2015 Maps of Meaning Lecture 02b: Object and Meaning (Part 2)

University of Toronto PSY434
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January 14, 2015
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  • @johndalenino
    @johndalenino3 жыл бұрын

    27:48 for the Rat story

  • @kek397

    @kek397

    2 жыл бұрын

    "The rat's like this...."

  • @sen6449

    @sen6449

    2 жыл бұрын

    I owe you my life

  • @BritneyGrills
    @BritneyGrills5 жыл бұрын

    I'll forever look back on the moment I discovered Jordan Peterson as the moment that completely changed my life. Thank you doctor!!

  • @johnqpublic2718

    @johnqpublic2718

    Жыл бұрын

    God dam this is annoying

  • @amanjha3020

    @amanjha3020

    Жыл бұрын

    I will too, when I started these lectures of Peterson, now I just hope I will be able to withstand the suffering needed to create a better life.

  • @urielalbertodiazreynoso6309

    @urielalbertodiazreynoso6309

    Жыл бұрын

    the rat is like this

  • @lunaflamed

    @lunaflamed

    Жыл бұрын

    DITTO!! SAVED MY LIFE!!!

  • @sputnik4632

    @sputnik4632

    Жыл бұрын

    lmao loser, pick up a football or something

  • @gekkoberry371
    @gekkoberry3714 жыл бұрын

    Lmao the "cleanse by fire" idea is so deeply rooted in me after years of depression and hatred towards mankind. I've recently decided to work through it and try to change my mind. You're helping a lot.

  • @anthonyp2024

    @anthonyp2024

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wish you well! I have every confidence in you that you have the ability and the power to make things better!

  • @johncrocker4209

    @johncrocker4209

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can't remember if it was Peterson or someone else but I heard. "A good man is someone capable of violence but chooses not to. A man incapable is just a sheep." In my youth I have felt similar to the feelings expressed in your statement. If you give yourself enough time and put effort into finding a fulfilling purpose. You could be the best of us.

  • @VM-gg7be

    @VM-gg7be

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johncrocker4209 that's Peterson. He really jumps into that idea when talking about the "Meek" shall inherent from the Beatitudes. Meek does not mean what we all assume it means. Good luck!

  • @lunaflamed

    @lunaflamed

    Жыл бұрын

    Updates?! Hope you are well

  • @gekkoberry371

    @gekkoberry371

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lunaflamed I'm doing quite ok! Funnily enough, I've found Christianity partially thanks to Peterson just like many others have 😂I'm only reading up on it and not exactly religious, but it's been helping a bit. I'm still pretty pessimistic, but not as bad as before. Thanks for asking 😊

  • @JebeTheGreat
    @JebeTheGreat5 жыл бұрын

    *YOU'RE READY MAN* 30:23

  • @RareTechniques

    @RareTechniques

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hahahahahhaa YES!

  • @atakemalsemerci

    @atakemalsemerci

    3 жыл бұрын

    gets me every, damned, time

  • @HeliosEffect

    @HeliosEffect

    3 жыл бұрын

    LMAOO ty for this

  • @mhbackman
    @mhbackman4 жыл бұрын

    "Why are you wearing jeans? - So other primates don't think you're insane."

  • @OhWaker
    @OhWaker6 жыл бұрын

    25:07 "You should be nose-deep in that stuff nonstop. But you're not. Why? What's wrong with you people?" *laughs* *rubs nose*

  • @TheMDLHCrew

    @TheMDLHCrew

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oh Waker I know a guy who used to be addicted to coke and he still rubs his nose when it's mentioned. Maybe Peterson had a stint with it

  • @finneganmcbride6224

    @finneganmcbride6224

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mike Ritenour Peterson is t addicted to coke. He’s addicted to Coke Zero.

  • @Iyad46gamer
    @Iyad46gamer3 жыл бұрын

    30:00 In my country (North Africa), we've been attending lectures under a fragile roof for years knowing that one day it'll collapse and it did collapse on a rainy day. No one got hurt fortunately.

  • @cabbage9926
    @cabbage99267 жыл бұрын

    I've seen a 1600s Anatomy Theatre in Italy. It was a stunningly beautiful room of wood and marble. The theatres resemble the ancient amphitheatres that you'd find in the countryside. It's neat if you consider that they contained their disgust using theatrical escapism as a form of detachment.

  • @zorgate

    @zorgate

    2 жыл бұрын

    wow. smart comment. underrated.

  • @NoCoastBENT

    @NoCoastBENT

    Жыл бұрын

    hysteric!

  • @eisenwerks6388
    @eisenwerks63885 жыл бұрын

    34:59 dat 4th wall break right into the viewer's soul.

  • @viktordimitrov4715
    @viktordimitrov4715 Жыл бұрын

    I am convinced that Jung died on the 6th of June 1961 and a year and six days later - on the 12th of June 1962 he was reborn as JBP cause the world just needed that wisdom and wouldn't go on right without it.

  • @AdurianJ
    @AdurianJ7 жыл бұрын

    I have a better Soviet ceiling anecdote for you. Nikita Khrushchev famously complained about the immense size and weight of chandeliers. It turned out that workers at a Moscow lamp factory were awarded bonuses for production measured in tons. The chandeliers they produced grew ever heavier until they led to a rash of ceiling collapses.

  • @iamagi

    @iamagi

    7 жыл бұрын

    AdurianJ hmm I have Read to many stories just like this one to believe that an insentive structure that produced results like this would last long enough for so many similar stories to be possible

  • @flynner1997

    @flynner1997

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for that piece of knowledge

  • @eisenwerks6388

    @eisenwerks6388

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@iamagi It lasted half a century and involved hundreds of millions of people. 3 girls in a bathroom for 10 minutes yields dozens of snapchat stories, do that math.

  • @phyothiha6374
    @phyothiha63743 жыл бұрын

    God bless you, Dr. JP. Love sent from Burma

  • @LetsFindOut1
    @LetsFindOut15 жыл бұрын

    12:54 " Jung said... one of the purposes of religious structures is to keep people from having religious experiences..."

  • @OmarDelawar

    @OmarDelawar

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don't really understand it cause I am too dumb, why is this such a profound statement again? Enlighten me.

  • @OmarDelawar

    @OmarDelawar

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Sam Farza Thanks Sam, I think I am getting it now having experienced a life crises that almost ended up in suicide. I totally get it now. Carl Jung was brilliant.

  • @silasmarup-dalsten4073
    @silasmarup-dalsten4073 Жыл бұрын

    AND THE RAT GOES LIKE THIS 🫳😳🫳

  • @ZonRuc
    @ZonRuc7 жыл бұрын

    Hats off, superb!

  • @RosaBrandDesigns
    @RosaBrandDesigns5 жыл бұрын

    Mind blown. Never had I considered asking the question, "Why are you not afraid?" Particularly when engaging in something unknown or going to an unfamiliar place. I've struggled with inadequacy, but thought it was just that I had a low self esteem. Now I realize that what I'm doing is self preservation. That's not to say I shouldn't try something new, go somewhere I've never been, etc. Instead, it is rational for me to have apprehension or some nervousness until I feel "safe." What's especially interesting is that this sensation doesn't abate with age, but actually increases. I wonder if that is due to how hard-wired our brains become as we get older. There's a resiliency among young people--I felt fearless in my youth--which allows for better adjustments to change. I imagine that is due to the fact the world is still new and a wild place--an unknown. Fascinating, Dr. Peterson. Thank you for sharing this lecture with us. You're such a blessing to me!

  • @ConnThaDon

    @ConnThaDon

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think that anxiety, once you accept that it is a necessary function/emotion, you can harness the negative feelings for long term positive results. I have honestly made some of the quickest and positive life changes as a result of an unpleasant anxiety episode. And the daily minor worries seem to keep my memory and cognitive function on point. There were times where I didn't stop and remind myself that the discomfort is temporary. When I didn't force myself to act urgently upon the sense of dread, the anxiety seemed to build up slowly. It was after several of these occasions I was on the verge of having a panic attack. I try to seek a healthy level of anxiety to deter complacency. I am always striving for better because if I'm not making improvements, I'm getting worse over time by staying complacent.

  • @ConnThaDon

    @ConnThaDon

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think, by recognizing anxiety and other negative emotions as

  • @arosrealtylondon
    @arosrealtylondon Жыл бұрын

    Must listen video,so much knowledge

  • @wowwowwow185
    @wowwowwow1854 жыл бұрын

    now i know why i'm frightened all time my life was total chaos ,,for years i tried to rescue people became what they call co dependent

  • @katrinavenecia686
    @katrinavenecia6867 жыл бұрын

    Nahahahaha!!... 32:20 "none of you are stark naked and most of you aren't foaming at the mouth"... Jesus. Thanks for that one.

  • @helenbostock2350
    @helenbostock23502 жыл бұрын

    I glad you love and are now more than ever enjoyed your time in the leach ture. So it's ok now.

  • @justinwhipperman3672
    @justinwhipperman36729 жыл бұрын

    The piece on disgust was particularly excellent in my opinion. Regarding disgust and totalitarian thinking, one thing interested me that wasn't mentioned: There's a paradox in which easily disgusted people tend to eroticize extremely disgusting things. An example would be a criminal priest. On the one hand he's high in the dominance hierarchy of a purity religion, including a mandatory initiation of water immersion for cleansing and a purer water birth. So extreme is it, that it's believed that a single sin corrupts and invalidate the entire being, and this cleansing is needed. Everybody's familiar with it, but consider how often terms like "carnal" and "flesh" are used in a derogatory way. Purity and perfection are constant. To stay pure of this extreme view of disgust, the priest is celibate for life, and virginity is idolized in "The Virgin Mary" (note it's not "Mary the Virgin", emphasis their own). Yet these men regularly molest little children, paradoxically corrupting innocence, so much so it's an epidemic in the Church. It makes sense though. From the priest's perspective, these kids are soon to grow up and "lose their innocence" to many impure thoughts and actions. The priest is (from theirs and the community's perspective) a pillar of this sort of purity. In effect, the perfect individual to initiate the most innocent children "purely" into the corruption of adulthood, rather than letting "the world" inevitably do it. They may even privately experience delusions of self-sacrifice and martyrdom, "I did this for you." From the priest's perspective, being the holy initiation to puberty and masturbation and sexual development must be how the molestations are convoluted into a pure act. This may also be why they target little boys particularly. To this end, this sort of mentality seems to go berserk when the highly disgusted individual converges with arrogance and declares themselves pure after a long history of related ritual (Hitler's bathing many times a day, veganism, etc.). At that juncture, as with Hitler, they anoint themselves to begin "cleansing" process, which is when they make contact with their sense of disgust and perpetrate the paradoxically disgusting behavior, thus viewing themselves as a sort of release valve, filter, or conduit to a broader purity. This may be the destiny of very disgusted people and the latter end of their rituals once they feel they're sufficiently cleansed to begin scouring their projections.

  • @m.h.2202

    @m.h.2202

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think your analysis is overly speculative and limited due to its anti-Catholicism. The reality is much simpler. Pedophiles tend to desire positions where they can get access to their prey and also respected positions where people trust them. Men with very strong disordered sexual desires and a lack of interest in adult women have sometimes sought out the priesthood in order to hide and pretend to be normal for being unmarried men. I don't think there is anything about the Catholic priesthood which in itself turns men into pedophillic monsters; the overwhelming majority of priests aren't like that and I think these pedophiles would have sought out other avenues for their desires if they hadn't priests. But unfortunately due to lax controls at various points predators have been allowed to get away with their crimes and that is where the real scandal lies.

  • @AngelBien

    @AngelBien

    Жыл бұрын

    Weird take

  • @user-co6rg9jt9x
    @user-co6rg9jt9x2 ай бұрын

    The rat impression was just amazing 😂😂

  • @Cinderella227
    @Cinderella2272 жыл бұрын

    Bravo!!!👏🏻 We don’t create value!!! 👍🏻

  • @andrewnock2675
    @andrewnock26756 жыл бұрын

    thus spoke zarathustra was a book evaluating the historical prophet of the ancient religion zorastrianism, who worship the purity of fire. i didnt know its historical significange past Nietzsche until recently. and jordan doesnt really mention it when talking about the book.

  • @harveygraham8135
    @harveygraham81357 жыл бұрын

    Great on so many levels. I wish i'd heard you in my 20s. Your lectures make me smarter so thanks. A question in regard to dominance hierarchies, you fail to mention that many at the top top top of dominance hierarchies throughout history are products of heritage and nepotism. King, I.E. there was no need for ability to rise to the top and yet they were there. could common man have subconsciously or biologically what have you have invented a man of humble beginnings to be a light that anyone can become at the top of the dominant hierarchy. And if thoughts like this began to undermine power structures is it not feasible that they would seek to corrupt it in some way. Which i presume you will agree with. But primarily i'd like to know your thoughts on how prevalent nepotism in "tribes" contributes to your theory of dominance hierarchies.

  • @MarcusEMunya

    @MarcusEMunya

    6 жыл бұрын

    Harvey Graham I think nepotism is a part of the hierarchy itself, to the extent that it maintains or strengthens social relationships among those at the top of the dominance hierarchy. For example, marriages of power. I base this on one of petersons other lectures where he mentions that apes at the very top of the dominance hierarchy WILL be overthrown if they don't maintain enough mutually beneficial relationships with subordinate members of the hierarchy because two apes of 3/4 his strength can easily overthrow them. So, in answer to your question, the brute Force or power of one individual head of any dominance hierarchy over his subordinates must also be tempered by the maintenance of a positive relationship with those subordinates. I think you can see how the monarchy of France fell pray to this by belittling the needs by those at the bottom of the hierarchy to the breaking point where enough people with enough power felt aggrieved enough to violently overthrow them. That's just my unresearched understanding from JBPs lectures though.

  • @lucasdarianschwendlervieir3714

    @lucasdarianschwendlervieir3714

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes I think that's correct doobedoo, the short answer is that tyranny is not a sustainable solution, and powerful non-competent order will soon collapse unless it reforms itself, an example being the French revolution and other revolutions.

  • @IamMunyan123

    @IamMunyan123

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is a great question. Also, there’s not a chance in heaven or hell that he’s going to read your question or answer it. Just FYI.

  • @labornurse

    @labornurse

    4 жыл бұрын

    Even those who only "earned " their dominance through heredity were still able to have their pick of the choicest females, so that increases your chances of siring dominant offspring. So they still won, even if they were not as " superior " as their original noble ancestor.

  • @woodfamily5229

    @woodfamily5229

    7 ай бұрын

    Read ‘Will to Power’. It’s on his reading list. Cheers.

  • @sthembileklaas5637
    @sthembileklaas5637 Жыл бұрын

    "so other primates don't think you're insane" 😂😂😂😂

  • @Kaihku
    @Kaihku4 жыл бұрын

    8:55 Does someone know who's the environmentalist J.B.P. is talking about? I've tried to find the TEDx speech without success.

  • @jamesunderwood8423
    @jamesunderwood84236 жыл бұрын

    5 "stark naked" and "foaming at the mouth" people disliked this video.

  • @chiaki6030
    @chiaki60303 жыл бұрын

    How do I learn not to be afraid of wasps? I practice "exposure therapy" (involuntarily) every summer, but it doesn't seem to help..

  • @chiaki6030

    @chiaki6030

    Жыл бұрын

    @Jack Millward Thanks for your answer. I was bit before, but that is not the source of my fear. It is not the pain I fear I think. It is more of a loss of control: flying insects have pretty unpredictable movements, and wasps are known to attack even when they are not provoked. So they are little unpredictable flying psychopaths... I'm not sure how I can learn not to react instinctively.

  • @marmeryside
    @marmeryside6 жыл бұрын

    14:23 in my personal view the human being cannot be saved by himself. Even he is wandering to be far away to every ideological possesion that appears to him through history, and searches for this place of which everything emerges (that place every pragmatic attends like "drink the water"), in my case that place was found (and not created like some created value) by faith. That impossible thing to explain, can be maybe inside biology in some deep level of analysis. Why female need that kind of men, in the core of creation, the nurture. To be nourished. We want a men, or we want God in essence?. To be loved, from core to every thing created. Thanks professor Peterson for your classes, I really enjoy them!

  • @spennny1000
    @spennny1000 Жыл бұрын

    Love it

  • @matthewgillam149
    @matthewgillam1494 жыл бұрын

    27:10 my nickname at school, and unfortunately throughout the subsequent years of my life, was "Ratty". Almost every time I would come home my partner would be angry, either with me or about something else. It is no wonder she is now my ex-partner. I feel for my fellow brethren when that damned light would come on.

  • @JWu-jt7fz
    @JWu-jt7fz3 жыл бұрын

    "Most of you aren't foaming at the mouth" 32:20 Wait.. that means there are some that are foaming at the mouth?

  • @vothaison
    @vothaison3 жыл бұрын

    No rat was hurt during this lecture.

  • @AllieMoonSailor
    @AllieMoonSailor5 жыл бұрын

    “This old computer, I don’t know if it’s correct.”

  • @visicircle
    @visicircle6 ай бұрын

    "Why are you all wearing jeans? So other primates don't think you're insane." -JBP, 2015

  • @daedra40
    @daedra4011 ай бұрын

    30:23 - this is what I dream JBP will one day say to me.

  • @llallogan
    @llallogan3 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't think value creation would be somethibg like forcing yourself to study for 3 hours, rather thinking in terms of Tolstoy's confessions, an alternative solution exists besides faith and religion. In Buddhism, arguably, there is a style of thinking which would basically show that you can't count on anything, not even religion. Clinging to something would be like clinging to another person as you're falling. You might think it stops you, but you're still falling. The solution in some sense would be to recognize the nihilism, something like Bodhidarma's "Vast emptiness, nothing holy." Thinking in terms of his description of post modernity: rejection of grand narratives. Buddhism also rejects grant narratives, especially Chan or Zen Buddhism. Whereas religion solves Tolstoy's problem by a trick, by positing a structure like religion to keep score and so make the finite meaningful against the infinite, Buddhism accepts the worst possible scenario: vast emptiness, nothing holy. And within that, within acceptance of nihilism and nothingness, it finds something else. Something like Camus' quote "In the midst of winter, I found there was, within me, an invincible summer." That is, when you take it all away and accept death and the fact that nothing means anything and really go far out on that view and really accept it and face it, at the end of it you don't run out of meaning, but find it again. Rather all of the fear of nihilism really comes from not pushing hard enough on the bounds, almost like looking over a cliff at the end of religion, but not actually jumping.

  • @armanatarodi2181
    @armanatarodi21813 жыл бұрын

    Free therapy session. That's what this is.

  • @stacierosario
    @stacierosario Жыл бұрын

    I just wanna know why he's talking about the normal rat

  • @sparta117corza
    @sparta117corza6 жыл бұрын

    3:20 wait a minute!

  • @pan-shot4900
    @pan-shot49003 жыл бұрын

    i’m looking for a JP basic explanation on GOD. I’ve never heard anyone interpret religion like he does but I cant find any videos of him breaking religion down to a very basic level. I always thought catholicism was to be taking literally .

  • @RareTechniques
    @RareTechniques5 жыл бұрын

    30:23-25 YOU'RE REeaDY, mAAAn

  • @Cinderella227
    @Cinderella2272 жыл бұрын

    ❤️

  • @xcreeperxplodius5202
    @xcreeperxplodius52022 жыл бұрын

    Who else came here looking the rats?

  • @hugh_maniac

    @hugh_maniac

    Жыл бұрын

    You are now a normal rat

  • @leversandpulleys9274

    @leversandpulleys9274

    Жыл бұрын

    Me. I've found a ton of knowledge instead. grateful

  • @pdxeddie1111
    @pdxeddie11116 жыл бұрын

    when people claim to be moral atheists do you believe they are full of it?

  • @dexstewart2450

    @dexstewart2450

    6 жыл бұрын

    When people base their morality of a hope of heaven or a fear of hell, then you know they are morally corrupt. people can be moral without the need for an imaginary friend

  • @pdxeddie1111

    @pdxeddie1111

    6 жыл бұрын

    I don't see how because atheism excludes all possibility of anything transcendent and morality is a truth derived from the transcendent but if one is the measure of all things then that morality is relative to whatever is in vogue. Which really is no morality at all just a loose bit of guidelines that can be moved whenever the need arises, like the fact that humans have no intrinsic value whats so ever. Do you agree?

  • @dexstewart2450

    @dexstewart2450

    6 жыл бұрын

    You can transcend who you are - which, if you listen to JBP, is something that he states that we can do: I note that you avoid addressing the moral decrepitude of those that need an Overseer to be moral. Morality is not a truth derived from the transcendent - it's your own personal system of values. If you rely on a vengeful deity to keep you moral - then you really aren't a moral person, just a coward

  • @pdxeddie1111

    @pdxeddie1111

    6 жыл бұрын

    well I see you avoided my first question also so who cares?

  • @dexstewart2450

    @dexstewart2450

    6 жыл бұрын

    What first question ? You made some statement that sounds good but actually means nothing wrt to Transcendence - and I did address transcendence as being part of the development of a person changing: it helps if the statements are cogent instead of being hermetically cyclic

  • @iggycrow
    @iggycrow4 жыл бұрын

    'wot aboot the'Lone Gunman'...Aye?

  • @aryanagarwal2357
    @aryanagarwal2357 Жыл бұрын

    29:55 🤯🤯

  • @michaels3429
    @michaels3429 Жыл бұрын

    10 ad breaks in one drive to work

  • @TellTheTruth_and_ShameTheDevil
    @TellTheTruth_and_ShameTheDevil3 ай бұрын

    How was the Rat like again? 😂

  • @josephprever
    @josephprever3 жыл бұрын

    THAT'S the normal rat

  • @finneganmcbride6224

    @finneganmcbride6224

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • @johnrutter3985
    @johnrutter39857 жыл бұрын

    blue hair

  • @charlieladd2206
    @charlieladd22066 жыл бұрын

    I've tried cocaine, it's not even that great of a drug.

  • @victorbingo3205

    @victorbingo3205

    6 жыл бұрын

    Charlie Ladd you tried coke that was stepped on like a dance floor. Pharmaceutical grade cocaine would blow your mind.

  • @IamMunyan123

    @IamMunyan123

    4 жыл бұрын

    *calls police on both of you

  • @ricardoalmeida4719
    @ricardoalmeida47197 жыл бұрын

    Aren't the Universal Human Rights a good base for a moral system not predicated on religion? Giving as options of non religious moral systems of value the Nazi Germany (allied with the church and led by a religious fanatic), Russia from Stalin, Mao's China and North Korea "necrocracy" (as Hitchens put it) is weird. As Hitchens said: "You'd have to point to a society that adopted the teachings of Lucretius, Spinoza, Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, Albert Einstein, and then fell into famine, dictatorship, torture, and genocide. And you won't, I think, be able to point to such."

  • @MrCatchMeIfYouCan31

    @MrCatchMeIfYouCan31

    7 жыл бұрын

    The UHR are based on religious principles rooted in the western culture. Also, I may be wrong but I don't believe the Nazi Germany was "allied" with any Church. Also, what Church? The Catholic Church? And what do you mean by "ally"?Most rumors about that subject came from the USSR who disliked the very idea of religion. Also, I don't remember Hitler having any religious opinions about the Jews. To be fair, I don't even consider nazism/fascism an ideology with religious idea. They actually went pretty mental with paganism and all sorts of esoteric non-sense.

  • @jasperlocke2973

    @jasperlocke2973

    7 жыл бұрын

    Only Himmler, Hitler called the resurrection of the old gods as silly. In Table Talks, Hitler reconstructs Jesus as an Aryan.

  • @iamagi

    @iamagi

    7 жыл бұрын

    MrCatchMeIfYouCan31 that the parts in UHR are a part of vareus religion is not an argument. these principles will lead to a very good outcome for the group if discovered and be a copedative advantage. so we wouldn't still have them in some form.

  • @billylee376

    @billylee376

    5 жыл бұрын

    Religion and culture are such powerful vehicles for values because it frames said values within a greater narrative that's been distilled from thousands of years of human behavior. It is not something that is easily replaceable. People like Thomas Jefferson were simply drawing from existing intellectual frameworks that have taken centuries to establish. A system that's been uprooted from it's founding elements is just a flimsy collection of superficial ideas that are at the complete mercy of the political climate, as they are not anchored by weight of history, and lack emotional or intellectual gravitas that can deeply appeal to the individual. Peterson uses the failed Communist regimes as examples because 100's of millions of human lives is not something you can just wave away. It is an indictment of the kind of ideas that are making a big comeback, and it warrants furious criticism based on past results, which no one half-intelligent wants repeated.

  • @user-ur9to8rs4b
    @user-ur9to8rs4b4 жыл бұрын

    Blue haired Peterson 9:43

  • @greendeane1
    @greendeane16 жыл бұрын

    The news carried today a story that Richard Dawkins said that while all religions are bad some are more bad and we should not ditch a not-so-bad one -- Christianity -- in the face of a bad one -- Islam.

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm8 ай бұрын

    Just like cops, support sons don't last forever here on earth.

  • @dogg724
    @dogg7248 жыл бұрын

    You should check out Sam Harris' "The Moral Landscape."

  • @fpxy00

    @fpxy00

    7 жыл бұрын

    dogg724 Sam In my opinon has a bit naive view of morality.

  • @jonathanames8899

    @jonathanames8899

    7 жыл бұрын

    sounded like he came from a point of view that scientists or whomever can design morality. That's total bullshit, and communism has proven it and the (insufficient) backlash against artificialization of behavior trough politically correct policing is proving it again. Now if he's saying that scientists should FIND the most atavistic and biological sources of our morality so we can understand it and deal with it better, then that would be somewhat more productive. Otherwise it's just scientists AND ideologues trying to reinvent the wheel and BREAKING everything in the process

  • @dogg724

    @dogg724

    7 жыл бұрын

    They can account for human suffering in objective ways. I don't find that claim from the book particularly difficult to accept. We should be able to label "religious" practices that maim young girls bad, objectively, because we know enough about the human body to not demonize a clitoris. I don't know how or why you consider making assessments like that tantamount to communism. The mountains and valleys of things we consider more or less moral can be informed by a better scientific understanding of ourselves.

  • @iMedTube

    @iMedTube

    7 жыл бұрын

    You should check out "Brainwashed: The Seductive Appeal of Mindless Neuroscience". It exposes the naive oversimplifications made by Sam Harris and many others.

  • @dogg724

    @dogg724

    7 жыл бұрын

    I've actually caught that one already and generally agree with its premise. The Moral Landscape doesn't rely on neuroscience as the basis for an objective case for morality.

  • @owjanshahmiri7038
    @owjanshahmiri7038 Жыл бұрын

    Disgust is a clear definition for me when I see somebody with purposefully ugly haircut. And if its green or blue I feel I need fire to correct it.

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm8 ай бұрын

    I believe uc system is causing sin and would like my Christian faith protected.

  • @eclipsewolf9451
    @eclipsewolf945110 ай бұрын

    This lecture has so much out of context meme potential

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm8 ай бұрын

    I am seeking God's help for how to talk about chemicals in the presence of my mom without sinning against god.

  • @user-ur9to8rs4b
    @user-ur9to8rs4b4 жыл бұрын

    Blue haired Peterson 9:43