I used to only ride 1000cc superbikes. I had to. Then I lost 160 pounds. I went from 350 to 190. Best thing you can do if you are a motorcyclist is lose weight. Now when I ride I can feel how even adding 5 pounds changes my bikes feel. I have a 250cc dual sport weight savings help. Don’t underestimate power/weight ratios. Try it. Every 10 pounds you lose your bike will feel that much more alive, so will you.

@johnkolinoff8591

5 жыл бұрын

freesoulvw. TRUE THAT!!

@JpOcDenver

5 жыл бұрын

AHEM... Lemmy....

@mxgryan

5 жыл бұрын

Great advice.

@BEEBEE159

3 жыл бұрын

I lost 55lbs and 6 inches off my waist, from 185 to 130. Believe it or not, I was well below what Americans call normal, before I lost the 55lbs.; I was not considered overweight, even by my doctor. Like you said, it makes a huge difference regarding how you look and feel. I'm on a 250cc motorcycle, too, and it moves me along just fine.

Buys a light lithium battery. Installs it using heavy steel cage into the bike.

After having to replace my stock HD AGM battery under warranty 3 times in 2 years I decided to switch to Lithium and haven't looked back since.

@chrisb9960

5 жыл бұрын

On what bike?

@chantakzee

3 жыл бұрын

So how does it stand up so far ?

Some people say their lithium battery won't crank the starter or cranks slow when it's cold, but if you just turn the ignition on and let the headlight shine for about 30 seconds, it will wake up the lithium battery and it will then crank the starter as normal.

@BEEBEE159

3 жыл бұрын

Regarding waking up the battery by turning on the headlight for 30 seconds, do you have to do that every single time you start the motorcycle throughout the day, or just in the morning at first start-up?

@andyblack5687

3 жыл бұрын

@@BEEBEE159 Mine only needs it when it’s below about 40°F (+5°C). During warm weather, it acts just like a normal battery.

@BEEBEE159

3 жыл бұрын

@@andyblack5687 What has your experience been with lithium batteries? I see a lot of people saying that their motorcycles burst into flames, and others saying that the battery only lasted a few months, or even exploded. Lithium batteries sound very dangerous to use, especially with the vibrations of a motorcycle.

@andyblack5687

3 жыл бұрын

@@BEEBEE159 I’ve had zero issues and great service from mine. It’s from Western Power Sports but they sell lots of brands that are basically the same battery as far as I know. I got mine in early 2019 and it’s still as good as new. I got the one that’s the same size externally as the original battery so it would fit in the factory space without any need for blocks or anything like that. So no extra vibes are felt. Also I don’t know if all battery chargers are compatible with them. I have put it on a Battery Tender Jr. maybe three times and it work like it’s supposed to.

@remyllebeau77

11 ай бұрын

@@andyblack5687 What if you have LED lights? Turning on the headlight won't draw that much power anymore. How about a small heating pad put under or around the battery on a switch?

It’s the most cost effective way to reduce weight on a dirt bike. Especially of the battery is located under the seat and high up. Ditching a big chunk of weight sitting high up on the bike improves bike feel.

I went with Lithium on my Indian Scout because it offered double the cranking amps. Solved my problematic hot restart problems.

@jonathangarzon2798

5 жыл бұрын

What battery? Have a victory octane and couldn't fit a ATX 20 antigravity one so trying to get feedback

@bradleypearson1087

6 ай бұрын

So glad I saw your comment as just bought the noco lithium battery and needed a review from an Indian owner. Be putting it in tomorrow

What about touring bikes that have a lot of add on accessories? Would Lithium be a better choice?

Lithium battery works great on my Harley. Great cranking power! Super light. Expensive. But worth it if you can afford it.

LiFePO4 is smaller, so we can keep the essential set of booster cables in the batt box. 👍

I was thinking didn’t Delboy use a lithium battery for his street fighter bike and he appears (@ 1:37)!

Well I am now using an Antigravity in my Aprilia Rsv4 factory track bike. On the track the battery is fine. Seldom do I take her on the street. However, when I do. I am having to pull over because the battery has kicked off because of heat. I also have a Shorai which never had that issue. I can tell the difference with the weight. I will probably just stay off the street. But for those that ride on a regular basis. Be mindful of this.

I had an AGM battery cracking the crappy battery tray on an aluminum frame dual sport. I reinforced the tray and swapped in an antigravity. It's been across the country and back, on the TAT, and everything from freezing to 110 degree dessert. I problems. I did put in a complete cutoff switch to eliminate parasitic drain. Not good for hard starting carbed bikes on that first start of the year, but mine's still going after 4 years.

@andrekarpov8757

5 жыл бұрын

Joshua Saunders I live in New York and it gets pretty cold seasonally but I ride almost every day. I don’t have a garage and park my bike outside. Would lithium be ok for me? What kind of switches are you using?

I agree. There are benefits but explain the need to pay more for new yec GB

Africa twin has the lipo for weight saving (adventure sports edition) I usually have yuasa on mine, but given the fact that, on an Africa twin, it's a pain in the ass to change them I prefer longer lasting ones

Hey Lemmy, Thank you so much for including my clip in the video here, it was an honour to be involved with RevZilla... Take care and ride safe. Del.

@Moonfleet41

5 жыл бұрын

@ZLA Lemmy Wow, thank you for those kind words, feel free to use any clips you like, if there's something specific you need, we have 1100 videos online, so feel free to ask, any time, as I've a pretty good memory of everything we've done and how to find it lol, so if there's something specific you need, just say the word Sir !

@PepeDeezNutz

2 жыл бұрын

@@Moonfleet41 I don’t see anything

@digiSal

2 жыл бұрын

@@PepeDeezNutz it's at the end.

@PepeDeezNutz

2 жыл бұрын

@@digiSal where?

I see a lot about cold climates, but how do lithiums handle hot weather? Tucson gets ridiculous in the summer, would it still.make sense?

I really don’t know which one to get for my Ninja 650. I am going to be hooking up some underglow to it, I dunno if that makes a difference.

Thanks now y’all cleared that up for me!

Great break down thanks

I got a 2010 Harley tri glide I have love highs on it and the ultra cool system fans for the oil. Radio . Electric reverse gps. Would a lithium battery work well with wat I got going . ? Also my 103 v twin is no longer a 103 I have a s&s bore racing kit in it and also power vision installed. So lithium battery or gel battery ?

@delboysgarage nice shot of Del at the end building one of his bikes 🙂

i use a nano-gel battery and it has done me very well for 2 years now. :D

So tired of replacing lead acid batteries in my bike, paid well over $100 and get one season out of it complete waste of money. Used a tender and ran it once in a while during off season and still died and no recharge. Just bought a lithium and will give it a try, right off the bat the weight difference is astounding and all in a smaller package. Hope it works out in the long haul. Cant say as I agree with his relability statements regarding SLA AGM batteries.

@TyrantExterminator1776

Жыл бұрын

I AGREE I just went Lithium with an antigravity, and they have a 3 year warranty so that would be a longer WARRANTY and life than I have So far gotten out of a Lead aid or gel battery.

Lithium is great if you store your bike during the winter. No trickle charger needed as they Lose charge very little over months. Whereas most old school batteries become very weak as they near time to be charged, lithium’s have full cranking power as it nears it time to charge. So one will start your bike vs the other just slow crank and die. Lithium is more recyclable and less toxic to the environment. They should out last old school lead batteries, in theory. If you have to replace your battery, pay the extra and go with the lithium. Battery and tires are important on a bike so do not sell yourself short. Just a few years ago around $400 now almost as competitive as old school. Car lithium batteries still too expensive as a much larger lithium battery needed but they will come down on price

@matthewcook7027

5 жыл бұрын

Scott Campbell I live in ohio it gets very cold here in winter. We store our bikes in storage unit with no electricity every winter we take out batteries and bring home. Can a lithium battery stand cold weather where I wouldn’t have to take battery out ?

@at0m113

5 жыл бұрын

@@matthewcook7027 IIUC Lithium ion batteries actually discharge slower in the cold (but obviously, disconnect the terminals). So if you aren't going to trickle charge yours either way, you should leave them in the cold. Just don't use them until they're warmed up.

@mannyechaluce3814

6 ай бұрын

Lithium by itself is less toxic, the rest of minerals to make a Lithium battery is very toxic for the environment. Who recycles Lithium? Nobody, it cost way to much to separate the Lithium from the components that makes up a Lithium battery :D I use Lithium for the weight savings, not for anything else :D

Amen

Never heard complaints on reliability of Lith Ion that DIDNT result from lack of placing on a charger when in extended non use

@gonfern1987

5 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Garzon actually the point of them is that they lose very little charge over time (if you disconnect them) my only beef with them is how crappy the cold weather performance is. Also you need a good charger that can charge them.

@jonathangarzon2798

5 жыл бұрын

@@gonfern1987 noco smart charger for Lith Ion is $60 And any battery sucks in cold weather

@jonathangarzon2798

5 жыл бұрын

@@gonfern1987 I'm saying it from personal experience, I run an AGM platinum from AdvancedAutoParts and the difference is it starts better at 3-7° colder. To me that difference is not enough to warrant a heavier battery with less cranking amps and no restart feature (I run an antigravity restart 12 hd) The antigravity battery is $230 vs AGM $110 from someone who uses their motorcycle as their only transport year round I'd go lithium. And no I don't have money up the ass, I understand it's pricey but the cost is worth it

@steve-wu7jp

5 жыл бұрын

I don't have a tender and. run a Shorai battery. Ride the bike once a month is enough to keep it topped up at its optimal level. The weight savings here is key, my stock battery was almost 8 pounds and brought it down to around 1 pound with a lithium. 200 dollars isn't a lot of money when you look at the value of a motorcycle.

@gonfern1987

5 жыл бұрын

Sierra Nevada I must be doing something wrong. I can’t seem to keep a charge in mine and I ride the bike more than once per month. Went back to AGM and never had another issue.

Was wondering I keep our bikes in storage unit as we don’t have a garage. Every winter I take the batteries out of our bikes and bring them home and put on tender. I heard these new lithium batteries I wouldn’t have to do that. I could make sure they are fully charged then store them all winter. Is that true. And if not is there any tips where I wouldn’t have to take out the batteries. Mind you I don’t have electricity at storage unit

@matsudakodo

2 жыл бұрын

Store lithium batteries at 50%

Just got a tru gel myself.

@RevZilla so can we fit pretty much any Lithium on any model of bike ? or do we need to get specific battery models for specific bikes . Thanks in advance :)

@RevZilla

3 жыл бұрын

Different lithium batteries have different capacities for larger or smaller engine applications. Give us a call or shoot us an email at 877-792-9455 or cs@revzilla.com and one of our Gear Geeks can help you find the right battery for your needs! -Zack

@mattduncan5500

3 жыл бұрын

@@RevZilla will do my man. Thanks again

I just switched to Shorai from an oem Yuasa and do not like it’s cold performance, -7C. Fully charged with its branded charger and left it on for several minutes before starting as stated in instructions. I got fed up with it and went ahead to push start to turn over the engine. Once warmed up it runs ok. I’m starting to regret it.

@hillie47

5 жыл бұрын

You could try switching on the ignition so your headlight is on. If you're running halogen, it'll draw a little current and the battery can warm up a bit. Do that for a minute or two and it helps a little in cold weather. At least, it seems to have helped me.

@johnm1707

5 жыл бұрын

That’s what I did at a minimum of 5 mins per instructions for that specific degree and up to 10 mins for a couple of tries. At start up, it tries to crank then goes dead and reboots the system. A 4 ft push start is no biggie but I don’t want to do it all the time. It’s above freezing this week so I hope it gets better or it’s going to be returned.

@hillie47

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnm1707 yeah, in that case I'd get something different

I bought one, lasted a year. NO THANKS.

Lithium batteries generally have 2000 cycles vs lead acid batteries of 500-1000 cycles. So even though initial cost is higher low term lithium wins. Lithium is 100% efficient vs 8O% Efficient lead acid. Lithium has full power till almost dead, faster charging, and more efficient at lower temps than lead acid. Lead acid developed 1860’s and time for a change!

I found my Lithium battery didn’t hold charge well in the cold and ended switching back to lead acid for dependable cold cranking but that’s just my opinion and I’m a bit of a shed the weight guy and still switched back

@andrekarpov8757

5 жыл бұрын

WADZ UP how cold is it? I park my bike outside in New York so we get our fair share of cold. I don’t have a garage. I do ride almost every day regardless of temperature but I was thinking of switching to lithium on my Vulcan 1600 mean streak for more amperage.

@WADZUP

5 жыл бұрын

Andrey Karpov generally only a few below freezing temps

I guess because this video is 5 yrs old, technology has changed. Lithium batteries (now) are not only significantly lighter than Lead-Acid batteries, but have much better Cold Crank Amps, higher/ more consistent power output, no acid or water to leak, perform better in cold, charge exponentially faster, and last about as long as a traditional battery.

I’ve had problems with my lithium battery, thought I did the research before buying one, but Its not great in cold temps, and struggles to start bike if left for a few days in the cold

@colin9630

4 жыл бұрын

where do you live?

@rodikaya5692

3 жыл бұрын

@@colin9630 UK, its not even that cold here, now 2 years on the lipo battery looses charge over night, i have a shido battery

1:36 bad idea to make a battery box out of metal. It calls for a short and battery goes boom

Which type would be best for long periods of time on a battery tender?

@Dubst3pT3ch

Жыл бұрын

Lead acid. You won't need one for lithium.

Need some help!! Im buying a bike but cant test drive it because i live in new york and it is winter. Any tips sense i cant test drive? Do you recommend even trying to buy the bike?

@RevZilla

5 жыл бұрын

Don't buy the bike if you can't test it. Also, take a look at our guides for buying a used bike. -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/common-tread/the-used-bike-buying-checklist *www.revzilla.com/common-tread/dont-get-burned-used-bike-buying-tips

Great video Lemmy👍

The guy on the phone yesterday, when i called revzilla, said the lithium battery is a no no for a harley lol.

Which battery to buy?, which oil to use, which tires to use??? It never ends. And everyone thinks they know the best. There is no best.

Just ordered a Li-Ion battery from Revzilla. My previous one was great, right up to the point I killed it ☹

What about for audio???

This video is 4 years old. A lot of change in BMS and chip technology. Get lithium and forget about it.

Harley Davidson just came out with their own lithium battery

I say YES!

Be careful my brand new Shorai shorted out internally and blew out the bottom and produced a sweet smelling smoke that leaked green fluid all over my swing arm. This is my 2nd shorai battery. The first one lasted 10 years and this one lasted 2 months

I have had nothing but problem with my lithium battery. I keep one in my sport bike but would never use one in my long distance Vstrom touring bike. Li-on batteries are great if you don’t live in cold climate. I find mine really struggles in anything under 50 degrees. Also, you have to unplug it or keep it on a charger (that can charge LI-on batteries) just a tiny discharge will permanently kill the battery. They are too delicate for a bike that needs to be 100% reliable.

@andrekarpov8757

5 жыл бұрын

GonFern by unplug it, do you mean disconnect the terminals? Or just any power draining accessories wired directly to the battery without relay?

@at0m113

5 жыл бұрын

Li-ion handles deep depth of discharge much better than lead acid, fwiw. Meaning you're more likely to kill a lead acid through phantom drain assuming the same capacity.

@gonfern1987

5 жыл бұрын

Dee Jay interesting. I was sure that I read the exact opposite when I was researching them for my sport bike. Certainly has been my experience. I for got to leave it on a charger for a few weeks over the winter and that battery never cranked out another amp. Also if I’m trailering my bike to the track on a chilly morning, even with a new lion battery, my first start at the track always needs a jump.

@gonfern1987

5 жыл бұрын

Andrey Karpov sorry I meant disconnect the terminals. They are supposed to hold a charge perfectly for months if they aren’t connected to the bike. So to winterize you just pull the terminals off and leave it. In the spring reconnect the terminals and it should fire right up. Should. I haven’t had great experiences with them but maybe that’s just me.

What about those of us who just need more space in the battery compartment and run a daily driver with lots of accessories? Where is our battery? lol

Tried lith battery for my R9t. Battery took a shit in less than 6 months and was crap in the cold. Not using again unless they improve the tech. Not reliable.

@andrekarpov8757

5 жыл бұрын

Stormedbyhippies C what does crap in the cold mean? Would it not start or what exactly would happen?

Shout out to using delboys garage clips! Great channel! @moonfleet41

Ok

I put a Shorai in my street bike about a year ago. Zero problems. I live south though, and I'm chuckling at all the people who live in cold weather here.

0:49 Is that strap not plastic? I think it's metal. Oh well.

Nobody in the comment section will notice the weight difference.

Anyone else running a l-ion, but watched anyways!!

@guitstikkustoms4448

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, and there wasn't a lot of information provided.

@JR-ii5ld

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, running Shorai in my 98 FXDWG. Best damn battery I've ever had. Been riding 40+yrs. Charges quick. Charge last a long long time. Matter of fact did the initial setup charge two months ago. Have fired the bike up numerous times. Haven't put one mile on it. Fires up instantly. Haven't even put the trickle charger on it. Nice too not like I'll ever use it but had s built in diagnostics in the charger/maintainer and a store mode. Weighs 5 lbs. Probably never have to buy another battery for this bike ever. JMHO but not sure why anyone would buy anything else. P.S. this FXDWG has 1850 miles on it. Looking forward to the thaw so I can turn it into 18K miles.

It's definitely a no the only plus is the weight. And then loads of disadvantages.

TO EVERYONE IN KZread LAND I'm an electronic engineer If I need a special lithium battery charger to charge a lithium motorcycle battery THEN WHY AM I NOT CHANGING THE ALTERNATOR AND VOLTAGE REGULATOR ON MY BIKE (THAY ARE FOR LED ACID ) the BMS ( Battery Management System ) in the lithium battery dose this for us !!! please do not give out False info . the battery is made at the factory as a direct replacement (hens the name "motorcycle" battery) for a led acid battery AND "DOSE NOT REQURE A special CHARGER" !!

I was going to buy a Helmet from you, until I saw the Delboy clip.

No comparison as lithium is the best. Use the internet that you carry with you. Find a reputable site and see the real facts. So many people spread hearsay facts or forum facts when you have a smartphone in your hands. Lots of fake stuff on the internet but more true stuff. I am not interested in Joe’s or Susie’s one experience with their one lithium battery. Broad statistics with good sample sizes tell the truth, not one or 2 people’s own experience. Please to not email me a response. The above is just a statement and I do not care if you want to believe it or not. After all there are still people that think seatbelts are dangerous and that they would rather be thrown from the wreckage vs being inside the wreckage.

@UhYeahWhateverDude

5 жыл бұрын

Scott Campbell Someone’s triggered...

Lithium batteries deteriorate really fast in tropical climate. They lose charge much faster in cold. Also if you are fully discharging and recharging it often(ie not running your bike every day), it will be unable to hold a charge in less than 500 cycles give or take.

@jeffruebens8355

5 жыл бұрын

If you are all about less weight, the Ballistic lithium is good, or a much smaller lithium for a custom bike with a smaller look. Otherwise, buy the Yuasa less expensive batteries. Walmart is a good place to get a car battery with a long warranty. Walmart's cheap motorcycle batteries will probably only last a year and a half, making the Yuasa batteries from Japan cheaper and better over 3 years or more.

No.

I like all of the RevZilla guys, other than this guy. He's so nasty. Who cares what his opinions is?

@Aekom

5 жыл бұрын

Not having a go, but yeah I'm going to go out on a limb and say the vast majority of Revzilla watchers care for Lemmy's opinion.

@johnkolinoff8591

5 жыл бұрын

Scoobie Cub. would Brad Pitt... be more to your liking.

@motonirvana6861

5 жыл бұрын

Care to provide an example?

@SpoolinVR

5 жыл бұрын

Your judge of character is extremely flawed my friend.

@bwxmoto

5 жыл бұрын

Scoobie CubIf you don't like it, GTFO - Pretty simple.

Did this clown say a lead acid battery is more reliable?!?!