Well done. Thank you very much for taking the time to do this video.

@zmotorsports62

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment. Mike

Thank you sir for the time and effort to put this presentation together. I’ve been learning how to work on my own bikes thanks to people like you who have been gracious enough to share your knowledge and experiences. Thanks very much! 👍🏽

@zmotorsports62

6 жыл бұрын

+JC Galiano thank you very much for the comments. It is nice to know these videos are beneficial. Thank you for watching. Mike

More bike build/maintenance videos! Love it and thanks for sharing your knowledge and time!

@zmotorsports62

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I’ve been so busy building mine and my son’s Jeeps lately I haven’t had much time for work on bikes. My son and I will be building his new to him 2014 Street Glide in the near future so I’ll be sure to get some video if it. Thank you for watching and commenting. Mike

@DukeCityRambler

5 жыл бұрын

@@zmotorsports62 I also have a 2004 WJ I am building also...so I am really excited if you all video any of that process! Thanks again!

Excellent instruction. It’s always great to watch and learn from a master technician. I noticed you have a machine shop as well so you have my respect as well. I’m an A&P mechanic, retired USAF 20 Aircraft Maintainer. Knowing you know your torque specifications by memory is amazing. Great Job! Enjoy your ride 👍🇺🇸

@zmotorsports62

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate the comments and thank you for taking the time to watch. Thank you for your service. Mike

Great video..great job very informative thanks

@zmotorsports62

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you and thanks for taking the time to watch. Mike

awsome video..great job very informative thanks

@zmotorsports62

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you and thanks for watching. Mike.

@-MrRichBiker1967

5 жыл бұрын

Haha... that was the best joke I heard today

It's funny, I had a transmission bearing issue because of the primary chain adjuster. I replaced all the bearings in the transmission, and replaced the automatic chain adjuster with a Baker manual adjuster. My procedure was much the same as yours in replacing the adjuster. After all the oils warm up, you hear nothing but the shifting drum moving when I put it in gear after waiting for a traffic light. I enjoyed your video.

@zmotorsports62

6 жыл бұрын

+Anthony Caiati thank you and thanks for watching. Mike

Good video. I learned something today. It was a good day. I’m leaning towards an old mans bike in the not so distant future.

@zmotorsports62

3 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with an “old man’s bike”. I love mine. 😜 Thanks for taking the time to watch. Mike

Hi Mike/Z. Ran across you on GJ and now on youtube. Good info on the bagger, I have one of my own, good job on the whole install, the only thing I saw that was off was the front end was cinched down which is why you had to fill up with so much oil.

@zmotorsports62

6 жыл бұрын

+Billy Raibourn possibly affected it a very little amount but I didn't have it pulled down that tight and I used just under what they call for dry. Thanks for watching. Mike

The Baker tensioner looks like the old Harley part that we ran in the Shovelhead

@zmotorsports62

7 жыл бұрын

Jerry Hubbard agreed. It is similar to the earlier OEM Harley tensioner. Thanks for watching. Mike.

you're supposed to check it cold and check the full deflection travel of the chain. push it all the way up, measure and then all the way down, measure.

if you set the factory OEM Harley auto tensioner to the correct tension and then put a tac weld on the auto ramp you get the perfect tensioner that will never overtighten for basically free....

Mike, Thanks for the video! I have an 09 ultra classic CVO that I just pulled the primary cover and am going to change the tensioner to the Baker manual tensioner. I have a question, can I put in the screaming eagle compensator that you have? What all will I need if I do? I am also updating the timing chain and cams to gear, Andrews 21 grind cams, adjustable EZ install rods and a S&S Power commander while I am at it. Thanks in advance! Bob Six

Excellent info

@zmotorsports62

Жыл бұрын

Thank you and thanks for watching. Mike

Great video... :-)

@zmotorsports62

Жыл бұрын

Thank you and thanks for taking the time to watch. Mike

Good job

@zmotorsports62

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you and thanks for taking the time to watch. Mike

Excellent tutorial....Thank you :)

Great job and nice garage! You should check out Southern Oregon hot bikes primary chain tensioner it’s hydraulic automatic real nice piece 149.95 👍🇺🇸😎

@zmotorsports62

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. That work was done in my old shop. If you think that’s nice you should really check out my new shop. Thanks for watching. Mike

I have a 2010 Heritage. I know it is not a CVO but it is a great bike. The only oil that I have ever run since Harley break in oil is Amsoil ONLY. Beats all other lubes hands down. Try it, you may like it. They make 20-50 for the engine plus filter. They now have fluid for primary and separate for transmission. About $100.00 for all.

@zmotorsports62

7 жыл бұрын

Jerry Hubbard thanks for your comments and thanks for watching. Oil opinions are very subjective in case you haven't noticed. Some think because they have run brand X and have not experienced any adverse issues it must be the absolute best oil on the market. I have been a mechanic for 3 decades now and have had good results with many various brands and some not so good results with particular lubricants in that time frame. Me personally I am just not as big of a fan of Amsoil as others. That's just my opinion and I am sure there are some that will disagree. Mike.

@jerryhubbard4461

7 жыл бұрын

After a lot of independent research, I find that Amsoil is best for me. Sure, there are many brands and many opinions but Amsoil only makes lubricants as most other companies, it is a side product. Not sure at this time but I know HD oil was made by Sonoco. I have never been a fan of HD oil. There again, many opinions and whatever you like, fine by me.

@zmotorsports62

7 жыл бұрын

Agreed Jerry. Run whatever lubricants you feel are best for your needs or requirements. Thanks again for watching. Mike.

@ajcaiati

7 жыл бұрын

Jerry Hubbard I can say I truly agree. I've used Mobil 1, and Mobil 1 is an excellent engine oil. What I noticed is that my oil pressure when at operating temperature is about 3 to 5 lbs. greater when waiting for a traffic light on a nice hot day. This is my first Harley Davidson. I've had this 2009 FLHX Street Glide almost 2 years now. I really like it, and became very familiar with it in the time I've had it. I use Amsoil in all 3 cases, I use the 75/90 in the transmission, and 20/50 in the primary and engine. Like I said in my earlier post, when waiting for a traffic light. When it's time to put it in gear, all you hear is the shifting drum turning. No clunks, AT ALL!

zmotorsports: You're welcome, thanks for the video which also informs fellow bikers of the problem that is inherent with the CVO 110 primary drive compensator situation. Knowledge is power and we all learn something new, from someone else, to make a more well informed decision, when spending our hard earned money on the machines we love to ride..........keep up the good work.

Good job. Don't you change the seal from the primary?

@zmotorsports62

4 жыл бұрын

Not the inner seal if it isn’t leaking.

Hello, very good videos, I wanted to ask you a question, what size are the compensator nut and the clutch nut? thank you very much.

@zmotorsports62

3 жыл бұрын

The Screamin’ Eagle/CVO compensator used a T70 Torx socket. If memory serves the clutch hub nut is either 1-3/16” or 1-1/2”. Thanks for watching. Mike

I HOPE YOU KNOW that your method of measuring the amount of play in the chain was very much different with the old tensioner and the new tensioner. You were actually lifting the chain up beyond its normal state when measuring the slack after the new tensioner was installed.

Also, I've always been told you should adjust the tension from the tightest part of the chain?

@zmotorsports62

7 жыл бұрын

You want to set the tension on any chain on the side that does not have the tensioner which is usually the driven side, the side that is pulled tight by the driving sprocket. Mike.

@amberbali8881

5 жыл бұрын

You want to rotate the chain and find the tight spot. Been this way for years. Other than that, good video, nice garage.

why did you take the clutch hub nut and the compensator off? You didn't need to do that to replace the tensioner.

This coming Wednesday, I was to have my 96 inch upgraded to a 103 big bore kit. After much research, I am not going to just have them put in the SE-255 cams. What I read is the upgrade of the pistons and jugs is such a small amount that the cams are the way to go to get more torque. I was talking about the upgrade about the 103 and with having to run another 500 miles for break in, they recommend dinasoar oil. I told them that I have had Amsoil in this engine for the past 4 plus years. He said we would rather run the HD oil as Amsoil was synthetic. I told him I really did not want to mix the oils. But to keep on the good side of the warrantee, I said ok. Now that I am not going to have new rings put in the engine, I will run my Amsoil. I really don't think he is right about this as they sell synthetic for HD's I don't see a problem with a break in of the cams as the rings would require. Another thing HD does is pull the cam rockers instead of adjustable push rods. I have had both in the past and I don't have any plans to make any other changes to the engine, I will take the HD push rods over adjustable.

@zmotorsports62

7 жыл бұрын

Jerry Hubbard I've run those cams in several engines and have been very pleased with the results as well. I agree the slightly larger bore is going to net marginal gains compared to the benefit of the cams. When I was building race engines I always ran petroleum oil for break in prior to switching to synthetics for ring seating purposes. If your not changing cylinders/pistons/rings you should be fine to continue with the synthetic. Personally I'm a fan of adjustable pushrods though, but that is just me. Mike.

@jerryhubbard4461

7 жыл бұрын

My 94 EVO was one of the best engines I have ever had. Not long after I got it new, I put a crane cam and SS E model. Great running bike until I finally gave it up for the 2010 Heritage. Cams are the way to go for sure.

Have you gone back in to re-check tension? Curious if it has loosened up any.

@zmotorsports62

7 жыл бұрын

gsfinatic I have not opened it back up but there should really be no need to. This is no different than the OEM Harley style that has been in use for many years. With a new chain it could stretch and loosen a bit. On a broken in and properly maintained primary it really shouldn't loosen up. Thanks again for watching. Mike

@08StreetGlide

5 жыл бұрын

I have seen where you can go through the Derby cover with a long screwdriver and check the free play.....after I read that and know it is possible.....I am going to install one...was going to go with the Haden....but have realized the Baker is the way to go....

In my opinion, you should ditch the SE compensator and replace it with a Baker Compensator along with the Baker manual chain tensioner. You should go Baker all the way.....the stock primary chain comes way to tight from the factory and wears out the SE or noisy, stock compensator pretty quickly. Also, keep an eye on the cam side Roller Chain Drives, with their PLASTIC cam chain tensioners, which are designed to wear out, and failure to change out the worn cam chain tensioners, will crater the engine, due to metal to metal contact between the hydraulic tensioner and the Roller Chain, and the metal shavings will kill the engine. Also, you should check the pinion shaft max run out while you pull the cam support plate to check or change out the cam chain tensioners. Run out should not exceed, 0.001" or less, if the run out shows, more than that, for example, 0.003", of run out, it shows that the pressed together crankshaft has already twisted out of true, and you are on the way to cratering the engine. Only solution is to tear the engine down, pull the crankshaft assembly and have it balanced, dynamically trued and TIG-weld the Welch Plugs and set the output shaft and pinion shaft to 0.001" or less of max run-out. All Twin Cams run very hot, as evidenced by your rear cylinder heat shield, so, keep the oil changed regularly.......

@zmotorsports62

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. Mike.

@zmotorsports62

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. Mike.

@johnaltmiller1752

6 жыл бұрын

tomcata1467 p

@skymiller530

6 жыл бұрын

tomcata1467 IN OTHER WORDS, Harley is cheap in their design and materials, but STILL expects us to pay the outrageous premium for their product (just for the name).

@jimmyjimjim3054

4 жыл бұрын

So what you're really saying is... Don't buy harley, get a Triumph instead!

esse tensor de ajuste manual tem alguma estria tipo dos tc 88 para segurar ele na posiçao ou é só no aperto da porca auto travante mesmo.

@08StreetGlide

5 жыл бұрын

Translated : this manual torsion adjuster has some kind of tc 88 type to hold it in position or it is only in the tightening of the same self-locking nut..... Answer : Se eu entendi sua pergunta, este novo ajustador instala usando os mesmos furos de montagem do original, usando apenas a porca de travamento automático para ajustar manualmente a tensão. Translated : If I understand your question, this new adjuster installs using the same mount holes as original, only using the self locking nut to manually adjust the tension.

If you remove the inner primary to add the SE. Compensater sprocket. Wile you have it out, why not modify it so you can remove the Rotor if the Stator goes bad. Which they do do once in a wile. Would make that repair a hole lot easier.

Hahahaha!!! that's funny. @08:34 after talking for 8:35 minutes you said you didn't want to bore us on the video by showing how to take of the floor boards and primary cover... but you just stood still and talked for the first 8 minutes of the video.

Shouldnt you adjust the chain on the tightest part of the chain?

@zmotorsports62

Жыл бұрын

You want to take the measurement on the side opposite the tensioner as that is where the stress is. The highest stress point is directly between the drive and driven sprockets in direction of travel when the drive sprocket is pulling directly against the driven sprockets. Hope that makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to watch. Mike

@GHOSTWHOWALKERS

Жыл бұрын

@@zmotorsports62 that's correct but 99% of primary chains have a tight spot which should be opposite the tensioner when doing the measurement. If not that isn't spot will be very tight when it travels across the top.

What does it usually cost to adjust the clutch and or replace a clutch on a 2009 CVO Electra glide screaming eagle package?

@zmotorsports62

3 жыл бұрын

There is no adjustment on the hydraulic clutch setup and not sure how much to replace clutch. You’d have to call your dealership or favorite independent shop for a quote. Thanks for watching. Mike

@steverichens4242

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the reply!

@steverichens4242

3 жыл бұрын

Isn’t it approximately 1 quart of oil for the transmission?

Is there any reason you did all that work instead of using a M6 Spring Loaded Primary Chain Tensioner? You do not have to remove the chain or ever adjust...

@zmotorsports62

6 жыл бұрын

I’m just not a big fan of the spring loaded tensioners. Old habits are hard to brake and when I adjust something I want to know it’s adjusted to the proper spec. Just my OCD I guess. Thanks for watching. Mike

@rickquest6385

6 жыл бұрын

IMO, don't chains expand and don't settings change during heavy downshifting etc? I personally like the idea of "set and forget" and the thought of taking the primary apart does not thrill me, but that's just me. Nice video though...

@zmotorsports62

6 жыл бұрын

To each their own. I just don’t like spring loaded tensioners, after being an industrial maintenance mechanic for 30 years I don’t believe in “set it and forget it” items, but that’s just me. Thanks for watching. Mike

@johnmorton2963

6 жыл бұрын

I had that POS M6 in my 124" Roadking for a few months. I took the primary cover off to change the clutch & found the M6 nylon shoe had broken into about 4 pieces (one piece fell out when I removed the primary cover), this is a well documented problem. I found out later that a friend of mine had the same thing happen & with his the small pieces got behind the rotor & trashed his alternator stator. I have been a Harley wrench for over 40 years. Even though the M6 worked fine in a 2001 Heritage I had, the newer version is absolute junk. I threw it out & installed the attitude adjuster.

@08StreetGlide

5 жыл бұрын

My research shows in a high torque/high compression or even a high rev engine, the M6 shouldn't be consider.....I do not have any practical experience with them, but after my research I'm going with the Baker...if you are a little old lady, the M6 should be just fine though...lol

May I ask, who makes that torque wrench?

@zmotorsports62

7 жыл бұрын

It is a Snap-On 3/8" TechAngle. Great torque wrench. Thanks for viewing. Mike.

@-MrRichBiker1967

5 жыл бұрын

Harbor Freight who gives a f***

Ultra limited 001 in my country Indonesia (Bali)

Why don't you use the Hayden M6? It is a lot easier to install.

@zmotorsports62

7 жыл бұрын

I don't have anything against the Hayden, I just prefer the Baker. Thanks for watching. Mike.

Why in 2017 & 2018 does Harley-Davidson still use a high maintenance chain primary drive system? It’s clear by the redesign of a new motor that gears are better with Harley-Davidson except for the chain primary chain, why they put that system on a new motor who knows. A gear drive primary system is what Harley-Davidson needs to go to and will go to if they want to technology wise survive, and with a gear drive primary they can keep the same primary cover as is for traditional appearance.

@-MrRichBiker1967

5 жыл бұрын

Oh frank...lol

@jimmyjimjim3054

4 жыл бұрын

Manufacturing quality at Harley is terrible. Who uses Roller bearings in this day and age! I wish i never bought my Harley.

Tell me please! What the size clutch hub nut?

@zmotorsports62

5 жыл бұрын

If memory serves it is 1-3/16”. Also remember it is a left-hand thread. Mike

@alexandrsedov7447

5 жыл бұрын

zmotorsports ok! Tell me please, new torx t70 bolt with blue loctite, can I added red loctite? Thanks

@zmotorsports62

5 жыл бұрын

No need to replace the bolt unless the teeth in the T70 head are chewed up, then I would replace. I use a bit of Loctite 262 (Red). Blue (242) would also work. Mike

@alexandrsedov7447

5 жыл бұрын

zmotorsports thank you very much!!

@zmotorsports62

5 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome. Thank you for watching. Mike

Start that HOG what she sound like now???

@zmotorsports62

Жыл бұрын

I'll have to do a quick walk-around and start it while it still resides in my stable as it just went up for sale. Thanks for watching. Mike

And you should never use an impact

Why don't you put the tie wrap on , after the f****** video and show us the tension.. oh my God

All wrong. The right way to adjust chain tension is to have the chain and shoe surface oily VERY OILY, then adjust shoe to about a half inch in the center of the chain on top and then turn your clutch hub until you get the highest slack in the upper center of the chain and THEN adjust to specifications. If you had done just one full turn with that chain with oil on it, more than liey your upper looseness would have increased by a full half inch or more. So you will be running with twice the specs clearance the way you did it. I assure you that you will be running double the slack. Also, you people are making fools of yourself for the thin oil youre using in these cases. 50 to 80 straight weight

i have even better advice, BUY AN EVOLUTION!!!

@jdamedeo

6 жыл бұрын

I agree. My 87 evo does not have any issues

Just get to the fucking point!!!

I want your torque wrenches :P