer beings who are likely to be distinctly different types of intelligences (e.g. silicon or quantum) within which we will by necessity need to transcribe the Darwinian meme into the firmware of their circuits.... The lifespan of these post-human beings will be sufficient large to enable "great thoughts" that would require many human lifetimes to achieve to be explored / exploited and discarded... Ultimately, I see Darwin's, Newton's, and Einstein's natural philosophies to be facets... as you point out at different granularities and time scales.... picking and preferring one over the others is natural... choosing Darwin shows your affinity for the biologic over the mechanical and over the wonkiness of the quantum underpinnings of it all...

@andrewmckeown6786

3 жыл бұрын

I think that the Electric Universe group have really put some good questions to the Einsteinian hypothesis.......

Question, if exposure does not reduce anxiety about death, how does that reciprocal inhibition has been shown to be effective to cure some types of phobias?

The motivational input persuasions direction or responses in the modern era are less firsthand experience than they were back when all these metaphorical exclamation exclamation is explanations were written before. On us in the education system. So now it’s the adverts and the movies that encourage responses. Would you agree?

Do people with acrophobia still experience the feeling that ‘I’m better than everyone else’ or ‘that wouldn’t happen to me’? Perhaps the reason we aren’t all panicking is because we’ve built a machine that tells us we would perform better than our peers in a similar situation. Like the old ‘if I were in nazi Germany I wouldn’t comply’

My suspicion about why everyone isn't suffering from agoraphobia has to do with the inevitability of death. Even if the odds of a person's death is one out of one hundred thousand, in some specific instance, and that is of infinite significance. Because death is of infinite significance, any chance of death multiplied by infinity would be infinitely significant. People live in a world of extreme complexity, which viewed from an odds of death perspective has a wide range of ever changing potential odds of death. All of which have infinite significance. However, the broadest perspective a person can take on their individual chance of death is to imagine their life as a hole. When honestly viewed from this perspective the odds of a person's death go up significantly, to one out of one. When death over the course of a person's life is accepted the relative risk of death compared to most other activity is extremely low. So, when a person consciously or subconsciously, takes into account their certain death, agoraphobia is no longer an appropriate response. There is no good reason to be afraid of death all of the time if it's going to happen anyway, no matter what you do, or don't do. I believe that is why most people aren't agoraphobic, because it squanders the limited amount of remaining life that a person has.

It seems he might have stated at 57:15 what Chaos is, feels like, and manifests as: : "An infinite journey towards an uncertain goal."

1:23:00 is something I've been doing for a while now that has been amazing for me.

Would you expanded more on what you mean by higher meaning?

Hi Jordan, your description and thoughts on the rationalisations of addictions were very incisive, I was wondering if you have ever been addicted to any substance? (including cigarettes or coffee, anything) Your understanding seems to be very deep and accurate, it resonated with me, I was just wondering if the understanding came from personal experience or second hand knowledge.

@paul-baseballcollector

6 жыл бұрын

Mt Naybour In his most recent Q&A (September 2017), he said he was a severe alcoholic and cigarette smoker back when he was a university student (around 25 yrs old).

Have you read The Doors of Perception? If I remember correctly, Huxley claims that psychedelics work by diminish the exclusionary capacities of the brain rather than by stimulating it into producing excessive perceptions. Do you know if there's any truth to that?

Is a mid-life crisis unavoidable? Or can one deter such a thing through repetitive exposure to fears, or obstacles? That is, if I continue to set goals for myself for the next 20 years and so on and work towards those goals and find meaning in them through success, will I still have a crisis in my 40's?

10:00 hands are natural tools. We don't just walk, crawl and climb with them.

At approx. 41 minutes, you state that PTSD survivors have to develop a philosophy of good and evil in order to recover. This is a very useful concept for my work, but I am not sure what I would do to assist people with this. Where could I find more out about what you are talking about here? Thank you.

@sevillaking6677

8 жыл бұрын

+Jordan B Peterson +Jordan B Peterson Thank you. I did recently finish the entire volume, which was a project (worth it). I appreciate this advice, and see how much sense it makes. There is another concept you introduced that I cannot get out of my head, and pertains to my work (SW) - which is the idea of the misfortunes that maintain people's state in the Underworld (or send them there). This idea is haunting me. I know there is something extremely useful in this eventually, after I can figure it out and apply it. I suspect the answer will be found partially at least in the mythological stories of coming back from that world. I am learning much from your classes that is useful and thought provoking. The Underworld is real. I know it.

@sevillaking6677

8 жыл бұрын

ps. thank you also for the links.

I think that if you studied a group of religious people vs non in regards to agoraphobia you would find that there is less among religious

@SliPsHoTiFc

6 жыл бұрын

wolfgang penselmeister stupid comment

Does anyone know how to just get the audio of these lectures? idk if there is a podcast version or if someone has ripped the audio

@evian664

7 жыл бұрын

you could use a KZread to mp3 converter which is usually used o download Music from KZread.

Im a little hesitant to bring this up, because I know it's considered an outrageous notion, but on page MM 113 from your description of the ancient consciousness ("cannot distinguish between what elicits a response, and the response itself"), I can't help but be reminded of Julian Jaynes...What is your opinion of the bicameral mind theory?

50:38 when I was in the kindergarden the nurses would often leave the room with us in beds almost asleap. All the kids would start talking for a few minutes and then as if startled by the immediate return of the nurse would all quiet in the same millisecond. As a 5 year old I thought that's interesting. I could check that out. I tried initiating the wave by stopping myself from talking and it worked once. What worked however was stopping midsentence or speaking just a little louder just before shuting off.

so CLEAR

Thank you!

Pertaining to soldiers with PTSD who have committed evil acts - (this is what I am taking away from your video "Evil") - would these survivors need to acknowledge this actual experience of their own capacity for evil and to use that to inform morally responsible henceforth? It this the way out of the underworld? Is this what you meant by "developing a philosophy of good and evil"?

@parlor__4217

8 жыл бұрын

This reminds me of Joseph Campbell talking about one main function of mythology. Its purpose is to affirm life in spite of death (or evil acts). Many creation myths start with life being created by killing another being, usually a precursor god. On a practical level, I’ve found the Jungian approach positive. We learn to incorporate our shadow side so that it becomes a force for positive action in our lives rather than destroying ourselves or others. I’ve used Hal and Sidra Stone’s Voice Dialogue to work through this process.

amazing

Did class resume at 3:15 and was it recorded? Thank you!

Is there someplace to see the diagrams you are showing in the Lecture/s

The beginning of your lecture made me think of Theseus and the Minotaur in the labyrinth and compare it to today. The SJW/socialist ideology we are seeing could very easily represent the Minotaur today. They're certainly hard headed enough, lets hope they never grow horns enough to do any damage.

Is there any student who was in the classroom here? Is this video complete? Did professor continue after the break?

"Why isn't everyone agoraphobic"? I asked this question to an evolutionary game theory professor a long time a go - i.e., why in the hawk vs. dove game are the negative consequences to being eaten finite, and he had a reason.. I can't remember if I'm honest. Gahh! I will post again if I remember and you're interested.

@ministerc.politics4305

5 жыл бұрын

So, what was it?

@Inwazzin

5 жыл бұрын

So, what was it?

@ashwinshrestha9404

5 жыл бұрын

Bro..still waiting

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, in regards to the story about the woman and her fear of the elevator, wouldn't that be claustrophobia instead of agoraphobia?

@ralphdavidson9542

2 жыл бұрын

Fear of elevators is, I believe, a phobia all on its own.

What stands out here is that metaphysical suggestion that a Darwinian world is primary with a "Newtonian" (i.e, traditional scientific) worldview being secondary. And the grounds are that the world we perceive is only one which we have selectively created through the adaptation of traits, therefore the world is always changing as we adapt to survive within it. I can't say I agree. The world as it is perceived every day may be heavily subjective, but science uses methods that at least limit that subjectivity. According to the personality of the individual, change and survival are upsetting battles which we constantly deal with, and are more important than truth. But according to science, according to the body of data that was built on at least seeming rational principles, the article of survival does not always trump the search for truth. And our store of knowledge is not itself fighting for survival. Therefore I think it can capture something outside of what is necessary and subjective on a day to day basis.

1:13:00 god... i need to watch Fullmetal Alchemist : Brotherhood again....

Awesome....just awesome!

Jordan Peterson can speak for 30 minutes straight and I'll be amazed but get nothing at the same time😂

My hypothalamus drives a large portion of my life.

This man's gonna be the next Harry Seldon

Define - "SPIRITUAL" Please !!! THX

@J. B. Peterson, did you figure out what the word was?

Jordan’s meat diet must be working?... he looks way healthier nowadays

I think there is also a lesson to be learned called...'let's take a break 'til 3:15..'.

inventory? is that that word jbp ?

Healthy wealthy and wise - Benjamin Franklin. Early scientist/alchemist

Who was it that once said, "A Nihilist is just a frustrated Hedonist?"

Jordan, you made the comment that psychoanalysts had it wrong when it came to the significance of an elevator phobia and looked for the meaning or motivations behind the phobia. Then you said that when a panicked person looked at an elevator they saw "death". That is something a good psychoanalyst should know. That is exactly the significance of and meaning behind the phobia and it will manifest elsewhere. There are all kinds of ways to tackle the problem and a good psychoanalyst should also be aware of them - including practicing courage. Jung would know this. It is all about making the spirit bigger.

@dawnspence7781

8 жыл бұрын

+Jordan B Peterson Yes - That is what you said. I think the point of view of the psychoanalysts has enormous merit. Some things are fixable with behavior modification strategies and some things are not. What technique engages the spirit of the particular client? That is what is needed. And any change requires action regardless of the psychological orientation. Depth psychologists disappoint us when they miss that 'action' boat and engage in neurotic wallowing. Thank you for your work and for your breadth of vision. Greatly appreciated.

Alchemy should be more Spiritual, like the Philosophers Stone, the Holy Grail, the Golden Fleece, etc. We can transmute some chemical elements these days but Gold is precious and comes locked in a Nugget (least ways, this far). Shared Adventures and Wondrous Stories (Yes!) in our spare time are good avenues to proceed with.

I want to smoke DMT with Jordan Peterson, then have an amazing conversation.

@TheModernHermeticist

7 жыл бұрын

me too

@markboggs746

7 жыл бұрын

@Wesley Avila Solis No you don't, You want to drink ayahuasca with Jordan. Don't smoke DMT. It's not for fun. Drink it as Ay in Peru. :-)

@scottmoyer3854

6 жыл бұрын

Nod joaquin LMAO!! Don't do drugs kids. You don't need them.

@-RXB-

5 жыл бұрын

mark boggs Ayahusca isn’t exactly fun. Lsd would be great tho

@setheus907

5 жыл бұрын

Not much conversation going on when you smoke DMT. Trust me I smoked a lot of that stuff when I was a teenager and most people just lose connection with reality. A tip for anyone trying it, don't keep doing it day after day because the trips will start to get really bad. I tried it again the other day and it went straight to the bad, I think I ruined it for myself when I was younger, its a shame but I had my fun with it so not a great loss

34:19-44:00

r u there jordan,,,could use a word from u... likely don't read the comments though...

The word he can't think of is "affordances"

1:07:05

that drug thing is scary... it's almost like time-travel. it's a causal outcome that manages to *reinforce* it's own causation. I suppose that's how learning in general works? Is that how neural nets work? draw paths from point A to some potentially correct point B. whenever point B is correct, innervate that pathway. whenever point B is not correct, either ignore or reduce the pathway. (where stronger nodes are more likely to be chosen.) eventually, you will only have correct pathways; or at least the probability of being correct will tend towards 1.

@bobwilkinsonguitar6142

5 жыл бұрын

This is exactly how neural nets learn, which is why they have to incubate for awhile and test mamy possibilities before they're useful for anything.... just like we do..

12:50 if you've taken psilocybin or LSD then you can testify that the experience "demonstrates" or gives credence to this theory lol... as if it inhibits that which inhibits the flow of all that "throwaway" or "disposable" data/stimuli. Thanks.

Around 1:10 it gets interesting for Sam Harris :)