I have been working on cars for a while now, and you included everything I needed to know. Even though with transmissions, there is no substitution for having the FSM and being able to read it, your video sped the process up. THANK YOU

Glad to see this video! I have 36k on my ‘14 Crosstrek and was wondering how often I should service the CVT. Changed the diffs at 30k, front looked good but the rear was nasty. Ever since then I’ve been thinking about the CVT. Good to know the fluid in there holds up well!

I am glad there are people on KZread like you that make these types of videos. Very enjoyeable content. I think I'll still pay the cash to Subaru to do that process for me though.

@itzjay3876

4 жыл бұрын

Brian Walsingham honestly they won’t do all this it’s not necessary if u change ur fluid every 60k they basically just do a drain and fill of about 7 quarts.

@matiasfisher676

2 жыл бұрын

instablaster

Great video on a thorough cvt transfusion. I can suggest, when the fluid is done draining. Drop the transmission pan, thoroughly clean the magnet that is located in the dimple on the pan, and clean the pan itself. Replace the filter screen, reseal,and re assemble. Then do your transfusion. That is the only suggestion I have, great video. And Amsoil is always a safe bet in my books, I've run it for years and always will.

@bigdaddymak1439

4 жыл бұрын

The filter in the cvt isn't accessible by removing the pan don't really need to clean the magnet every time

@Beefycheddermelt

4 жыл бұрын

It's a cvt. Obviously no pan.

@edsmith4414

3 жыл бұрын

@@Beefycheddermelt It does have a pan, but the screen in it is just a screen on the pickup tube....not a filter as such.

@berserkerusmc7613

2 жыл бұрын

When flushing a transmission, like in this video, I usually drop the pan and filter after the flush. That way, no contamination on the filter ( screen) and the pan remains clean. Not meaning to criticize, just sharing the way I did my flushes.

@timradke7775

7 ай бұрын

Taking the pan off doesn’t do anything

It seems today's car manufactures have you check the transmission fluid level at a specific temperature instead of a dipstick. Great video bro!!

@infotechsailor

4 жыл бұрын

my f150 trans dipstick has 2 level markers, one for cold and one for hot. I wish all manufacturers did that

Thanks a million for sharing this!

That was a really good video. thanks; You should of probably considered dropping the transmission pan and replacing the lower filter (there are two, but you can only get to one without completely taking apart the transmission). Your pumping technique also means that you exchanged out alot of the fluid that was in the torque converter.. nice job.

I have a 2011 impreza automatic and on my year and other year models they came with 2 types of transmissions, one model transmission has a serviceable screw on filter and mine does not have any filter whatsoever besides a screen for large debris, so I've been changing my transmission fluid every 25,000 for assurance since it was new, at these change intervals I will guarantee I will get well over 200k, I have 135k now and showing no signs of wear and it drives just like new, well worth a 1 hour job once a year, I'm also a freak on engine oil change too, 3k on the oil and its changed out no exception no matter what the oil says and I can honestly say my subaru has absolutely no leaks or seeping anywhere.

@thepokerpilotapp

3 жыл бұрын

I applaud your freakiness

Great video. Subarus are the best.

Love the video. Thanks for the info. I'm planning on doing this very soon having seen this video and how easy it really is.

The cvt fluid get pulverized and whipped millions of times within the first 50,000 miles. The oils molecular structure; mainly hydrocarbons, break down over time. Which is why it turns black because the black color is the loose carbon that broke away from the initial hydrocarbon molecule. When the carbon atoms break away from the molecule, at some point the molecule is too small to create the lubricating effect between the metal moving parts and rubbing parts inside the cvt. So, to make that more understandable: The reason why oils lubricate is because their molecules are small enough to slip between very very close spaces, but large enough and strong enough to prevent these spaces from rubbing hard enough to create severe wear and tear. When these molecules break down and get smaller, they now slip in between the spaces but do not prevent the pieces from gliding against eachother like when they were larger. So you MUST change the oil at the beginning of breakdown to insure there is proper lubrication. It really is a fascinating topic. The oils breakdown starts virtually immediately the second you go forward, and it only becomes necessary to change when the amount of smaller molecules defeats the lubricating ability of surviving, fully formed hydrocarbon molecules. In a cvt, this is roughly 25,000 miles. You dont necessarily need to flush the cvt in order to replace all the loose carbon with new hydrocarbon molecules (oil) after you change the fluid out, but you should because of gunk build up, microscopic metal fragments that will wear the cvt more and more, especially if it is the first fluid change because a new cvt breaks in 5x more than it will between 50,000-200,000 miles.

@pf465

4 жыл бұрын

I'm convinced. Thank you. If you care about your car and plan on long term ownership, this is very sound information, and guidance.

@mr.terwilliger5728

4 жыл бұрын

P F I’m glad and thank you for your reply! 😊

@mr.terwilliger5728

2 жыл бұрын

@@TubeBrowser2 I guarantee you they changed that fluid at some point during service intervals

@TubeBrowser2

2 жыл бұрын

@@mr.terwilliger5728 I bought it new and never had the CVT serviced. My bad, of course.

@mr.terwilliger5728

2 жыл бұрын

@@TubeBrowser2 If you ever brought it in for service intervals with the dealer when it was new they definitely changed it

Hi Max, if your Subaru reaches the next 100,000 miles on Amsoil fluid you are going to leave many exeptic people speechless.

Excellent! Thanks for posting.

Thanks for the helpful video! Also what kind of headlights do you use they look much better and brighter than the OEM?

I DIY the flush with dropping pan and change the bottom filter with a new one. I encountered a problem with pan screw... two of them was to affected by rust an give up when I tried to unscrew them. I was lucky enough to finish the job with an extractor tool for remain screws. If you have an elevator the old fluid keep going even after the first start of the engine. In this way you can flush out less but old oil in majority. With motor running I suspect you will exit mixed oil so you will have to use a larger quantity for flushing . So....kepp it mind ...if you screws pan is rusty be prepared for extra time and tools. If you make the flash with your car on an elevator you can use the gravity in the first stage of flushing after the first start of the engine. Conect your drain hose to the exit end on transmission directly..... It's the tight one. Left is for oil income and right is for oil out.

Do you remember the size of the hose from the cooler?

What if I regularly (say every 15k) removed 1 qt. of CVT fluid and added that EXACT amount back? Would it keep things running OK without the need for a massive flush every 60k?

Comme on,some hot ATF oil in your eyes??? Got to love it and your directly involved and be one with your car!! He drank the stuff to!!!!!

Good morning Max, I am unable to get to the link letting me know how to purchase the items used to change CVT fluid. I would appreciate sending the directions on getting to your link. Thank you

I'm so glad Alvin and the chipmunks stopped by to help with stubborn hose removal. I'll have to schedule time with them when I do mine. Great video

@richardmorgan1588

12 күн бұрын

At least Dave wasn’t there to yell!😉

Is a flush necessary for the CVT? My '19 Impreza is at 50,000 miles and I plan on getting a fluid drain & fill. Which will not be nearly as much new fluid in/old fluid out.

Good Job, I'll save a lot of money. Thanks

Great Video!!

What do you use to clean the transmission, CVT fluid or something design for that purpose? CVT fluid is very expensive to waist it like that

Thank you very much, I was very concern that my 2016 did not have a dip stick to check it.I have 33K on my trans (bought car new) and always change all non - engine oil fluids after 5K, 20K, 60k + but the trans seems to be a sealed case. Will have my mechanic work on it and send him this video

@max-weber

6 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Could you do this one liter at a time. For example, turn the car on until 1L comes out, shut it off, add 1L of fluid to the CVT and repeat until the fluid runs clear?

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, thats essentially what was done in the video. You can really only safely flush out a couple liters at a time or else you risk running the pan dry. It might be more difficult to flush at a slower pace, since when the car is turned off the fluid wants to fall back down into the pan.

Hi OP, you still have the original white Panasonic battery on your forester after 100k miles?

I know its an old video but how much did all that end up costing you?

if u did install a cvt cooler, a video would be awesome dude!

@MikeFitzmauriceNz

3 жыл бұрын

The heat exchanger is the cooler.

good video - how much oil did you change in total? how many quarts?

Will the transmission flushing on the 2014 Forester XT (with FA20 DIT) be similar?

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, but the CVT cooler inlet and outlet hose are positioned differently. See this image I uploaded for a previous viewer: imgur.com/0xy1EyN

My 2014 forester has just reach 100k and i am wondering if i should do the same thing since subaru only cover up to 100k miles....never tow anything, regular city/fwy drive with 2 times desert fun only. Also not sure where i can get a shop to do it.....

Is the outlet hose you removed the same as 2013 impreza?

Great video, I'm doing it next summer. Question, why not? 1. Drain/refill 2. Put the cooler output in a pan (like you did) and the input to the transmission coming from an elevated container with fresh fluid. The transmission itself would pump in the new fluid and you collect the old until it gets clear. 3. Check and top off.

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

Its difficult to tell exactly how the fluid moves within the transmission. I believe there is no suction on the cooler input line, so you would have to hook up a pump anyway and it would be difficult to monitor how much fluid remains in the pan.

@cs_yt

5 жыл бұрын

@@max-weber So, why the pressure goes up when he turns the engine on? You see the clear container filling quicker with the engine on. The electric pump used on the video seems to just refill the transmission. I believe there is an internal pump that circulates the fluid through the cooler, and it has enough pressure to do the job.

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

@@cs_yt Yes, the internal pump is pushing out the old fluid, but if the outlet hose is disconnected then the same pump can't push fluid back into the transmission. It draws fluid directly from the pan. It's not a sealed system, so you would have to pump fluid back in using an external pump anyways. Running the pan dry will destroy the transmission which is why I opted to fill directly into the pan from the fill hole (where I could also make sure I was keeping the pan full)

@cs_yt

5 жыл бұрын

@@max-weber I see the problem now. The return from the cooler is pressurized keeping the internal pan filled when the system is sealed, in my suggestion there is no major pressure( just gravity) and the risk of having the transmission running low in fluid. The electrical pump plus the stop and go of the engine guarantees that the transmission won't run dry. I could do a lot of stop and go, but then you want the transmission to run a little to dislodge any gunk. Good discussion. So, I'll do like the video after all. Cheers!

@bygonebob

Ай бұрын

Ok, I will summarize everything based on both your explanations and I will add mine too. I’ve seen a teardown of this transmission TR580 and it has an internal rotary pump. As to where the fluid goes internally, I can only guess. I agree with Max that the pump picks up fluid from the pan and pushes it to the cooler, then upon reaching the return port (input line) on the CVT, the fluid just drops or cascades down like a waterfall back to the drain pan. This movement of the fluid from the cooler back to the CVT is totally dependent on the pressure (pushing effect) being applied by the pump so there is no suction present on the return line just positive pressure. The negative pressure or suction though is at the drain pan. Hence, this explains why Max got some fluid spurting from the exposed return port because there was no suction happening there. Had there been any, no spurting would have occurred. I can relax without this hanging over my head now. Thank you guys. Salute!😊

Thanks for sharing. I understood that you drained the cvt fluids into a container and measured about 7quartz. Then when you fill it through the fill plug, it was only 4quartz? I think I’m lost when you started flushing the fluids... how can I make sure I’m putting back the same amount of fluids back in? Thank you

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

The remaining fluid has to be added in while the engine is running (when the engine is off, fluid migrates back down out of the transmission since the transmission fluid pump is off). You fill the pan with the engine off. Then you start up, cycle through some gears, add fluid until it starts running out the fill port. The CVT fluid temperature has to be within a designated range (86F-104F) to get the correct fluid level because the fluid expands and contracts based on how hot it is. That's why you need the OBD reader and activeOBD app.

Would like to have a idea on 2014 subaru forester c v t if its was a good year c v t

I cleaned my filter with just brake cleaner and hot water, its 90$ for a new one but its just a metal screen mesh inside.

Hi Max. We are awaiting the next CVTF change.

Curious why you didn't just put the oil back into the oil cooler hose? granted your pump can't keep up with the engine but less chance of spills.

@jayg1204

3 жыл бұрын

I'm wondering the same. Why not replace new fluid into the return line for the CVT cooler?

Shouldn't the new fluid be pumped where the return line was connected to?

Hello Max, What kind of symptoms had the forester before this CVT Fluid change? I have one as your Forester with Some symptoms as kicks felt between 20>40mhp, and lights warning in the cluster don't were activated by ECU or TCM, if you push hard the accelerator it does not feel any issue, but if you drive a normal way the issue persists. I appreciate your answer and time. Your video is awesome and so clear the info that you did, Great Job! Saludos desde Nuevo Leon, Mexico.

I was told that our 2015 Forrester CVT is a sealed unit and no service is needed. The drive belt will wear out and then the unit is exchanged; just like replacing a worn out clutch on a manual transmission. No fluid changes should be necessary unless the vehicle is being used for towing heavy loads at high temperatures.

@max-weber

6 жыл бұрын

Under light usage (mild weather, no traffic, flat terrain, medium distance driving), most people will probably be able to get away with never changing the fluid. The lab test that I had done of my fluid at 100k miles shows that it was moderately degraded (although not 22% degraded like the app was saying). Not to detract from the comparatively well-built CVT Subaru has chosen to put in their vehicles, manufacturers are under pressure to boost numbers (MPG being one of them, which is why manufacturers use CVTs). Service intervals are another instance where manufacturers need to keep the total cost of ownership down, thus boosting their ratings on consumer reports etc. Consumer reports highly regards the Forester, which influenced my decision to purchase this car (as well as the safety record). So while Subaru's official statement is that fluid service of the CVT is not needed, it's prudent to replace the CVT fluid every 100k miles if one plans to own the car for a long time (or 24k miles under severe service).

Great video, thank you. My Subie has 80k miles and I drive a lot in West Virginia, up and down... I’m planning on following your procedure, and I have one thing that i am unclear about. When you topped off the transmission was the car running? You said It was “heating up” so it sounds like it was. Thanks again.

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, I forgot to mention that in the video but I put it in the info section below the video. The car has to be running to get the rest of the fluid in. Temperature between 86F and 104F with fluid dribbling out while the engine runs.

Hello, did you have to do a CVT re-learn afterwards? Thx

Really helpful video. Thanks

Did you experience any decrease in mpg after using AMSOIL CVT Fluid?? what mpg no. you got with amsoil & OEM CVT Fluid?? You Experienced any hesitation or shudder after using AMSOIL CVT Fluid??

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

There's been no change in MPG. The only time the car gets sluggish is if I haven't changed out the air intake filter in a while. The transmission also likes to be warmed up, so I usually run it until the engine cold light goes off before I drive away.

WOW! this is the best CVT video Ive seen, good job. This fluid was never changed before and was still in great shape?

@max-weber

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it turns out the 22% CVT Deterioration rate estimated in the App didn't correlate with the lab analysis I had done of the fluid. They said the condition of the fluid was consistent with CVT fluid they analyze with 50k miles. Still good to get fresh (higher quality) fluid in there, as apparently these valve bodies have been having issues.

@ArmstrongRacing

6 жыл бұрын

So its safe to say 100k is a good time to change it? Or earlier?

@max-weber

6 жыл бұрын

That's what amsoil recommends, but subaru claims the fluid is lifetime.

@happyhappyhani

6 жыл бұрын

So all I’ve seen for cars is the dump and fill technique. Do most cars have that outlet so you can extract most of the fluid while the car is on? I have a Prius, which has a cvt (obviously) wondering if I can do the same.

@max-weber

6 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure Priuses have a transmission cooler. I think it's offered as an option but it might not be on every model.

Great explanation, only problem is fluid that was used, NEVER USE anything other than OEM Subaru CVTF-2 Fluid in this generation Transmission, should be teal green in color NOT gold.

how much does CVT fluid fit in?

Hey buddy, great video. I purchased the Obd2 scanner that you recommended but cannot find transmission temperature on menu, any ideas?

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

You'll need the ActiveOBD app for Subaru: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.activeobd.app&hl=en_US

Really great video. Thank you for making it. Will this be the same for the 2014 touring?

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, as long as its the non-turbo

Is the outlet hose same as 2012 impreza?

22:23 what is the app you used to read the CVT fluid temperature? thanks.

@max-weber

6 жыл бұрын

ActiveOBD for Android. Use the OBD tool linked in the description because some won't read the CVT data.

Crush washer was set wrong. Flat side on the bolt side and round side facing the pan.

is there anywhere that i could find the written procedure/ instructions for doing this?

@max-weber

7 жыл бұрын

There is no procedure in the factory service manual for a transmission flush. They have a writeup for a drain and fill though. If you google "subaru forester factory service manual" you should find a place to get it. Most service shops will hook into the cooler lines to flush a transmission, which is what the subaru specialist in my area does.

I read elsewhere you can get the CVT fluid changed at the dealer for $289. Not sure if that's just the drain and fill, or what you did. Yours is probably more thorough.

@MicahFunk

Жыл бұрын

From what I've heard from my local transmission rebuilder is the factory service manual calls for a 'drain and fill' for the maintenance.

What if you just want to check the cvt fluid level? Do you have to warm it up first to reach in the hole and see if it's filled up, or can it be done cold?? I found a small leak near a bolt and I'm not sure if something splashed or if I have a slow leak.... so I wanna check and be safe. Thanks!!

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

You would have to do it with the engine running, otherwise you will get about 2 quarts of fluid out of the check plug when you unscrew it. You have to have it under 86F otherwise you will get fluid coming out as well. So... cold engine (preferrably left off overnight), jack the car up and get under it, start the car and let it run. Open the check plug and wait for the temp to get to 86F. Ideally you want it to start dribbling out fluid in the middle of the 86F-104F temperature range (so about 95F)which would indicate proper fluid level. If you get over 104F and fluid still hasnt start dribbling out, then you are low on fluid. You will have to close the plug, shut off the car, wait for it to cool down again, then start it back up, take the check plug off, wait for it to get to 86F then top off the fluid until you get a small dribble out the check plug, then close the check plug and shut the car off again. (all this because subaru doesn't want end users servicing their own transmissions)

nice diy

Do CVTs utilize fluid in the same way that traditional automatics do? Are there issues with changing out old fluid? Any changes in characteristics with the CVT by using the Amsoil fluid?

@max-weber

6 жыл бұрын

In alot of ways the fluid is used the same way, but CVT fluid is formulated to keep the chain/belt engaged and not slipping. If the chain/belt slips, that's a major no bueno. The fluid also needs to function well in the valve body (like a regular automatic tranny would) which hydraulically controls the transmission. The torque converter uses the fluid in a similar way as well. I noticed that after I put in the amsoil fluid, I am getting better engagement of the torque converter as well as smoother valve body activity (when the transmission adjusts depending on load, speed, etc) I think the amsoil fluid definitely exceeds the needs of this CVT, but since it was actually cheaper than the factory fluid (and I'm out of warranty), I decided to go with it. I've put about 20,000 miles on the car since this video and have had no issues.

@rbh00723

5 жыл бұрын

Hey max I'm not completely sure about this however I've been told by a friend at the dealer the subaru is providing warranty on the trans for certain models to 150K

@abrahamabraham7629

5 жыл бұрын

@@max-weber Hola max weber Una consulta: por que no le pusiste ATF CVT valvoline full sintetico ? Que diferencia el aceite cvt amsoil versus el aceite cvt valvoline ? espero me puedas responder saludos

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

@@abrahamabraham7629 Llamé a Amsoil por teléfono y me dijeron que su fluido funciona para la transmisión TR580 y TR690. Si desea utilizar Valvoline, debe llamarlos o enviarlos por correo electrónico y preguntarles también.

@abrahamabraham7629

5 жыл бұрын

@@max-weber gracias por todo

I have a problem, I am hoping you have some recommendations that will help me. I was changing my fr diff fluid. I opened a fill plug on the driver side. MISTAKE.and pumped around two qts into the converter. Now I need to remove it. I found the correct fill plug on the passenger side. You mention in your video do not use different products. So I gather I should purchase Subaru CVT fluid. Or should I buy ams CVT flush and replace the 12 qts.

@max-weber

4 жыл бұрын

oh man, yeah it might be a good idea to try and flush it out of there.

Thank you regards

What everyone nevers says is you have to have the engine running to have the CVT pump going in order to fill in the CVT while getting it to temp.

The obd connector that you used to check the CVT temperature will it work with all obd 2 cars

@max-weber

7 жыл бұрын

The OBD LX reader that plugs into the OBDII port will work on any car, however the app I used to get the CVT temp is specific to Subaru cars (ActiveOBD). I believe you need to search for an app for your car that can read the additional information coming from the onboard computers, TCU etc. I will say that if you have a CVT cooler, the temperature of your CVT fluid will be almost identical to your coolant temperature. If you can read the coolant temperature you will have a good idea how hot the CVT is.

@Alexscott100

7 жыл бұрын

Max Weber ok yeah I have a cooler that is right with the radiator and condenser

@SteedDigital1

7 жыл бұрын

OBDII is a standard(thankfully). any car with the port (pretty much everything after 1995 has one) will work with an OBDII scanner.

man you need to look into the tool Mercedes has its a hand pump and it pumps the fluid back up through the drain plug was easier faster and cleaner ( about $140) well worth it works on most metric cars

@jochamtubeit

2 жыл бұрын

Can u plz share link of this pump ?

2 Things: 1. Why did you opt not to drop the pan? Is there a filter in that transmission that needs to be changed? 2. Cambro makes better containers than rubbermaid ;) Very informative though, great job.

@max-weber

6 жыл бұрын

Haha thanks. I didn't drop the pan because it's a liquid gasket and I wanted to avoid having to re-seal it. There's a strainer in the pan that can be cleaned or replaced, but the paper filter is deep inside the CVT and would require complete disassembly of the transmission to replace.

@manuellopez-pm8ib

6 жыл бұрын

I have a 2010 Subaru Legacy the at oil temp is flashing went is running what can be wrong with it

@max-weber

6 жыл бұрын

I would hook up an OBDII reader and see what code you're getting. There's a number of things that could be happening: Bad sensor, pump wearing out, some other kind of glitch with the TCU. That's something I would consider beyond amateur mechanic capability (take it into a transmission shop for diagnosis)

@markmedvedev3135

4 жыл бұрын

In those CVT's, filter is only accessible if you drop the tranny

@JamesAnderson-mr2sg

3 ай бұрын

​@@manuellopez-pm8ib I had the same issue, multiple codes ,fixed o2 code , then the check engine went out, getting some intermeittany with valve body in Trans, at light is now off

so, how many total botttles of 2.5 us gal (9.46L) of fluid did you use? i'm about to do it on my wife's 15 base model (75+k) soon as well. thanks for your video, it really helps.. thanks Max

@max-weber

3 жыл бұрын

I used almost all of it. Basically just flush as much as you need. I did an extra long flush so you might not need to do it as long as I did. Leave yourself at least a couple quarts so you can top off later.

Any update on how the car is doing with the Amsoil fluid? Anything you'd do different if you had 20/20 hindsight?

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

40,000 miles on the new fluid with no issues. It looks like there are aftermarket gaskets for the transmission pan since I last made this video. I might have tried dropping the pan if there was a gasket available when I made this video.

Hi. There are many transmissions lost pressure after changed CVT oil. Does CVT oil need to chang? Subaru use book tell us CVT doesn't need to change. One more question why don't you use Subaru CVT oil ? Any special for AMS Oil. I find CVT oil DIY vedio for long time.

@MrSubaru1387

5 жыл бұрын

Correct. Subaru does not want the CVT fluid changed. They only recommend checking the condition of the fluid every 30k miles. You only replace the fluid if you find the condition of the fluid degraded/contaminated or if you tow a lot with the vehicle.

Might want to add a remote filter or stacked plate cooler

I have questions. You were adding fluid back into the CVT through the fill plug. 1st. How come you didn’t or have you tried to add the fluid with pump through the nipple on CVT where the fluid returns normally. The port where you removed hose to capture the drained fluid? By keep the fill plug open you could tell if pump was adding fluid to fast. 2nd question is the pump you used to add fluid. How much does it pump compared to the CVT pumping out? I couldn’t tell by video wether the side of catch container was measured in gallons or litters. I kinda timed after you started engine and it looks like it took appox 16 or 17 seconds to fill to first larger line in container. But was that 1 gallon or 2 litters in the time of appox 16 or 17 seconds. This was by far the best video I have seen on flushing CVT fluid.

@elsocio666

2 жыл бұрын

The electric pump handles much less oil flow than the CVT's internal pump; that's why it stops the motor every 1.5 to 2 liters of discharge. Care must be taken that the internal pump never sucks in air which can be very detrimental to the cvt transmission. In short, the tray must always contain a sufficient level of oil to avoid internal damage.

Is this compatible with TR690 newer CVT for ascent ?

Great instructional video... But I have a question could you have just hook up the pump to the line going back in the transmission vs the fill section?

@elsocio666

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it can be done perfectly with the pump connected to the return line. Two things, it is important to carry out the work with a hydraulic pump that moves more oil flow and second, to carry out an exhaustive control during the process of the oil that comes out and the one that goes into the transmission.

@jjjjjjjjjjjjkjjj

2 ай бұрын

Could you use two pumps and do with engine off? So it goes in and out at same speed so you can just turn them both on and off a close to the same time?

Dont we need any kind of filter in transmission?

So it's a year later, how is the amsoil in your Subaru doing? How many miles on the new fluid??? Any problems with the CVT?

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

35,000 miles with no issues.

Great job! Thanks for sharing this. Did you also change the filter ?

@max-weber

7 жыл бұрын

I will consider changing the filter if the valve body goes bad. Changing the valve body will require dropping the pan so I might as well throw a new strainer in as well. The paper filter can't be changed without major work, basically completely disassembling the transmission. I received a letter from subaru extending the CVT warranty to 100k because this model year has solenoid problems in the valve body.

@SteedDigital1

7 жыл бұрын

Is that why? the letter doesn't say it's why they did it.

Super job but christ who wants to go through that 😔 I moved my Forester XT on ( cvt) due to no end of issues and just 59k miles. Have a Golf DSG and have never looked back 😎

We have a 2014 Impreza with CVT. Would I be safe with 3 gallons or definitely get 5 gallons if we want to tackle this. Thanks!

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

The TR580 transmission in this video was put in these vehicles: 2012-17 Legacy/Outback 2.5L NA 2012-17 Impreza 2.0L NA 2013-15 Crosstrek 2.0L NA 2014-2017 Forester 2.5L NA So as long as your car is the naturally aspirated 2.0L Impreza you should be fine. Edit: 3 gallons is probably enough for a light flush, but you would probably be better off with 4.

Hey did you put the transmission TCU through a relearn procedure? I’ve heard this needs to be done but sounds like BS to me.

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

Generally there is no need to re-learn. The TCU is smart enough to adjust on it's own. I would just drive conservatively for the first week or two to give it a chance to adjust to changes.

Like all the AMSOIL stickers

Hi man... i have a wrx 2015 2.0T cvt.... i just changed the fluid by high torque cvt oil but i have two questions ... maybe you can help me.... i feeling like the transmission is skipping... i mean when i go under 3000 rpms the car goes smooth and fine... but when i push the gas over 3000 i felt like car makes..... rannnnnnnnnnn -- rannnnnnnnn -rannnn--... so to explain the oil change was with a pump... one line extract fluid and by the other line injects fluid...same quantity... now, i don't know if the car have more or less quantity of fluid...because it was changed with the car hot... maybe at 80 - 90 C 176 - 194 F... so what suggest to do man? I need a couple of ideas... mechanics only worked by engine bay not under the car.... i would appreciate your answer......

@max-weber

6 жыл бұрын

I dont want to scare you but that could be the chain in the CVT slipping. Was it a subaru dealer that did the fluid service? Was it OEM fluid? Its hard to tell what's going on based on the description you provide, I would take it in to either a transmission specialist or subaru specialist. If you have the TR690 transmission, checking the fluid level is tricky. You have to have the car in the air with the engine running, cycle through all the gears to get the fluid up into the tranny, then carefully open the check/fill plug with the engine running. Depending on the amount of fluid they put in, either nothing will happen or hot fluid will come rushing out. If the fluid is the correct level, once the temperature gets into the 93-113F range, it should start dribbling out as the temperature rises. That would indicate a proper fill level. I would have the shop that performed the service do this check, and I would insist on being there to supervise so they can't weasel out if it turns out they improperly filled the fluid.

Hello, great video. Can you come up with a way to flush the coolant on a Subaru Impreza, preferably a 2017-19 base . Lots of guys are pulling the lower hose And removing the thermostat. I would like to see a system where fluid is evacuated as distilled water is pumped in . Maybe utilizing a block plug to drain or the peacock valve .. let us know !!!!

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

The only Subaru I own is this forester, but I am considering a coolant change/flush in the near future.

I was going over you video again . Definitely best flush out there . Question why didn’t you drop the transmission pan and change the filter? Does the tr580 have an internal filter? Did you ever consider adding an external transmission filter? If so can you recommend one ? Amsoil has one but it’s very costly. B and m has one but reviews were mixed . Any info would be helpful.. again that flush. Is the best system out there👍 look forward to see how you handle the coolant flush !!!

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

You are correct about the filter being deep inside the transmission. You would have to tear down the transmission to get to it. There is a strainer that you could replace in the pan, but generally there shouldn't be enough material in the system to need to do it (especially if you do this flush). The pan uses a liquid gasket, I chose not to drop the pan for that reason, but if you're comfortable re-sealing the pan with liquid gasket (added cost, time, potential for leaks) then that would be a good way to get even more of the old fluid out before the flush.

@sirtimatbob

3 жыл бұрын

@@max-weber Do you have to use a liquid gasket to seal it back up or could you just use a rubber gasket?

@v0mdragon

2 жыл бұрын

@@sirtimatbob there is no oem gasket available for the tr580 in the US. so its a liquid gasket ir third party

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hows it going since the fluid change? any noticeable differences? everything good

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

Everything's going fine. About 35k miles with no issue

Very informative thank you for making this video. I have a question is the location of the cvt outlet hose the same with the 2015 forester xt fa20dit? Thanks.

@max-weber

6 жыл бұрын

Here's a picture of the CVT cooler for the turbo and non-turbo taken from the factory service manual. It appears they are the same part, but might be oriented differently in the engine bay. It appears that the outlet hose is the outside hose in both images. The inlet is the small line between the two larger coolant hoses. You're going to disconnect the outlet hose where it hooks up to the CVT. If you mistakenly disconnect the inlet hose, CVT fluid will shoot out all over the engine bay. i.imgur.com/0xy1EyN.jpg

@carloecleo7635

6 жыл бұрын

Max Weber Thank you very much!

I didn’t see this process when I was working at Subaru dealership they used to just drain the cvt fluid and refill it back up and done This process look more complicated?

@max-weber

2 жыл бұрын

That's correct, a regular drain and fill is usually fine, especially if done at regular intervals. This flush will exchange about 90% of the fluid whereas a regular drain and fill will exchange about 40%

@elsocio666

2 жыл бұрын

@@max-weber Are you still with the Subaru, Max? What mileage do you already have?

I'd like to be able to check my CVT temp

How many miles does the car have now?

Just had my At Oil Temp Light come on, code read I need to replace Torque Converter Clutch Solenoid which is Stuck Off. Does anyone know if replacing fluid can fix this? Otherwise I’m learning I need a whole replacement CVT

@elsocio666

2 жыл бұрын

You must replace the valve body and the cvt fluid.

Have you experienced any issues with the CVT with the AMSOIL fluid? I've been using Subaru CVT II fluid but that's pretty expensive.

@max-weber

4 жыл бұрын

60,000 miles with no issues

@etx007blue2

3 жыл бұрын

@@max-weber Thanks, I just did a CVT flush with the Subaru fluid. I will use Amsoil next change. Much cheaper !!!!!! But by the time I do the next change (30K), Idemitsu will probably have Subaru CVT fluid aftermarket just like the Nissan fluid.

I guess installing a transmission filling tube wouldn't make sense....they don't make it easy do they

Was this the first time you changed it? I have a 2018 Crosstrek and I'd like to know how often I have to change transmission oil. Thanks in advance for your answer.

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, first time. every 100,000 miles should be a good time (unless you drive in severe conditions like towing)

@MyLife2020

5 жыл бұрын

70000 km or 50000 mile for heavy conditions likr driving off road and driving in city most of the time

@elsocio666

4 жыл бұрын

45,000 km if you practice extreme driving, use a trailer, live in a very hot climate or climb constantly through mountain passes.

How much AMSoil CVT fluid did you use total for the whole project? Flushing and filling it ?

@max-weber

6 жыл бұрын

About 18 quarts. I purchased 5 gallons (two 2.5 gallon containers or 20 quarts) You could probably do it with less if you flush less aggressively.

@calebjared75

5 жыл бұрын

Max Weber Did you purchase your amsoil through the preferred program? Is it worth signing up for this one time purchase?

@TheDwilliams1000

5 жыл бұрын

@@max-weber where did you get the 2.5 gallon from of Amsoil Cvt fluid from?

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheDwilliams1000 it looks like they only sell it by the gallon now.

Did you get check engine light or code before you started?

@max-weber

6 жыл бұрын

Didn't get any codes or otherwise abnormal occurrences after the flush. The CVT relearns on it's own, so you want to drive modestly for the first week or two after doing this service.

Hi there, where can the clear fluid measuring container be purchased from?

@max-weber

6 жыл бұрын

www.amazon.com/Rubbermaid-Commercial-Storage-Container-FG630800CLR/dp/B00237Y0YK

There is also a filter in the cooler that should be replaced.you can see it on rockauto cost 7.79

@watercool5

3 жыл бұрын

nope. requires removing the entire tranny.

@miketemple4160

3 жыл бұрын

Watercool5, there is a filter that can be replaced with out removing the tranny,its under the hood,follow the cooling lines it's a cartridge filter.under hood left side down in back of motor.

Hi Max. What is a good gear oil to use for the front and rear diffs? I have a 2016 forester 2.5 cvt

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

I'm using Amsoil Severe gear www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/gear-lube/severe-gear-75w-90/ 100% synthetic

@edsmith4414

3 жыл бұрын

@@max-weber And I'd buy it JUST because it comes in nice squeeze bag instead of quart bottle....you won't believe how much easier it is to install a bag in a horizontal fill hole versus trying to get the last half out of a dadgum bottle you can't tip up !! WHY everybody hasn't gone to bags is beyond me.

Just wondering what you used to clean the drippege on the exhaust?

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

Oh man, I dont remember. I think I used some simple green. Something like that

Wow that fluid is dirty as hell. I wonder if i should change mine? I have 66,000 miles on my 2014. Did your CVT hesitate or shudder before doing this?

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

The CVT has never felt ideal, I'm not really a fan of them, but it's tough to find a normal automatic transmission these days. I'd wait until you're out of warranty before touching it. My lab results showed the fluid was still ok (but they said it was good I changed it out at 100k). Under normal basic usage, 100k is a good time to do it. If you're off-roading, towing, lead foot, etc you should consider at least every 50k

Hey max any idea how to purge the brake fluid from the a b s unit . I did the bleed but don’t have a scanner to simulate a purge . See units out there for older Subaru but nothing for the new ones .figured you might know .. thanks bud

@max-weber

5 жыл бұрын

Are your brakes still squishy after bleeding? There could be a number of things, but here's the Factory bleeding procedure www.scribd.com/document/397713033/2015-Forester-Air-Bleeding-Brakes I think you can use an aftermarket scantool, but I've never tried it. Here's some factory diagnostics: 3. Excessive pedal stroke (1) Entry of air into the hydraulic mechanism Bleed air. (2) Excessive play in the master cylinder push rod Adjust. (3) Fluid leakage from the hydraulic mechanism Repair or replace. (cup, piston seal, piston boot, master cylinder piston kit, pipe or hose)