Sir I wanna Thank you for your time and knowledge they don’t make Good men like You no more appreciate the help

@johntube2525

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the very kind words. Sorry I took so long to show what I ultimately did to fix the problem. I just wanted people to know, how many things we tried before finally fixing the problem, just in case they have been going through the same process. Thanks!

My 2002 silverado was having gauge issues. Running a fresh ground for A8 alone did not resolve my problems, but when I ran a fresh battery positive constant for A9 (because my voltage there was clocking in at like 0.43 volts), everything came to life. My symptoms were a non-functioning tach, PRND/odo display, and coolant temp gauge. Once I ran the new A9 wire, all of those began working. Hope this helps others, electrical problems can be a real pain. You can also check the wiring underneath your fuse box in the engine bay, sometimes mice can chew those wires up without you realizing it and you have to remove a lot to get to that wiring. Thank you for posting this video, it was immensely helpful. The people leaving negative comments are just frustrated that this solution did not work for them and they need to keep looking for whatever their problem is.

@johntube2525

Ай бұрын

Thank you for a great comment! Thank you for explaining your symptoms and how you ultimately fixed the problem. Great comment! When I am watching other people’s videos, I try my best to go thru the comments, because there can be really good information sort of hidden there. Just like yours! Thanks for watching and thanks for sharing your experience.

Should have a class action lawsuit cause it seems thousands of people have experienced this issue and GM should fix

Wow I'll be darn Sir thank you very much I believe you may have helped me with idea of how to solve my cluster issue on 1990 gmc.. I know they different yet... they all the same in a way I believe some sort of ground issue too. But now I see how to run hot wire to my cluster THANK YOU SOOO MUCH your a Genius Sir 🤗💛🙏🏽

Thank you very much for ur video it was really helpful fixed my problem that I've had for 6 months also.

Best video hands down. I have been through three gauge clusters!! And hours of pulling my f’n hair out! My problem was a8 ground. Boom problem fixed now I have two gauge clusters that work I do t need!

@johntube2525

Жыл бұрын

So glad you found your ground problem and the video helped. Believe me, my son and I both know about the hair pulling, but it really feels good once the problem is solved! Good job!

Your video gave me a good base to start from. My trouble turned out to be the connector itself. The ground pin apparently was intermittent. The 2 rows have a "comb" device that I assume keeps the female pins in contact with the male portion of the connector. I took them out and CAREFULLY reformed a curve to them. Intermittency gone! But hey, all my solder joints are now perfect!

@johntube2525

3 жыл бұрын

Good job, glad you got it fixed and made your comment. I always try to read comments, because there can be a lot of good information in the comments. Hopefully your comment will help someone. Good Job!

Pin A8 is the black and white wire ground that runs from the cluster to the back of the engine. It seems to be the wire at fault for everyone who has a 1999 to 2000 Chevrolet or GMC. Thanks for the video!! 👍

@jankycustoms6089

10 ай бұрын

How did you fix it

@ZBrink11

10 ай бұрын

@@jankycustoms6089 I cut the A8 black and white wire coming off the cluster and grounded it to a metal section of the dash.

@victorgutierrez5826

5 ай бұрын

@@ZBrink11 I thought I had the same problem with my cluster ( no move gauges and don't turn on ) I asked you if you cut the (black and white) wire as you stated, you don't think the ground wire is taking others wires connected in the back with that wire or is the wire alone and just connected to the motor?

@ZBrink11

5 ай бұрын

@@victorgutierrez5826 I didn't cut the black and white wire, I removed some of the sheath and soldered an additional ground wire to it that I ran to a metal part of the dash.

Wow. I a. Going to try this ASAP. None of the guys that repair these clusters even suggest to do this first which they should. They just show how they solder the intricate stuff inside the cluster. Of course most people don’t want to do that or can’t so they send the cluster off to them to repair. I tried soldering a few places inside myself and made a horrible mess. It was exciting for a few starts because it seemed to work. Then it stopped working again entirely. I really hope it’s the black and white ground. Thanks!

@johntube2525

3 жыл бұрын

I will keep my fingers crossed for ya! My twenty year old garage door quit working awhile back and I did solder some bad looking solder joints on the circuit board and it did work. Still working today. I show in that video what a bad solder joint looks like. I almost bought a brand new one, but read some reviews on them that said they wished they had just repaired their old one. So I gave it a try and it worked. Good luck! I hope it is just a bad ground.

Thank you, this helps me alot with my 2002 Silverado. Good Video 👍

Nice video gonna try this on my 2002 tahoe. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

@johntube2525

Жыл бұрын

I hope all you have is a ground wire problem like we did. Best way to test your new ground is to check with either a test light or multimeter and see if you get 12 volts DC or the test light comes on when you go to the positive side of the battery. Once you know you have a good ground with this simple test, then back probe your new ground wire into the black and white wire at the wiring harness and hopefully your instrument cluster starts working again. Thanks for watching and commenting. Good luck!

I did exactly what you did and it worked perfectly on my 2001 GMC Yukon XL! Thank you so much 🙌🏻

@johntube2525

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah! Congratulation! I know how good that feels! Glad the video helped you out.

Sir you just made a great video, i never stop learning on this field, i was working on a 2000 tahoe and had this same issue, bad ground, thank you for taking the time to post that video, it helped a lot. My problem was G117 on top rear right side of engine by the intake manifold and cylinder head, theres a bolt with two black wires, one of the was damage.

@johntube2525

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. It is good to hear that my video did help someone. KZread is a treasure for DIY fixes of all kinds. Love it!

Had a similar problem on my 98 chevy. The positive wire coming from the battery was the problem. The exhaust burned a hole in the wire that did not go all the way through. But caused the engine to become positively charged or something like that. I would probably not have figured it out if it weren't for a guy who helped me off the road.

Great video, thank you!

Saw another video where a guy spliced into A8 , so I did the same thing and ran the ground to my battery. So far it works , that A8 wire runs to the junction box then to behind the motor (103). On my 2002 the bolts horizontal on the back and hard to get too. So anyone who doesn’t want to deal with that bolt just splice a new ground into A8 . Also the cluster on 99-2002 are not the issue it’s the 2003-2007 that have issued

@johntube2525

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and letting us know how you solved your similar issue, which was providing a good ground to A8.

@chachifeere

2 жыл бұрын

@@johntube2525 thanks I’ve been dealing with this for a year. And noticed I watched your video a long time ago. But didn’t realize you did the same thing as this other guy until now lol. I was kinda nervous about unbolting the 103 ground on the back of the motor and not being able to get it back on.

Thank you sir ! You saved me ! 5min fix thanks to your dedication! And I had had faulty cluster for 6months

@johntube2525

Жыл бұрын

I think I know the exact feelings you are going thru, because I was so happy after all the things we had unsuccessfully tried, we finally had working instrument clusters. Thanks for watching and thanks for letting me know the video helped! Have beer and good job!

This helped tremendously!! The A8 ground wire was lose.

@johntube2525

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for taking the time to let me know the video helped you fix the problem. When I am successful in fixing something, I say to myself, I should have made a video of that and I have made a few after the fact, but they kind of lack that hands on appeal. Anyways, thanks for sharing your experience and commenting!

Great this worked on mine thanks alot buddy 👍🏼👍🏼

@johntube2525

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for letting me know the video helped. Once I actually fixed the problem, I was thinking that seemed so simple, now that it is finally fixed. Maybe others have the same hard to find problem, so I made the video hoping it might help someone. Glad it helped. Thanks for the comment.

Damn it looks like Freddy and Jason had a fight on those seats lol

@johntube2525

Жыл бұрын

LOL! it sure does!

@alphasaiyan5760

Жыл бұрын

@@johntube2525 lol I just fixed my gauges. I installed a (new to me) set of SS gauges in my 04 Silverado a couple months ago. Haven’t had any trouble out of them. Took it in for inspection today and wouldn’t you know they started acting up. Battery light staying on. No oil pressure , voltage , fuel , or temp. Speedo and tach worked. Abs light on. Took the knee panel off and whoever installed the security system had a rats nest of wires with the joints just twisted together with electrical tape on them. Turns out one of them was the ground to the cluster wasn’t making a good connection. So I fixed that shit lol. Came across your video and watched it first. 👍

@johntube2525

Жыл бұрын

@@alphasaiyan5760 Good detective work! Glad you found the problem. If nothing else, my video shows an easy way to check if the cluster is not being grounded properly. Simply find a place to ground a new wire, check it is a good new ground by test light or meter to positive side of battery. If good new ground wire, back probe that good new ground wire into the black and white wire on the cluster wiring harness. See if cluster works. If it does make a good splice, so it will hold up to rough roads and vibrations. I guess the new ground wire could be to the OBD2 black and white wire like you said before, but I would always check to make sure it is a good new ground wire by going to the positive side of the battery with test light or meter. Good comment and thanks for watching and commenting!

vary good info thank so much, you helped me fix mine, with this test. i found out my A4 was not getting any juice, so i ran 12v key on power to A4 wire now everything works agian. thank you again

@johntube2525

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment and glad the video helped you. When I do a You Tube search for whatever problem I am having. I always try to read all the comments, because there can be some really good additional information hidden in those comments. That is why I am glad you made your comment as it may help someone else with a similar problem.

@chrisharris3807

3 жыл бұрын

Where do find you the letter/number designation for each wire? For example A8, A4 etc... Very helpful video, thank you. I have had similar problems for over a year. The cluster would lose power, and the needles would jump around, and then it would fine for a while. Now it has got to the point to where almost everything doesn’t work. Hopefully armed with this knowledge I can get it figured out.

@chrisharris3807

3 жыл бұрын

Never mind I found the numbers🙄. 🤪

@darrylm79

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisharris3807 Well, don't keep it a secret!! Tell us where you found them. I need to look for them too. Haha

@Clean-N-ShineInDfw

Жыл бұрын

Can you share where the A4 wire is located?

Your a good dad!

thank you for your help

@johntube2525

4 жыл бұрын

You are welcome! Thank you for the comment! I am glad the video might have helped someone. We just found a bad ground wire on my son’s Saturn Ion. Once we spliced a new, know good ground wire to the original black ground wire at the connector to the push button power window switch located on the driver’s door, both his driver and passenger side power windows started to work again and the lock and unlock button on the driver’s side door started working again. I made a video of that in hopes of helping someone. If you are interested in another ground wire fix, the video link to that fix is kzread.info/dash/bejne/lGyaq857gbOxgKg.html I am so grateful to all of the helpful persons out there, willing to share their expertise and knowledge with us. For every problem we have, my first idea is; Let us look on KZread and see if we can get started in a good way. Thank you all, for sharing!

Appreciate the video!

@johntube2525

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and I really appreciate the kind comment.

A8 fix on 12:15 then you're done works great .............

good job!

@johntube2525

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting!

Thank you for shearing your tip...don't delete the video as you said the video could be helpful information for others also I ask you where you get the information for the voltages? could be nice if you shared the link for that page.

@johntube2525

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words Victor! Comments like yours help make a somewhat lousy day feel a whole lot better. Thru hard work and perseverance, we can make it thru almost anything. I hope you have a great day!

Good video but you could’ve done the same thing at the back of the obd2 connector with black with white stripe wire Splice a ground to that wire and you’re good.

Thanks, I am having an intermittent thing where my entire gauge cluster (2006 GMC SIerra) becomes dead for a while, then it starts working again as I drive. WIll try your fix tomorrow.

@thurgoodstubbs9670

3 жыл бұрын

How did it go? Did you fix the issue?

@fastacker2

3 жыл бұрын

@@thurgoodstubbs9670 ALl fixed now. It wasn't the connector. I redid most of the solder joints on the board. Bought a decent quality soldering iron, fine solder wire, some very good Kester liquid no clean flux. watched several videos of other people doing the same resolder work, and it wasn't that difficult, but I tried very hard to duplicate soldering techniques of the pro I watched. It seems all the GM vehicles of that era had faulty solder joints on the instrument cluster. If it didn't go bad yet, it will at some point. It also helps to have one of those big lighted stand magnifiers or even a 50X soldering microscope. Some of the surface mount components are very small. This was really an introduction for me to the world of circuit boards. I figured it would not cost any more to buy my own stuff and learn to repair it myself, than it would be to pay someone else to do it. I went overboard and also bought a few other things to where I could probably open a business repairing circuit boards (microscope, power desoldering tool, benchtop regulated power supply, one of those nice blue silicon work mats, the pure isopropyl alcohol to clean the flux with, new stepper motors and dash LED lights. If anyone in the Houston area needs their board fixed, I would be happy to fix it for a small fee. I just could not wrap my head around mailing my cluster to someone, then waiting a week or whatever for it to come back in the mail.

@fastacker2

3 жыл бұрын

This is the guy's channel that I watched the most to learn how to fix it. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oISFvLinocvLYKQ.html He has a business repairing boards. Thanks for checking back with me.

@nathanielmoore5677

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you have the same issue I do…it’s random and unpredictable but all of a sudden the whole cluster crashes, mid trip, and then it will all randomly jump back to life. Sometimes it happens once a year sometimes twice in a week, but it always comes back. Did you find specific areas that were causing yours?

@fastacker2

2 жыл бұрын

@@nathanielmoore5677 I have an idea that it was one of the soldered joints on the pin connector. Because the entire board would go dead, I figure it was loss of a primary hot or ground. I didn't have my microscope when I fixed mine, so I took a blanket repair approach. The dozen or so pin connectors have a clear brittle lacquer coating on them that must be removed before resoldering the pins. a couple minutes poking the brittle coating with a metal pick broke all the coating off. Then I added the rosen flux, got the new fancy soldering iron up to temperature and heated each solder joint till it flowed, then added a touch more solder (using fine solder wire). Then I redid the surface mount resistors and capacitors on the board as well. I was nervous, since this was the first time I had tried something like this, and I was rather surprised when it worked perfectly when I put it back in the dash. LIke I said, there are youtube videos showing what and how to solder on the board. That Jeff Cortex guy routinely resolders all the resisters I think. FOr whatever reason, he does not seem to resolder the main connector pins, but I believe that is where mine failed. The failures he fixes are never an entire board outage that I have seen. Usually more specific to a bad gauge or bad info center or an unlit odometer and PRNDL. Even if some of the joints are working now, they will likely fail later. So I resoldered most everything that looked easy to do. The whole repair only took about 15 -20 minutes. GM for whatever reason completely botched the soldering on these things. A couple years supposedly had a recall on them as well, so if you don't want to attempt the fix yourself, the dealer might fix it. But they will simply install a replacement board. Good luck.

Wish you would get to the fix

Hi I’m having a problem with my cluster. My odometer and speedometer are not working. I swapped out cluster like you did and it works in other vehicle

@johntube2525

3 жыл бұрын

I am sorry Omar, I somehow missed your question 8 months ago. Hope you fixed it. If not, it is pretty easy with a short piece of wire to create a ground like we did and put the other end into the back of the wiring harness where your ground is, like a back probe, We had two grounds one was a black wire and the other was a black and white wire. The Black and white wire, in our case was the problem. Once we had the ground wire, back probe in place everything worked. Just make sure you have a good ground, before doing this test. If that does not resolve the problem, and you still have access to the other vehicle your cluster worked in, I would unplug the wiring harness from the cluster and then do some front probing. Use a known good ground for the common or ground wire on your voltage meter and then check the voltage reading at the other locations on your wiring harness with key on. Like we did in our video. Write each one down. Then do the same on your vehicle where the cluster doesn’t work and compare to see which ones are substantially different. This should lead you to where the problem is. Sorry I am just now seeing your question. Good luck!

Can you make a video on how you did the voltage part using the multimeter?

@johntube2525

Жыл бұрын

I do not remember where I got mine, but here is a link to the type of pin test probes we used. www.amazon.com/OIIKI-Non-Destructive-Insulation-Stainless-Multimeter/dp/B08GZ1VGZ4/ref=rvi_sccl_1/140-6459434-2035507?pd_rd_w=JJvp6&content-id=amzn1.sym.f5690a4d-f2bb-45d9-9d1b-736fee412437&pf_rd_p=f5690a4d-f2bb-45d9-9d1b-736fee412437&pf_rd_r=WAG6K8GXG855FD5Y93R1&pd_rd_wg=9muoj&pd_rd_r=6111cd37-37e3-48f9-a3cd-06ebccdf9ef8&pd_rd_i=B08GZ1VGZ4&psc=1 You can probably find locally or on eBay. Once you take out the 4 screws holding the cluster in place, then slowly and carefully tilt the cluster so the top and wiring harness is visible. Depress the locking tab on the harness and we used a flat blade screw driver to pry one side then the other while pushing the locking tab. Once the wiring harness is disconnected from the instrument cluster, completely remove the instrument cluster to get it out of the way. Then you will just be looking at the face of the wiring harness. Then with these pin type test probes, you can use the black test probe for your A6 ground location, which is the Black wire, and then use the red probe to check each location with your multimeter with the key on. I wrote each DC voltage down. Then we checked each location again, but used A8 as the ground location, A8 is the Black and White wire. Pretty easy to do, no need for another video. I suppose you could also check the two ground wires with the key off, using the continuity function, put the black into the A8 location and take the red to a known good ground like the metal I show on the video and see if you get continuity from the A8 location to the known good ground. If no continuity to a known good ground then you obviously have a bad ground. Be sure the key is off or no electrical current when doing any continuity test. My son finally graduated from college, got a good paying job and sold the 2000 Suburban. I told him it would have been better to just fix things as they wear out, but he said, “No more, I would rather make car payments for the next 6 years than do anymore work on that old Suburban!” So, 2000 Suburban gone! Thanks for watching and good luck! I bought a used cluster on eBay for $60, which had a badly broken Plexiglas cover. It worked fine in my 2001 Silverado and also worked in his 2000 Suburban once we fixed the ground wire at A8. Let me know if you want to buy that extra cluster for $60 plus shipping. I have meant to list it on eBay but never have. I hope you just have a bad ground which is pretty easy to fix. Good Luck!

I was putting in a new radio and the gauges just stopped working is it possible I just blew a fuse?

@johntube2525

4 жыл бұрын

I guess you might have blown a fuse. If you have a meter with probes, you could check fuses with the meter on continuity. With the key off, you do not have to pull the fuses to make a visual check. You can put your probe on the little knobs on the top of the fuse. Each fuse has two and you should get continuity across the two knobs. If no continuity, most likely, it is blown or you just did not have the probes solidly on the two little knobs. If no continuity, you will need to pull the fuse for a visual check to see if it is indeed blown. There are some KZread videos on this meter method of checking fuses. Just do a search for checking vehicle fuses with a meter or something along that line.

Having a "known good" part to replace the "know bad" part. And the trouble staying at the "known bad" vehicle is a trouble shooting skill that is uncommon now a days. Except in logical thinking people. And you sir trouble shot that dash very logically.

@johntube2525

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. Yes, it really helped to finally find out the dash for a 2001 Silverado could be interchangeable in a 2000 Suburban. Really helped to know it was not a bad dash, but a problem somewhere else. Then finally find the ground wire problem and the fix turned out to be so easy after that after much hair pulling. LOL!

@gregkilgore4035

Жыл бұрын

@@johntube2525 I've got a 2001 GMC Sierra with intermittent issue with gauges not working (fuel, volts, and some idiot lights). I cleaned some grounds, dielectric grease reseated and it helped for 6 months. But starting to happen again. So adding another ground to the A8 pin and see what happens. Thanks for the video.

Hey did the message board on the cluster still work when all the gauges were dead ? Just trying to compare my problem to yours

@johntube2525

2 жыл бұрын

It was my son’s suburban and we only worked on it when he would come 20 miles out in the country to my house. I am sorry to tell you, I just do not remember for sure. To the best of my recollection, I do not think anything worked. I am sorry, I am not 100 percent sure about that. My son has a good job now and he bought a new vehicle and said he was going to sell the old Suburban. After we fixed the cluster, the mileage turned over 300,000 miles. They said, when the cluster would work on start up, but then stop working when they drove a short distance, they noticed the same mileage every time. Apparently, it was not picking up the miles driven when it was not working. I hope this help, but probably not, since I am not 100 percent sure about it.

@johntube2525

2 жыл бұрын

I just remembered, someone commented that they did something similar to my video but what they did was easier. They simply put a jumper wire from A6 to A8 and found out that also made their cluster work. A6 is a black ground wire and A8 is a black and white ground wire. I think I commented back I would rather make sure I had a good ground first before trying it as a new ground on A8. But this is a really quick way to see if you have a problem at A8. The only problem I see with this method is, you will be assuming A6 is a good ground, rather than making sure, you have a good ground to try at A8. Hope this helps as it is relatively easy to check your grounds.

Good job thanks, i wonder if relocating the ground at the back of the motor would be a fix also. As my goround is saturated in old grease? I will report back if that fixes my truck.

@johntube2525

5 ай бұрын

If that wire is black and white, and eventually connects at A8 on your wiring harness then that most likely is your problem. The harness that plugs into the back of the instrument cluster is labeled A1 thru A12 and B1 thru B12. On our 2000 suburban and 2001 Silverado the A6 and A8 are the ground wires. A6 is solid black and A8 is black and white. I think the black and white wire is supposed to terminate at the back of the motor to provide the needed ground. I could never prove this, because I could not even get my hand back there to check. However once I found a good grounding point inside the dash on the Suburban and I attached a wire to that grounding point. I then checked it, to make sure it was a good ground by measuring around 12 volts on my meter by taking a long wire all the way to the positive side of the battery. Once I knew I had a good grounding point I took the other end of the wire up to A8 on the wiring harness and back probed it into A8. I then tried turning the key and the instrument cluster worked. Conclusion: We had a bad ground at A8. I think the wire going to the back of the motor, which was supposed to be black and white, was our problem, however I never confirmed this. The back probe into the back of the harness worked fine to make our cluster work again, but a better connection like a wire splice would be better. Good luck!

@lonniesanchez2732

5 ай бұрын

@@johntube2525 that's what I'm thinking, I will report back.

@lonniesanchez2732

5 ай бұрын

Well i extended the black and white ground wire to the front of the passenger side cylinder head and same thing no cluster action, oh well Looks like I will need to check the big connector at the cluster.

@johntube2525

5 ай бұрын

@@lonniesanchez2732 I feel for you! We spent lots and lots of time trying to figure out what was wrong. We almost bought a refurbished cluster until we found out my working 2001 Silverado cluster would not work in his 2000 Suburban and his 2000 Suburban cluster WOULD WORK in my Silverado. So that meant both clusters worked fine in my Silverado and there was probably a wiring problem in the Suburban. My son wanted to try that 1st, but I was reluctant, because I was afraid we would ruin my good working 2001 Silverado cluster by putting it in his 2000 Suburban. We could have saved ourselves a lot of misery had we tried that right away. I am sure you will eventually solve the problem. Good Luck!

@lonniesanchez2732

5 ай бұрын

@@johntube2525 I have a spare cluster I will toss in there I will also report back. Thanks John

The issue I'm having is my fuel, coolant temp gauge, and odometer display didnt work, so I replaced cluster, but having the exact same issue, the display only works in ACC mode, but not ON, I must have a bad ground somewhere also

@johntube2525

3 жыл бұрын

It is pretty easy to check if your problem is a bad ground, by doing what we did in the video. Also see my other comments on how to do this. By the way,we came so close to buying a refurbished instrument cluster, which would not have worked. Luckily we had two vehicles which take the same clusters and could swap them out to find out it was not the cluster, but something else. But now you do know it is not the cluster. That of course is assuming you bought a good working cluster which did not fix the problem. Good Luck! Just keep digging and you will eventually find the problem

@Dakota-ish

3 жыл бұрын

Same !!!! What was your fix ?

@collinquasula5536

Жыл бұрын

I’m having the same problem…. What was the fix?

@collinquasula5536

Жыл бұрын

Also my AC controls and Windshield Wipers And Tow Haul does not work

Yes, it sounds like the problem is NOT your cluster, but something else. It is easy to check for a bad ground. All you need is about 24” of 18-gauge or similar wire. Bare both ends, Put one end into the back side of the wiring harness, where the black and white wire is. Then plug the wiring harness back into the instrument cluster. Hook the other end up to that metal piece I used in my video for a ground or you can just hold it on by hand and see if it fixes your problem. If not try the same procedure on the black wire going to the back of the harness. If neither of these fix your problem then you do not have a bad ground going to your instrument cluster. Start googling your problem and see what you find. It may be your speed sensors or a bad ground there. It may be the wire that carries the speed signal to the cluster. Or hopefully something else that is easy to fix. Just keep looking for information from someone that has had the same problem you are having. Try googling speed sensors or no speedometer. It was a video about the black and white ground wire that finally gave me the clue I needed to fix our problem. Problems that are electrical and mechanical are hard to trace. Even harder if they are intermittent problems, because it has to be not working to find the problem. It took us a long time to stumble upon the fix for our problem. I wish I could help you more, but I am just a DIY kind of guy and not a pro mechanic. Good luck.

@Clean-N-ShineInDfw

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this information. I've been researching for Almost two months and replacing several part's and it still didn't fix the issue.

@johntube2525

Жыл бұрын

@@Clean-N-ShineInDfw Thanks for watching and commenting! I hope it is a bad ground wire, which is pretty easy to fix. As I said in the video, my son and I spent lots of time trying to fix his no cluster problem and because I am stubborn we finally did fix the problem. I feel for you having to go through the same frustrations we did! Good luck!

So you ran the ground wire to A8? Is that the black and white wire or no? My A8 is a blue wire

@johntube2525

3 ай бұрын

I somehow found a listing by letter and number of what color and what wire went into the cluster connector for a 2000 Suburban or a 2001 Silverado. I think it was on the Chevy forum, but do not remember where I got it from. Here is a copy of what I found. Depending on the year and make of yours it may be different. Generally the Black Wire, and the Black and White Wire are for grounds, however it appears below there is also a Black and White at B12 for washer fluid level. A1 tan/white- oil pressure A2 White - Tachometer A3 Dk Grn/Whtn- VSS signal from PCM A4 Brown - Hot in On and Run A5 Gray - computer data lines A6 Black - Ground A7 Gray - Interior Lights (Dash Lights) A8 Black/white - Ground A9 Orange - Hot all times even with key off A10 Pink -Hot in Acc, On and Run A11 N/A Not used A12 Dk Green/white - Park Brake Switch B1 Lt Blue - Exterior lights (left turn signal) B2 Brown /White - Diesel engine control systems B3 Dk blue - Engine Control Systems B4 N/A Not used B5 ppl/white - Interior lights B6 Pink - Hot in On and Run B7 N/A B8 N/A B9 N/A B10 dk blu -Exterior light systems (right turn) B11 N/a B12 Black/White - washer fluid level Good Luck.

My 04 was working 100% then the tint shop killed my battery now none of the gauges work at all. Not sure what happened.

@nickowens815

3 жыл бұрын

Did you figure it out?

Hi. I'm Rafael Alcala. And I need help to fix my 2001 Chevy Tahoe. Claster.nothing works . Please. Any sujestions. I appreciated.

@johntube2525

4 жыл бұрын

Rafael. there are so many possible problems. I assume you have tried removing the cluster and hooking up a wire to the black and white wire where the harness plugs into the back of the cluster, then taking that same wire to a good know ground I believe, that should be your initial starting point. If it is not a simple ground wire problem, then just keep watching the many videos and keep digging until you find the problem. At first we were convinced that my sons problem was in the cluster circuit board, but it was not. We took the whole cluster apart and figured we would find a bad soldered joint, but everything looked solid. I even bought a used cluster on ebay for $40 plus shipping, which had a badly broken Plexiglas cover which did work just fine in my 2001 Silverado, but did not work in my son’s 2000 Suburban. We then switched my 2001 Silverado cluster with my son’s 2000 Suburban’s cluster and found his 2000 Suburban cluster did work in my 2001 Silverado, but my Silverado working cluster did not work in his 2000 Suburban. That was our first clue that it was not the actual cluster, but something else. Maybe a bad ground or power source or something other than the cluster itself. We disconnected all the ground wires from the body we could find and cleaned them and re-attached them and still no instrument cluster. Turned out the ground wire we needed to reconnect was on the back of the motor way down between the firewall and the back of the motor. However, we never actually found that ground wire. This is why I made my video with a way to hook up a ground inside the truck’s cab. My son only comes out to my house in the country every once in a while, so it took us months to finally find the actual problem. However, once we found it, it was like that was so easy to fix, I cannot believe all the things we tried before finally fixing the problem. Good luck and if this DIY guy could fix it, so can you. Just keep trying.

@bajapanta1

4 жыл бұрын

Rafael Alcala limpia las tierras de la troka las que estan abajo de la puerta del conductor en el chassis ... mas las que estan atras de las cabezas del motor del lado del pasajero Y del conductor lijalas pon les grasa dielectric mas que seguro resuelva tu problema

I’m having a similar problem my temperature gauge is not reading correctly i already tried to change coolant sensor and thermostat and no fix?? Any ideas 🤔

@johntube2525

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry, I just read your comment and I am leaving the house now to baby sit two grand-kids all day. I will try to think about it and perhaps respond tonight. Good luck.

@johntube2525

4 жыл бұрын

I really hate electrical problem, as they are generally so hard to diagnose and find. That being said, if you are only having a problem with the temperature gauge, then I think you are doing the right thing to look specifically at that gauge and everything that controls that gauge. If your engine is overheating, it could have been the thermostat was stuck closed, or if it takes forever to warm up, it could have been stuck open. You replaced it and that should have solved either of those problems. You also replaced the coolant sensor, so two possible things out of the way. If you have a GM or Chevy truck made, I believe it was after 2003, you might want to look at the gauge Stepper motor. Our 2000 Suburban and the 2001 Silverado both have older style stepper motors for the gauges. Very hard to find and they are specific depending on which gauge may not be working. Newer model vehicles, I believe from 2003 and up, have basically the same stepper motors for most of the gauges, and based on the videos I have seen those interchangeable motors can actually be the problem of a gauge. They seem to go bad easier than the older type, but are easier to find and cost much less. There are several videos on KZread showing people replacing the stepper motors. That is the only thing that comes to mind and I believe I might take a look at those videos and see if the symptoms are similar. If it works intermittently, it could be a weak connection, bad solder joint somewhere, bad wire about to break, so many possibilities and very little information to go by. Sorry, that is about all I can come up with at this point. If you find your problem, be sure to write it up and post it back, or make a video, because these types of comments and or videos really help everyone. Good Luck!

@slowgmcv8mendoza416

4 жыл бұрын

Ok thanks a lot for the information i bought a temp senor at my auto part store bought i just purchased a ac delco sensor see if it’s just a better brand I’ll see if that works and If it doesn’t then I’ll check for bed connections

There is such a thing as being to descriptive.

Jump a wire from A6 to A8

@johntube2525

3 жыл бұрын

Probably the fastest way to check if A8 is a good ground. This assumes A6 is a good ground. I still prefer using a known good ground like the screw into the frame. Checking it, as a good ground by going to the positive side of the battery. This way you know you have a good ground and take any guess work out of the equation. But yeah, I think it could be a quick and easy way to check.

@kevincarr4964

3 жыл бұрын

@@johntube2525 I had a short wire handy so I tried it and it works so far! Thanks for your video I wouldn't have figure this out without it.

@johntube2525

3 жыл бұрын

@@kevincarr4964 Thanks so much for your comment and adding to the possible ways to check grounds. Quick, less wire used and pretty easy to do. Thanks again.

??? Where is THE GROUND, YES ADD , CHANGE LOCATION BUTT TO WHERE 😢😮

@johntube2525

5 ай бұрын

I do not understand your question, but I will still try to answer. There is a Multi-plug wiring harness which plugs into the back of the instrument cluster. From that wiring harness comes many wires. Two are ground wires. One is black coming from the A6 location on the harness and goes somewhere to a ground source. The other is Black and White, which comes from A8 and goes somewhere to a ground source. I am not sure where those ground sources are. That is why; I created my own ground source on the metal bracket on the dash, which I show in the video. My A6 ground source seemed to by ok, by the multimeter testing we did, where we measured the voltage with a multimeter, using the A6 end of the wiring harness as our ground, (using the black wire from the multimeter) and measuring the voltage at the other locations like A2 and A3 (using the red wire from our multimeter). Key must be on to measure those voltages at A2 and A3., multimeter on DC volts. When we tried to do the same test, with a multimeter, but using A8 as our ground, the results on the 2000 Suburban were off. This very test made me want to try a new ground, instead of assuming the black and white wire coming from somewhere was a good ground. I do not know where that black and white wire comes from or I would have fixed it. My new ground was a wire I screwed into the metal bracket on the dash and I ran that wire up to the back of the wiring harness and pushed it into the backside of wiring harness at A8. Like doing a back probe on a wiring harness. There was already a black and white wire going into A8, but I figured it was not a good ground. With the new ground pushed into the back of the wiring harness, I then plugged the wiring harness into the instrument cluster and turned the key on and the instrument cluster started working because I now had a new ground going from the back of the instrument cluster wiring harness, at A8, to the metal bracket on the dash. You should check your new ground before plugging it into the back of the wiring harness. I did check mine by hooking that same wire up to my multimeters' black wire alligator clip and then I took a long wire and hooked it up to the red wire alligator clip and I ran that long wire all the way to the positive post on my battery. When I saw 12 volt DC on my multimeter, I knew I had a good ground with the extra wire I screwed into the metal bracket. Knowing I had a good ground, because I tested it, I then disconnected the multi-tool from my new ground and the battery and took that new extra wire up to the back of the wiring harness and pushed it into the back of the wiring harness at A8. All of this is in the video, but perhaps this helps.

Way to go MISTER.

12:15 YES, HE WAITED 12.MINUTES TO TELL US WHAT WE NEEDED TO KNOW!

Would you like to, idk. Get to the point.

Just get to the point lol

@johntube2525

2 жыл бұрын

Ok! I am deleting the video come next year! I doubt that very many people have vehicles this old anymore anyway! so this video will not be missed and nobody now days want to waste 20 minutes

@johntube2525

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, my point was: IT IS EXTREMELY HARD TO FIND AN ELETRICAL PROBLEM! But do not give up, because once you solve it, now it seems so easy!

@robl5008

2 жыл бұрын

@@johntube2525 I appreciate your video. Don't worry about the negative people. 👍

@davidlangford9107

2 ай бұрын

@@johntube2525JOHN, PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE JERKS AND PLEASE DO NOT DELETE THE VIDEO! IT IS NICE PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT HELP PEOPLE LIKE US WHO APPRECIATE YOUR TENACITY AND YOUR SHARING INFORMATION FOR THE BENEFIT OF AMERICANS!

@johntube2525

2 ай бұрын

@@davidlangford9107 Thank you very much! You will never know how much I appreciate this comment! I only make KZread videos with the hope that it will help someone with a similar problem! Thanks again!