2000 Saturn LS1, Starting Defect
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The anti theft system in the 2000 Saturn LS1, thinks you're trying to steal the car sometimes. You have to wait ten minutes before the 'Security' light stops flashing. Once the security light is not flashing you can start the car. Trying to start the car with the security light flashing will either burn out your starter or deplete your battery!
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I had to leave our 2001 Saturn in the parking lot over night I watched another video and your video and came to the conclusion to disconnect the battery for 10 minutes and after I re connected it our Saturn fires up and ran perfect! Thank you
@sloppyjonuts9162
Жыл бұрын
Thes cars suck I just bought a 1999 about a year ago it has 50 miles on it POS car other than gas mileage MY SEcond car I bought was a 03 Hyundai Electra or something g like that. Had about 80k miles on it. This was in 2013. That was a wayyy better car. But the Saturn is 20+ year old car even with low mileage. I’m searching for something new .
@sloppyjonuts9162
Жыл бұрын
50k miles
@danielinthelionsden654
Жыл бұрын
@@sloppyjonuts9162 dude you do know every manufacturer has lemons!
@danielinthelionsden654
Жыл бұрын
@@sloppyjonuts9162 I worked in the auto industry 20 years all the makes have lemons. Saturn had one of the highest ratings by car owners , people purchased them under not getting $1 off of the sale price!!!
Thank you so much for posting this video! I thought I had a cough up money for a new starter! I love my Saturn it the soldier! I don't care what anybody says about them we've had ours for years it has over 240,000 miles on it it's the best money I've ever invested in the car and it's a manual which I love!
@sloppyjonuts9162
Жыл бұрын
Just bought a 1999 has 34,000 miles on it when I bought it a few months ago Just started doing this and the horn randomly went off and same with the door locks neither will work And car won’t start I have a appoint tomorrow at the “COME On IN AND GET BENT place “ Lol
@gavinprice9934
Жыл бұрын
@@sloppyjonuts9162 the car was just looking out for you man 😂
@jameshosteen4790
Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate it thank you
Thank you for this video. After trying to crank the car several times, along with getting a boost we found this video; it worked. My daughter waited the 10 minutes. Thanks Again!!!!!!!!!!!
this is a very sophisticated car. Often seems to have a mind of it's own!
no i have one and its the same way you put the gas pedal to the flour then start then let off on the pedal works every time the risen is the security censor is on the fuel pump witch goes to the throttle body and by put the pedal all the way on the flour it resets the tension on the censor
@Lillithfare
5 жыл бұрын
That worked! Thanks. I was stuck in a parking lot and saw your comment. Saved the day!
For those looking for an answer to these problems, it is likely caused by a fried Body Control Module. The BCMs on early L-series had a 100% failure rate due to a faulty chip design by Motorola. With me, the odometer was the first thing to go (as soon as the car was turned off it lost any new mileage and kept going back to 160,000) and then the security problem cropped up. I found using a BCM from a 2003 model solved all the issues.
@Eforce3d
5 жыл бұрын
What is a BCM?
This is 100% exactly what is happening on my pos 2000 ls1. Thx for the video!
@CCWHOOSIER Thanks very much for that information! I know that 'knock on wood' feeling that this defect induces...
Thanks for posting this!
@drifta96 It is an LS1. i brought it brand new in October 1999 (2000 LS1). The Saturn models look very similar from those years.
I saw your video a few months back, my wifes sl1 was having the same problem we took it to the dealership and they replaced the terminals in the ignition and had a new key made this seemed to fix the problem" knock on wood" It has not acted up since cost us about $175.00 USD , Hope this helps.
Thanks for information!
I had the same problem. I replaced the ignition starter switch. Found a vid by richpin06a on replacing the switch. Wasn't has difficult as I thought. You will need a 5.5mm nut driver. I ordered the new switch on Amazon. Took me less than a hour to complete. No starting problems since then.
All you have to do is disconnect the negative battery cable for like 5-10 seconds and you should hear an electronic whine and then reconnect and viola. I learned this from a certified GM mechanic when my saturn did it
@farmerinchico
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information!
@levifilth
10 жыл бұрын
Im very simple lol. Do you do with with keys out or keys in and in the on postion . Thank you .
@mekanikaltitan
10 жыл бұрын
Levi Omighty Keys in off position
@kylesgrandam The battery might be worth more than the car at this point... I have 219,000 plus miles on the car. Just waiting around to see how far it will keep going. Appreciated your input!
@insignia325, GM's chimes are fairly standard. This car from what I understand is an Opel that they re-badged as a Saturn LS1. Someone at GM must have a job description at GM as 'chime manager.'
This happened yesterday to my 1999 Saturn SW2. I had it towed to the garage before I realized what it was, so just letting them look at it anyway, to be sure I didn't burn anything out.
@sweetgyy I never bother to start the car with the security light flashing. It typically takes ten minutes before the light stops flashing. McDonald's, is still better than a gas station pump or a parent pick-up zone in front of a school...
Glad it helped!
Today my 99 camaro ls1 had the same problem. It used to turn on after a couple minutes in the past, but not anymore!... I called a locksmith and he took apart my steering wheel and turned out to be a loose wire that conects to the ignition. If only i woulda known u woulda saved $150. It starts now but it did drain out my battery from me trying to start the car before wen it didnt start. Locksmith jump start my car and i was on my way :). Hope dis helps anyone with same frustrating gm cheap.
@jacketman22 Makes sense. The odometer has worked normally (so far) on my LS1.
i noticed mine does this ONLY when i open the glovebox with the vehicle runing OR if you open the glove box when the key is removed.
It makes me wonder if this feature is on a 1999 Saturn SL1. I've had this problem for a week. I didn't look for the security light but the 10 minute wait worked each time. Thanks for posting the video.
@carll.freemanjr.9867
3 жыл бұрын
It is, yes. I have a 2000 Saturn SL1 and I had this issue for the first time yesterday but I fixed it via reprogramming it according to GM's sequence.
Question is it normal for the needle to be in the middle for a Saturn ?
@MRJUANHERNAN1 It sounds like you need to replace the whole key ignition assembly. You should check Richpin's KZread channel. He repairs a lot of Saturn SL's.
I bought a Saturn one time because of the good fuel mileage. My 1999 Saturn LS1 4 cylinder got 22 mpg.... I promptly sold it for 1900
@egn83b This car has given me the 'anytime now, failure imminent' feeling for a few years already. It keeps going, though...
@JohnJohnson-zg1cd
4 жыл бұрын
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I used a piece of 8 gage wire and did the by pasd on the starter relay no problems 6mo strong !
@brianmcconnell81
7 жыл бұрын
mwilsonjr101 how
my dad's vigor alarm keeps going off when i unlock it with the valet key but with the master key it doesnt go off often its hard to stop the alarm i have to keep turning the key left and right till the alarm stops or i wait it goes off for a full 60 seconds then it stops my mom's truck has a different alarm we have the remote to it when i get the car im changing the alarm
@Acogsniper666 It will turn over. it just won't start with the light flashing.
I have a 2004 saturn ion (series 1) and I experienced this problem today. I had to wait 10-15 min fir it to start. I cut the white wire on the ignition and so far so good
@daviemel9077
5 жыл бұрын
ddemier ddemier where do I find that white wire??
old school 1998 for the win.
@bmjobrothers It's a pain whenever that occurs at a gas pump... Everyone wonders why you're hogging a pump for so long.
whats better a 2000 saturn ls1 or a 1999 toyota tacoma
Burn fuses under the passenger seat and fuse box under the cars hood make the dashboard and control pannel along with radio act up. Pull the fuses one by one and check that they are not burned( a Crack in the wire inside)
@HerecomestheCalavera My 2000, LS1 still get the low thirties on the highway. Comparable to today's midsize Accord, Camry etc.
All GM vehicles have this. I have an '05 Grand Am and I've only had to do this twice since I bought it in 2008. The second time I had to do this it started fine but now my security light stays on constantly but I can still start up every time.
@kylesgrandam Appreciate the information. I'm on my third battery since I purchased this vehicle new in 1999. It's been constant through all three batteries. I checked the alternator output and never found any problems with it. Pass lock failure...
@scottschoolcourt And you got it to start while it was flashing?
@soy_mariachi2425
3 жыл бұрын
hahahaha......i also notice that
Did you see any lights at all on your instrument cluster?
Does it have to do with the com. Mod or body mod.
You are welcome!
You mentioned that you weren't able to to move the gear level. It sounds like your key ignition mechanism is jammed. Is your security light flashing? The ten minute security security bypass has never been repaired on my car...
The LS1 is a decent car (mine is up 240,000+). Can't go wrong with a Toyota, though. It depends on the condition of both vehicles.
This is an issue with pretty much every GM car made in the early 2000s. Chevy, Saturn, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, and Buick. I've seen this the most on Impalas, Malibus, Ions, and Grand Ams, however.
@farmerinchico
7 жыл бұрын
GM, handled this situation poorly.
@matt9759
7 жыл бұрын
farmerinchico Yea. I've owned 7 GM cars (5 of them equipped with Passlock) and luckily I've never had an issue. Knock on wood.
@KennaBVB2128JR
6 жыл бұрын
farmerinchico my car has never had a starting problems Nd she's 16 yrs old. Saturn SL1 2002. She's a great car
You're Welcome!
Currently sitting in my 1999 Saturn just trying to get home. 2 hour Early out for Christmas break, and I'm still here at 330
@farmerinchico
4 жыл бұрын
Ten minutes (security light flashing) should be up by the time you read this reply!
@noahjensen371
4 жыл бұрын
@@farmerinchico I don't think it's a security thing. It's wanting to start but it sputters out. My uncle is coming by to fix it.
@farmerinchico
4 жыл бұрын
@@noahjensen371 Hope, you're on your way soon. It was a fairly normal occurrence (waiting) when we owned the old LS1.
@noahjensen371
4 жыл бұрын
@@farmerinchico my Dad had to come pick me up. My uncle is coming to fix it, so that's good.
Is the Saturn LS1, you own a 2000 model?
You can by pass it in mine it is in the fob box in the corner panel on the passenger side back seat you remove that and find the wires and connect them i use a spare wire to do it so i don't have to cut them and can undo it when ever i want
@CCWHOOSIER People have mentioned it's a problem on other GM products (Oldsmobile Alero, Saturn Ion). I wouldn't have been surprised if it involved SL1's.
I have a 2000 Saturn SL 4DR. That won't start. Lights come on. Security light is steady on when I turn the key on. Everything seems normal except the darn thing won't turn over. Would that still be the anti theft system in the car. Personally...I don't care if I dismantle it. Any ideas...
@farmerinchico
7 жыл бұрын
I've always had the flashing security light. I would do a load test of the battery. If that checks fine; then you could check the starter. My experience was the starter always turned even with the security light flashing.
Mine was doing the same thing but the starter was fairlly new so i did t think tht was the problem so i replaced the wire from batt to starter and cleaned the other terminal .Didnt work so i hit the solenoid on the starter why some turn the key and it started crankin .Which then i new it was the starter so i replaced and it worked
@egn83b Appreciate the information! I'am not going to put much more money into this car. It's up to 218,000 miles. It's like you said (at this point) drive until it stops.
the security thing does that too on the 1996 Chevy Malibu
I'am going to try that. I'll let you what happens with my LS1.
Same on all passlock Saturn's. Sometimes it's the key lock cylinder, sometimes the ignition lock housing that has a sensor
to me is seems like if you shorted the battery you short the capacitor that takes ten minutes to discharge on the security system. Its an electrical issue just fix it and move on.
Believe it or not this actually worked On my 2004 saab 9-3
@farmerinchico
2 жыл бұрын
GM, company at the time. I'm sure they installed this system across many of their brands.
@chaseman94 My LS1 is like Russian roulette. Sometimes, it'll go an entire month without a problem. On one occasion I was stuck for twenty minutes, Passlock , decided it wanted to disable the car twice...
you should buy this thing back man
@farmerinchico
2 жыл бұрын
It's long gone!
@sonoma4525
2 жыл бұрын
@@farmerinchico aww is it junked?
@MikePYaDig mine is a LS1, the the other person was talking about his SL.
How can you tell its a LS I'm trying to find mine on my 2003 saturn ion and I can't find it anywhere
@farmerinchico
4 ай бұрын
There might be someone in the Saturn community that knows about the Ion. My experience was only with L Series.
I must be lucky then. I had my 2000 Saturn LS1 since 2003 and never had that problem in 13 years of driving it. *Knock on wood* I will keep it though until it's demolished because they are more reliable than any car I ever owned.
@farmerinchico
7 жыл бұрын
I brought my LS1 in 2000. That was the first model year. GM, probably solved the problem in later model years.
@Keiter76
7 жыл бұрын
That must be it. When I bought my car I had to take in to get the door handles fixed because they posed a chipping problem and were being recalled. It was fixed for free and they kept it a few days so maybe they fixed that too while they were at it. I really don't have any complaints about the car itself. I get laughed at sometimes for driving a Saturn, but I'll take its reliability over some flashy car that may have bigger issues any day.
@farmerinchico
7 жыл бұрын
We enjoyed the car. I especially enjoyed it on the highway. The starting problem is something GM should have addressed. They essentially told me "the car is old."
@Keiter76
7 жыл бұрын
Cars may be old, but that doesn't mean it should have ignition problems like that. That's not normal for a car to think the owner is trying to steal it, and I bet anyone of them that claimed it's old wouldn't want that to happen to them.
@farmerinchico
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's incredible GM, took that stance. Saturn, had so much potential when it was first introduced. It's sad it ended up in the dustbin.
Was your car already warmed up before ?
@farmerinchico
11 ай бұрын
Yes, the vehicle had already been driven that day.
@Acogsniper666 All the mechanics, I spoke to regarding the problem didn't want to touch the car. Even the dealer couldn't guarantee a solution. Richpin06a is another KZread channel. He does a lot of work on Saturn's. It might be worth contacting him.
@carll.freemanjr.9867
3 жыл бұрын
Change your lock cylinder switch and your ignition switch, you won't have anymore issues. Just rememver you have to program it which is not hard to do.
@MRJUANHERNAN1 You're welcome!
@hornick18 LOL, yeah I've had those moments with the LS1...
It happened when I got a new battery in the car, but the car starts.
I have the same problem but the doors of car unlock or lock it self any advice
@farmerinchico
3 жыл бұрын
It could be the remote door opener/closer has sticky buttons.
@mm-xl3cn
3 жыл бұрын
@@farmerinchico that wasn't the problem..... I paid a mechanic 2 check it out he did turn it on n well when I i ran it for a awhile I turn it off n now the battery is dead i check the starter n alternator it passed soo idk it might be
@farmerinchico
3 жыл бұрын
@@mm-xl3cn Your could try asking KZreadr: richpin06a. He does a lot of work on Saturn vehicles. Might be able to help.
Pull the fuse for the anti theft..dont worry nobody will steal it.. I own one I know
@doriesalazar2977
5 жыл бұрын
Daniel Pettis were is the fuse?
1:32 what is that noise?
@farmerinchico
Жыл бұрын
My daughter! She doesn't sound like that any more ; )
@sonoma4525
Жыл бұрын
@@farmerinchico does she have a bf?
Richpin (KZread channel) is an excellent Saturn technician. He might be able to help.
this happens on my 2001 SC2 all the time
@Acogsniper666 Strange. A new variant...
i have the SL2 and when it does that... all i do is turn it off then turn it to the run, shift to Neutal... start the car right up... Win..
@farmerinchico Just reread my comment I meant to say LS1 not SL1 , totally different model.
Hey how do the low cooliant light look
@farmerinchico
Жыл бұрын
I don't recall an issue with the low coolant light. One of the hoses did leak one time. I saw it before the low coolant light ever came on.
Huh thank man I'll try that
We have a 99 SL2 with manual trans. I removed the radio and triggered the anti theft system. Anyone know where to disarm the system? Our SL2 has 223k miles and no one is dumb enough to steal it. Less than 30 mins after trying to start it, I figured out how to bypass it like a kill switch now. Starts every time no problem, just dont like hitting the switch.
@daviemel9077
5 жыл бұрын
How did you bypass please?
I had to leave our Saturn 2001 Sl2 in a parking lot because it wouldn’t start. The key was to disconnect the battery for 10 minutes and reconnect it snd it fired up I just got home from driving it. The issue is security detected it being stolen so it disengages the fuel line as if it has no gas!
@farmerinchico
2 жыл бұрын
I used to wait for ten minutes. I tried disconnecting the battery. It didn't make any difference.
@danielinthelionsden654
2 жыл бұрын
@@farmerinchico this happened to me last night it would crank not start. I disconnected to battery for 10 minutes then I put it back I then pressed down on the gas for 30 seconds it was cranking then all of a sudden it did like a hiccup. I cranked again fired right up
@farmerinchico
2 жыл бұрын
@@danielinthelionsden654 Fun times! At least you didn't get stuck at a busy gas station...
@danielinthelionsden654
2 жыл бұрын
@@farmerinchico one mile from my house in a parking lot. I am thankful in full disclosure I prayed over the situation and watched 2 videos that’s how I combined them both and it helped me. 👊🏽
i replaced my battery and it never happened again. i sold the car about a month ago and the person is a close friend of mine and it never happened to him either. could of just been coincidental but like i said i down own the car anymore. but i had the EXACT issue, 10 minute wait blah blahh whole 9 yards
I changed my file pump and now when I try to start it turns good but not getting any spark what do I do
@farmerinchico
3 жыл бұрын
richpin06a (KZread Channel) he is quite the expert on Saturn vehicles.
@farmerinchico Best of luck with it
I'm having this exact problem...wait 10 mins then start. Do you have a cure?? Hopefully.
@farmerinchico
5 жыл бұрын
I was never able to repair it. It just became normal that you might get stuck for the ten minutes. Once it occurred twice in row. I sat there for twenty minutes.
@Eforce3d
5 жыл бұрын
@@farmerinchico wow, that sucks cuz I do doordash deliveries. I need to get this fixed. If I do I'll let you know. Thanks so much for your video, and that I'm not alone. Lol.
@farmerinchico
5 жыл бұрын
@@Eforce3d You're welcome anytime! I hope you don't get that the 'Security' light too often.
@Eforce3d
5 жыл бұрын
@@farmerinchico I cut the white wire today, no issues so far. Whoohoo
@farmerinchico
5 жыл бұрын
@@Eforce3d You'll still think about it every time you start the car (I did). It's like a bad horror movie.
it won't start and it gets put on a machine reads that it has no compression what other cause will make it hard to go faster while running
@farmerinchico
3 жыл бұрын
No compression is a dead engine,
I wouldn't do it if your car is very old. I always felt that GM should have repaired it free of charge (it is an engineering defect). None of my mechanics wanted to touch it. Five hundred is too expensive in my opinion.
I'll try doing that the next time the light flashes.
Appears to be a complete Security PassLock failure.
Change your starter relay.
Does it work on the L series
@farmerinchico
4 жыл бұрын
I had this trouble with the 2000 LS1.
Didn't work for my car.
yep. disconnect battery 2x
No has 130 on the dash instead of 110 and redlines at 6500 instead of 5500 it's an ls2 it's got the dohc motor instead of the single banger
@farmerinchico
4 жыл бұрын
It had a 2.2L DOHC I4 16 valve engine.
@farmerinchico fuck the dealer go to a garage mechanic that does free diagnostics but the altimate fix is just replace the alarm module or replace the ecu. I don't know much about the saturns other then they are not GM's most reliable brand. But just like the daewoos that got phased out its better to keep driving it tell it dies and get a newer car that is still being produced so you can have access to cheap parts. Good luck with your repair attemps.
hey bud did you junk this car?
@farmerinchico
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't junk it. It was still in operating condition when I sold it.
@sonoma4525
2 жыл бұрын
@@farmerinchico try to buy it back, I'll help
@farmerinchico
2 жыл бұрын
@@sonoma4525 It's long gone. That was almost eleven years ago.
@sonoma4525
2 жыл бұрын
@@farmerinchico sorry I'm annoying you, I just like these cars
@farmerinchico
2 жыл бұрын
@@sonoma4525 Don't see many anymore. Saturn, was great idea.
Already dealt with this and I know how to fix it. Common GM issue.
@VloggingLife.
3 жыл бұрын
How do I fix it
Never had a problem with the shifter. Sounds like an ignition key issue.
@egn83b The dealer never helped. They offered to look at the car for a hundred buck's minimum and couldn't guarantee any success. The CEO's office, (Wagner at the time) didn't care. Basically told me to"deal with it."
It does da same thing like my camaro z28
Mi carro ISO eso en caso de no funcionar al tiempo de Aser eso que dices que otra cosa puede ser mi carro es un Saturn 2002 estándar