I'd take the YJ over the Rubicon any day. It's hard to treat a Jeep like a toy when it costs 30-40 grand

@CamaroAmx

5 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Roberson get a TJ, still has the old feel but with more modern features (coil overs, lockers if you get the rubicon, airbags) and it’ll be a lot cheaper. Plus the engine will outlast the body.

@fishhuntadventure

5 жыл бұрын

I sorta like the advantages of leaf springs. I don’t like kookaid I mean koolaid either.

@CamaroAmx

5 жыл бұрын

fishhuntadventure the YJs, MBs, and CJs had leaf springs. 97 and up (TJ, LJ, JK, and current JL) all have coil springs.

@street_legal_go_kart7356

4 жыл бұрын

No its not

@NH2112

4 жыл бұрын

CamaroAmx I prefer leaf springs, no sway bars or track bars to fight suspension movement, no 8 control arm bushings to get loose & sloppy, the big problem with leaf spring Jeeps is the front shackles are at the wrong end but an SRS takes care of that. And unless you’re as sensitive as the Princess in the Princess and the Pea, coils are no better on the road. Neither is IFS.

I drive a 91 yj and absolutely love it. Working on it is so much easier than newer cars because of the simplicity of the engine. I’ve spent a lot of time doing stuff to it cosmetically and internally. And such a fun piece of machinery that has taught me a lot about auto mechanics. Wouldn’t trade it for a jk or even a jl

Give me $50 grand to buy a Rubicon and I'd just buy the '95 and pocket the other $45 grand.

@QuietSlum

8 жыл бұрын

I'd buy 10 1990 model king can z71s and pocmet the 40k

@TheGtracer1994

7 жыл бұрын

Buy the 95, do axle swaps, lockers, tires, etc. and you'd still have at least $18k left over. And all of that will out wheel the Rubi.

@sylthaya7571

6 жыл бұрын

Mellissa Conway heyyy we have the same car lmao, 93 life

@sylthaya7571

6 жыл бұрын

Mellissa Conway I was actually considering getting a new rubicon in a few years and just having the yj for the future, but decided “hey if I build this up I’ll be better in every way than a new rubicon”

@sylthaya7571

6 жыл бұрын

Mellissa Conway it runs, it just struggles to turn over and takes a few tries

There's one thing that the YJ has over new Jeeps. They can be painted into Jurassic Park Jeeps. 😏

@presidenteldermarkhoffman8304

7 жыл бұрын

you can do that with new one easily got $50k i can get new jeep painted

@nawmean

7 жыл бұрын

Fuck Yeah DUDE!

@weskarcher483

7 жыл бұрын

I have an awesome white 1995 Rio Grande Edition Jeep YJ with tube bumpers all around. These will be collector items just like the CJ Levi Edition and Golden Eagles. 😉

@stevwolfbustamante7169

7 жыл бұрын

Wes Karcher yeap I own a JP yj

@owenlawrence670

7 жыл бұрын

PRESIDENTELDER MARKHOFFMAN Well sure you can get it painted but it wont look original because in the movie they used 1992 jeep YJ wrangler saharas.

If you put how much extra a new Rubicon cost into that 90s YJ you would have something incredible that the rubicon could never touch off road. I do like the new jeeps but it seems like they have lost their souls as dedicated off road vehicles. I would rather fix up and modify an old jeep than have a new one. Wranglers are supposed to be rough around the edges, simplistic and durable. Keep all the unneeded luxury junk in the Grand Cherokee for soccer moms.

@HatedJared

9 жыл бұрын

You could always buy a bone standard JK sport and build in anything you wanted. That's what I did. Make it as simple or complicated as you wanted.

@joshe7813

9 жыл бұрын

chefdan87 Stupid argument. its like saying because I can buy a 1990's Civic for 2 grand and put 30 grand into it to beat a modern Vette the Civic is better. Simple fact is the JK is a better off-roader. Stock for stock its got better approach, departure and the 4 door gives up about 1 degree on breakover (2 door has better breakover), better clearance, longer control arms so more flex, requires less lift to fit a bigger tire, lockers, beefier axles, it will go through stuff with ease the YJ will struggle on... The JK is a better platform starting and mod for mod. And before you rip on me, I have a built TJ with nothing left stock, last g/f had a built YJ. Current g/f has a JK lifted 3 inches on 35's. The JK would wipe the floor with the others stock for stock, and even lightly modded its running with mine on all but the hardest of trails.

@chefdan87

9 жыл бұрын

Josh E I really pity you and the fact you are too dumb to understand my post. In time when you grow up you might be able to comprehend what i was trying to say. Give it time, it will come.

@ianmagnuson7761

9 жыл бұрын

Josh E no, what they are saying is that if you had the money, say 40 grand to get an awesome jeep, you could either buy a new top of the line JK or a 20 year old jeep, then, assuming you spent at the most 6 grand on the yj, you still have 34 grand to dump into the old jeep. which is why you will see older models beefed up more often than JKs.

@luisvillanueva5264

9 жыл бұрын

chefdan87 you're totally right, the adrenaline when you can't pass through the mud for example, and now you don't suffer/enjoy because the new rubicon do all the work, in old jeep you need skill to made it, i'd never change my CJ-7.

My 1991 YJ has never let me down over the 21-years I've owned it & with 350k miles, it is still going strong. I'll keep it without a moment's thought.

So a 20-year-old beater you got for $5,000 isn't nearly as good on mild trails as a brand-new $40,000 off-road equipped Rubicon? You've really discovered the wheel here.

@OhYeaMista

8 жыл бұрын

$50,000. Lol

@anthonybouchard6928

8 жыл бұрын

+Adam Payne Apple's to oranges comparison. The YJ Sahara would have been expensive back in the day when it came out. The idea is to show where Jeep tech has gone from then until now, not to just say, "yup, expensive new Jeep wins the shit out of a cheap beater."

@fixins

8 жыл бұрын

+Anthony Bouchard It sure was a goofy way of showing it. If the idea was to show a progression of technology then they shouldn't have presented this as a head-to-head contest about which is "better," offroad. Yes, the YJ did woefully under perform against a new Rubicon but as you said this was an apples to oranges demonstration. Throw another five thousand bucks at the YJ to give it a spring lift, lockers, gears, a better rear axle and bigger tires (all of which the Rubicon has from the factory) and I doubt you'd see the Rubi just walk the the old, crappy, unloved, square-headlight Wrangler from the 90s. None of those modifications are new technology. 4 doors, coil spring suspension and a not great V6 from Chrysler are the only new tech on the Rubicon.

@anthonybouchard6928

8 жыл бұрын

That was clearly just the guy in the video being cocky as a part of his production sense of humor. I think you're taking that too seriously. Modifying the YJ with aftermarket parts would be Apples to Oranges against a modern from-the-factory configuration of the JK. And it already was kind of modified. Actually what I think this video symbolizes is that you get a whole lot more bang for your buck these days in a new vehicle than you did in the 80's. It just demonstrates that off road machines have come a long way in capability and engineering. To me, it sounds like you just want the YJ configured exactly like the JK so that they'll perform the same. But that takes the fun out of the video because then you don't get to see the differences in modern vs. old tech. Technically, the guy could have converted the YJ to JK Rubicon axles with coils and put the HD D44s in it, and the 3.6L in it too. Then it would have been a JK in a YJ frame with a YJ body, but what fun would that be? That just shows that there's aftermarket support and doesn't really show how capable the Jeep was off the factory line.

@fixins

8 жыл бұрын

+Anthony Bouchard My original comment was just a snarky jab at the video. Made in fun. A two-line, sarcastic comment was all it was ever supposed to be.

I actually recently got an old '95 YJ, I have to agree with you that it looks so much cooler, Joel. It also handles pretty well off-road, in just Rear wheel drive

Its funny because that YJ and its straight6 will still be road going long after that v6 dies.

@MaynardFreek

4 жыл бұрын

The 3.6L is a proven engine and are very reliable. I'd take it over the 4.0L any day

@street_legal_go_kart7356

4 жыл бұрын

Ls swap . 3.6smokes I6 .

@jeepjoseph9036

4 жыл бұрын

@@street_legal_go_kart7356 why would anyone ls swap a jk?

@nicolasprice9860

4 жыл бұрын

Jeep Joseph why not😂

@jeepjoseph9036

4 жыл бұрын

@@nicolasprice9860 first off weight. Also it wouldn't be as goid offroad

I'll always take a yj over any other jeep. But thats my opinion and I own a tj haha

@4-WHEEL-DRIVE

5 жыл бұрын

i love the jeep cj7's but i own a 1990 jeep yj and a 1970 fj40 land cruiser

@TrueMainiac

5 жыл бұрын

I had a 92 YJ, but I love my 06 LJ Rubicon. 2 door, 4.0 and manual. Be happy to ride with that 2015 with my old tech.

The less we rely on technology,the higher the skill of the driver becomes

@HDA_III

3 жыл бұрын

So

@varun009

3 жыл бұрын

But where do you draw the line? Is the job of a driver not necessarily technologically augmented? Why not just walk? All to better test the drivers skills, right?

Wow, the lockers take all the fun out of it :) I had a 1982 CJ-5 Laredo for 13 years. Had it all over the Colorado Rockies. Never came close to tipping it.

How can you really compare a YJ that costs 1/10 of that JKU? Put 10k into that YJ and it could about crawl over the Rubi and your still $35,000 cheaper.

@KnightShadey

9 жыл бұрын

Larry Koziol How can you compare that !?! Invest that initial cost of the YJ in 1990 and you could have two JKU Rubicons and still have money left over for a Seadoo or ATV.

@xn7331

9 жыл бұрын

KnightShadey how could you compare that? if you invest all that money in Roth IRAs and stocks and stuff in 1990 you could have around 1mil by now. lol

@KnightShadey

9 жыл бұрын

Clay Martin that was the point, although, I wasn't using retirement and investment maximizing strategies, just market indexes as my rebuttal example. Showing even without a need to understand investing strategy or anything other than pop funds into a major index, simply using the DJIA or S&P you'd have just over a 6 fold increase in that period from either, which gives you over $110,000 (~$114K) or, as I said, enough for two JKURs and still have money left over for a Seadoo or ATV. Of course if you just invested all that MSRP into Apple in 1990, you'd have about $2.2 million in current share value, let alone the dividend which in the last few years would've netted essentially a free Sahara to JKUR per year in dividend income alone. Now get to work on that time Machine Boyz !! =B~)

@xn7331

9 жыл бұрын

KnightShadey I was also joking. :P I was just going to a more extreme example for comedic effect.

@superlegomastersmasters5006

9 жыл бұрын

My jk has Dana 60s and a 14bolt in the rear with 43" stickies and a 6 inch long arm wanna wheel buddy??

The only thing they don't compare is price. I would rather have the older jeep with a couple of mods and have no payments.

That 95' jeep wrangler look so iconic.

I drive a yj and it does everything I need

my accord could do this.

@RAJohnson713

9 жыл бұрын

It's too easy

@ChairmanKimchi

9 жыл бұрын

Bitch please...my corolla did it. Lol :D

@Undecided_

9 жыл бұрын

thoravian accord? Get my friggin twizy

@JerryKosloski

8 жыл бұрын

my miata could do this

@n0-one0

8 жыл бұрын

+thoravian They literally did nothing with the Accord. They didn't prove a thing with that move.

CAN'T COMPARE PRICE TO EACH OTHER!! MUCH RATHER HAVE THE YJ AND JUST ADD LOCKERS....LOL THE YJ IS SUPERIOR IN EVERY CATEGORY

@curlyrooster118

5 жыл бұрын

Lockers make you invincible

a 4 door jeep?, for real, I'm sorry but a 4 door jeep is not the same as a 2 door, the 4 door is for when you dont have Freedom anymore

@stevenroman5546

7 жыл бұрын

TheJavw what do you mean? lol

@edhoonigan434

7 жыл бұрын

steven roman children he means its for when you settle down and have children.

@DRugfree1987

7 жыл бұрын

I love my 4 door jeep. I can actually sleep in the back of it. plus more room for friends and camping gear.

@michaelkuzmadutton7879

7 жыл бұрын

TheJavw agreed.

@JohnSmith-ii8pp

6 жыл бұрын

Just that little bit of extra length really screws you over rock crawling.

2 automatic Jeeps, one 4-door...shakes head

@MultiPurposeReviewer

8 жыл бұрын

+Tim Beck I know the YJ had a 3-speed automatic. Did the JK not have a manual?

@wymanlovestkd

7 жыл бұрын

Tim Beck I'm sad the YJ wasn't a Manuel

@dylanverkler4552

7 жыл бұрын

Just take it people new cars are going to have autos I don't know why you are surprised

@gordongreninger6109

7 жыл бұрын

Tim Beck ....and that would improve this how?

@kennethcurtis1856

5 жыл бұрын

Don't lose those rocks shsking your head. They are the only thing you have for brains.

I just love the 4.0 inline sound, I always recognize an old jeep just by hearing that sound, I don´t have to look at it. Miss the 4.0 u_u

am I the only one who misses the old jeeps?? taking them off road felt like taking a jeep off road the new ones feel like SUVs... :(

@bubblessamsquanch6478

9 жыл бұрын

and by SUV I mean like a soccer mom mobile

@trevorlowder3237

9 жыл бұрын

+Bubbles Samsquanch I don't miss mine because it's sitting in my driveway :) - Wait, no...Yes, I do miss it! Time to go wheeling! New "Jeeps" are CARS. Old Jeeps are machines.

@ryanvaughan7992

8 жыл бұрын

+Bubbles Samsquanch yeah im only 15 I really really want one. when I was 12 I got to drive me 1988 jeep yj and I fell in love. its slow and in bad condition but I don't care its a cool jeep

@Shane101A

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah I daily drive a 99 Cherokee and I love the compactness of it. the new ones are just big suvs

@freddybrown123

8 жыл бұрын

the new on s aren't as durable or well made. my friend has a rock crusher and the engine blew the first week, and the rear axle broke off roading in a field... I have never had that issue with my 94 Sahara.

I had a '94, bought it new and drove it for around 10 years. I'd love to have another one-not a new Jeep but a older one just for a weekend toy. It is so hard to find older Jeeps in fairly good condition-they are either all rusted out or beat to Hell and back. Or if they are in good condition the owner wants a fortune for it. Oh and for the record, i never got stuck and i never came close to flipping it.

99% of off roading is the driver

@anthonyrivera4034

8 жыл бұрын

And 1% tires

@MrSirFluffy

8 жыл бұрын

+Ventures With Joe If you think so see how far you get in a smart car lol

@dynasty2295

8 жыл бұрын

+Ventures With Joe Totally agree, I'm a poor recent college grad who has just recently started making money. I own an 08 Jeep Patriot with Geolander ATS's and I've gone where stock wranglers can't. The tires help but knowing your vehicle is more important.

@brad11344

8 жыл бұрын

+Dynasty 22 anyone who drives a patriot sucks dick for a living

@dynasty2295

8 жыл бұрын

brad11344 Thanks for that, you really contributed to the conversation there. I was gonna write back an extensive reply but when I clicked on your profile I realized you aren't a gear head, and the most offroading you've done is in a sandbox. Who uploads a video of a crap Ford f-150 driving in flat sand, and a grocery getter Subaru with the title Subaru Flexing? Really? Don't insult someone on a vehicle you haven't seen about a topic you know nothing about. I'll ask your opinion on what to do if I ever get feelings about my sister.

I keep on telling myself that the new jeep is to civilized. Anyone thinking that?

@WiffleWhomper

9 жыл бұрын

They're far too family oriented and "shiny"... They need to make something worthy of leaving the pavement again.

@mechmat12345

9 жыл бұрын

David Young You can buy a Wrangler with as little or as many modern amenities as you want. I sure as heck wouldn't call a Jeep with no A/C and half doors "too civilized."

@txgamer1347

9 жыл бұрын

***** I have a 2013 JK as well. Same as yours except auto transmission.

A rubicon vs a YJ with open diffs? What the hell kinda test is this? Go park that four door at the mall.

@Lianpe98

3 жыл бұрын

It's not a rubicon, it's a sahara and wranglers didn't came with locking diffs until the last years of the TJ

They should go back to straight 6 Best motor ever. Strong , reliable

@anthonybouchard6928

8 жыл бұрын

+Nicole H I do miss my I6. Traded my Jeep Cherokee in though for a 2012 JK with the 3.6L. So far so good.

@bobquattrini1787

6 жыл бұрын

My 99 Xj has almost 325,000 miles and still runs and looks like new

@marcuswernicke9018

5 жыл бұрын

The 4.2 litre though, not the 4.0. That’s the real mans straight six.

@street_legal_go_kart7356

4 жыл бұрын

As slow as a 4.0 was could you imagine how slow it would be in a four-door

@duane4972

4 жыл бұрын

@@street_legal_go_kart7356 stick with your go karts, the 4L was one of the best engines ever made, low speed torque is what you want for 4 wheeling. My last one lasted 400,000 miles

How is it possible that they can make off roading boring?

@ninjalectualx

7 жыл бұрын

christopher fischer well they didn't actually go offroading really

@evazkee7246

5 жыл бұрын

They overly suceeded

@boomsaucexx1866

3 жыл бұрын

Here, let me show this video to you.

Great video, looked like lots of fun. I like JKs, they are really nice Jeeps. But I have to admit, I am partial to the CJ & YJ era. Fact is, put a set of lockers in the YJ and real set of tires. The YJ would go any place the Rubi would go .. and more, for less than half the cost. Great video guys and thanks for sharing. Have a great day!!

I would like to emphasize something mentioned in the review. When Jeep switched from leaf springs to coil springs, they vastly improved the ride. Traveling down a bumpy road on leaf springs may jar some teeth loose. Some will argue that the leaf springs are stronger for jumping things.

I was really in to watching this but Nathan being snooty really killed it for me.

Looks to me like one of them had a lot more fun and the other sat around like he was on the couch.

The 95 just needs tires

@NH2112

4 жыл бұрын

Jonathan they’re fine for where they were, he just needs to air them down from the 50psi or so he seems to have them at.

@rayjohn9798

2 жыл бұрын

I bought wrangler in 1995. The only issue is people steal parts off it. Lost a battery and 2 door windows Mechanical issues are no issue. The heater was not working. But it was still on warranty so the dealer had to fix it. The things I have done is buy new batteries and one set of tires and new canvas. change the oil flush the radiator and get the transfer cases serviced. After 25 years I am satisfied It might go another 25 years

I know that times have changed but I don't believe that the Penastar V6 will as reliable as that 4.0L inline 6. I mean I have 94 XJ with over 400,000 miles.

Many years ago, I had friends that liked to off-road. The trails they are using in this vid are much like the paths we took to get to the places they would go off-roading. I don't see how these trails are a challenge to anything but 2x4 passenger vehicles.

My 5 speed manual 95 yj with a 4 inch lift and 33 inch tires, and modified 4 low gearing ratios would destroy that yj. Although I would loose to the the new Jeep, I am certain I would have more fun driving my true off-road automobile than that poor over built soccer mom SUV. Jeep has been dead in its original essence for a while now.

Why did you use a new wrangler unlimited instead of a 2 door?

@TFLcar

9 жыл бұрын

Because the Unlimited is our MotorMountain USA vehicle. We needed more room for our crew and stuff to go to all 50 highest mountain tops.

@guyproulx1660

9 жыл бұрын

The Fast Lane Car so that means that you guy's are willing to compare apples to oranges lol

@williamkistler6302

9 жыл бұрын

Jacob shreve yeah they should have compared a 2 door base with a yj

@brkr7799

9 жыл бұрын

Jacob shreve Why did they use a Rubicon to compare to a non-locker Jeep? There are a lot of things wrong here...

@macsogandares8383

9 жыл бұрын

Igor K Well its what got jeep its reputation, if I were to buy one it would be a 2 door

Throw some decent tires on the old YJ and it will make a world of difference. You could see how terribly they self-cleaned and like they said, not good off-road tires. New technology makes what used to require thought and skill nearly mindless. That's why we are heading towards autonomous cars. Mankind has spent centuries finding ways to not do work. There are those enthusiasts that still want to shift gears, modulate the throttle, and otherwise truly drive. Some might argue modern Jeeps have lost their purity and such a judgement is tricky. To a great extent, their capability comes from superior equipment, like locking diffs and quick-disconnect sway bars. These increase traction and suspension performance. Other technologies like hill descent control and terrain management (like in JGC), augment the driver. The old Jeeps can be made quite capable with the right equipment and a good driver such that a new one wouldn't leave it behind.

@GT6SuzukaTimeTrials

9 жыл бұрын

Aaron Fink People are creatures of convenience except for the hardcore enthusiasts of whatever activity there is that can be made to be autonomous.

@aaronbehindbars

9 жыл бұрын

GT6SuzukaTimeTrials Hence why people buy boring cars (I'm looking at you, Camry) because they are a safe bet. There is no sense of adventure or enthusiasm. As you said, not the enthusiast type.

@Triple88a

9 жыл бұрын

Aaron Fink Nah the main thing for that YJ would be lockers. If it didnt have open diffs it would have been better than the rubi.

@dj_b5337

9 жыл бұрын

Aaron Fink I love my old 5 Speed YJ.

@brkr7799

9 жыл бұрын

Atanas Tripzter Agreed, Tires and lockers. Around $2,000 in upgrades and the red jeep could not go anywhere the YJ could not.

The 4 door wranglers look so stupid. Those should not be called a wrangler. Also, those "big" tires on the older jeep are shit compared to the tires on the new one. If you want to make it more even, at least get the same type of tire on both. That is the only way.

@nermket4849

7 жыл бұрын

I think all the doors look stupid. You're not living life unless the doors are off and you're dodging German lead.

@michaelkuzmadutton7879

7 жыл бұрын

M M they both look stupid.

@jakobbutterfield4081

7 жыл бұрын

also to make it more even the both of them should have lockers

@gordongreninger6109

7 жыл бұрын

Nermket and a yj fits that how?

The old looks like s man's Jeep. The new looks like a soccer mom's SUV.

@aldobega2649

5 жыл бұрын

Sooo true! lol

@leomonster1973

5 жыл бұрын

I was just thinking something along those lines...Id like to have that '95 for myself and buy the new one for the wife and kids

@NH2112

4 жыл бұрын

The 4-doors shouldn’t even be branded as Jeeps, they should be Chryslers with some suitably minivan-ish name. Suburbia, perhaps.

@delicheese6774

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's why people feel the need to put angry eyes on it, try to regain some of that lost character.

I'll take a YJ all day. 1994-95, add lockers and sway bar disconnects. save $35k.. works for me

What Nathan said about his father not letting him buy a Jeep hit home with me. I was looking at Jeeps in the early 90's but my father (an auto mechanic) would not let me buy one for the roll over problem. He knew guys killed in CJ roll overs. Many years later I was grown, left home, married and my father was long passed away and shopping for a mini van when I stopped myself and said hey, look at Jeeps again! That is when I bought my new TJ. Unless it gets totaled or rusts away, I plan to keep it forever. I know the JKs are higher tech but there is just something missing from the new Jeeps. Maybe the simplicity in form and function of earlier Jeeps is the element that is lost.

I like how he says he gets stuck multiple times but he’s not actually stuck 😂

Come on guys my drive way is more 4x4 worthy than that trail lol

@zebulonstults5078

8 жыл бұрын

+okami89 the old guy don't really seem likes he knows how to drive that 95. He hits everything straight on and fast no manuvering , same for the other guy

@tobinpokrzywa8158

8 жыл бұрын

The potholes around here seem like the "mudholes" they went through here :P

@nickmotsarsky4382

7 жыл бұрын

Perhaps you should pave your driveway then.

@lindamoore192

5 жыл бұрын

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Is this even off roading...... A prius could do that

@johnnybahama497

6 жыл бұрын

My thoughts as well, I could do this stuff in my Toyota Matrix

@ladyj4068

6 жыл бұрын

I literally just did this in my lil Chevy impala 😂😂

@CanisMythson

5 жыл бұрын

I could do it in my Playskool pedal car.

@JeepTJWheelin

3 жыл бұрын

Sure it can 😒

"Fuel injection really helps while carburetors starve for air" Huh, what?

@bigtb1717

9 жыл бұрын

He said at high altitude they really starve for air, and fuel injection helps, which is generally accurate. At high altitude the air is less dense. Go to higher altitude and suddenly your carbureted engine isn't getting enough air, the fuel mixture is wrong, and it is running terrible. Fuel injection systems are much better at adapting the fuel mixture to keep is correct, so while you may be down a bit on power at high altitude, the fuel/air mixture ratio is still correct, so it still runs well.

@Triple88a

9 жыл бұрын

***** Explain how fuel injection helps force more air in the cylinders please.

@bigtb1717

9 жыл бұрын

Atanas Tripzter Fuel injection doesn't force more air in. But you took what he said slightly out of context. He said at higher altitudes, his carbureted engine starved for air, it was very evident in his carbureted bike. At higher altitude the air is less dense, and there is much less oxygen. A carbureted engine is drawing in the same volume of "air", but the air is less dense, there is less oxygen, so the engine runs rich (because the air/fuel ratio is off), the fuel doesn't combust fully, and it generally runs poor. A fuel injection system detects this condition and adjusts the amount of fuel delivery to match the amount of oxygen. You will have reduced maximum power (less oxygen, and less fuel to go along with it), but the engine continues to run smooth and stable, vs. a carbureted engine "starving for air", or said another way, running too rich. The fuel injection system isn't adding air, it's matching the fuel to the amount of air/oxygen. Hope that clears it up. Sorry I wasn't clear what I meant in my previous post.

@Triple88a

9 жыл бұрын

***** This would be true if the fuel depended only on the Throttle Position. Thats not the case though.

@bigtb1717

9 жыл бұрын

Atanas Tripzter Of course. A fuel injection system uses either a mass air flow sensor (or a map sensor, coupled with throttle position sensor, barometric pressure sensor, etc.) to very closely guess the actual mass of air entering the engine. It then adds fuel to the system in an attempt to reach an effective air/fuel ratio. The particular air fuel ratio targeted will depend on engine temp, ambient air temp (etc., etc.). At higher altitudes, even if the volume of the air entering the engine is the same (and it will be very close to the same since engine displacement doesn't change), the MASS of the air does change (since it is less dense), and less air mass requires less fuel to reach a given fuel mix. A fuel injected system reacts to these changes to keep the ratio correct. It also monitors O2 sensors to make changes as needed. So a fuel injected system will generally run much better at varying altitudes vs. a carbureted engine. A carburetor's fuel delivery is much more tied to throttle position compared to a fuel injected system. A carburetor has multiple jets at various points (high-speed, low-speed and often mid-range jets, along with an acceleration jet). Engine vacuum draws fuel from the jets, and air flowing through the throttle body creates a venturi effect, which also draws fuel from the jets. Which jet fuel is drawn from depends very heavily on throttle plate position. If a carburetor is tuned for low altitudes (jet or port size, float bowl level, etc.) it will end up supplying too much fuel at higher altitudes because the volume of air entering the engine is largely unchanged, so the fuel deliver is also largely unchanged. But since that air is much less dense and contains much less oxygen, a carbureted engine will said to be "starving for air" at higher altitudes if it isn't tuned for them. Really, it's just running rich because the air is less dense, and the ratio is off. A fuel injected engine adjusts to these changes, so it runs much better at varying altitudes. In the video he was simply saying that while the YJ was older technology than the newest Wrangler, it was still fuel injected, so it wasn't struggling at high altitudes like his carbureted bike had, since it was "starving for air".

Love all the Jeep videos lately - good times! 👍🏻

The "Italian" Jeep. Fits it perfectly. Jeeps are supposed to be rugged not plush. Light weight not a fat boy.

@JerryKosloski

8 жыл бұрын

damn right

@glennsambrana2919

6 жыл бұрын

I believe the jk is still built in America.

@spencermunson6044

6 жыл бұрын

Glenn Sambrana barley

My jeep won a war, your Honda cuts my grass

@flight2k5

4 жыл бұрын

I mean a jeep is an inanimate object. It didn’t win anything.

@guy_incognito7538

4 жыл бұрын

@@flight2k5 man just shut up

@Thomas54965

4 жыл бұрын

flight2k5 your replying to a 4 year old comment

@flight2k5

4 жыл бұрын

@@Thomas54965 so?

@mkgzt

4 жыл бұрын

the uaz won the war

You can tell these guys don't do a lot of off roading...

I miss my 1998 Cherokee Classic so much.

@user-gv2js6wx7f

2 ай бұрын

I had a 1977 I really liked the low low gear the lever was under the seat

this is totally immature! The new jeep is made of crappy materials that wont even be there in 25 years and the old jeep has street tires and no lockers?!! how is this test even worth watching?Put tires and lockers in the old jeep and that tin can suv of a new jeep will get tore up.:)

@buffalojustice

8 жыл бұрын

+CamilleSimonen The 95 wouldn't have even batted an eye with good tires. No locker needed. Take the price difference between the two and spend it on the 95, put on a kick ass receiver grill, buy steaks and beer for the whole crew, pocket 15 grand and destroy that 2015 off road.

@Tonybeanfarm

8 жыл бұрын

Stamped steel?

@smpallas10

8 жыл бұрын

That's why I have a lifetime bumper to bumper, unlimited mile warranty for stuff like that on my 2014 sport.

@brendandonovan7115

8 жыл бұрын

you are right the new v6 "pentastar" is also found in the chrysler minivan

@sausagewizard6975

8 жыл бұрын

+Brendan Donovan and the 300 and the charger and the challenger and the ram pickups...

Real jeeps have 3 pedals

@andrewhart6001

7 жыл бұрын

Mary Poppins Real Jeeps have 3 pedals, V8, and are called either CJ7 CJ5 it Willy's

@lukasspears7687

6 жыл бұрын

Not nessisaraly I have a cj5 3 speed 4wd but it has a straight 6

@happytimecyanide9884

6 жыл бұрын

Mary Poppins I got a 99 tj sahara for christmas, but it came with an automatic. I'm not even mad, a free jeep is a free jeep.

@leruefox5714

6 жыл бұрын

I have a 1995 YJ, five speed manual. And it goes anywhere a take it

@rickyspanish5326

6 жыл бұрын

Mine is a 06 v6 6 speed.

Smiles per gallon! It's a Jeep thing! I love my old TJ.

I love these old vs. new reviews. Do some more, please

Like others pointed out, it was a silly comparison. I did notice the YJ guy was having more fun and the JK guy was wishing he was in the YJ. I sold my JK and went back to a YJ. I can listen to my YJ and tell you what's going on with the engine. I don't have to ask the mechanic to ask the computer. And seriously...automatic transmissions? Nope. Heated seats? Power windows? Off-roading with the air on? More reasons I gave up the JK.

I honestly love the YJ more than the JK

@dylanverkler4552

6 жыл бұрын

Brandon Cloutier no

@spencermunson6044

6 жыл бұрын

Anybody with a brain does😂

how can you compare a rubicon to a normal yj.....rubicon comes with lockers stock...

I have owned 11 jeeps from cj7's to tj's and a couple of Cherokee models. I love my jeeps. I just bought a 98 tj as a project jeep and could not be happier. I wanted a yj. Unlike most jeep guys I love the square headlights lol

I just got a 95 YJ with the 2.5l 5sp sitting on 4” lift and 33”s. 12,000 pound wench and I really enjoy driving it

When he used power windows I threw up in my mouth.

I love how the headlights barely improved in 20 years...

Great video guys. Looks like u all had fun

I bought a 1995 Jeep Wangler Rio Grande when I was in college, when it first came out, brand new. 20 years later, I gave my Jeep to my son, and bought a 2015 Jeep Wrangler Willis Wheeler and am amazed the evolution. Once a Jeep always a Jeep person! Jeep Life!

Should've used a TJ Rubicon. I'd a TJ would match or beat a JKU

@matthewmullins55

8 жыл бұрын

ikr!!?

@indridcold8433

8 жыл бұрын

The TJ Rubicon is the ultimate off road vehicle. Nothing can come close, unless you build up something else.

@tylersteen7997

7 жыл бұрын

JK Rubicon would still take it. More suspension travel, more room for tires, electronic sway bar disconnects, and still nearly 100 hp more. The TJ used with the money sunk into it for the price of a new JK, the TJ would body bag it. But, stock for stock, the JK would still beat it out by a decent margin.

@indridcold8433

7 жыл бұрын

Tyler Steen The JK rubicon has more horsepower at 6000 rpm than the TJ. Very few drive at those high rpms. At lower RPMS, needed for offroad, the TJ has a lot more. The power band is very different on the JK and the TJ engines. I doubt a TJ engine could even get to 6000 rpms. It was made for low end torque, not high end horsepower. The Pentstar 3.6 was rated at 6000 rpms. The 190 horsepower for the TJ was rated at a very usable 3500 rpms. It is just a low revving off road engine verses a high revving general purpose engine.

@NH2112

4 жыл бұрын

Tyler Steen my 06 Rubicon has manual sway bar disconnects so I don’t have to worry about electronics failing. Outside of mud bogs or sand drags the 100 extra HP don’t mean anything, and my 4.0l torque curve is pretty close to that of a JK. Factoring in my much lower weight and possibly better gears (do JK Rubicons come with 4.11s?) I might have the advantage there. But the JK is almost as wide as a full-size pickup, I take my TJ down ATV trails with a 6’x8’ trailer to get firewood and I wouldn’t recommend following me with a JK unless you don’t like your fenders or paint.

The highlight of this vid? Nathan's shirt. Is that really a Big Trouble in Little China shirt? Ha fantastic!

what top do you have on the yj and where did you get it from?

man this is a sick video, you can really see how the new jeep made it look effortless, but yeah the older jeep def looks fun and everything. love jeeps for sure

"Y'know . . . this air conditioner works great!" lol

Interesting video and yes, it's all about the tires and lockers

Itook my 95 base yj rock climbing with modded 4- dr JKs, and i completed everything they did. these were huge climbs too.

I love the YJ. I have an 89 YJ Sahara myself. Bought it in 02. Been with me ever since.

use same tire and put a locker in the 95 then u can go anywhere

My 2011 4runner sr5 with a 3" Toytec Boss lift kit and 33's Duratracs can make it too without a struggle lol

@Bagger1978

9 жыл бұрын

Hugo Huerta My 2008 Ridgeline with 2" lift and 32's wouldn't have trouble either.. I say who cares what you run as long as you aren't afraid to use it. :)

@donpancho5455

9 жыл бұрын

My 1738 Toyota Camry can make it without a struggle

@loganeditor6728

9 жыл бұрын

Hugo Huerta My 97 Jeep TJ with 35" Nitto Mud Grapplers, 3.5 Rubicon Lift kit, upgraded longer front and rear control arms, with 4.56 gears. I could do it blind folded. The stuff they did is equivalent to me going down to my house.

@him19831

9 жыл бұрын

Logan [Editor]​ LMAO !!

@loganeditor6728

9 жыл бұрын

Hugo Huerta It true, sound like ya got a nice rig ya self Hugo.

I have an 87 YJ, really nice jeep. Modern technology obviously is much better than mine but the look of it is much better. Jeeps now don’t look like how they were back then.

Re Eggitheshadow and old, real Jeeps, truer words were never spoken. My uncle dove a 1945 Ford army Jeep until the 90s, and it outlasted him. My siblings and I all learned how to shift on our 61 Willys, which we kept for nearly 40 years(which is about the top speed,40!). I'm restoring our 92 YJ for my 17 year old, and not an automatic among them. The Willys had no door or roof, never did. But a hell of a good time to drive through the woods.

Why would you get an old Jeep that's automatic? Manual Jeeps or nothing IMO

@ErinTurco21

8 жыл бұрын

Hammer Smith OK I wouldn't go that far, all I'm trying to say is there is no experience like driving an old Manual shift Jeep. And I didn't mean to sound so elitist in my original post.

@danmadden8597

8 жыл бұрын

+Hammer Smith you're about as smart as a hammer too

@skooterbob

5 жыл бұрын

So automatics can be kinda nice for crawling, but manuals are awesome (what I have) for just about everything else.

@street_legal_go_kart7356

4 жыл бұрын

Lol thank God the rest of the world doesn't feel like that unless you're rock crawlers Rock bouncers are usually Auto for a reason. Much better control in the rocks. Why choose an outdated slow shifting transmission?

@niel67354

3 жыл бұрын

@@street_legal_go_kart7356 cause I want to...

What a horse shit comparison. Different tires, different drivers, and a lame ass trail.

@azhurelpigeon

8 жыл бұрын

+Colton Marino You really think the YJ would have a chance regardless?

That tiny little mud spot was a joke. I go through stuff far worse than that in my stock 95 YJ all the time. The only time my stock YJ with 31inch tires has been stuck is when I went through a water hole not knowing how deep the ruts where and buried my front diff in sand. Five minutes with a shovel and I was right back out. And that old school straight 6 is a die hard.

Need to mention that the open diff..can be changed at expense.. and the tires could be aired down a little for free. Well need a little compressor after LOL. Cool video guys !

I have a 93 yj . this is crap I can smoke a new jeep. you can go as slow as you want but that is notr teal life. a good driver makes the trail not the car

"Off road" lmao

just watching this makes me want to hop in my 94 yj and offroad right now!

I know this is an older clip I love them all. I'm just jealous you guys get to play with all the fun toys Just in the name of informing the public wow why didn't I think of that friggin great work though thank you so much

May I ask where you filmed this video? Looks really cool

I'll tell one thing they both have in common... They both leak when it rains out!!

@spencermunson6044

6 жыл бұрын

M. Ferreira why i got an xj😂👌

We have a 1995 in excellent condition all chromed and diamond plated out for sale! 7,500.00 firm all new tires and battery and done allot of work on it. Stick shift 4 wheel drive its gorgeous. Its on Craigslist in ft. Smith Arkansas if interested. Rag top

THAT TJ DRIVING AT THE end was perfect its the blend between yj and new jeep not to old or new, has everything new you need

Wow reading these comments are depressing "new jeeps dont feel like the old jeeps did", "jeeps has lost its offroad soul" non of that makes any since, i went from owning a cj to a jk, the jk is just more technical (only because they have to, to meet legal standards) My stock Jk sport handles better than my friends tj, and my others yj, if jeeps "lost its offroad soul" why would the newer ones offroad better than the new ones? I feel like 60% of the jeep community needs to stop living in the past and stop complaining about everything little thing jeep does, if you dont like it great, keep your old rusted jeep, just stop talking shit on stuff thats better And just accept it

@ffhjvbuydb78eb

6 жыл бұрын

Easton Hirsh nah you can't beat older cars or trucks compared to new cars and trucks. The old could take a beating and the new is wimpy

@openscholar9908

5 жыл бұрын

Roxor

@andyg111985

5 жыл бұрын

You're an idiot

4 wheel drive is almost useless without lockers. It helps in soft sand/dirt but again, the right tires fix that. You won't be doing any crawling without lockers. I off road all the time and never once needed 4 wheel drive because I don't crawl. Plus that straight 6 is the best engine ever made. They can't die

There is a glaring irony that the reasons why the YJ was over criticized I.E. the "yuppie jeep" are the exact same reasons that rubicon even exists.

I always wanted a Jeep Wrangler and I finally had the opportunity to buy one about 5 years ago now I have a 2014 Jeep Wrangler 2 door sport. Everything was stock and it was the absolute basic model nothing power. I remember first starting with rims and tires so I upgraded to 31in all terrains very impressed with handling and slight off road stuff. Then when I started to do more things outdoors I looked into some armor so I got steel front and rear bumpers. After taking it out time after time I noticed my ground clearance wasn’t up to par so I did research for a lift, in the beginning I went with what I can afford and lesson learned don’t cheap out on lifts. 3in custom fab lift with 1 ton suspension core4x4 complete control arm setup and all the steering components, bilstein shocks, 33in all terrain tires. Yes I can fit 37’s with that size lift but my front axle isn’t strong enough remember basic sport model. Basically after the 5 years of ownership of my Jeep I really did enjoy building it up from stock, and spending some time on adventures. Regardless of what other people say buying a Jeep weather it be an old YJ or a new JK actually taking it out and enjoying it is what it is all about. Parts for them are so readily available no matter what happens you will be up and running in no time. Not to mention they are so simple to work on and if not then finding someone to work on it is easy as well. I would never get rid of my 2 door JK for anything and believe me I had some pretty tempting offers but the value of what it had become, cannot be replaced. Buying a Jeep is buying a legacy not just another car no matter the model.

That was the weekest test ever find a real trail no one that cars drive down

Is there any new jeeps that still have the i6

@TFLcar

9 жыл бұрын

No.

@brysonshires9573

9 жыл бұрын

The Fast Lane Car Dang, guess i'll get an old jeep

@brysonshires9573

9 жыл бұрын

***** I just like the sound, balance and the reliability of i6's, might just get a used bmw

@Voltor07

8 жыл бұрын

+levin o Pentastar 3.6L in the 2015 Wrangler gets 285HP and 260 ft. lbs. of torque. Still better than a 4L.

@quadrunner2124

8 жыл бұрын

Voltor07 Did you not read his comment at all?

Really wish they’d have gone with a 2 door JK sport for a more apples to apples comparison.

What's the strap going from the windshield to the back

4.0 was a better motor average 300,000 miles don't lie

@street_legal_go_kart7356

4 жыл бұрын

0331 head

This video is almost as bad as the Raptor -vs- Wrangler. So you own a JK...Great! Good for you! Being a TJ owner myself I'm happy with my little Jeep and I'm happy to see people buying Jeeps of all years and style and joining the Jeep Family. Regardless of what year and what it has and does not have makes no difference! We are all on the same team. Look, if you have the 40k to drop on a Rubicon...good for you! But for a guy that does not have much money and wants to join the Jeep ranks and enjoy the Jeep culture...and can only afford a used CJ or TJ...leave him alone. WTF is this? What, we are going to bash the dude because he does not have the latest Rubicon? I have seen enough Ass-Hats out here in Arizona with Rubicon's who's ONLY Off-Road Adventure consists of the occasional "Speed Bump" and Flower Bed in front of the local Starbucks because they are afraid to scratch the damn thing or God forbid...GET MUD ON IT! While in the meantime the guy driving the used and "not so technological advanced" CJ and TJ is out there on the trails busting his ass learning how to USE that Jeep!

@spencermunson6044

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Skokauckas rubicon is literally just a gimmick

@combinationpizzahutandtaco3782

5 жыл бұрын

Amen

What size tires are on the yj?

My friend has an early 90's renegade, one of the best looking Jeeps in my opinion, but man the ride in that thing is harsh. But it has never left us stranded anywhere.