Each time I hear Karen's story my heart breaks for her. Thank you for a profound and caring interview.

@jenniferaraisuru

Жыл бұрын

Heartbreaking 😢

@caramelbilquees

5 ай бұрын

Especially the way they force you to hand over all your stuff belongings money to them. But wouldn't give you 1 DOLLAR!!!!

I love Andrew throwing shade. " None of them are A-listers!" 😂

The fact that she can accept her responsibility with peace is so powerful. Stories to knowledge to wisdom blew my mind.

Karen is like a breath of fresh air. She’s softly spoken, sincere and humorous. I love that she has had her own experiences and was very sad to hear what happened to her son. Thanks Andrew, you do a great job in finding people to talk to.

The one on one with Hubbard and being made to feel like they were the only one in the world and the sun rose and set on them was classic love bombing that a narcissist will display.

@wingedinfinity6715

Жыл бұрын

💯‼️‼️‼️‼️

@wingedinfinity6715

Жыл бұрын

Same mentality that all abusers use and that keeps a person trapped for a period of time in an abusive relationship.

@absinthealice

Жыл бұрын

Narcissists are masters of manipulation. My heart goes out to all survivors of narcissistic abuse.

@singingsam40

Жыл бұрын

The more I learn about Scientology as an organisation, the more I liken it to a narcissist, but on a collective, global scale. It's utterly terrifying.

@cymbelinebritain6799

Жыл бұрын

@@singingsam40 Exactly. They, as well as many cults and cult leaders operate on a narcissist/co-dependent dynamic but on a grand scale.

I'm so sorry that this cult is responsible for the death of her son. He is one of so many lives they have taken 💔

@nadinewhite993

Жыл бұрын

And if they don't take your life they certainly take your mind. And program it.

@tiffprendergast

Жыл бұрын

Yeah

@JM-pg5rc

Жыл бұрын

She almost killed someone with her auditing. A vulnerable ex Scientologist. She told him not to go to a psychiatrist but buy more auditing from her. She told him not to tell anyone he was having dangerous thoughts towards himself because he’d be forced to go to a psychiatrist. A hotel employee saved him. She is a dangerous manipulator but because she’s anti Scientology she gets a pass.

I want to watch this as soon as I have an hour to devote. I looked up her name and see Scientology has a smear site about her. I glanced at it. Even if every bit was true, which I doubt, my answer to Scientology would be "I don't know Karen but I know what YOU are, and that's enough."

@wingedinfinity6715

Жыл бұрын

LOVE THIS !!!!! 💥🙌💥

@JuliaGulia310

Жыл бұрын

​@@wingedinfinity6715 thanks! I'm finally watching this video now, before bed.

@LottieSue

Жыл бұрын

FYI the little sprocket under the video allows you to speed up the video or down. I use it all the time.

@PatriciaBrown1711

Жыл бұрын

Well said.

@fennisprokop3984

Жыл бұрын

Haha me too, it's sooo interesting, typical I find this as I'm running late for work 🙃😫💯

Watching the down fall of Scientology is very compelling.

Karen is such an incredible woman! 💗 Thank you Andrew for having her on to share her story and reveal some of the abhorrent truths about the cult of Scientology that she shared so eloquently with all of us.

Another great interview, Andrew. Lots of my earliest learnings about Scientology came from Karen's videos. I think she's great.

@AndrewGold1

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Scientology is the “House of Snitches”. Karen is a beautiful human inside and out! ❤

@allenschmitz9644

Жыл бұрын

90's rule.

@wingedinfinity6715

Жыл бұрын

The House of Horrors is how I would put it.

Love this interview!!! She explains best so far the why’s people are roped into this cult and stay for the abuse.

Karen, thank you so much for telling the truth of scientology. You have helped many with your bravery. Andrew, thank you so much for bringing us people like Karen. I hope many hear her words!!

My cousin was infatuated with a Scientology guy. She went with him to Sussex. They wouldn’t let her leave without paying 25k. My uncle went to American Embassy and they got her out. This was early70s.

The last part of the interview where Karen explains the addiction to Scientology and the high you get in auditing is just brilliant. So true!

This interview brings many things to the foreground, as to how cults ensnare & maintain their hold on wonderful people who are otherwise really on the ball. Thank you Andrew & Karen!

Alaxander passing was NOT Karen's fault it's all scientologys fault!!!!! Thank you Andrew for this awesome interview.

Thanks Andrew for a great interview with Karen. Karen is a hero of mine, she's a real pure soul, her journey is an inspiration to so many people. Sending Strength and light to Karen and all SP's fighting the good fight.

I love ms Karen. Is the wealth of knowledge, With big heart❤👍

Thank you Andrew and Karen for the interview Karen You have done so much in educating me and others allot….. of the evil of scientology your videos was the first that I watched about the cult ..Thank you Karen

@EllaNonimato

Жыл бұрын

he interrupts her so many times to the fact that they are talking over each other longer than it feels comfortable to listen

@wingedinfinity6715

Жыл бұрын

​@@EllaNonimato I think the times it seems he was talking over her was because of her not hearing him speaking,.... something was wrong with the sound on her end because there were numerous times she was talking but could not hear her. I think it was technical difficulties because he normally doesn't talk over his guests.

Thank you wonderful humans! This story is beyond heartbreaking and totally unacceptable 💔 Standing with you in the fight!

Tom Cruise is a JOKE right along with DM. I really do not know anyone here in the US that thinks of Tom as anything but a weird scientologist now. This lady is a great guest. Im so sorry to hear about her son.

@aliendroneservices6621

Жыл бұрын

His movies are great. The fact that he participates in the CoS's crimes doesn't change that.

@allenschmitz9644

Жыл бұрын

@@aliendroneservices6621 Hinkley had a vision!

@JuliaGulia310

Жыл бұрын

​​@@aliendroneservices6621 my problem though is that he probably donates a large portion of his income from his movies to Scientology (as well as keeping a large portion 😅). And I don't want to contribute at all. His current net worth is estimated at $620 million.

@aliendroneservices6621

Жыл бұрын

@@JuliaGulia310 He's not required to, because he provides the CoS with free endorsement value. "Dr. Berg" (not actually a doctor) is speculated to donate more than Tom Cruise does.

@JuliaGulia310

Жыл бұрын

@@aliendroneservices6621 Business Insider says he has given about $25 million to Scientology since he's been with them. Recent articles claim this. Seems like a lot to me.

She is very savvy on the under laying, behind the scenes, of that harrowing world of Scientology!! I have really enjoyed this video. Thank you, Andrew.

Karens incredible combination of delicate fierceness, and vulnerable strength are as unique as her role as a revealer of this cults despicable anti-humanity!

This is the best interview of Karen!

Wow! What an amazing interview She really explained how people get hooked Yikes!

she is such a sweet soul

I remember back in the late 70s or early 80s there was a paperback that was everywhere. Is was called Dianetics and it sold like hotcakes. I was still in middle school and read it because I was in a bad situation and looking for answers. My big sister took it away from me and told me that they were a cult.

@irenes3470

Жыл бұрын

I remember the commercials, very dramatic

@Mel-os3ld

Жыл бұрын

I remember that... what was it exactly??

@sandralybrand9425

Жыл бұрын

I hope you've since thanked your sister!

It never fails to surprise me some of the things i hear on here. I've obviously had my eyes wide shut for some time ! Keep them coming Andrew ...i'm intrigued 🫠mention it all...

@PatriciaBrown1711

Жыл бұрын

EYES WIDE SHUT how ironic. Stanley Kubrick died after making this film and maybe was deleted for speaking up about things.

This woman is so brave... which makes her so beautiful!

THANK YOU KAREN, You are a hero in many ways and I have a tremendous respect for you. Thank you for being selfless by putting yourself on the line to save others from that wickedness. May God the Father bless you always for all you do. 💕💕💕

I'd change the opening question to, "How did you get initiated into Scientology (fill in the coercive group)?". For the obvious reason: people explore or participate; they don't join.

I wonder how an actress like Elizabeth Miss who acted in the Handmaid’s tale can still be a Scientologist

What a marvellous interview. It is always a treat to have Karen around. What a noble, gentle and brave woman. Thank you Andrew

I Never new this deep. Thank you ALWAYS New Evil.

The snitching culture was very present in the 80s. I was shocked by the culture when I lived amongst them.

I've never understood why someone would follow anyone anywhere. I find it a bizarre concept not to have control over your own decision-making process.

@rottsandspots

Жыл бұрын

I've never understood why people haven't made their first million by 21. Bizarre not to be retired by 25. Or maybe people don't have the same opportunities in life, including mental resilience and family support, both financial and emotional.

@Don.tKillTheMessanger

Жыл бұрын

@Amazing Mazey Rottweiler I don't understand what a person's ability to think for themselves has to do with money. While I agree that a person's financial position is beyond their control, I don't see the connection between that and a person's need to worship another person.

Your interviews are really good Andrew. You actually allow people to talk and don't interrupt like do many do!

I can’t get enough of these Scientology videos since my visit to Clearwater. You guys all helped me- you have no idea. Thank goodness for Karen- all the brave SPs. ❤ Appreciate your journalism and all those who bring light to this darkness I want to know more about WISE. How did I go to the dentist and end up in downtown Clearwater? At the doctor? I can see how Scientology is appealing, manipulative, and can get one “high” Thank YOU To all who bring us these stories.

The fact is Tom Cruise doesn't need to question his bad choices because he gets to live his life, have his career and have the freedom (limited as it is by being a Hollywood Alister) that comes with that. Most people in scientology are enslaved to it and are fleeced to the point of bankruptcy and have horrible lives.

Thank you, Andrew and Karen. From South Africa 🇿🇦.

So sorry, Karen for the trauma you suffered at the hands of that sick, twisted cult. Your activities are a wonderful tribute to your son., Alexander. You didn't cause any of it. A major tool of Scientology--or any "religion" for that matter, is shame. You were another victim of their mind control. Through you, Alexander is helping many become aware and leave to find freedom. Tom Cruise showed everyone his instability at least 2 x, one on Oprah, where he repeatedly jumped up and down on a sofa. That was bizarre enough, but in an interview with Matt Lauer when Lauer mentioned therapy. That unleashed a lengthy hostile, insane rant. The personality change was stark.

I loved this interview! Karen's knowledge and ability to answer with such depth is intriguing. It is so telling how she shared specific questions they use to hook a person. I hope she forgives herself regarding her son. I agree, Andrew, she was also a victim❤

Believe it or not, I was about 13 or 14 when I went to a yard sale with my parents ( in the 70's ) and I saw the book by L Ron Hubbard, I read a few pages and told My Dad, "This is a cult and it's very scary" little did I know as a child how bad it was, but if a child that young can read a few pages and get uncomfortable, how are these rich adults sucked in???

I enjoy her information about cos. The escape stories are crazy.

She’s a fascinating guest.

Love this smart, sweet lady ❤

I agree with Karen's statement that Alex's death should not be in vain. I saw an interview with Karen about Lisa McPherson and that prays on my mind. Yes! Their deaths should not be in vain- and that must be shouted from the rooftops so scientology will be held accountable. I will never forget Lisa McPherson's name (and now, Alex).

Love Karen - she's a firebrand and clearly (even with you), not afraid to correct and clarify. Great interview, Andrew! Thanks to you and Karen.

Hello! I’ve worked near Hemet CA I used to purchased electric parts for a recording studio. The church of Scientology would buy our equipments. We would buy rare vacuum tubes from the church of Scientology. Sometimes the members would come to our office. They were arrogante. My boss call them “the sickies” Sick in the head. My physical therapist from the hemet area has a patient that’s is brought in by the Scientologist who’s is not allowed to talk to the staff.

@Earthbound369

Жыл бұрын

WOW!!

@allenschmitz9644

Жыл бұрын

sickies....that's so unhealthy of a hint.😆

LRH abused his wife, his children and everyone else. He did horrible things. He was a thief, he stole the first ship he had from well know occult leader Jack Parsons. He also stole Parsons then girlfriend Sara Hollister who later became Hubbards wife.

I would love to know what happens with Tommy Davis. He just suddenly disappeared. I heard sales real estate in Texas, but what happened?

Science fiction as life's reality. Scary that people went with this.

Excellent presentation. Thank you. A real eye opener !

Can this tax exemption details get looked at? Can someone look into their details of what qualified them to get tax exemption! And also to see if it still applies with all their law breaking crimes?

I enjoy how Karen speaks & I honestly don't even know why. It's most probably her auditing training, but I genuinely love listening to her. I always get excited when I see her on Aaron or the other "suppressive persons'" channels too. Cannot recommend her channel enough, she seems so sweet. I'd probably have let her audit me.

I just found this channel, I've been binge watching since 🌻💙💜🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

What a lovely person Karen is, and so sad what's happened to her and her family. Love, light and peace xx Thank you Andrew for all your hard work and dedication to journalism. 👍

I love your videos with karen!😃 I could listen to her for hours. I need to subscribe to her channel. Waves to all 🤗❤

THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS VALUABLE INFORMATION AND KNOWLEDGE OF THE SCIENTOLOGY CULT

Excellent interview. Thank you!

Great 🤯😵 interview. She's a remarkable survivor. 💔🙏🏻 (but ... heads up - 1.25 speed is best. You are welcome.)

Karen is absolutely THE BEST!!! What a great woman to have the cojones to speak such truth. YOU GO, KAREN! Well done, Andrew.

What a sweetheart she is 💕

Love listening to Karen de la Carriere! Shes smart, sharp and remembers details about her experiences in the co$. Thank you both for your time.

I remember being a teenager and watching cartoons (even as a 13 yr old we did) and there were ads in between for L. Ron Hubbard’s Scientology. It should not have been allowed in the 70s! But are they targeting kids today too?

Wow what a brave lady ❤

Have you heard this story before? And who should I interview next? Hit like, and let me know! By the way, you can view my full list of podcast episodes by clicking 'On the Edge' at the top of the description!

@jencisick

Жыл бұрын

I always enjoy listening to Karen. 😊

@Madders23

Жыл бұрын

I heard something about it. I don’t see how he can blame Scientology. Why didn’t he get out of the cult to save his son? I’m sure you will explain.

@rebeccabejenaru

Жыл бұрын

@Madders cults are not meant for people to he saved FROM. They are made that way by design. Truly, we've seen this over and over in history.. .. I live near Clearwater, FL. I know what they have..take a drive through Clearwater, and maybe the aware would notice. I know why they join.

@michellemooresings

Жыл бұрын

Will do that.

@briggs0072

Жыл бұрын

Hi Andrew, your channel is one of the first channels I found when I first started watching KZread. You're an amazing and respectful interviewer and have some of the most interesting and provocative content. Keep doing what you're doing! 😊

4:30 Now just imagine being kicked out of over 200 countries! ✡️

@allenschmitz9644

Жыл бұрын

That sounds Anti Semetic!

I feel that Cruise chooses to believe because it suits him. Unlike most of the staff, he lives out in the 'real world' so no excuse. With regards to Alex, I am certain that his mum would not have knowingly put him in danger. Nearly every parent would gladly take a bullet for their child. Bless her heart.

Andrew once again another great informative video.. your channel is one of the best on YT ❤

I don't know this woman but i am glad she is another former scientologist speaking out..... She is brave and i hope more and more comes out it needs shutting down.....snitiching culture as well on your own family members and friends??!!!!😂 its insane.....

She had a little too much plastic surgery.

Karen is a strong woman with a painful story of survival that I’ve always admired. ❤❤❤

I loved listening to this lady! Interesting interview!

I would like to know more about David Misgavige. How he got into his position, was he always the heir apparent? When was it clear he was the heir? Was anyone else in the running? What happened to that person? Has anyone tried to remove Misgavige? Who are the top people around Misgavige? I like to know more about how the top people got where they are and how do they hold onto power?

@Julia-uh4li

Жыл бұрын

David Miscarriage was Never the Heir Apparent. Growing up in Scientology channel by Aaron Levin, details all of it as well as the Blown For Good channel. (Blown is a Scientology expression for those who secretly escaped) It's very much worth the watch and the man who has Blown For Good is a great chap named Marc Headly and his wife is Clair who joins him often on his channel. The Headly's, Aaron Levin along with Mike Rinder have recently made videos about who the true Heirs were supposed to be, which were a married couple that stayed with L Ron Hubbard during his last 6 years of life, in seclusion living out of a motor home. David Miscarriage BEAT, intimidated, threatened, scammed & thieved his way to the top spot. Please do have a watch. It's so indepth and informative. All of those I've previously mentioned who have Blown For Good, Ex-Scientologists, are incredibly thoughtful, astute, hilarious and wonderful folks that anyone would be greatful to have in their life. My sister escaped the Sea Org over a decade ago and still to this day is tormented by "Fair Game" tactics and it's at times, nearly cost her her life. She spent her first 2 years post Scientology, letting me hide and taken care of her in my home in England. She eventually had to go back home to the States, and they soon caught up with her again. They are most happy to remind her every so often that they're still thinking of her. So, she still looks over her shoulder from time to time and probably always will. It's ruined her in some ways, to be honest & for that, I have a very special kind of hatred towards them.

@geekdivaherself

Жыл бұрын

​@@Julia-uh4li Ditto!

@jwsuicides8095

Жыл бұрын

Misgavige seems such a "little" person".

@HolyMoly432

Жыл бұрын

Read “Inside Scientology” by Janet Reitman. Also “Going Clear” by Lawrence Wright. Wright also did an HBO special by the same name.

That story about the flowers is just nuts! I'm reminded of the scene from Alice in Wonderland where Alice encounters servants of the Queen of Hearts painting the roses red because they'd planted white ones by mistake and didn't want to be beheaded.

EVERY SINGLE MOVE SCIENTOLOGY MAKES, BACKFIRES TO A NUCLEAR DEGREE! Its comical how childlike and flat out stoopid Tiny Miscavige is! He is LITERALLY the definition of "your own worst enemy"!

So many thanks for all you are doing to bring down this cult, Karen de la Carriere. You are an amazing person. Sending much love to you

It's so weird. I was accused of having 666 working through me and I had brought all the negativity to the group... I didn't think I was in a cult...🤔

this lady has a long carreer of making bad decisions... she's botched.

@marcwilliams9824

10 ай бұрын

I believe her plastic surgeon retired as the third richest person in the world...

How did he get prescriptions for opiates? He couldn't get a prescription for an antibiotic. How sad!

@claudiabothma

Жыл бұрын

There are scientologist 'doctors'. Very bad. Research Lisa Macpherson's death. She was a scientologist murdered by this cult. It is unbelievable that they get away from consequences to their actions!

Karen, how terrible to lose you child so unnecessarily!! The insight on L. Ron's germ phobia makes total sense, but I still find it difficult to see L. Ron as a charming person. I find his appearance, alone, repulsive. And as for Tom and David, Karen is right that they have a truly strange and perverse bond with each other...I think they're about the same age, no? I think Tom didn't have a healthy father figure and was surrounded by females(mom and sisters)growing up so perhaps that is his draw towards David Miscavige??? Besides which his mom and sisters spoiled him rotten, prob; that would explain his reasons for staying in this cult that allows him the freedom to treat all people like crap.

Great job

Hollywood... Evil.

Hubbard was a master manipulator.

Couldn't take my eyes off this ladies hair... Very interesting interview Andrew, my cumpets went cold watching this..❤️

@lisahowes2701

Жыл бұрын

Its a beautiful wig isn't it. She has style and grace ❤

Power and control.. Hubbard sounds like he was a narcissist or dictator, amongst other things ,curious about his upbringing

So, her son could take pain meds, but not antibiotics?

Love the comment about you being a cute lad! ❤ ok... Andrew, thank you for this. This lady, Karen, is quirky as hell. I feel like she was an actress at some stage, I feel like I remember her on 'The Love Boat'. She has looked like this forever. I think. Very strange. However, all that aside, she was so very revealing, and I loved it. I think you've sent me down a rabbit hole with where I know her from. Thanks, mate. Keep it up. ❤

@lisacolledge7624

Жыл бұрын

Edit: now I know!! It just came to me....I was thinking of Carol Channing. Google her, and you'll see what I mean. Thank God, torment over.

@Mel-os3ld

Жыл бұрын

She's giving me sitcom vibes...

Hello from Paris-France! Love your work! Keep going!❤

@AndrewGold1

Жыл бұрын

salut coucou! :D et merci xana!

Learning so much about her. Her name isn’t her real name just like every other thing about her. She left but continued to audit vulnerable people for a lot of money and then fair game them if they criticized her. She told mentally ill people to not go to real psychiatrists but pay her more for auditing. She still controls the ex Scientologists community with her secret group called The Outerbanks. The truth is coming out about her and her husband, Jeffrey Augustine who uses his private investigation company to fair game their critics. It’s a shame that she left the cult and started her own.

Sounds like he was septic .. so he got infection in his bloodstream if he had a raging fever and become unresponsive.. he may have taken opioids but it might not be an overdose as much as the infection that killed him .. cause if an antibiotic would have saved him that’s not an opioid overdose that’s infection .. I’m in the medical field since 1994.. so I truly believe he was septic ..and she obviously loved her child .. it was not her fault!!!

48:30 Raging bullies can control it-- they'll stop on a dime when LE shows up, or they inadvertently go further than they intended.

I love Karen.

She is amazing!

Could you ask her about the oxford capacity test? Like, what is it for.

@scarletfalanges

Жыл бұрын

Seems its the 'free personality test' that scientology offer people on the street, but at events etc to hook them in to the cult Bait, and based in some pretty generic personality questions. Sounds legit with a name like that! In case the link doesn't post KZread Wikipedia has this info if you search there : en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_Capacity_Analysis

Is Karen a member of MENSA? The plaque over her right shoulder appears to have the logo for them. Lovely lady🎉

Wow just 2 minuts in, she make my heart warm 💖💚💜

I can feel her pain, when she speaks about her son .