Finally! A good explanation as to why I cannot get a good pedal feel in my Fusion. Thank you so much!

Great explanation. But please get a tripod. Your camera person was having a tough time keeping the camera still. Thanks for the informative video.

Thank You Soo Much, and you were right, power bleeding, vacuum bleeding, nothing. Your procedure worked and the guy pumping the brakes got a nice leg work out.

Thank you so much for this. Struggling with one now. Life saver!!

Thanks this the best explanation that I have seen.

As the owner of a 2011 Fusion and other Ford vehicles I have to share that changing the brake fluid every 1-2 years goes a long way in preventing and sometimes solving these issues, specially if brakes are heavily used (city or hilly country driving). For Fords, ForScan(r) and the proper OBDLink cable or an ELM327 compatible adapter/cable runs you less than $100 and do the air bleed function.

@davidgertz1317

Жыл бұрын

Exactly correct. Replacing the entire fluid in the system will prevent the valve seizure in the ABS valve body and is something that many vehicle owners tend to neglect. Brake fluid absorbs moisture over time and becomes corrosive to the metals in the system. The moisture can also boil under the heat & pressures of heavier than normal brake applications. When the fluid in the reservoir turns from a yellowish clear to a brownish color, it's time to change it.

This procedure was very beneficial and is appreciated! Thx

@davidgertz1317

6 ай бұрын

I'm glad it helped you! Thank you

How can you tell if the hcu is sticking with no abs or brake warning lights on. Will the pump simply not work when performing abs bleed function on scan tool?

hello, please tell me, is the ABS module the same from Explorer? or how part number ? thanks

Thank you sir, fighting with one now after a rear caliper blow out that came to the shop

@Tee82R

4 ай бұрын

Did it work my left rear caliber blew out and I can get any pressure after I turn the car on?

currently dealing with this problem

Fighting this now after replacing HCU and MC. Do I understand you correctly that the pedal is depressed during motor operation in scanner function? My OTC scanner request pedal application before automated HCU valve opening and pedal release before motor operation. After a half a gallon of fluid, no air from bleeders and still no firm pedal.

Thanks for this video, I’m going to be testing my master cylinder next. I was wondering if you had any insight for my issue. I'm trying to troubleshoot a super spongy brake problem with a 2012 ford fusion. I tried the abs bleed and that unfortunately didn't solve the problem. I was going to try a pressure bleed next. So I'm just going down the list. Theres currently little to no pressure at the drivers rear caliper when you push the pedal and it sounds like a seal when you push the pedal in the car. Any thoughts? Also, How do you tell if the ABS hydraulic control module is bad? Thanks again and sorry for so many questions on a clip from a year ago.

@davidgertz1317

Жыл бұрын

If you have no fluid leaks, ruled out any stuck calipers and tested the master cylinder as shown in this video, then the HCM is the cause of the spongy pedal as it is a known issue on the 2012 Fusion. You can find many videos on replacing the HCM. Once you do, then follow my exact bleed procedure in this video

Awesome Video. I have a 2012 Ford Fusion. The ABS keeps locking up the wheels when I drive. I replaced all the ABS sensors and cleaned the reluctor rings and still no luck. I guess I have to take it in to the Ford Dealership to get it checked out.

@davidgertz1317

2 жыл бұрын

Either you have sticking calipers or stuck valves in the HCM. The hydraulic control module for the ABS is not serviceable and will need to be replaced

@Just-lyrics-and-Riddim

5 ай бұрын

It’s the clamp that holds the brake line to the strut.it squeezes the line to tight causes the fluid not to release as soon as you release the brakes pedal

Nice video. I also have a 2012 FFusion. The issue is that there is no brake oil reaching the rare driver side wheel. Hence that wheel is not braking and the car veers to one side as a result upon braking. I have checked the break like it seems the break oil is not reaching from the master cylinder. Have you seen this problem before? Thanks In advance

@davidgertz1317

2 жыл бұрын

Each wheel is independently controlled by the ABS hydraulic control module. There are three electronically controlled valves per wheel in the HCM as explained in the video. When any of those valves freeze (stick) internally in the HCM that control the respective wheel, then you will lose all fluid pressure to the wheel. You will need to replace the HCM with the OEM Ford part as the valve body is non -serviceable. Only replace the valve body excluding the electronic controlling portion of the ABS, otherwise the ECM will not recognize it without a reprogram. Once you replace the HCM follow the bleeding instructions in this video. You could skip testing the master cylinder as explained in this video because you would lose either both front and or both rear wheel line pressure if it was defective. You can find many You Tube videos to assist in replacing the HCM.

Thank you for this information! I’ll be trying this on my ford fusion 2010 soon. Hopefully this works because I’m running out of ideas.

@davidgertz1317

4 ай бұрын

I'm certain it will work for you if you're experiencing this issue. Thanks

Where did you get the master cylinder plugs. I couldn't find any with the correct diameter or thread pitch for the life of me.

@davidgertz1317

2 жыл бұрын

Napa or Autozone should have them included in a master cylinder bleed kit

THANK YOU THANK YOU Sir!!!! I have been having so much trouble with this after replacing the ABS module/pump after a wreck. LF and RR would bleed fine but LR and RF would not flow at all. Hard to find info out there about this procedure as everyone tells you it should bleed like an old car, not true.

@davidgertz1317

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad it helped you. Thank You

@popcorn7876

2 жыл бұрын

I have the same issue in RF and LR after replaced master cylinder How do you solved it?

@chrisv4640

2 жыл бұрын

@@popcorn7876 I actually ended up I loosening and removing the furthest to the front larger line on the abs valve block . I had my helper pump the brakes while I 'bled' that line by holding my thumb over the end of it hard enough that air would not suck in but air would push out... I had an airlock between the master cylinder and the ABS valve. I could feel it in the pedal too, like the first half of the pedal travel was a light spring.

@popcorn7876

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisv4640 thanks

@levitroyer5894

2 жыл бұрын

Did you end up bleeding it without the scan tool?

Keep the caliper bleeder valve closed and the pedal to the metal until the scan tool bleed function completes and the abs electric motor stops. Open then close the bleeder to relieve the pressure. After you close the bleeder, pump the pedal then hold down again and repeat the process

Where on earth did you get those plugs for the master cylinder.... I can't seem to find them anywhere. I found some cheap ones on amazon that where metal, but they leak....

@dougsanders6034

4 ай бұрын

I had the same problem. I finally found some on amazon, and like you said , they are loose. I thought about getting the brake line fittings and soldering up the holes. Good luck.

Great video! I am working on a 2010 Mercury Mariner with very similar setup. ABS HCU is a common failure point so I replaced it with a reman, but can't get a good pedal. When I run the ABS bleed procedure with my scan tool, it says keep pressure on the pedal and then it cycles the ABS pump 3 times over maybe 30 seconds. Should I open/close the bleeder after each of the 3 pump cycles during the procedure or let the 3 pump cycles run and then open the bleeder? Thanks in advance!!

@davidgertz1317

5 ай бұрын

Hold the brake pedal down before you run the scan tool's bleed function. Keep the brake pedal held down continuously until the bleed function completes and you open then close the wheel bleeder valve your working on. If you don't have an assistant in the car, then you can use a brake pedal depressor as long as you do not release the pedal when applying the pedal depressor. I have never experienced this with any other vehicles other than the Fords that use this type of ABS system.

@TyCDenton

5 ай бұрын

@@davidgertz1317 Thank you for the reply! Yeah, it's the darndest thing. I did the same as you-went through two bottles of fluid trying to bleed and couldn't get any pedal at all. I'm going to give your process a try over the weekend. Thank you, again!

@TyCDenton

5 ай бұрын

@davidgertz1317 I completed your procedure on my 2010 Mariner today and the pedal was definitely improved, but still pretty soft. What I did after the procedure (and probably should have done first) was bleed the master cylinder using the bleed nipple on the side of it. I had my helper pump the brakes a few times and hold, opened the bleeder on the master, and got some air out of it. Did that a couple of times and the pedal was golden.

@davidgertz1317

5 ай бұрын

@@TyCDenton Glad to hear that worked Mr. Denton! Unlike your Mariner and many of the older Ford Rangers I've worked on in the past, the 2012 Fusions do not have a bleeder valve on the master cylinder. It is always required to first bleed the air between the lines between the master cylinder and the ABS hydraulic control module first before running the scan tool bleed function anytime air is introduced. Air is introduced anytime the master cylinder's reservoir is run dry by replacing a master or HCM and replacing HCM to master brake lines. In the video you can loosen the fitting at the HCM to gravity bleed out most of the air if you ever in the future work on a vehicle without a bleeder valve on the master cylinder. Another good trick is to keep the pedal depressed if you ever have to replace anything upstream or downstream to the HCM if air was not introduced. The master cylinder's piston blocks off the air hole port on the master cylinder when the brake pedal is depressed like holding your finger over the end of a straw when you pull the straw out of a glass of liquid.

The all four wheels is what I needed to hear bc we bled the backs when we changed rotors rear left caliper and pads, and still kept having a squishy-ish petal. Ford fusions like to fight whenever you decide to work on them

@davidgertz1317

10 ай бұрын

Due to the design of the HCM used on the 2012 Fusion having ABS control of each wheel independently, you will have a spongy pedal if any of the 12 soilnoid valves in the HCM are stuck internally. This usually happens when an ABS event is triggered then any of the valves do not release and return to their normal position. The other cause is air within the HCM that needs to be removed. FYI, if you ever need to chage a caliper or brake line or hose on this vehicle, keep a brake pedal depressor on the pedal before you begin. You can disconnect the battery negative or remove the brake light fuse first. This will keep air from entering the HCM while you replace the caliper, lines, or hoses. Glad this helped you.

@muffinz699

10 ай бұрын

@@davidgertz1317 thank you! Now we know. Used to working on older cars where’s its just all easy to do I appreciate it!

Really good info. I have a 2011 Ford Fusion Hybrid. Brake system failed and abs lights on dash. Checked abs system with a scanner and got 8 codes. Discovered it is probably the abs module and that it is located on the passenger side rear of the engine compartment under some AC lines and heater hoses. Supposedly you have to disconnect the AC lines to get access to the module. What the hell was Ford thinking??

@daniferguson8841

4 күн бұрын

Omg same exact problem with my 2011 fusion hybrid (all started about 8-9 months ago). Did you ever resolve the issues with yours?

Great video! Can this procedure be performed with a Motive Pressure Bleeder along with a Scan Tool?

@davidgertz1317

3 ай бұрын

Pressure bleeding will be of no help. Follow this procedure to remove the air from the HCU

@mikemadonna9449

3 ай бұрын

David, thanks for the reply. How about a simple brake fluid flush, not brake bleed?

@davidgertz1317

3 ай бұрын

You can flush the system using standard bleeding procedures as long as you do not introduce air between the master cylinder and the hydraulic control module. I would recommend running the scan tool bleed function a couple times to flush the old fluid out of the HCM otherwise it will remain internally. Old brown brake fluid has absorbed moisture and that is what causes the control valves to eventually seize and fail in the HCM

Great Info. Wondering what size flare wrench for front and rear caliper bleeder screws? Thanks!!

@davidgertz1317

2 жыл бұрын

10mm front 8mm rear

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Follow this video to the t. After spending 5 days I'm trying to get the brakes blood on this, this procedure will work within m inutes

After replacing the ABS and try to bleed it using this scan tool, have you ever encounter mismatch vin# issue? How did you solve it? I am thinking of reprogramming the ABS

@davidgertz1317

3 ай бұрын

If you replaced the electronic control board for the ABS, then you will have a mismatch with the main PCM. Normally you need to only replace the hydraulic valve portion of the ABS and use the existing ABS electronic control. The only way to match a different ABS board to the VIN is with OEM read/write software. Some of the high-end scan tools have the function.

@g.f.p.8630

3 ай бұрын

@@davidgertz1317 Thank you

Curious question, as im going to have to replace the hcu on mine, same issue with the valve sticking, but does the abs module and hcu both have to be changed, or can i just change only the hcu?

@davidgertz1317

Жыл бұрын

You only need to replace the HCU. Once the assembly is removed, the control module will unbolt from the HCU then onto the new one. If you replace the control module the PCM will not recognize it unless it's ESN is flash programed into the PCM requiring special equipment.

@Smokie1523

Жыл бұрын

@@davidgertz1317 thanks for the info sir!

@craighoekstra1811

11 ай бұрын

Ok I replaced the whole assembly before I read a couple comments that said to keep the original hcu. I replaced the whole assembly with a used one. Is that why I can’t get pressure to the drivers right caliper? I can operate the pump with my scan tool but I can’t get any pressure to build in the petal. Should I try to get my original assembly I turned in for a core charge?

@Smokie1523

11 ай бұрын

@@craighoekstra1811 curious what the issue was that led to you changing it in the first place. I ask since mine was covered under a recall. If regular dot3 brake fluid was used with the original hcu, it could cause valves to stick open and cause the brake pedal to go to the floor before any braking would take place. It happened multiple times to me in a 2008 fusion, and after several times takin it back to the ford dealership, they replaced the hcu, and ive had no issues since.

@craighoekstra1811

11 ай бұрын

@@Smokie1523 brake pedal went to the floor before any braking would take place. Replaced master cylinder and then hcu i think i just need to keep bleeding.

Should we run the bleed procedure with car off or on

@davidgertz1317

5 ай бұрын

Car off. Key in the on position when running the scan tool bleed function

Hey man so when the scanner is bleeding the ABS pump and brake pedal is being held all the way down is that when you would open the bleeder valve at the caliper or wait till the abs pump bleed has stopped?

@davidgertz1317

Жыл бұрын

Keep the pedal down while running the bleed function. Do not open the bleeder valve until the function is complete. You will here the abs motor stop when it is. Make sure the pedal is not released until the bleeder is opened then closed.

@freddyrodriguez3333

Жыл бұрын

Man I've done the procedure over and over again and I still don't have pedal or any pressure at the calipers. I've also tried other ways and nothing. At this point I'm wondering if we got another bad abs pump. Master cylinder is new and holds pressure when plugged off but after the abs pump I get fluid at the calipers but no pressure at all and no pedal. Any advice?

@davidgertz1317

Жыл бұрын

@@freddyrodriguez3333 Make sure you are pumping up the brake pedal and holding it down before running the scan tool bleed function. Do you hear the ABS electric motor run for a few seconds when running the bleed function? Afterwards do not release the brake pedal until the wheel bleeder is opened then closed. Was the red ABS indicator light remaining lit when your brake problem first began? If so then you may have other electrical problems in system (wheel sensor, communication between modules, ect.) that you will need a scan tool to read the specific ABS fault code.

@freddyrodriguez3333

Жыл бұрын

When the car first had the brake issue the pedal would go all the way down then the brakes would catch at the bottom. This happened outta nowhere and no warning lights or anything. I've checked for abs faults with the autel mx808 scanner and nothing is present. It's frustrating cause I've done many vehicles and this one just won't bleed correctly. I've pumped the brakes and held the pedal and still nothing. I've done it with the car off and on. I mean I'm trying anyway I can but still nothing. Pedal goes all the way down easy. I can spin the rotors with my fingers after having my helper pumping and holding before I bleed.

@davidgertz1317

Жыл бұрын

@@freddyrodriguez3333 Definitely an HCM issue as no ABS fault codes present. I'm assuming you bled the lines between the master cylinder & the HCM as shown in the video. Not sure if you said you replaced the master, however if you did make certain you bench bled it before installing. Check your caliper hoses & replaced if the rubber is deteriorated as they will balloon under pressure. Also don't use a replacement HCM from a bone yard. You can find the OEM from online Ford part distributors for under 500 bucks

I wish someone would show a scantool screen and actually doing the procedure in real time, not explaining how it SHOULD go or using a stand-in.

@davidgertz1317

3 ай бұрын

Not all scan tools have an ABS Bleed function. If it does it will be an option in the main menu. Select the make, year, and model "2012 Ford Fusion", then the scan tool will step you through the rest of the process.

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Thank very much.......I would highly suggest 1 of 2 things....invest in a tripod (they are very affordable) OR hire a camera operator that doesn't have Parkinson's. or maybe this was a prank and you had them blindfolded and asked them to "Erase this Etch-a-Sketch" ?

@davidgertz1317

2 жыл бұрын

I apologize for the shakiness. Hope the content helped with your vehicle.

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