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2012 Honda Civic EX-L Long-Term Review, Start Up & Rev, Extended Test Drive
How a current generation civic holds up after nearly 12,000 miles. Despite the grief people have for the car. It's still a competitive small car in the class and I think it's better than the elantra.
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I got this car yesterday same color. Its nice and smooth . Now 140 KM driven
Roasting your sister the entire time 😂
This is my favorite video of yours! I dont know why but I have watched it 3 times now... Keep up the good work!
this is a very good indepth review! good job. The only thing i have to comment is...why do you bash the power? Its an economy car for good gas mileage, not a race car haha :P
@aaron.a7528
9 жыл бұрын
This particular civic was shit, that's why they made a new 9th generation one in 2014. IMO the 2006-2011 civic was the best along with the 2014-present one.
@KevinTxTx
6 жыл бұрын
DylanU12 and the color! its a different color besides black and white.
i like the way the engine cranks over too!
I like the Civic too, don't understand why people bash it. Its perfectly fine for what most people need and want out of a car. Frankly, hard touch dashboard doesn't bother me since you're not touching it. What I wish small cars should have are soft touch door sills. People rest their arms on it, and its uncomfy. I'm left handed, so my right arm is usually resting on the center console haha.
i looked up most recent videos for "2013 dodge dart", and this came up lol
i like the Civic , i use to own a 1995 Honda Civic Hatch and i loved it , great on gas only had to fill up once ever 3 weeks lol very on where i went thow lol, then sold it and bought a Mazda Protege LX was Ok not the greatest then i saw the new 2010 Mazda 3's come in was nice (i work for mazda lol ) even seen my mazda 3 come off the truck lol myn is the 2010 mazda 3 GT not the GTE the one step lower with the 2.5 witch gots tons of pep i can sqweel thows tires good lol , the one down part is
this video is great! and absolutely hilarious haha
My 12 CR-V is 4 months old and has 6700 miles. My 11 Odyssey is 9 months old and has 15,000 ( we don't drive it ) I don't care that my CR-V still uses the 5 speed auto because it's tried and true and believe it or not does 23-27 in the City and 32-35 on the highway!
The dart will still have questionable reliability and likely to have below average resale value. I have not driven one yet but the styling is nice. It depends on your needs. If you are planning to keep the car for a long time I'd get the Civic. However, if you do not plan to keep it for a while, buying the Dart may hurt you when it's time to trade it in as Dodge has not had a great reputation for building small cars.
I hate how the automotive media just tear this car apart while they let the Corolla, which is worse, pass scot-free. I can't wait to see the 2013 model!
A very good test drive overview
I have a 2012 Civic Hybrid with leather, which is essentially a civic EX-L with batteries. Its awesome to say the least. 55-70 MPG depending on the conditions. And I put about 1000 miles in 2.5 months so I don't do that much driving. Im not too concerned about the early refresh in 2013 since I already have the hybrid model, as that should hold up well since that, along with the SI, were the only civic models that were significantly different than the 8th gen's that were previous to them
My guess is that the big change for 2013 will be a backup camera and bluetooth on most Civics. A recent press release at one of the auto shows said that for 2013 all honda trucks and 95% or so percent of the cars will have back up cameras. To get those numbers most all of the Civics would need to have them. So I guess that for 2013 all cars execept the Fit and DX Civics will have backup cameras. Bluetooth is necessary because nearly everyone today drives and talks.
Thanks, I wish you reviewed the drivers seat but it would take a week or so to notice it, my 2012 civic is breaking my back and doesnt matter what kind of cushion i use it doesnt help, i hurts so bad i want to sell it. The seat got so many bad reviews it should have been recalled, also no lumbar support. I would think paying over 20grand for a car it would have that option or even an arm rest ! Have any ideas?
@marajevomanash
2 жыл бұрын
I've always found Toyota's seats to be most comfortable.
The leather in that civic looks so high quality! Looks better than the "leatherette" in that BMW 325 you did a while back
VA is really strict I agree, we also have to get an emission inspection done every 2 years in my county in addition to the yearly state inspection
civic nation all the way
Actually the gathered look of the leather seats is more of an upscale look. Plus, those gathers provide more slack in the leather so it actually releives pressure from sitting and therefore it lasts 10 times longer than regular flat leather. Be glad its there. Also, it costs more because they are giving you more material.
I don't mind it anymore, change is good
Well someone who goes to my church they just got the all new 2013 Honda Civic it has the new car small to it so i think they just got it man it looks so awsome!
The dart is soo new I would stay away from it for a couple years until there is some reliability data, dodge also just has a bad reputation in the compact car class lol.
I agree completely, or worse is consumer reports which recommends the corolla and not the civic... ugh
not yet, hoping to film one tomorrow.
The instrument cluster is weird with the Civic but it's nice still.
the only difference is the door panel trim and the seats fabric... and i acknowledge the different trim levels in the video... chill dude
Great review thanks for sharing.
hey thanks! how long have you had your 2012 Civic now? And personally, I don't think streaming Pandora is the same, maybe bc I have sprint and I never do it bc the service is slow as hell, but I just always listen to BPM on XM so I have to have it in my car lol
Exactly! 184 ftlbs of torque sound like a lot of fun in the Dart ;) And yea it def. beats the Cruze, but I like the Cruze because u can get a stick in a pretty nicely equipped model, it looks pretty nice IMO, and according to reviews drives surprisingly well.
Also the all new Earth Dreams engines and CVT's will be coming out shortly. If not for MY2013 probably for MY2014. The new Earth Dreams Technology will be a game changer. Don't be frightened by the CVT. I've heard from several sources it's like no other CVT ever produced. Earth Dreams is definitely something to look forward to!
Sorry for the wrong information. I must have read wrong. Anyway, congrats on the weekends off!
oh no! I'm hoping my parents TSX wont have the premature brake problems, last time i check honda fixed that on 11 and up models, how many miles are on your Accord?
And one more thing what tire treatment do you use? Really looks good!
in the world of economics, you never get something for nothing. The elantra is cheaper car because it is less substantial and has less dynamics. And its slower and gets worse real world mileage than the civic. You get what you pay for. Just because it may look a little better and have softer interior materials doesn't make it the better car
Go ILX! Can't wait for it to come out.
Its on my list lol but yes XM is a dealer accessory on models but I think it should be standard on higher trims and up
ehh I wouldn't worry about any issues. Our Odyssey is "supposed" to have strut problems and brake problems but nothing had happened, yet haha
belo desaigne,.lindo painel digital,belo acabamento,rodas perfeitas,som de otima qualidade, uma verdadeira obra prima so poderia ser um honda
my accord has about 18k on it. I use it about 60% highway and 40% city. But on the highway on a longer trip, is where you REALLY start to notice the rock hard seats. And yea, unfortunately, I have no idea what the heck happened, but i am hearing this rough sort of grinding noise when I brake in my Accord!
Why do some civic 2012 ex-l have navigation and others do not?
Honda will be making some significant changes to the 2013 Civic. Changes include the interior material quality, drivability, and handling. Hopefully they recalibrate the EPS and dial in a bit more road feel. That would basically be a software update. The 2013 Civic should be a significantly improved car. Erik Berkman is now the head of Honda R & D and he's the man in charge of getting back Honda's mojo. He is the right man for the job, believe me!
yah I agree with the elantra I still think its a pretty good car not perfect but I am waiting for the civic and i definitely like it more than my friends crappy mazda 3 which is a 2010, I love honda engines I think there fantastic our lawn mower and wood splitter start every time with compliant lol. My 97 impreza with 350km or 217kmiles has never let me down just wish they offered a civic in a hb to broaden the appeal. Like your pilot by the way white looks great with the grey leather.
i brother had a rental focus and it was just bad. it was new too didnt have over 2k km on it and it drove bad. it have an amazing interior but the AC was annoyingly loud and it the fan was bad. i thought it handled ok too it just felt weird
Fog lights and NAV were never standard on a Civic EX-L, Nav has always been a separate option and Fog lights have only been standard on Si models since 2009, they have always been a dealer accessory. I left Honda bc I have better hours at this dealer and get my weekends off.
Lol true but I really like it! Dodge has improved in the latest years so I really hope that they are good cars. They look really good, have many engine choices, are very customizable, and come with a 6 speed manual with the highest trim levels.
In my area, it's not dealer installed.
I've had my car far almost a year (bought in in June 11')... I clock almost 60mi a day so I've racked up the miles! I really like the car as a whole despite what the critics say - aside from the cheap door panels of course:) However, I am trading my EX for an Si in the next week or so. I like Honda's, I like the Civics...I just can't handle the vanilla acceleration from the Auto tranny. And I do agree.. there is some service interrupton with Pandora from time to time.. (I'm on sprint too)
Here is my list of how I like the cars in the compact class if I were to buy one: (all of them with the manual transmission of course) 1. Dodge Dart 2. Chevrolet Cruze 3. Mazda 3 4. Ford Focus 5. Hyundai Elantra 6. Honda Civic (Honestly 5. and 6. are tied because while I like how the Elantra looks better the Honda's interior is better, more fun to drive, and reliable of course) If the Lancer had a better interior it would be number 4, and purely based on looks the 2013 Sentra would be #4 too
lol this car doesn't have a temp gauge anymore... it only has an idiot light saying the engine is cold. I just drove the car before I made this video... you need to double check stuff before making a not so smart comment like that...
Wow so according to your 25,000 mile a year estimate, she'll have done 200,000 miles in 8 years.
what car did you have to get rid of? here in IL 95 and below dont have to take any emissions testing
I don't understand how someone can pay top dollar for the EX-L model and not get fog lights standard. 20k or more and no fog lights. I forgot, no navigation either. Why is it, that the previous model you could get those two features standard on the the EX-L? I would rather have the Elantra Coupe. I am, though, hopeful for the reworked model. Why are you no longer working at Honda?
hey thank you! Is the Civic one of your favorite compacts? lol
I used to work for Honda, too. That's how I know.
They really should put a turbocharged V6 into the civic.
redlinereveiw??
@michaelrivera1357
5 жыл бұрын
Brandon Bowden I think so
Cool review. Interesting to hear your thoughts on the car...pretty dead on with most of my likes and gripes. I have 17k on my Civic... and you mentioned a phrase which I think sums the car up completely: commuter car. For non-car enthusiests who are looking for smooth, reliable, gas friendly travel to and from work = the civic (ex & ex-l) is your car. But if you're hoping for any thrills or fun, it might not be for you..as for not having XM - streaming Pandora via BT is pretty much the same, no?
Great review of your sisters car. I'm the same way about the color of a car, yes I do not like that color. I have a 2012 Civic Coupe in Polished Metal Metallic and it has held up real well after 20,000 Miles. I would probably buy the car again but I would get a Civic Coupe EX-L with Navigation and in the color Crystal Black Pearl. I might talk to the salesman about switching the color from gray to black. I check out an Elantra Coupe I liked it but I like the sound of a Honda's VTEC engine.
Myself, I prefer the driving dynamics of the new Focus to this current Civic
Don't worry about the miles on your sisters car.That Honda if maintained correctly will go 400,000 miles easy. And as far as the Elantra PLEASE!!!! Piece of shit will be lucky to go 150,000 miles.Give me a Honda any day for long term use I own two Hondas the Element which has 180,000 miles till drives like a new SUV and I have your sisters car except I have the EX-L with navigation
I did. The EX offers leather in my area in the Bay Area. YOU CAN GET AN EX WITH LEATHER!!!!!!!!!!!AND CLOTH!!!!!!!!!!EVEN THE EX HAS HEATED SEATS IN MY AREA.
i agree that wheel is nice
EX-L means extra luxury.
Hmm. Every time I see a 2012 Civic I think of trading my '11 Accord. 35+mpg compared to about 27 mpg on my accord? Also, I should have listened, my accord does have that common "rock hard" seat problem, and premature brake wear issues.
LOL my ex is a Toyota driver, so you can hate on her as much as you want man hahaha! Hopefully my next girl won't be a Toyota driver, those vehicles are so bland. The 4Runner is the only model I would consider. Excellent video as usual :) .
'04 with 68k for $10k? Sounds like it has water damage or a salvage title. An '04 w/ 68k should cost around $15k. I hope you know how to work on German cars, my friend has same body style 3 series as the 04 and shit started to break right around 70k miles.
I'm just joking :P I really can't wait to see what they do with the next civic. I've been in a bunch of the last gen (I tried to get my dad to buy one when he was car shopping) and it felt very nice for what it is but when I got in this one at the auto show it was just a smack in the face of cheapness and it amazed me coming from honda!
II was in the same dilemma, you can get a GREAT deal on a Dart though since it's not honda. Honda were more aggressive when it came down to negotiating and not to mention, rude.
And the SE has leather too.
Hey, I just bought the same model civic about a month ago, with 870 miles so far. I've been doing a lot of highway driving, but have only been getting 28.5 MPG (and I've used the ECON mode quite a bit) Any ideas why I'm not getting the good MPG??
@DonVerchi700as
Жыл бұрын
Maybe you need new spark plugs and air filter. Replace the cabin air filter as well.
Fits better looking ;)
Despite not really liking this very much, its probably my 3rd favorite in the compact car class. First would probably be the Mazda3. Focus would be 2nd, only cause of MFT, its not as good to drive as the Mazda, and the reliability is still kinda iffy.
And of course I didn't count the Toyota Corolla because I'd never waste my money on a Toyota.
And yes, I agree. The Elantra's power train is a dog. idk y the transmission is so slow, its quick in the Kias.. Even a friend of mine who also has an SX forte had a 2012 base elantra rental car after a jeep hit him and even he said compared to SX, the transmission shifts slow, the engine doesn't like to rev, and that the steering sucks compared to our car's hydraulic setup
Btw, my uncle has a 2012 Honda Insight.
the L package usually only adds leather and heated seats... which is why it stands for leather... there is nothing luxury about that
look it up yourself, I used to work for Honda, it was in the training
intreasting chime...i like the old Honda Beep more though.
haha aww sorry, i mean its still a pretty color! I think I would get crimson pearl first followed by dyno blue pearl
I would wait for the 2013 updates Honda is planning for the Civic tho :)
you did Elantra GLS (Least Trim Level) and this is EXL Civic(Top of the Trim) STOP COMPARING CAR THAT LOW TRIM AND HIGH TRIM!
this is a good car, but i think its too cheap. i dont mind its plastics, but its styling really brings out its cheap-ass plastics. the new dodge dart looks better. what do you think about the dart? and btw do you wash your sister/parents car for the love of cars ot do you do it cause they tell you?
In my area you can get cloth or leather..... I don't know about yours.
Korean cars are always a better value, thats never going to change, but their driving dynamics always disappoint me, and honestly, the Elantra isn't that much cheaper than a Civic EX anymore
nice car
ha the Arm Rest looks similar to the one in my 2000 Accord!
Aww I was about to say I liked the color then you called it feminine :P I drive a baby blue beetle so I guess things like that don't really bother me LOL eve though they cheapened it a lot I still like the civic. I'll take it over a crapolla or an elantra any day!
i do it bc im a nice person and i cant stand it when a nice or new car is filthy lol and im impressed with the Dart, its just dodge has a really bad reputation in the c-segment and the car is soo new and unknown in long term reliability
Basiclly. I want an 08 Si for my first car..
Go check the 2013 Ford Fusion!!
Yes, I floored the car at times, you kind of have too with a car with so little power, but Honda engines like to rev so it's ok
the elantra is brand new model to market just like all there models it's going to have bugs but considering there old cars its a very good car still. The current civic isn't that good as i was hoping it would be. The focus is to heavy, gm and Chrysler are to unreliable. And if is point of buying a car that i personal don't like the interior/exterior and can't get comfortable in. I would buy a fit before a civic cause its super practical and I prefer hb.
You say this car is better than the elantra but isn't the elantra a better value. I want a quiet commuter car with good gas and bluetooth with xm. I don't want to pay more for a honda. ???????
hehehe thanks! I was about to ask you all "which would you rather drive if I gave you the keys and said take your pick?" ;)
'stupid camry' 'im so mean to toyota drivers' LOL LOL
oh i agree, i think its much better than the cruze, especially with that 1.4T engine with 160 hp and 184 ft lbs of torque, the cruze's turbo engine looks pathetic compared to that lol
Its true man japanese cars just have better driving dynamics than koreans or american cars. My bro even tells me and he has driven the new focus, elantra, and 2012 malibu. And korean cars are not that much better value
They can't make them fast enough. I bought the last Gen Civic EX-L in 2009 and as much as I thought I like the dash style and engine refinement and road fee, I soon realized how cheap the lack of carpet, door panels scuffed up really bad on the lower part and the dash was plastic the road noise was ridiculous and everyone suffered who sat in the back seat. The civic will last longer Elantra is much cheaper and Hyundai makes deals.trade in time civic is worth more to the dealer not the trader.
Yeah but who floors their car all the time? You can't look at it like that. I mean, the only CR-V of your generation I've rode in is a 2002, and that has the 4AT. The tranny def shifts quicker than the 2011 I ride in all the time tho.