dude found a loop hole in a sport where you literally drive in a loop

@JakeWorden

5 жыл бұрын

Oh ThAtS FuNnY...MicHaeL!!!$*@%

@since4everrr

5 жыл бұрын

@@JakeWorden roll intro

@Kirost-V

5 жыл бұрын

and he quite literally drove towards the hole part of the loop to execute it

@ralphcolborn6589

4 жыл бұрын

Ha

@Skillbombe

4 жыл бұрын

mirror tape 😂😂😂😂😂

This was recommended to me and I still don’t know what’s going on

@malik87breaker

4 жыл бұрын

Hi. Same here lol

@Slow._.EJ8

4 жыл бұрын

Okay basically the rules are “you have to go through the pit stop before you cross the checkered flag” the thing is, is that he waited to go through the pit stop up until his last lap. What makes it crazy is that his pit stop was 50 yards behind the checkered flag/ finish line. So technically, according to the rules, he did take his pit stop before crossing the checkered flag/line. All while at 45MPH, and 50 yards to go I believe. This strategy was never done up until then. (Correct me if im wrong. Idk much about Nascar)

@ketgala

4 жыл бұрын

very good explanation thanks Tyrese!!!

@Bellaexe5091

4 жыл бұрын

Tyrese Brazell ahhhhh okay now I get it

@KiiroiKodomo

4 жыл бұрын

Same

NASCAR: Pit before the checkered-flag. Jeff Burton: Okay. [Pits 50 yards before checkered flag] Announcers: He did follow the rules...

@HeathNation2465

Жыл бұрын

"Your terms are acceptable."

@burntheobedient4473

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for clarifying that for us.

It's like when they tried to penalize Dale Jarrett for having an engine with the compression above 14. His was 14.2 (I think) and he argued that the rule said 14 not 14.0 so technically he was within the 14 rule. They added the .0 to the rule afterwards.

@kevinjabroni1554

5 жыл бұрын

1 2 Dale Jarrett was always a soulless cheating fuck, not one bit surprised.

@fargoththemoonsugarmaniac

5 жыл бұрын

That doesn't make any sense. 14 is the same thing as 14.0. So it shouldn't have mattered if it said 14 in the first place.

@banaana1234

5 жыл бұрын

@@fargoththemoonsugarmaniac No it is not. When talking about technical stuff, the number of decimals determines the amount of precision expected. 14.2 is the same as 14 when rounded to two significant figures.

@fargoththemoonsugarmaniac

5 жыл бұрын

I see. I still find it stupid since the rule is about the compression not being higher than 14, I'd assume it means that everything under 14 is ok and nothing above it. I get it though. Sneaky beaky.

@banaana1234

5 жыл бұрын

@@fargoththemoonsugarmaniac Yup, it was definitely against the spirit of the rules but technically not forbidden.

Michael Schumacher won the British Grand Prix in 1998 by doing exactly this; took a stop & go penalty on the final lap, his pit was after the start finish line and it was deemed legal.

@kingofrunescapepking

9 жыл бұрын

And FIA immediately changed THAT rule too

@Aunini

9 жыл бұрын

The rule itself stayed the same, the penalty itself was screwed up because the rule hadn't been adhered to; the stop-go penalty was wrong as it was delivered after 31 minutes when the time limit is 25 minutes, the after the race time penalty was also wrong as the incident hadn't occurred within the final 12 laps of the race - they had to rescind the penalty altogether. It didn't help either that by giving it to him with 2 laps to go, they opened the door to this possibility

@DoubleWavedYellows

9 жыл бұрын

Aunini He should have been disqualified though - because he went out of the pit lane after "taking" his penalty, and then did another full lap, before come into the pit lane and parc ferme, thereby crossing the finish line twice after the chequered flag was shown which you aren't allowed to do. The Clerk of the Course at the British GP in '98 lost his FIA License as a result of this monumental balls-up!

@__boomer2__

5 жыл бұрын

@@DoubleWavedYellows what's wrong with crossing the line twice...the race is already over so you're not getting scored anymore

@markmark5269

5 жыл бұрын

The penalty was bogus, as mentioned above, so all points are moot. Great thing about it all is Ferrari would not have won it had they pitted earlier, bogus or not. FIA are still no better today, handing out mid race stop and gos, robs the fans, who they apparently don't give a fuck about.

Its not cheating, its called a creative use of game mechanics lol

@asalad2371

4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@slappygerdenand5122

4 жыл бұрын

But games cause violence and nobody died

@cosmicbro1973

4 жыл бұрын

Slappy Gerdenand facts

@slappygerdenand5122

4 жыл бұрын

Cosmic Bro thank you bro

@RocketRaven

4 жыл бұрын

@@slappygerdenand5122 oh they do die :D of old age. so no matter what, games still kill xD it just tkaes time just like air

Jeff Burton was one of the smartest racers in history. I can't tell you how many races he won by pit strategy, knowing when the rain was coming to stay out when others didn't, saving his equipment and so on. Burton was very good from '98-2004. He's also one of the few broadcasters I can stand listening to.

@justinknust2395

5 жыл бұрын

He was my favorite driver and really had no down years. He was great from 1996 - 2010, and only drove for 2 teams pretty much his whole career. I loved things like this. Outside of his first two years in 1994 and 95, his worst points finish the rest of his career was 20th. That's pretty good for a 18 year span to start and end a career. Very underrated driver.

@sprinkle581

5 жыл бұрын

@@justinknust2395 Dude... I'm a Jeff Burton fan and a Seahawks fan... You're awesome

@jcwebb540

5 жыл бұрын

It was Frankie Stoddard's call, not Burton's.

@Fosh51

5 жыл бұрын

That's why Jeff Burton is known as "The Mayor of NASCAR".

@davidh1249

5 жыл бұрын

Burton was lucky enough to have one of the smartest crew chiefs to ever sit on a pit box during this time in his career in Frankie Stoddard.His unique way of calling a race put Burton in position to win races he would have otherwise lost.Stoddard is a very underrated crew chief,imo.

I’d like to hear the radio in Jimmie’s car during this lol

@94nolo

5 жыл бұрын

He was too busy scheming 7 championships.

@OSRSnChill

5 жыл бұрын

N O L A N M I L N E S I don’t think the guy was trying to talk down about Jimmy, he was just saying it’d be funny to hear what they thought of that move. R E L A X

@packlesswolf1

5 жыл бұрын

@@94nolo fuck JJ

@CountyLineFilms

4 жыл бұрын

I didnt know they had youtube in prison, hey bill

As they would say a year later at Darlington... "HAVE YOU EVER!?" "NO I'VE NEVER!"

@chrishamilton2559

5 жыл бұрын

Ahhh, the days when NASCAR was still relevant,.......

@trashtyler

4 жыл бұрын

Is that the wood ducks??

@TravisMSimpson

4 жыл бұрын

@@trashtyler Yes it is. Just now found your comment. KZread never told me you commented.

As a Burton fan I was so pumped by this. Loved it! I love the moment when the commentators suddenly get the lightbulb moment and realise what's going on haha!

@indoorgrass2537

4 жыл бұрын

Team Bombersports no

Frank Stoddard is a great crew chief. This was genius.

00:45 - THAT MOMENT OF REALIZATION= PRICELESS XD

@xxCrazyEights88xx

6 жыл бұрын

BLUFOX56 Everyone realized it except Darrel lmao

@CantingWall3286

3 жыл бұрын

0:45

Utter genius. Only person out there to read the letter of the rules...

For those unaware of what happened, here’s the rundown. In the Winston, commonly referred to now as the All Star Race, required you to pit for four tires once during the segment. Pit strategy can ruin your day if you don’t play your cards well. He pitted on the final lap so he wouldn’t have to go far to finish the segment, and also so that he wasn’t snookered by pit strategy. Truly a huge loophole he exploited well.

@ddd1hhh

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

When you have the commentators questioning whether or not they missed something, that's when you know you're really smart.

Couldn't do this now.... there is a "debris" caution every 7 laps.

@needsmetal

8 жыл бұрын

+Redd Berendes more like 3

@patrickperry8951

5 жыл бұрын

Plus they made a rule against it

@Steventhe2nd

5 жыл бұрын

and drivers not knowing how to drive properly

@Vade4545

5 жыл бұрын

That’s why I stopped watching

@matthewb7049

5 жыл бұрын

Nascar is lame. Rally is where its at. Its like the difference between WWE and ufc. Wwe being nascar. Ufc being rally. Real, pure racing (with right hand turns) dirt roads. Rain or shine. No fucking "drying the track off" or stopping the race for hours because of rain. Nascar is for pussies

Just to clarify, it was Burton's crew chief Frank Stoddard that came up with the idea, not Burton himself.

That is the most genius moment in nascar pit history

@AEMoreira81

5 жыл бұрын

So genius, it got outlawed afterwards!

@KitsuneGB-hc9zb

2 жыл бұрын

“Wait, you can’t do that!” “Yes we can!” “Not anymore!”

The most genius move ever in NASCAR. Jeff Burton and Frankie Stoddard were two of the smartest guys back in the day. They were magic together and won a lot of races together in a short time. They won New Hampshire a lot and one race led every lap there.

@kuromori6200

Жыл бұрын

A real shame they never won a Championship together.

This isnt new Ferrari exploited the start finish/pitbox rule back in 1998 when Schumacher had a stop go penalty and came in on the last lap but crossed the line to finish before they reached the pit box - rules got changed afterwards

@matthewsylvester3175

4 жыл бұрын

Dave McKeegan well yeah, but this is nascar.

@Wreckless229

4 жыл бұрын

No shit it ain’t new this is from 2002.

I never understood the idea at the time, but after seeing it a while, that was pretty genius.

I love the moment when they figure out what's happening.

I remember this! Being a Burton fan I digged this so much. Awesome work.

somebody was watching the 98 silverstone grand prix

Sum it up. Pit stop was before the finish line. Everyone needs one pit stop. He waited till last lap took pit stop and finished race in pitstop lane

I love when they have that OMG moment when they all figure out whats happening

You can feel the moment at 0:36 when it hits the commentators and they realize how genius this move is.

Frank Stoddard, you my friend are a genius.

Genius just a plain and simple, genius. Shows how smart crew chiefs are.

I remember this, classic NASCAR ingenuity at work; thanks for posting it.

That's using your head...

I miss these days, people finding loopholes like that means it's a race you'll never forget-we never forgot this one!

Didn't they change this rule after this race so that the pits closed with 2 to go in the segment? And they only used this format for a couple more years anyways.

@doomusrlc

5 жыл бұрын

Nick Eggleston yes, for 2003 they changed the rule specifically because of this instance

@devinaschenbrenner2683

5 жыл бұрын

Leave it to NASCAR to have a driver do something interesting amd legal and be like, nope. We dont like drivers who gamble.

@ShadowLimited310

5 жыл бұрын

@@devinaschenbrenner2683 it's not a gamble it's a exploit, it's a smart as hell exploit but a exploit nevertheless

@Aunini

4 жыл бұрын

It's also an exploit that only half the grid could use, so it was cool, but an understandable closing

Jeff: pits before checkered flag NASCAR:wait DW, Mike Joy, and Larry Mac: I MEAN

The moment they all realize is amazing

Such a slow stop compared to today's pit stops.

@alexsupertramp4907

5 жыл бұрын

Says the guy from 7 years ago

@MrJaybeezy123

Жыл бұрын

​@@alexsupertramp4907 says the guy from 3 years ago

So is this why when they introduced stages in normal races, they made it to where pit road closes at 2 laps to go before each stage end?

@Dat-Mudkip

5 жыл бұрын

I think this would be an indirect result of that...

@Bookiemouncher

4 жыл бұрын

Dat-Mudkip it’s a direct result because they made the new rule right after this race.

@zacharygossett3846

4 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@justinkrizenesky

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bookiemouncher no they didn't lol. Those rules were just for the all star for 15 years after this. He specifically says normal races.

@Bookiemouncher

3 жыл бұрын

Justin Krizenesky it was a joke 😂

0:27 and the following 15ish seconds, I love it haha

I remember this race, so glad for Jeff.

That was just about the coolest thing ever. Too bad they changed the rules as a result...

They probably realised that pretty much everyone who had a pit box behind the S/F line would have done this the following year...it was one of those things that could only have been done once I guess. I loved this so much, too bad he had clutch problems.

If it wasn't for the slipping clutch, Jeff Burton would've been a real contender in the 2002 Winston All Star Race. But still a brilliant move by him and his crew since his pit box was BEFORE the start/finish line.

5:07-5:14 that's a nice view of the engine all the details etc

Jeff Burton: I'm gonna do what's called a pro gamer move

This was a crazily brilliant move

This was absolutely genius.

OH MY GOD!!! CLASSIC

Rather be a rule maker than a rule breaker.

That's amazing!

Reminiscent of Michael at Silverstone in '98.

Legendary....I love it.

Brilliant.

Haha I remember when I was about 11 years old I did this in the all star race in one of the nascar games for the xbox. I didn't know what I was doing all I knew that it won me the race everytime lmao. Now that I'm older I understand this is amazing, and I fully understand why now :P

@justinkrizenesky

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately you are lying. In every nascar game, you are placed in the 4th pit box.

new hampshire, love to hear it

i remember that, that was the most smart ballsy move ive seen in a while

@brianbooher2286

5 жыл бұрын

It was a smart move I don't know about Ball Z it was considering he didn't do nothing but roll off Pit Road

Thanks KZread algorithm. Video is 10/10 would recommend.

Someone was watching the 1998 British GP

Nobody: KZread algorithm:

That is a brilliant move.

Good ole' Frankie Stoddard pulled an old Smokey Yunick/Junior Johnson call. Lets look at the loophole/gray area and see what we can do before the start of the race (or building the car). It isn't illegal per the rules, well yeah we are going to do that, spirit of the rules may prohibit but the letter of the rules, well yeah it isn't prohibited. Years later this is why they close pit road before the final lap in the stage racing format.

For those of you who dont nascar like me: Pit stop is right before finish line. You are required to go through it before end of race. Everybody else did it earlier. It results in 24 second loss in this case. One driver did it at the very end of the last lap. He would not be able back up to speed before crossing, finish was too close. This skips all that time everybody else had to waste getting back up to full speed.

Brilliant

It's about , what's NOT in the rulebook. 👍

...What's with the fireworks? It was only segment 1... smart move by Burton and his crew.

that's absolute genius

pure genius....!!

Wheres my reccomended in 2019 gang at

This is either crazy or brilliant! Best line in this video haha

@stampede122

5 жыл бұрын

Quentin Diaz why not both?

Another day in why was this in my recommend but i still watched it anyway

It's been 10 years, why is it in my recommended section?

@ericstevens8138

4 жыл бұрын

H388KK idk I looked up nascar wrecks last week and now this is here

This is your daily dose of Recommendation Take advantages

The Frankie Stoddard rule.

Burton is the smartest man on the track today.

@KSE828 True, but also, you have to think about the spirit of the rules. Yeah, the rules set up for this Winston was good (takes the crew into account), but I don't think anticipated doing something like that. Kinda not fair in a way for those who had certain pit selections, but it was brilliant thinking on Stoddard's part. Imagine if this was the rules though to the All-Star race today, and Jimmie Johnson did this though. Everybody would bitch that its more "proof" that NASCAR loves Jimmie

This was back when NASCAR was exciting. Now it seems its just bla, debris every dozen laps or so, dale jr never lived up to his daddys name, then quit to play safe behind a microphone. Most of the real deal guys have gone, Wallace, Rudd, Martin, Allison, and so on.

@rubyestes6804

4 жыл бұрын

I really hope you aren't implying that jr retiring Because of his injuries is a bad thing

@NKBlazer

4 жыл бұрын

@@rubyestes6804 My thoughts exactly. Watching his dad lose his life to the sport, then continuing on through dangerous moments of his own. How can anyone blame him for retiring safely with his family at this point?

@zacharygossett3846

4 жыл бұрын

You guys are also forgetting the drama that forced to leave his Dads team and go to Hendricks. Jr had a lot of adversity to overcome. And he did the best he could despite all that happened in his personal life. Jr had a tough shake. And he remained humble and graceful through all of it.

@FF5754

4 жыл бұрын

@@zacharygossett3846 well, maybe so yes but, it just would have been really cool if he became the new intimidator. Ya know, the new man in black. Or even better, have jr drive a new wrangler car!

@zacharygossett3846

4 жыл бұрын

@@FF5754 would have been nice. But i think the drama that made him leave the team involved Srs wife.

I have a new strategy in iRacing. We do not have this rule in ANY iRacing official series and my league doesn't have this rule either

@ianlehman8342

5 жыл бұрын

Pulling a surprise pit finish on your opponents should really mess with someone. Just make sure you have the gap to stay ahead

This is the reason why pits are closed 2 laps before stage end

How would they not think of anyone doing this before hand lol

@n0body550

5 жыл бұрын

illlanoize23 Sportsmanship probably

@n0body550

5 жыл бұрын

illlanoize23 An ethical decision that wasn’t unethical because there were no rules against it but knowing full well it will only be wrong once they do it

1:27 sauter just calmly sh*ts on top of the box

That’s iconic

5D Chess right here.

Thanks KZread recommended

1:27 calmly shits on top of the box xd

You can actually see the loophole from the nosebleed seats.

Drop off my car at the shop for a tune up 3 days later its ready. Pit crew fixed transmission in 8 minutes.

Ah now this was why they now close the pits with 2 to go before each stage end

@gcham

5 жыл бұрын

Fish Productions I kinda wish they didn’t close pit road

Nas Car: drives in a circle Announcers: I thought he was gonna stop driving in a circle this time. What is he doing?! Nas Car: drives in a circle Announcers: My god, he's going to stop driving in a circle next time! Nas Car: stops driving in a circle Announcers: GENIUS!

@personofthefield

4 жыл бұрын

Okay he ro cli x0 rz

@cosmicbro1973

4 жыл бұрын

facts idk why people saying this is genius looks like a very simple concept to me, he stopped right before the finish line so he could just roll out and finish, why didn’t everyone do that? I would have thought about it for sure

@the_original_Bilb_Ono

4 жыл бұрын

@@cosmicbro1973 you people are so cringey. Y'all honestly think that you could do this don't you? It's not "genius" in the sense of it requiring intellectual power, rather it's a "sneaky move" that was at the perfect moment. Think of how a boxer may pull off a rebound and KO strike, on the spot. These guys are cornering around 200mph. It's not even close to as simple as you make it. All of this is from a guy who admittedly hasn't watched a NASCAR race in around 10 years. It's just not the same. I never cared for US football but It would be very ignorant to say in a sarcastic manner "oh wow dude throws the ball and runs across the field big deal" or "OMG I can't believe he threw the ball to one guy but another guy on the other team caught it!" This sport is a very passionate thing to the people of the south since we are often mocked ridiculed and treated like we are second class Americans. NASCAR is built into the modern southern culture.

@cosmicbro1973

4 жыл бұрын

Bilb Ono Im from the south, it’s not built into the culture AT ALL and it’s definitely not a top 3 “sport” people watch here. I literally only know one person out of all the dad’s and grandpa’s of my friends and family that watches it. 1.

@the_original_Bilb_Ono

4 жыл бұрын

@@cosmicbro1973 cool antidotes you have there. Too bad you're wrong, out of the entire earth the south east USA has the most NASCAR viewers every year. And I dont know how old you are but NASCAR IS apart of southern culture, it was formed in the south east usa, it's most famous drivers was from the south east or Midwest. You are just flat out wrong there buddy. Yes the viewership of NASCAR has drastically declined each year since the early 2000s. Yes, most fans are the older generation. But all of this is besides the point. The black 3 baseball cap or jacket Is nearly synonymous with the south. Just because you dont know many NASCAR fans doesnt mean it's representative of all of the usa. If you don't believe me I can pull up countless links to back this up with insane statistics of which regions buy the most tickets/tune in on tv. Also a sizable portion of Mexican-americans like NASCAR alot too, but no where near the number of white southern Americans.

ya, but this year was probably my All-star race so far...so even though there were a few dry years, they did something right this year.

And then 15 years later, NASCAR'S attempt to patch this loophole helps costs everyone.

200 IQ move

When this race happened, I told my dad and brother I would do this... I don't get paid enough

Jeff Burton is one fucking smart driver

3:22 North Haverhill NH About a 5 minute drive from my house.

Jeff Burtons Crew Chief is the Spiffing Brit, haha😁

I don’t understand what happen? Was he far behind and took a short cut or did he gain ground on others while everyone pitted earlier and he pitted in the last lap and crossed the line on pit lane?

@morgfarm1

5 жыл бұрын

Everyone else had already been in for service and he hadn't been, so his lead was 100% because of that. Like he said, if the clutch wasn't failing he had the speed to win that heat that day. I dont recall what became of the race itself though

@justinkrizenesky

3 жыл бұрын

@@morgfarm1 Newman won after Jr didn't spin him.

Crafty!

So the American Version Of Silverstone 98

So Jimmy won? That’s all that matters. I was thinking jimmy was going to lose! Over a decade old race, but I’m still stoked for that win!

@stephenholloway6893

4 жыл бұрын

Jimmie won the segment but not the overall race. That went to Ryan Newman.

Smokey yunick was the best at finding loop holes in any rule book

One of my favorite moments ever in nascar I miss that nascar this new thing they have going on isn’t working for me anymore