Beautiful setup. Really love this JL

thank you. you've just answered all my questions.

Awesome video! Like John 928 said, you answered my questions

Answered all my questions too. Great video

@DrivingLine

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

That was amazing info help to use the offroad pages to correct the steering wheel.

We just finished a 2" Dynatrac lift and 37's install on our 21 JL. We love how it turned out. The ride is just like stock or just a little better. The road manners are great and the fit and finish are top shelf for us. I think 4:88 gears will be the last thing, but living in north Texas, we don't need them right now. I can't say enough good things about this combination.

A very nice set up 👍

Same kit I’m going to run on my wife’s JL. Thanks Ali

@Ali_Mansour_Editor

4 жыл бұрын

Zachary Fike She’ll like it. I’m stoked with how smooth it is.

Great job, Ali!

@DrivingLine

10 ай бұрын

Thanks Phil! Long time no see. Hope you are doing well.

Great video

Perfect. I have 2.5" of lift and running 35's. I want to go 37's and this video really answered some questions. I was wondering about the steering at full chock and whether the tires rub the frame at all. I know a lot of that has to do with backspacing etc. but being that you kept your wheels closer in, you would seem to get a good example of that. I have no idea what my Fuel Covert Beadlocks are spaced at but I just wanted to make sure there was no or minimal rubbing on frame during a hard turn.

Great video Ali!

@DrivingLine

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great video! I just picked up a 2021 JLU rubicon and am looking for a small lift mainly just to level it out and then put 35s on it. Yes I want 37s but the negatives just outweigh the positives for me personally.

Its amazing how an increase from 35s to 37s is average and inch and a half more in height , i think about regearing , lift , gas , 7th and 8th gear . All for that tiny bit of height. Sounds like 35s are the best fit

The reliability of axels and all connecting hardware won't like 37s in the long run. Still, looks sick!

Please group JL related videos into a playlist !

What should you be weary of, if you go 3.5 inch lift and 40 inch tires?!

Love the video. Thank you. The beach scenes and sand area look familiar. Fort Fisher?

@DrivingLine

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Yes. Most of the beach shots were from there.

Loved the vid. Great info. Just a little off topic but what front bumper is that. It is sweet.

@DrivingLine

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. It's from Expedition One. I did a video on it as well: kzread.info/dash/bejne/inyWy9CGhNi0hbg.html

Such a good video thank you. I'm running 37's on my JLUR and getting 17 mpg. I wonder are you calibrated? I do have issues getting into 8th but it's rare, but I think why you loss of mpg could be like you mentioned the tire size, I'm running the the bf goodrich km3's which are not true 37's and the there also maybe a weight difference? Great vid👍

@Ali_Mansour_Editor

4 жыл бұрын

Stephen Carbajal Hi, Yes. My Jeep is calibrated with a Tazer from Z Automotive. After I uploaded the video, I realized that I cut that mention out. I’m getting a consistent 15.5 mpg for the most part.

@stephencarbajal5657

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting? It must be the difference in tire size and possibly weight? I cant think off the top of my head the load range of my bf's but anyway good vid.

@Silvrwind1

4 жыл бұрын

@@stephencarbajal5657 Another reason for lower mpg is OP is running beadlocks which normally add about 15 lbs per wheel so x4 is an extra 60 pds.

Hey man thanks for the detailed video! You definitely have me sold on this whole setup. My only question is what is your overall roof height?

@DrivingLine

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I had to look back at my notes. It was a little over 78 1/2 inches with 28psi in the tires.

@bengower523

3 жыл бұрын

@@DrivingLine thank you! I had a hard time finding that online

3.0 Diesel and 37 s is perfect

@Lc_Sebastian

3 жыл бұрын

Even the 2.0 turbo its better then the V6. Alot of set ups here on KZread with that engine on 37 or even 40s. :)

@gogerwi

3 жыл бұрын

Do you still have 7th and 8th gear on the highway?

Excellent setup. Thoughts on this lift with 35’s on a rubicon?

@Ali_Mansour_Editor

4 жыл бұрын

JEFFERY Kesler It would work fine. You’ll just have a little more gap around the tire.

I think this kit runs the 3inch lift front fox shocks right? If so do you recommend upgraded drive shaft? Does stock shaft allow enough range of motion with the sway bar unlocked?

@DrivingLine

3 жыл бұрын

The shocks are built specifically for this kit last I checked. I didn't have any issue with the stock drivelines.

Great review. Are you guys running stock gears?

@DrivingLine

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. It still has the factory 4.10 gears.

Great video! Thank you. What rear bumper did you put on that rig? Very nice.

@DrivingLine

5 ай бұрын

Thanks. The bumpers are from Expedition One.

Curious on your thoughts on how a 2.0 turbo no etorque . Definitely loving reviews on this..Wife says lower the better but I want 37s 2021 unlimited rubicon

@DrivingLine

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't spent enough time with the 2.0 Turbo to say how it would work on 37s. I have a few friends with that engine setup on 37s and 40s. They all seem very happy with it. I think regearing the differentials will be the ticket to keeping it feeling peppy all around. - Ali Mansour

@mikethompson7406

Жыл бұрын

I have Wildpeak AT3W on order in 37s for my '22 JLUR 2.0L no etorque. I think I'm going to put a Clayton 2.5" on and eventually re-gear in 2023 once I have more money saved up. It's funny because I bought the Jeep over the 4Runner because the Rubicon already had the ground clearance I wanted and I wouldn't have to do anything to it like I'd have to for the 4Runner. Here I am less than a year after picking up the Jeep and I have 37s on order and looking at a lift. Just Empty Every Pocket

What front and rear bumper are you running? Great video!

@DrivingLine

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. They are from Expedition One. Great products. I did install videos on both on this channel as well.

Did you add adjustable control arms or an adjustable front track bar? Also the soft ride sounds good but I'm also concerned with sagging.

@Ali_Mansour_Editor

3 жыл бұрын

I’m still on stock control arms and I do not have an adjustable track bar. The actual lift height amount is around 1.8 inches. That keeps everything pretty well in spec. When I put my Jeep on the alignment rack, the caster was around 4.5. A set of lowers would definitely get it closer to 6 degrees, but it’s not driving poorly at the moment. So, I haven’t really worried that much about it. It’s still within spec. The springs are definitely soft, but I have a full-size tire carrier on the back from Expedition One and an ARB drawer system. Even when I load up the Jeep for trips, it’s not sagging out the back. Long term, who knows? For right now, it’s been great.

@Jmonty580

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ali_Mansour_Editor Ok you have a Rubicon... I have a sport S so i would expect a bigger lift for my ride. So adjustable controls and track bar would probably be neccessary. Thanks for the info!

Questions...a 2020 jl sports with this lift kit on 35...would I have to rear gear...and would this be enough of a lift to go out on trails and fire roads...

@Ali_Mansour_Editor

4 жыл бұрын

I just spent a few days wheeling in the mountains and it really makes me want to re-gear to 4.88. This is mostly to get 8th gear back on the highway. You could probably get away with stock gearing and 35s. It just depends on how hilly of a place you live and how much highway driving you are doing. In terms of trails and fire roads, I think it works great for that. Very smooth riding suspension. I will have more videos on my JL on this channel very soon showing how it works in the mountains.

I have a new 2021 Gladiator Rubicon that has the 2" lift but I need a bigger tire for more clearance and rubber. That said, I love the factory wheels. From what I found, you can't get bigger than a 315 on that 17" rim. Is that correct?

@DrivingLine

2 жыл бұрын

You can run a taller tire for sure. You just need to make sure it's narrow enough to be with spec. So, if you are looking for a 37 for example, try and find one that is a 11.50 inches wide rather than 12.50. That being said, you can run a 37x12.50 on the stock wheel, but it's going to be out of the tire manufacturer's recommended specifications.

I have a Jeep JL with an aev kit, and cant stand how stiff it is. I have changed all the components to help get it dialed in but the springs are so stiff. Wound the springs in this be more plush and ride more like stock. Have soft c rated bfg ko2 37s on 17s and it just does not soak up anything just puts the feel right to my seat.

@DrivingLine

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t have a lot of experience with AEV suspension kits under the JL. What I can say is that these springs are definitely on the soft side. I’m not sure what exactly is feeling firm on yours. It could be the valving and/or springs. If I was to swap over, I would definitely swap the shocks and the springs and start fresh. This is a very smooth riding kit for sure.

@Jeffski329

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrivingLine I actually upgraded to falcon fully adjustable shocks with reservoirs… In an attempt to dial the ride in, but it hasn’t helped I was thinking of either going with some thing like this and keeping my adjustable shocks, or going to a TeraFlex kit being it’s the same as falcon

@JimmyDevere

Жыл бұрын

Its the AEV springs that cause the stiff ride. For example, with dual rate springs you use of the soft side of the spring right away and are basically riding on the stiffer part. Ride quality is mostly coming from the spring. The shocks dampen the springs and the better the shock the better the dampening in that the Fox Performance 2.0 will retain their effectiveness much longer and help soak uo bigger hits. Reservoir shocks are probably not necessary unless you are racing for extended time. In reality most of are just cruising along at a comfortable speed on a dirt road. AEV is good for roof top tent, extra fuel and water for extended trips, drawer systems, extra height for larger obstacles etc.

I have a stock 20' Rubicon unlimited and looking at a 2" lift. For daily driving in streets with occasional off-road would you recommend 35s or 37s?

@DrivingLine

2 жыл бұрын

A 35-inch-tall tire will be the more practical of the two. It will also allow you to keep your stock differential gears. Moving up to a 37 will rob a little more power and performance. I prefer the look at off-road performance of the 37s, but the 35 is definitely the more practical tire.

Looks Great! But regarding negative offset what is the maximum for your 2018 Rubicon with 37s with only 2 inches of lift?

@DrivingLine

2 жыл бұрын

I always look at the wheels backspacing figure. Ideally you want over 5 inches of backspacing. These were close to that and worked well. Companies like Trail Ready will build you a beadlock with custom backspacing or you can go with something from AEV which has around 5.72 inches of backspacing.

@v.g.4176

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrivingLine Thanks so much! greatly appreciate the information.

Do you run at all on road with the 37s on the stock rubicon suspension?

@DrivingLine

3 жыл бұрын

No. We had 35s before this lift. We didn't put on the 37s until after it was lifted.

How is brake dive? My stock rubicon 2 door is bad. But i like this kit

@Ali_Mansour_Editor

4 жыл бұрын

Jimmy R Not bad at all. Stays very balanced overall.

@jimmyr1683

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ali_Mansour_Editor thx

Nice set up , what motor ?

@Ali_Mansour_Editor

4 жыл бұрын

TMS 1224 It’s the 3.6L V-6.

Would this same set up work on a 2020 Willys?

@Ali_Mansour_Editor

3 жыл бұрын

The suspension would work no problem. You probably won’t be able to run 37s however. The Willys does not have highline fenders like the Rubicon from the factory.

Any rubbing? If so what did you do ? What about high clearance fenders ?

@DrivingLine

Ай бұрын

Very minimal rubbing on the plastic at the backside of the rear fenders. I trimmed them up a little bit and that was it. This is Rubicon, so it already has Highline fenders. If I wanted or needed more clearance, I could easily split the flare.

Did you run the lift any with 35s any before putting your 37s on and if so what was your thoughts? I am considering this lift but don’t want it to be too much for 35s and don’t want to go to 37s

@Ali_Mansour_Editor

4 жыл бұрын

Nick McKinney I did not. I had 35s with no lift before this. I will say, I liked the power a lot better with 35s. I am very happy with the ride quality, but am leaning towards regearing at this point. I’ve seen others with this kit and 35s and it doesn’t look bad. You won’t have the rubbing issues that I have either.

@TRD_Cueto

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ali_Mansour_Editor how bad did you rub in the rear with 37s?

@Ali_Mansour_Editor

2 жыл бұрын

@@TRD_Cueto Not bad at all. At first, it would grab a little plastic on the bottom side of the inner fender at the back. I eventually trimmed that bit of plastic up a little and didn't have an issue. It would still put pressure on the inner fender every now and again if it was super stuffed, but not so much that it was an issue. If you look on this channel, you can find more video of me wheeling the Jeep in the rocks. It worked great.

Nice review. Do you have any experience with the Mopar/Fox lift. My understanding is that it yields over 2 and a half inches of lift. Would that likely prevent any rubbing on a JLUR with 37s? How does it compare? Thanks.

@DrivingLine

3 жыл бұрын

We have not tested the Mopar lift unfortunately. So, we're not sure how it would compare.

Did you have to modify the body in any way for tires not to rub?

@DrivingLine

3 жыл бұрын

No. I didn't modify anything on the body. It rubs slightly on the inner fenders at full stuff, but not to the point where I've needed to modify anything.

How is the geometry with the stock track bars? I just installed this lift and notice the vehicle is off center... is it outside of specs?? Do I need new lower control arms or new track bars?? Also, anyone have issues with the bolt from the passenger side front track bar coming loose?? Wondering if my mechanic missed something

@DrivingLine

3 жыл бұрын

With just two-inches of lift, everything should be within factory spec in regards to the tracking. I put my on the alignment machine and the caster was at 4.3. This is within range, but the JL tends to drive a little better with increased caster. So, lower control arms would help with this. If you are happy with the on-road driving "feel", I would not worry about buying lowers. I never had an issue with my bolts coming loose.

@vicn1349

3 жыл бұрын

Driving Line yea just found out the mechanic didn’t tighten it back up. I’m going to swap out both track bars with the synergy ones. Could I do the lower control arms in the driveway or does it need to be on a lift?

One year later, do you still on 4.10s or you re-geared???

@DrivingLine

3 жыл бұрын

I never re-geared it, but it could have benefited from 4.88s for sure. I ended up selling the Wrangler and purchasing a Gladiator. - Ali

Anyone know the offset he's running? Doing 37s on my 2020 rubicon and trying to find what offset I prefer. This setup is perfect looking to me.

@DrivingLine

3 жыл бұрын

The wheel has Zero offset with 4.75 inches of backspacing.

@derekpb6394

3 жыл бұрын

@@DrivingLine was test fitting some 37s on rims with a 4.285 back spacing (likely slightly off some standard) on BFG MTs that run 36.25 on dia and it seemed decent.

Are you still pleased with the 2” lift and 37s?

@DrivingLine

3 ай бұрын

Yes.

Can I run stock wheels on this lift without spacers?

@DrivingLine

Жыл бұрын

Depends on the tire. A 37x12.50 will rub on the control arms with stock wheels.

Hi do you have this set up for JK? 2016 rubicon

@DrivingLine

2 жыл бұрын

At this time, Dynatrac only offers this kit for the 2018 and newer Jeep Wrangler JL.

What tire pressure are you running on the street?

@DrivingLine

3 жыл бұрын

Usually around 30 up front and 28 out back.

How far the tires sticking out front & rear?

@DrivingLine

2 жыл бұрын

A little over an 1.5 inches. It's a 37x12.50R17 on a 17x8.5 beadlock with 4.75 inches of backspacing. If you wanted something to stay tucked under the wheelwell a little more, look at the AEV Borah Dualsport wheel. It has 5.75 inches of backspacing and sticks out less.

What are the specs on the tires

@DrivingLine

3 жыл бұрын

37x12.50R17 Nitto Trail Grapplers on 17x8.5 KMC Robby Gordon Beadlocks.

With dynatrec 2 inch lift will new front fenders eliminate rubbing in full articulation when aired down?

@DrivingLine

2 жыл бұрын

It depends on the fenders. It just barely rubs, so new fenders aren’t really necessary. If you peeled out the plastic inner liner, nothing would rub at all. Many of the aftermarket flares Mount lower the the factory Rubicon ones, so you actually might lose room instead of gain it. If you went with a narrow style flare that might be the exception.

@MichelGephart

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrivingLine wow! So your view after testing is the dynatrac 2 in lift doesn’t have relevant rub even in full articulation? Appreciate the tip on fenders too! No reason to bother. Prefer to replace when eventually broken if possible! What back rack and rear bumper did you go with if you don’t mind me asking? If you have a spec sheet I can browse that too if easier 😃 really appreciate it!

@DrivingLine

2 жыл бұрын

It’s only rubbing on the plastic inner liner. Nothing that would create any damage. My bumpers come from Expedition One. If you look on our channel, you’ll find install videos on those as well.

can i install this on my 21 diesel JL?

@DrivingLine

2 жыл бұрын

I believe they did offer it for the diesel at one point, but I don’t think they offer that version any longer.

Did you adjust for tire size with a Tazer Jl or something similar?

@Ali_Mansour_Editor

4 жыл бұрын

Matthew Love Yes. The Jeep has the Tazer JL. I apologize, I forgot to mention that in the video.

What about 35” it will rub off road ?

@DrivingLine

2 жыл бұрын

You would have plenty of room with a 35.

What did you do to balance the beadlocks?

@DrivingLine

3 жыл бұрын

Had my local shop static balance them with stick-on weights. Worked great.

@FrankPapadakis

3 жыл бұрын

@@DrivingLine oh nice, I've heard some shops won't balance beadlocks

Hi, how much the jeep Wrangler JL lift whole kits? Thanks!

@DrivingLine

9 ай бұрын

This is the updated version of the kit. It’s a little over $1,500 now. www.dynatrac.com/dynatrac-endurosport-suspension-lift-kit-for-the-2018-2019-jeep-wrangler-jl.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2LP8xNrKgQMVvDHUAR1glAwSEAAYASAAEgK5wfD_BwE

@Heater9999

9 ай бұрын

@@DrivingLine Thank you for your reply to me ⚠️my 2023 jeep Wrangler Sahara 4xe should I ordered what sizes the kits better ? Thanks

@DrivingLine

9 ай бұрын

I don’t think this kit is designed or offered for the 4XE. The 4XE is a bit heavier. I would recommend looking at a suspension kit from JKS manufacturing. They offer a 2.5 lift designed specifically for the 4XE.

What bumpers are you running? I love them

@DrivingLine

3 жыл бұрын

Both are made by Expedition One. Front: kzread.info/dash/bejne/inyWy9CGhNi0hbg.html Rear: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aWeeq5uMfKnUmbg.html

Name of the rims?

@DrivingLine

3 жыл бұрын

KMC XD231

@ddeniz125

3 жыл бұрын

@@DrivingLine thank you.

Thats a loud mud tire

Dude - you look puny compared to those tires. Ridiculous.

@DrivingLine

2 жыл бұрын

I do find standing next to large tires very slimming. Thanks.