1991 ITV franchise auction | BBC News coverage | 16 October 1991
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@vhs_videohomesystem Жыл бұрын
00:00:00 Intro 00:00:30 1100 News Summary 00:02:18 One O'Clock News 00:16:05 Six O'Clock News 00:28:00 Nine O'Clock News 00:39:44 Newsnight - Jeremy Paxman introduction 00:44:47 Newsnight - David Plowright, Granada 00:47:07 Newsnight - Phil Redmond interview 00:49:16 Newsnight - David Levy report 00:56:41 Newsnight - Michael Grade, Channel 4 01:00:24 Newsnight - tomorrow's newspapers 01:01:07 END
@johnking5174
Жыл бұрын
BBC must have watched this with absolute delight, as originally the 1986 Peacock Committee on broadcasting was set up by Thatcher to get the BBC to use advertising. Instead the report said no to that and turned its fire to ITV, leading to the 1991 franchise auction rules. BBC dodged a bullet, and sat back and watched ITV take the bullet that was aimed at the BBC
@waynetaylor2854 Жыл бұрын
This might one of the largest collections of News surrounding the 1991 ITV Franchise Auction which was a huge turning point in ITV and British broadcasting in general. Lovely to see all the different reports on it. Looking forward to seeing the rest of it!
@thatleeburton Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Anna Ford got a little kick out of reporting the demise of TV-am...
@vhs_videohomesystem
Жыл бұрын
I wondered that too! Wasn’t there an incident of throwing glasses of champagne?
@thatleeburton
Жыл бұрын
@@vhs_videohomesystem Not sure if it was champagne - but it was definitely wine and it definitely went over Jonathan Aitken.
@japi2k9
Жыл бұрын
I second the motion.
@JJVernig
10 ай бұрын
@@thatleeburton on HIGNFY she told that she had a half full glass of red wine and first had it filled up..🤣
@johnking5174
10 ай бұрын
I don't think so, as come 1991, the management who were the ones who sacked her in 1983 were long gone by 1991, and she always had sympathy for the hard working staff at TV-am - she blamed the 1983 management, not the rest of the staff.
@goodiesguy4 ай бұрын
Thames should've never have lost, they were THE ITV company.
@robertcomer2767
29 күн бұрын
As Richard Dunn said when Thames lost - companies with no track record were given licences. F*** only knows what s*** was in that Carlton application because they never delivered anything least of all quality. And just like Lady Plowden at the IBA and then George Russell never had to answer to anyone for removing ATV and Thames
@johnnyballenatl Жыл бұрын
From an American perspective: When they bought MTM (makers of the Mary Tyler Moore Show, Newhart, WKRP in Cincinnati, St. Elsewhere, and Hill Street Blues among many iconic shows), it would be the beginning of the end for TVS.
@blueknight078 ай бұрын
This was a massive blow to Thatcher. The Peacock report did the exact opposite of what she wanted. The loss of TV-AM was also particularly hard as she was close to the Aitken Brothers and Bruce Gyngell.
@johnking5174 Жыл бұрын
BBC must have watched this with absolute delight, as originally the 1986 Peacock Committee on broadcasting was set up by Thatcher to get the BBC to use advertising. Instead the report said no to that and turned its fire to ITV, leading to the 1991 franchise auction rules. BBC dodged a bullet, and sat back and watched ITV take the bullet that was aimed at the BBC.
@vhs_videohomesystem
Жыл бұрын
I wasn’t aware of the Peacock report. Very interesting. Amusing that the licence fee recommendations were not what the Conservative government had hoped for. Almost 40 years later governments are still trying to figure out how to replace the licence fee. The ITV ‘secret bid’ franchise auction was not the fairest way to keep it competitive.
@brucedanton3669
Жыл бұрын
Yes you are of course so right there then too. I remember reading about the Peacock Committee report in the now magazine of old The Listener in July 1986 at the time. For those who do not know, The Listener was a kind of sister magazine to the Radio Times, published then by BBC Publications, although it later was jointly owned by ITV as well but sadly ended though in January 1991so too.
@brucedanton3669
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reply there so then too.
@Remote60
4 ай бұрын
@@brucedanton3669ITV Network
@Remote60
4 ай бұрын
@@vhs_videohomesystemIndependent Productions
@brucedanton3669 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this of course, which is most interesting too. The 1991 ITV franchise auction round did definitely make the channel different from January 1993 onwards, as we now know. Sadly in a way not for the better somehow, as many others have said before too. Well done though too.
@brucedanton3669
Жыл бұрын
Thank you there for that so too.
@plechaim Жыл бұрын
This was interesting thank you
@ianmorris3998 Жыл бұрын
Since Meridian took over TVS the South has seen a down grade in Television. They got rid of a great company TVS and let a not so good Meridant take over. Quality TV has gone down the pan.
@jdgreen5422
Жыл бұрын
Completely agree, TVS was a quality company.
@christopherhulse8385
Жыл бұрын
@@jdgreen5422 Southern Television was good too
@PhilReynoldsLondonGeek
10 ай бұрын
@@christopherhulse8385TVS should never have won in the first place, though Southern should perhaps have had to take on board some of their plans.
@jamesmitchell8922 Жыл бұрын
The Ulster logo was shown in its wrong way
@Vinnytv7679
Жыл бұрын
And also they wrong the Channel Television logo
@dlamiss Жыл бұрын
And within a year David Plowright was booted out at Granada
@rtc9063 Жыл бұрын
15:50 - Strong powers to penalise, fine or remove the franchise - so why wasn't that done to Carlton? Oh hang on because not long after George Russell got his feet under the table at the ITV Network Centre and was never brought to account on the disaster he put in place.
@rtc90634 ай бұрын
No outsider would ever want an ITV franchise today.
@adultmoshifan87
4 ай бұрын
I actually hope ITV get shut down soon, they’re giving the Tories and Starmer a free pass!
@rtc90639 ай бұрын
Is there anybody out there that looked forward to all that local crap they were forced to make? At ATV, we had gardening in a greenhouse, Chris Tarrant with fish. The only show that was worth watching was Central Weekend Live
@grahamnancledra703611 ай бұрын
How wrong they got it with TSW and WestCountry. TSW made programmed for the region, watched by the region, by passing some networked ITV programmes maybe. But West Country did nothing except a regional news programme, watched by no one as the BBC's Spotlight was so superior.
@mattjones11544 күн бұрын
I bet Anna Ford was smiling inside as she announced TVam had lost their franchise...
@jamesdelboy Жыл бұрын
If North West TV had won the franchise Brookside and Grange Hill would have moved over to ITV
@adeforeman86
11 ай бұрын
While Coronation Street would probably have gone to Sky
@jamesdelboy
11 ай бұрын
@@adeforeman86 It could have done
@eIucidate5 ай бұрын
It must have been pretty exciting growing up with this on the cards every 10 years. I was born in the late 80s so never got to experience it.
@safirahmed4 ай бұрын
Oracle text service on ITV was replaced by Daily Mail's Teletext text service on 1 January 1993.
@vhs_videohomesystem
4 ай бұрын
I forgot that changed too. A pointless change.
@safirahmed
4 ай бұрын
@@vhs_videohomesystem TV Whirl has images and information on both Oracle and Teletext pages.
@Remote60
4 ай бұрын
@@vhs_videohomesystemBBC ITV.
@thepowerman1000 Жыл бұрын
I believe I have on VHS an edition of This Week, from Thames, with Ray Snoddy looking at this prior to the awards. I'd love to post it here.
@vhs_videohomesystem
Жыл бұрын
That would be interesting to see. Do you have the ability to upload it to your KZread channel?
@thepowerman1000
Жыл бұрын
@@vhs_videohomesystem sadly I don't. I'd have to dig the tape out of the loft and I do still have a VHS device to play it on, but no way of converting it
@thepowerman1000
Жыл бұрын
@@vhs_videohomesystem would you like me to find the tape and send it to you? Before long I won't have a TV with a SCART port to connect the VCR. At least if you can convert it and upload it won't be lost. If so, can you message me somehow off group?
@vhs_videohomesystem
Жыл бұрын
That’s an interesting idea! I’m not sure how you’d get it to me - I hope you understand I wouldn’t want to give out my home address. I’ll have a think.
@thepowerman1000
Жыл бұрын
@@vhs_videohomesystem please do. As I say it'd be a pity to lose it.
@jamesmitchell8922 Жыл бұрын
Scottish TV old logo is seen at its time.
@rtcp202010 ай бұрын
It was a canon event
@thought-drops3 ай бұрын
00:16:31 Anna Ford thinking about karma perhaps?
@Over_Sky11 ай бұрын
I notice that the losers all begin with the letter ‘T’. TV-AM, Thames, TSW and TVS.
@chriswathen9612
3 ай бұрын
Yep, Tyne Tees was the only 'T' to survive
@ferndalemanmk6Ай бұрын
Have the franchises ever been put out for tender since? especially now as one company owns ITV (excluding STV)?
@johnking5174
5 күн бұрын
The ITC had planned that these new franchises would be in place for possibly 20 years. However come 2003, Granada and Carlton owned all of England and Wales franchises, which led them to merge in 2004 and become ITV plc, with all the regions minced. So any franchise renewal after then was just a rubber stamping method from Ofcom. 1991 was the last proper franchise round.
@anglosaxon3613 ай бұрын
Quite good picture for a VHS video, quite interesting. ITV has all merged together now, I wonder what they pay for it now?
@RosettaGR39611 ай бұрын
George Russell, I initially thought a name sounded familiar
@centrevezgaming48628 ай бұрын
Anna was relishing this moment when TvAM went under after firing her years earlier.
@vhs_videohomesystem
8 ай бұрын
Yes, the irony!
@dwho19951 Жыл бұрын
Central and STV should've faced further competition at the time
@Candolad
11 ай бұрын
Carlton ended up buying and taking over Central anyway. ATV/Central was probably the best ITV franchise and it was killed off at the hands of Carlton. ITV was never the same from around 1989 when the ITV network gave up in-vision continuity and was effectively merged and called Channel 3 and ITV.
@dwho19951
11 ай бұрын
@@Candolad Okay
@Thebustermann
7 ай бұрын
@@Candolad that didn't happen in all regions. TVS for example refused to fall under the 89 ITV look. In vision was already on the way out by then.
@dominewimbury2039Ай бұрын
This and 31st December 1992 were the two worst days 😡 Thames was mine! Sod Carlton. That was shit! Sorry but it was
@rtc90639 ай бұрын
If smug Leslie Hill was so clever with his £2,000 bid, why wasn’t he ready to buy out LWT or Granada? No doubt he earned millions when Carlton bought out his shares
@rajnirvan3336 Жыл бұрын
Sunrise never even escalated. Would eventually become GMTV
@jamesdelboy
Жыл бұрын
To tell the truth GMTV was actually going to be called Sunrise but as Sky News's morning programme was also called sunrise that's why the name was changed
@rajnirvan3336
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesdelboy that I heard
@jamesdelboy
Жыл бұрын
@@rajnirvan3336 Ok that's fine
@tsr2077 ай бұрын
Gus (later Lord) MacDonald's finest hour- Scottish Television's bid was laughable - but now it would be inconceivable that ITV would be allowed to take over STV- owing to the backlash that would arise !
@johnking5174
5 ай бұрын
Never say never - everyone thought UTV in Northern Ireland would never taken over, and boy it was and now is minced into ITV
@coreysothwell326911 ай бұрын
Itvshow1991
@dwho19951 Жыл бұрын
So what would've happened if everyone in the 20th century commonly said "Margaret Thatcher"?
Пікірлер: 86
00:00:00 Intro 00:00:30 1100 News Summary 00:02:18 One O'Clock News 00:16:05 Six O'Clock News 00:28:00 Nine O'Clock News 00:39:44 Newsnight - Jeremy Paxman introduction 00:44:47 Newsnight - David Plowright, Granada 00:47:07 Newsnight - Phil Redmond interview 00:49:16 Newsnight - David Levy report 00:56:41 Newsnight - Michael Grade, Channel 4 01:00:24 Newsnight - tomorrow's newspapers 01:01:07 END
@johnking5174
Жыл бұрын
BBC must have watched this with absolute delight, as originally the 1986 Peacock Committee on broadcasting was set up by Thatcher to get the BBC to use advertising. Instead the report said no to that and turned its fire to ITV, leading to the 1991 franchise auction rules. BBC dodged a bullet, and sat back and watched ITV take the bullet that was aimed at the BBC
This might one of the largest collections of News surrounding the 1991 ITV Franchise Auction which was a huge turning point in ITV and British broadcasting in general. Lovely to see all the different reports on it. Looking forward to seeing the rest of it!
I wonder if Anna Ford got a little kick out of reporting the demise of TV-am...
@vhs_videohomesystem
Жыл бұрын
I wondered that too! Wasn’t there an incident of throwing glasses of champagne?
@thatleeburton
Жыл бұрын
@@vhs_videohomesystem Not sure if it was champagne - but it was definitely wine and it definitely went over Jonathan Aitken.
@japi2k9
Жыл бұрын
I second the motion.
@JJVernig
10 ай бұрын
@@thatleeburton on HIGNFY she told that she had a half full glass of red wine and first had it filled up..🤣
@johnking5174
10 ай бұрын
I don't think so, as come 1991, the management who were the ones who sacked her in 1983 were long gone by 1991, and she always had sympathy for the hard working staff at TV-am - she blamed the 1983 management, not the rest of the staff.
Thames should've never have lost, they were THE ITV company.
@robertcomer2767
29 күн бұрын
As Richard Dunn said when Thames lost - companies with no track record were given licences. F*** only knows what s*** was in that Carlton application because they never delivered anything least of all quality. And just like Lady Plowden at the IBA and then George Russell never had to answer to anyone for removing ATV and Thames
From an American perspective: When they bought MTM (makers of the Mary Tyler Moore Show, Newhart, WKRP in Cincinnati, St. Elsewhere, and Hill Street Blues among many iconic shows), it would be the beginning of the end for TVS.
This was a massive blow to Thatcher. The Peacock report did the exact opposite of what she wanted. The loss of TV-AM was also particularly hard as she was close to the Aitken Brothers and Bruce Gyngell.
BBC must have watched this with absolute delight, as originally the 1986 Peacock Committee on broadcasting was set up by Thatcher to get the BBC to use advertising. Instead the report said no to that and turned its fire to ITV, leading to the 1991 franchise auction rules. BBC dodged a bullet, and sat back and watched ITV take the bullet that was aimed at the BBC.
@vhs_videohomesystem
Жыл бұрын
I wasn’t aware of the Peacock report. Very interesting. Amusing that the licence fee recommendations were not what the Conservative government had hoped for. Almost 40 years later governments are still trying to figure out how to replace the licence fee. The ITV ‘secret bid’ franchise auction was not the fairest way to keep it competitive.
@brucedanton3669
Жыл бұрын
Yes you are of course so right there then too. I remember reading about the Peacock Committee report in the now magazine of old The Listener in July 1986 at the time. For those who do not know, The Listener was a kind of sister magazine to the Radio Times, published then by BBC Publications, although it later was jointly owned by ITV as well but sadly ended though in January 1991so too.
@brucedanton3669
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reply there so then too.
@Remote60
4 ай бұрын
@@brucedanton3669ITV Network
@Remote60
4 ай бұрын
@@vhs_videohomesystemIndependent Productions
Thank you for this of course, which is most interesting too. The 1991 ITV franchise auction round did definitely make the channel different from January 1993 onwards, as we now know. Sadly in a way not for the better somehow, as many others have said before too. Well done though too.
@brucedanton3669
Жыл бұрын
Thank you there for that so too.
This was interesting thank you
Since Meridian took over TVS the South has seen a down grade in Television. They got rid of a great company TVS and let a not so good Meridant take over. Quality TV has gone down the pan.
@jdgreen5422
Жыл бұрын
Completely agree, TVS was a quality company.
@christopherhulse8385
Жыл бұрын
@@jdgreen5422 Southern Television was good too
@PhilReynoldsLondonGeek
10 ай бұрын
@@christopherhulse8385TVS should never have won in the first place, though Southern should perhaps have had to take on board some of their plans.
The Ulster logo was shown in its wrong way
@Vinnytv7679
Жыл бұрын
And also they wrong the Channel Television logo
And within a year David Plowright was booted out at Granada
15:50 - Strong powers to penalise, fine or remove the franchise - so why wasn't that done to Carlton? Oh hang on because not long after George Russell got his feet under the table at the ITV Network Centre and was never brought to account on the disaster he put in place.
No outsider would ever want an ITV franchise today.
@adultmoshifan87
4 ай бұрын
I actually hope ITV get shut down soon, they’re giving the Tories and Starmer a free pass!
Is there anybody out there that looked forward to all that local crap they were forced to make? At ATV, we had gardening in a greenhouse, Chris Tarrant with fish. The only show that was worth watching was Central Weekend Live
How wrong they got it with TSW and WestCountry. TSW made programmed for the region, watched by the region, by passing some networked ITV programmes maybe. But West Country did nothing except a regional news programme, watched by no one as the BBC's Spotlight was so superior.
I bet Anna Ford was smiling inside as she announced TVam had lost their franchise...
If North West TV had won the franchise Brookside and Grange Hill would have moved over to ITV
@adeforeman86
11 ай бұрын
While Coronation Street would probably have gone to Sky
@jamesdelboy
11 ай бұрын
@@adeforeman86 It could have done
It must have been pretty exciting growing up with this on the cards every 10 years. I was born in the late 80s so never got to experience it.
Oracle text service on ITV was replaced by Daily Mail's Teletext text service on 1 January 1993.
@vhs_videohomesystem
4 ай бұрын
I forgot that changed too. A pointless change.
@safirahmed
4 ай бұрын
@@vhs_videohomesystem TV Whirl has images and information on both Oracle and Teletext pages.
@Remote60
4 ай бұрын
@@vhs_videohomesystemBBC ITV.
I believe I have on VHS an edition of This Week, from Thames, with Ray Snoddy looking at this prior to the awards. I'd love to post it here.
@vhs_videohomesystem
Жыл бұрын
That would be interesting to see. Do you have the ability to upload it to your KZread channel?
@thepowerman1000
Жыл бұрын
@@vhs_videohomesystem sadly I don't. I'd have to dig the tape out of the loft and I do still have a VHS device to play it on, but no way of converting it
@thepowerman1000
Жыл бұрын
@@vhs_videohomesystem would you like me to find the tape and send it to you? Before long I won't have a TV with a SCART port to connect the VCR. At least if you can convert it and upload it won't be lost. If so, can you message me somehow off group?
@vhs_videohomesystem
Жыл бұрын
That’s an interesting idea! I’m not sure how you’d get it to me - I hope you understand I wouldn’t want to give out my home address. I’ll have a think.
@thepowerman1000
Жыл бұрын
@@vhs_videohomesystem please do. As I say it'd be a pity to lose it.
Scottish TV old logo is seen at its time.
It was a canon event
00:16:31 Anna Ford thinking about karma perhaps?
I notice that the losers all begin with the letter ‘T’. TV-AM, Thames, TSW and TVS.
@chriswathen9612
3 ай бұрын
Yep, Tyne Tees was the only 'T' to survive
Have the franchises ever been put out for tender since? especially now as one company owns ITV (excluding STV)?
@johnking5174
5 күн бұрын
The ITC had planned that these new franchises would be in place for possibly 20 years. However come 2003, Granada and Carlton owned all of England and Wales franchises, which led them to merge in 2004 and become ITV plc, with all the regions minced. So any franchise renewal after then was just a rubber stamping method from Ofcom. 1991 was the last proper franchise round.
Quite good picture for a VHS video, quite interesting. ITV has all merged together now, I wonder what they pay for it now?
George Russell, I initially thought a name sounded familiar
Anna was relishing this moment when TvAM went under after firing her years earlier.
@vhs_videohomesystem
8 ай бұрын
Yes, the irony!
Central and STV should've faced further competition at the time
@Candolad
11 ай бұрын
Carlton ended up buying and taking over Central anyway. ATV/Central was probably the best ITV franchise and it was killed off at the hands of Carlton. ITV was never the same from around 1989 when the ITV network gave up in-vision continuity and was effectively merged and called Channel 3 and ITV.
@dwho19951
11 ай бұрын
@@Candolad Okay
@Thebustermann
7 ай бұрын
@@Candolad that didn't happen in all regions. TVS for example refused to fall under the 89 ITV look. In vision was already on the way out by then.
This and 31st December 1992 were the two worst days 😡 Thames was mine! Sod Carlton. That was shit! Sorry but it was
If smug Leslie Hill was so clever with his £2,000 bid, why wasn’t he ready to buy out LWT or Granada? No doubt he earned millions when Carlton bought out his shares
Sunrise never even escalated. Would eventually become GMTV
@jamesdelboy
Жыл бұрын
To tell the truth GMTV was actually going to be called Sunrise but as Sky News's morning programme was also called sunrise that's why the name was changed
@rajnirvan3336
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesdelboy that I heard
@jamesdelboy
Жыл бұрын
@@rajnirvan3336 Ok that's fine
Gus (later Lord) MacDonald's finest hour- Scottish Television's bid was laughable - but now it would be inconceivable that ITV would be allowed to take over STV- owing to the backlash that would arise !
@johnking5174
5 ай бұрын
Never say never - everyone thought UTV in Northern Ireland would never taken over, and boy it was and now is minced into ITV
Itvshow1991
So what would've happened if everyone in the 20th century commonly said "Margaret Thatcher"?