This entire lecture series is absolutely brilliant. The good professor is pushing ideas that don't really get voiced at all in academia let alone modern society (which is rife with scientism and a deep confusion about itself). I feel like going through this lecture series acts as a kind of self-therapy because I can identify where these archetypes manifest in my life and in my culture (home, workplace, society, etc).

@thExoticAries

7 жыл бұрын

astrixx well said, Peterson has definitely offered an impeccable framework of understanding

@Sean-D

Жыл бұрын

This is so true

this is most intellectual professor I've ever know

As a teacher, I feel like so many parents' problem is that they want their kid to be better than every other kid. Which of course is impossible, so parents are never satisfied.

Thank you Dr. Peterson! There is so much meaning in your lectures! Pretty unique in western culture!

Really enjoying all the videos in this feed. I am only a fiction writer, but the themes that Peter touches on in his coursework always has relevance for characterization for a novelist.

@daisy8284

6 жыл бұрын

Pablo Greene a "fiction writer" should know that the grammatically correct verb in that sentence is "have" and not "has."

@andrewyang2320

6 жыл бұрын

Peter? You mean Peter Jordanson?

@IIIIIIIIIIIllllllIIIIIIIIIII

6 жыл бұрын

Maybe he is not writing in english.

I always get so wrapped up in the lecture that I forget to push "like"

This is so intensly in depth. Jordan is explaining concepts so well, my brain needed a break. I paused at 30:35.

I like the image: you can’t classify the artistic activities of “creative people’, because creative people are always pushing against the normal into new directions.

00:24:00 Carl Jung and absolute good/evil 00:25:00 cultural relativism and WWII 00:28:00 Hiedegger and Pure Being 00:29:00 Agreeable People and their father 00:39:00 the tyrannical father

Amazing how I came upon your lecture just after having a talk about the dual nature of humans and how keeping the maniacal murderous part under control (by being in close contact with it) is what separates the human Being from the bio-robotic bipedal animal. My emotions, whenever transmuted into fantasies are more brutal than any film I've ever seen. I consider the world lucky for not having me unhinged and on the loose. Synchronicities never cease to amaze me. Once again thank you for your amazing work Dr. Peterson and thank you for inspiring me to keep learning and improving myself, refining my faculties and becoming a true human Being (Dasein), I am glad my hero's journey has brought you into my life. People like you are 50% of the reason I get up in the morning with a smile and knowing that not all is bad in the world.

@IIIIIIIIIIIllllllIIIIIIIIIII

6 жыл бұрын

Helios Thurisaz Great comment, I feel similar.

@jaketuschak1508

6 жыл бұрын

Helios Thurisaz great comment

@nicolelavigne984

5 жыл бұрын

@@jaketuschak1508 me too so inspired and motivated now really able to keep up the good fight of faith

6:00 WOW. how untruth leads to poverty and trust / honesty leads to prosperity and cooperation

For all my efforts, I don’t want tyranny for the future particularly but will fight to support my local community.

Thank you very much Dr. Peterson! I learned a lot in this lecture.

Some thoughts: Thanks for seeing Heidegger in a realistic light! And he never repented for being a Nazi! What does that tell you? He was a monster and probably knew his way around the labyrinth of words like a carpenter knows how to hammer a nail. And he didn't make things easier to understand, in fact, he made it harder. Unsuspecting students walked into the Black Forest of his thought like Hazel & Gretel. The Ginger Bread House of Being shone out like candy on a grassy knoll of revelation, a clearing of clear thinking. Little did they realize how dizzy they would get from the sugar buzz. Their thoughts swirled around as they became helpless and confused with such incantations as "Existence is the being of those beings that stand open for the openness of being in which they stand, by standing it." Yes, "Being" seems so profound a word to explore. How about the word "Running"? Would Hazel & Gretel be happy if they found an old woman who lived in shoe in the Black Forest? They would be just as far ahead by exploring the profundity of the word "Running."

The "Gang Theory" which is discussed in this lecture forecasts a quite dark future for Europe in the shadow of mass and undisciplined immigration. If we take into account in one hand that the strategy against tyranny in the West is to weakening the society and the other hand that the average human attitude to solve problems fast and easy on brain vs. the difficulties among tyranny/slavery and the art of negotiation (sophisticated philosophy in practice). Well the natural habitat and roles which was formed by centuries will be radically changed both of those who comes to alien culture environment and for those how must face a changing environment. Where will the war take in place? In mind or battlefield? What will be the sacrifice? Ideas or Blood? Thank you professor your insights are unbelievably amazing and sharing them over KZread is priceless!

My father was “soft” on me because he didn’t want me or my sister to know about the horrors of WW2 and then my mother was devouring simply because she was devoured by her childhood. Everybody has tough stuff to deal with.

@JeffMTX

4 ай бұрын

In a way, they gave us stuff to work with. They weren’t all bad, I’m sure, but we’re all products of our backgrounds. Knowledge of those things can produce power in the descendants, no?

@davidfarrall

4 ай бұрын

Yes, we’re all a bit damaged. Maybe we can work with that and try to make the future better for all concerned. “Out of something bad (or difficult) can come something good”.

@JeffMTX

4 ай бұрын

@@davidfarrall yes sir, almost always.

I’m finding that to achieve good things in our competence hierarchy in practice, as Dr Peterson says, we must discipline our minds and focus on our local reality. We don’t know or understand what is beyond our horizons. Our reputation attracts “attacks” or tests. We should keep our local ontology or Being as stable as possible. But the Hero gets great serotonin boosts to support him.

One of the simulations that Jordan Peterson refers to at around 45:00, for anyone interested - ncase.me/trust/ (The Evolution of Trust).

Well, I guess I now know what Im going to do if Im ever thrown into a gulag.

Almost every lecture is a gem, what I don't understand is the problem of cultural relativism and how it is playing out right now in Canada; do you think that the motion M103 is a grave mistake by the so called post-modernist Trudeau Administration?

@nicolelavigne984

5 жыл бұрын

Wow you are the only person mentioning m103! Amazing so this secret societal bill was passed under Cover,. Sad, sad,

21:00 How the Great Mother/Chaos responds to the slaying of the Great Father/Order

God damn, I want a Coke Zero.

The Great Father viewed from the Left vs Right of the Political Spectrum [41:00]

How do you respond to those people out there who have completely removed themselves from the dominance hierarchy well into their adult life because of a tyrannical father who beat them or psychologically tormented them or some such circumstance? You know, those types of people who you meet who kind of just subsist miserably on the fringes of society but dont actually have any real "life" in them from the deep seated traumas and years of wallowing in self pity or self hatred or whatever it is that goes on in that particular persons psyche?

@jenbrennan4884

5 жыл бұрын

I did trauma treatment for childhood abuse called EMDR. It was very helpful for me to face and effectively deal with traumatic memories. I am trauma-free and functioning adult after decades of depression and suicidal tendencies.

thanks

'He never caused any trouble.' That is a myth, the signs often show up in one way or another. For the most part Dr Peterson is correct, of course because the man is highly educated, but he often succumbs to sound bites and popular historical memes to explain or make connections between concepts.

@Tain_edReaper

4 жыл бұрын

I think he uses those examples because his audience knows them. Otherwise his ideas are too abstract to imagine and wrap around properly unless you have real personal experience.

How about this, Jordan ! An answer to the question at 42:00 could be that the government capacity for evil in general mirrors the capacity to ignore reality in the people + level of political class struggle incitement (of the Marxist variety ) mobilization of the lower class through constantly squeezing the productive class etc. -or -(less common in the modern west) military dictatorship growing out of mass destruction by an outside power. I also think that the situation in the US is more like the conservatives ignoring the "toxic father" and, especially, the left ignoring and encouraging the oedipal mother relationship between the welfare state and the poor.

@zvuk

5 жыл бұрын

"government capacity for evil in general mirrors the capacity to ignore reality in the people" this is interesting thought.

I want to know how you’ve discussed religion after studying alchemy and coming to the realization of the understandings.

I lo ve this man

So the Hero doesn’t eat his Father, He ploughs the gold back into society if the people will let him.

Corruption is not defeated by society as a whole. A subculture develops in a small region that has the prefect ratio of shark and guppie. Then the larger society either emulates that or destroys it.

How do you respond to Big History brand nihilism, for example, "in trillions of years the universe will experience heat death and therefore nothing matters." I sense this sentiment in a lot of high school and college aged people I know. It troubles me if I dwell on it. The best answer I can think of is that who the hell knows what will happen in the next trillion years that might change the circumstances and proceed as if the problem has already been solved.

@andrewyang2320

6 жыл бұрын

I don't get that. It seems to be merely an extension of the argument that you're going to die, therefore nothing matters. Let's assume the circumstances won't change and we haven't made any error. The universe will collapse. What do we make of it? Well, instead of drawing the conclusion that nothing really matters, we could instead change our point of view and realize that it's far better to continue to work for our own growth and the well-being of others than to lazily wallow in our misery or become destructive. That life is meaningless is by no means an obvious conclusion and seems to be predicated on our own pathology rather than the state of the universe. That one does not suggest any such argumentation at all imo. It seems to have nothing to do with the meaning of our lives in the first place.

@andrewyang2320

6 жыл бұрын

How about the opposite of that - our universe will always exist. People will always exist. That can also mean that life is meaningless. Your life will be a tiny speck in an infinite timeline - as meaningful as the existence of some random bacterium is to you now. Nihilism is powerful, because (if you want to) you can find reasons for it everywhere. Doesn't mean they're there, but we can infer and project and feel a little better about our mistakes.

@davidhawley1132

6 жыл бұрын

The problem is that 'bigness' (duration in this case) is being used as a substitute for 'meaningful'. And eternal is being substituted for 'divine'. Both of these are dodgy.

I blame DareDorm for college unhappiness. That's what I expected in college as a child.

54:50 No legal system = No looting

3:34

50:00 mark. How prophetic, BLM and their riots fit perfectly into this principle.

@christopherarmstrong2710

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the time stamp.

corrupt people are often well-off.

This man should quit zero coke and only eat meat.

@tumeef7307

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

We still don't have the serpent stroy right. In the kjv the serpent tells the truth. The warning from God "In the "day" thereof you will surely die." Serpent to Eve you won't. If one would define "day" in context of Genesis they did not die makes the serpent correct.

27:17

Dr Peterson, If you’re reading these comments? I’d like to ask for your advice. (Which I normally don’t from anyone). It’s in regards to your “Save you Father” theory. I grew up without a mother. She passed away from an overdose back in 2006. I haven’t seen my Father in almost 9 years. He has yet to see his granddaughters. He is wandering the streets, living off of disability. A drunk/alcoholic. He wasted away his life, and could never hold a job. The more I listen to you, the more I’m motivated to find him, and talk to him. But I’m concerned about a variety of things that might occur after I encounter him. Do I actually want a man like my father in my daughters lives? Do I want him in my life? I want to save my father. But I’m afraid he’s far too weak of a man, and wouldn’t be a proper influence on my life. I was always told to surround myself with strong individuals. But sadly, my father is the direct opposite of that. Thank You for everything you’ve done for humanity. We as a civilization need you around. Not as a leader, but as a promoter of morality and intellectual thinking.

@Angela-iq7cm

5 жыл бұрын

Offend in every way. ...How is your dad ? I feel so for you. Maybe I could help

@rajanchaudhary9167

3 жыл бұрын

@@Angela-iq7cm I hope Dad is fine,May Fiat find Dad very soon.

@rajanchaudhary9167

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, hope you get your answer and importantly, hope Dad is fine.

This will probably bore. But I had a great father. I remember when he would punish me when I was little. He would send me to my room, sometimes after an ass whooping or spanking. Then he would call me out with an angry commanding voice and make me stand right in front of him. He would say "Stand right here right here in front of me.Then he would stare at me with a hard face! Then his face would soften and he would put out his hand and ask me, are we still friends?" And it was not an act. He meant to punish me for my own good. But he did not want to lose my love, and he also wanted to show me I had not, and could not lose his love even though he was very angry with me. Oh and my heart was always crushed by his love and made me realize he was doing it for my own good, he did not enjoy punishing me.

@heliosthurisaz9017

7 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that Terry. However, there is no such thing as spanking the child for its own good. Please do not carry this curse onto your own children, I beg you. Control your emotions through making them play out as fantasies. .Buy a sack, hang it and punch it while screaming if you will. You can scare kids WITHOUT hitting them (trust me, I know. I lived with my mother alone growing up). A stern look is all it takes, if they have seen you get angry and act out (not against them). A weaker animal knows to how to respect a stronger one.

@JeffWithAnF

7 жыл бұрын

Yixal Freeman I think having a sack just to hit when they misbehave would be more damaging than just a spank or two.

A ruthlessly honest tyrant might be alright and benevolent but would be a rare animal given all the conflicting worldly pressures. My parents were very Oedipal and I’ve struggled to turn this around. Yes, we don’t want power mongers but aren’t most men somewhat tyrannical? Somebody said that we should only strive to maintain our personal status and competence hierarchy because you are the only person who can do this. But it’s Oedipal in a way. Yet we’ve had many in History. Martin Luther King, David Beckham in football, Muhammad Ali, etc.

30:00 Agreeableness?

@juliannagajraj8292

3 жыл бұрын

How? Increase its competence and power - not oppressiveness ..

He has clearly had a soda problem

I absolutely love your lectures - but I must admit. I cannot watch all of your videos, this one included, - as there is literally an ad every single five or six minutes. It's unbelievable frankly. I really wish there were not so many ads. At least not every single five minute period. It's too bad honestly.

He looks little bit chubby and even older than now

The Great Schism was in 1024, but arguably started much earlier, with all the Latin plastographies like Donatio Constantini. And it was not the Eastern Orthodox Church that split from the Western Church, but the other way around. Just because you have 6 of the 7 Patriarchates that remained in the Byzantine Church, and only the one Roman Patriarchate or Archdiocese that separated by itself. The Latins excommunicated the Patriarch of Constantinopole, Michael Kerularios and were excommunicated in their turn. But, if you want to be politically correct, they both parted ways. Protestants obviously did not exist before the latter half of the 16th century.

No, poverty doesn't cause corruption, thus poor countries are more corrupt. . However, the corruption if the rich at the top manifests first at the bottom where they lack the sophistication and means to conceal it.

1:11 = 2020 in a nutshell

10:54 This is where modern day feminists get their doctrine.

I don’t want to be a fascist. Have I set a good example? I don’t know.

5:27 - "but corrupt people are poor". I don't understand your point of view on this one. People were poor before being corrupted. After they got corrupted, not poor anymore, financially speaking. I think that a poor country is a fertile ground for corruption because of a few factors: - underdeveloped population / uneducated, hence easy to manipulate and rob, hence my next point - weak institutions, hence - weak systems (political system, educational system, healthcare, agriculture, transport etc) It's a loop, it feeds on itself Having weak institution and a bad filter for getting competent people working there has an effect of tolerating corruption and increasing it with time and a lot more ... Living enough in a corrupt system you tend to get corrupted cause as the time goes by you tend to adapt in order to survive in that sick system/place etc, in the first place and then slowly it tends to become the norm. You lack proper models and healthy relationships. It's like living in a dysfunctional family.

I hope Peterson does not claim Mossadegh was thrown over to get rid of a tyrant by the US.

OSX superior race

Black lives matter In a nutshell.

Picasso sucks. Stop sculpting your own hands and beating your mistress.

Why are you drinking coke? :)

So the common people suffer for the corruption of politicians. Again, what kind of god does this? Hmmm

@bishop1444

6 жыл бұрын

Victor Bingo do courrupt politicians do the physical work ? Look at someone like Gordon Ramsay he's hyper competent, every peice of his work has to be honest because if it's not people won't eat it. Now look at a builder, he has to build a house and his integrity is shown in the building physically, you can tell if he's lazy, where he slacked if he lies on an inch etc. That's an expression of courruption

@bishop1444

6 жыл бұрын

Victor Bingo there's an idea that the solution on how to save humanity is to fix humanity of every one. AT the level of the individual, have a good one :) hope I helped your question

thanks