1988 NLCS Gm3: Howell ejected after glove examined

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10/8/88: Dodgers reliever Jay Howell is ejected from the game in the bottom of the 8th after the umpires find pine tar on his glove
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  • @svetcovladich9996
    @svetcovladich9996 Жыл бұрын

    "It's like a Norman Rockwell painting" - Tim McCarver One of the best lines ever.

  • @logalogalog
    @logalogalog6 жыл бұрын

    5:06 There are 2 things you'll never see at a ballgame today: a corded phone in the stands and smoking while in the stands.

  • @joecorrero6763

    @joecorrero6763

    4 жыл бұрын

    I even remember when Jim Leyland coached the Pirates...he smoked about 2 packs a game in the dugout and always drank coffee!

  • @TomSmith-dt4tj

    @TomSmith-dt4tj

    4 жыл бұрын

    actually you see lots of smoking in the stands today, just not of tobacco. Also outside the US smoking is common in stadiums, I went to a soccer match in Berlin's Olympic stadium two years ago, smoking all over and people can bring their own booze into the stadium as well. Now thats what Im talking.

  • @rickmontgomery3037

    @rickmontgomery3037

    4 жыл бұрын

    And a 3rd: hearing a Peter & Gordon song when the umps go to the mound ;-)

  • @lukasgarage956

    @lukasgarage956

    4 жыл бұрын

    And nowadays fans in the stands......or an actual game.

  • @Qboro66

    @Qboro66

    4 жыл бұрын

    I've sat behind many a smoker in Shea Stadium back in those days. I sure was glad when they did away with that.

  • @Brooklyn3955
    @Brooklyn39558 жыл бұрын

    This was such a classic scene at Shea. Lasorda's low "Come on Harry" as Howell gets ejected. Wendelstedt bringing the glove to Giamatti in the stands is unprecedented - don't think anything like that has happened before - please correct me if I'm wrong. Giamatti's "Yep" when he feels and confirms the substance. Maz coming over to listen to what the BIG BOSSES say - I would have done the same thing. Love the classic umps I grew up watching in the 80's - McSherry, West, Wendelstedt, Rennert - what a crew of classic "blue". Great upload.

  • @Lee_Forre

    @Lee_Forre

    8 жыл бұрын

    This is when baseball was still baseball. Giamatti using a hardline telephone, which was seemingly in arms grasp of his seat while one of his delegates is taking a drag from a cigarette. Lasorda's expression of disappointment after realizing he can't do anything is powerful when you consider how much Lasorda always had his players backs. He could see Howell fucked up.

  • @pronkb000

    @pronkb000

    8 жыл бұрын

    This is a change for the better, but also check out the guy freely puffing on a cigarette in front of Giamatti right after that. A different time indeed.

  • @DangerRussDayZ6533

    @DangerRussDayZ6533

    7 жыл бұрын

    You could still smoke in diners when I was a kid in the 90's. Wasn't that long ago! Now, you wanna talk about different time, doctors smoking in hospitals.

  • @larrycopeland2413

    @larrycopeland2413

    7 жыл бұрын

    It wasn't in regard to a foreign substance, but check out a replay of Game 4 of the 1980 NLCS (Phillies at Astros), when they had a 15-20 minute delay to determine whether a fluky infield play (in the 4th inning, I think) was a triple play or not. The umpires consulted directly with NL president Chub Feeney, who was at the game, sitting near home plate.

  • @AEMoreira81

    @AEMoreira81

    7 жыл бұрын

    Normally, this would get sent by FedEx to the league President. However, with the league President and supervisor of league umpires both present, that wasn't needed.

  • @rustykuntz94
    @rustykuntz948 жыл бұрын

    Rick Dempsey is a throw back, looks like he could have played 100 years ago w that look & equipment.

  • @almostfm

    @almostfm

    6 жыл бұрын

    And he always looked like he was having a ball.

  • @eltravo2112

    @eltravo2112

    6 жыл бұрын

    I got his autograph at Chavez Ravine summer of 1990 along with Jim Gott the night Fernando Valenzuela no hit the Cardinals😀

  • @KH6DAN

    @KH6DAN

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dempsey was almost a God to the Baltimore fans. After he won the World Series MVP in '83 President Ronald Reagan called him to congratulate him. Dempsey told Reagan "The Russians don't have anything like this". That was the epitome of Dempsey.

  • @AEMoreira81

    @AEMoreira81

    5 жыл бұрын

    He was also pretty old at the time. He was one of the last MLB players who had played in the 1960s (he retired in 1992 at the age of 43).

  • @rayoyler7382

    @rayoyler7382

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dempsey is a asshole. in 1979 ALCS he tackled a fan ,when fans ran on field at Anaheim vs Angels as a member of Orioles. I hope he dies

  • @MightyGreedo
    @MightyGreedo Жыл бұрын

    Bart Giamatti was the last commissioner who really represented the fan. He was great. The game never was the same after we lost him. He worked for US, as fans, as opposed to working for the owners and the unions.

  • @TMC1982Part2

    @TMC1982Part2

    Жыл бұрын

    You can also make the argument that Giamatti's immediate successor, Fay Vincent also seemed like once of the last commissioners who really worked and operated the best interests of baseball first and foremost instead of essentially being a mouthpiece for the owners like maybe, Bud Selig and later Rob Manfred became.

  • @insertclevername4123
    @insertclevername41234 жыл бұрын

    "Maybe he grabbed the other guy's glove" and "Maybe he accidentally picked up someone else's bat" are the baseball equivalents of "I swear to God my Twitter account was hacked."

  • @MrJking065

    @MrJking065

    2 жыл бұрын

    😂🤣

  • @josephtrapani6466
    @josephtrapani64666 жыл бұрын

    The National League had a great umpire crew for this series. Crew Chief Harry Wendelstedt, John McSherry, Joe West, Dutch Rennert, Bob Davidson, and Paul Runge.

  • @seamus1956

    @seamus1956

    6 жыл бұрын

    Joseph Trapani Those were the days. I still think Dutch Rennert's strike call is the all time classic, and I'm not sure he wouldn't do a better job than some of these youngsters, even at age 87. Wendlesteadt and McSherry are both gone, may they rest in peace, but Cowboy Joe West is still at it, 42 years after his 1976 debut. With 8 division series, 9 LCS, 6 World Series and 3 All-Star Games on his resume, probably one of the best (and most criticized) of all time.

  • @marc3702

    @marc3702

    6 жыл бұрын

    Bob Davidson? At least Joe West is a good ball/strike umpire; even if he is a butthole. Davidson had no redeeming qualities as an umpire though. The others, I totally agree with you. Good guys.

  • @METALITHrevetments

    @METALITHrevetments

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think Davidson was a good umpire in the NL. After the moronic mass resignation in 1999 Bob lost his job and it took him 8 years to get it back. When he returned in the 2007 season he had become a grumpy old man, looked disheveled and had lost his edge and disposition. He had become a real asshole.

  • @vgr112261

    @vgr112261

    Жыл бұрын

    Joe West?

  • @petegrunert9230
    @petegrunert92304 жыл бұрын

    You can clearly see the pine tar on the brim of his cap!

  • @jeremybright13
    @jeremybright133 жыл бұрын

    I miss the NL & AL having separate umpiring staffs. The leagues had their own identity back then. What I don't miss from this era: smoking in the stands.

  • @timburr4453

    @timburr4453

    Жыл бұрын

    I remember people doing it in the damn domes. You'd have families with little kids and right behind them raspy curmudgeons sucking down whole packs during a game Nowadays people vape during games

  • @ktmrsnsk000inusa
    @ktmrsnsk000inusa6 жыл бұрын

    "It's like a Norman Rockwell painting" Maybe my favorite commentary ever.

  • @killyourtelevision999

    @killyourtelevision999

    6 жыл бұрын

    Me too! And it came from McCarver.

  • @CandlestickSec7

    @CandlestickSec7

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mark JN 80s McCarver was great, like a baseball version of Tony Romo today, it was in the 90s and beyond that he turned into a parody of himself.

  • @Mr.Derogatory316

    @Mr.Derogatory316

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not even Tim McCarver is absolutely annoying especially during this whole clip and the worst broadcaster in MLB history

  • @TomSmith-dt4tj
    @TomSmith-dt4tj4 жыл бұрын

    I sure miss historic Shea Stadium.

  • @exdemocrat9038

    @exdemocrat9038

    4 жыл бұрын

    80's baseball in general.

  • @richardcheng7563

    @richardcheng7563

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Cheating" Jay Howel?! Hmmm?

  • @vgr112261

    @vgr112261

    Жыл бұрын

    It was a dump.

  • @timburr4453

    @timburr4453

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@vgr112261 It was an awesome stadium during big games. Thunderously loud.

  • @surferpam1
    @surferpam12 жыл бұрын

    Giamatti just says: "yup." Man, I love baseball the way it used to be.

  • @jasonmoyer
    @jasonmoyer Жыл бұрын

    My favorite part is Rick Dempsey mixing spit and rosen in his glove and showing it to the ump.

  • @robjschaffer8296
    @robjschaffer82966 жыл бұрын

    The best part about being in the stands for this was hearing "Bye Bye Love" over the speakers. Man, I miss Shea in the 80s.

  • @rickmontgomery3037

    @rickmontgomery3037

    4 жыл бұрын

    And "I Go To Pieces" when the umps went to the mound ;-)

  • @shirleebostrom7230

    @shirleebostrom7230

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dodgers won what that year? ✌

  • @brentturner7232
    @brentturner72324 ай бұрын

    So many things about this bring back a sense of nostalgia for me: 1. The importance of afternoon games in the MLB postseason. 2. Rick Dempsey with the regular cap, backwards, and it not moving an inch 3. Lasorda and half the Dodgers wearing brown gloves to stay warm, now you can only find those at Home Depot or Lowes 4. League officials sitting in the bleachers with the regular folk.

  • @Willsatx
    @Willsatx6 жыл бұрын

    Is that Paul Giamatti behind his dad smoking a cigarette at 2:21?

  • @lylewalker5681

    @lylewalker5681

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wow, how did I not know Paul Giamatti was his son? Trippy.

  • @ronaldh8446

    @ronaldh8446

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, that is absolutely Paul Giamatti.

  • @robminmonaca

    @robminmonaca

    5 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if he didn’t go into acting if he would been working for MLB.

  • @worldtraveler721

    @worldtraveler721

    4 жыл бұрын

    5:06 What's the thing the guy behind the guy smoking is holding up to his ear? Lol!!

  • @dannysunay8099

    @dannysunay8099

    4 жыл бұрын

    good observation! That is him! Great actor! He is my favorite!

  • @BassmanII
    @BassmanII7 жыл бұрын

    Harry Wendelstedt. Master badass of the National League umpires!

  • @srvfan25

    @srvfan25

    4 жыл бұрын

    He needs to be in the hall of fame

  • @kevintucker466

    @kevintucker466

    3 жыл бұрын

    he should and so should the home plate umpire in this game

  • @BassmanII

    @BassmanII

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kevintucker466 That's Joe West.

  • @chadgoforth6961

    @chadgoforth6961

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wendelstedt was the man and was respected by everyone in baseball.

  • @tomgreenfor777
    @tomgreenfor77712 күн бұрын

    I went to school and played little league ball with Jay Howell in our home town of Miami, FL. all the way up until high school. Jay was bigger and stronger than the other kids and he was an excellent pitcher. He was a little wild at times which made batters even more nervous. I hated batting against him! I think I got a couple of singles off of him over the course of several years. I played catcher for him in one Khoury league all-star game and my left hand hurt for a week. Jay was one of the top pitchers in Miami during the 70's and Chris Lynch and Ed Lynch grew up playing ball with us too.

  • @mattsbaseballcardbreaks5952
    @mattsbaseballcardbreaks59524 жыл бұрын

    I like daytime playoff games.

  • @adamdorgant9454

    @adamdorgant9454

    Жыл бұрын

    Me too!!!!

  • @marcor22044

    @marcor22044

    9 ай бұрын

    Yeah

  • @ericradford2142

    @ericradford2142

    2 ай бұрын

    Me too.

  • @mrf0901
    @mrf09015 жыл бұрын

    I was at this game sitting in the Loge. An Unforgettable moment even to this day! This game was so dramatic with the Met’s comeback but another Championship was not to be.

  • @worldtraveler721

    @worldtraveler721

    4 жыл бұрын

    Did you chant: " Cheat, cheat, cheat" with the rest of the crowd too?

  • @robjschaffer8296
    @robjschaffer82966 жыл бұрын

    Read Tommy Lasorda's lips after the ejection: "Jesus Christ, I don't believe this..." while sly Davey watches from the dugout like a gopher. Classic.

  • @kevintucker466

    @kevintucker466

    3 жыл бұрын

    this was also not the last time, 2012 he pulled crew chief Tim Tschida to inspect Joel Peralta because Peralta had pitched for Johnson in 2011 and knew of his use of pine tar

  • @ericradford2142

    @ericradford2142

    Жыл бұрын

    But the Dodgers had the last laugh by winning the NLCS in seven.

  • @RyansColoradoRailProductions

    @RyansColoradoRailProductions

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought he said “oh come on Harry”

  • @killyourtelevision999
    @killyourtelevision9996 жыл бұрын

    lol @ Joe West A.Bartlett Giamatti, R.I.P.

  • @robminmonaca

    @robminmonaca

    5 жыл бұрын

    The pressure of the Pete Rose scandal took a toll on him and his bad health didn’t help. At The press conference of the rose ban from baseball he looked very pale with his eyes very baggy.

  • @joego7924

    @joego7924

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@robminmonaca rose caused him to have a heart attack, good thing he's banned for life!

  • @lawrenceehrbar8667
    @lawrenceehrbar86673 жыл бұрын

    The big moment was late in game 4 when Lasorda was screaming on the mound at his reliever Orosco for being afraid to throw Strawberry strikes with men on base. Orosco got Strawberry to pop-out. The turning point in the series.

  • @PoliticusRex632
    @PoliticusRex6324 жыл бұрын

    I'd forgotten about that. Big Dempsey fan. When he was an Oriole we didn't complain about rain delays because of Dempsey's antics

  • @timburr4453
    @timburr4453 Жыл бұрын

    It was Mets coach Bill Robinson who noticed Howell oddly tugging at his glove. He was the one who told Davy something is not right here

  • @jaimecortez6930
    @jaimecortez69307 жыл бұрын

    Im a huge Dodger fan. I was in 7th. grade when this happened. I was upset then, but now looking back. I love this scene.

  • @highmeadows2030

    @highmeadows2030

    4 жыл бұрын

    But I bet you're upset at the fact that Dodgers lost 2017 World Series and 2018 World Series back-to-back losses

  • @worldtraveler721

    @worldtraveler721

    4 жыл бұрын

    So why aren't you demanding the Dodgers to vacate that title and give it instead to the Mets? The Mets felt cheated, I'm sure. The commentators even mention this same Dodgers' reliever cheating in the previous game. The Dodgers' catcher was even trying to distract the umpires, reaching into the glove. One of the umpires had to slap his hand away. The crowd even starts chanting: "Cheat, cheat, cheat..." According to the commentator, that had never happened in the postseason. And he also said that it would have granted suspension had it happened during the REGULAR season. Lets vacate that title. Why not?

  • @juancarlosmoreno5003

    @juancarlosmoreno5003

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@highmeadows2030 and loss on 2018 with Boston then be favorite in 2019 world series loss to the nationals in playoff wow that's sad 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @castlewoods4753

    @castlewoods4753

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@juancarlosmoreno5003 at least Astros didn’t lose back to back loses at dodgers own home same score 5-1 Astros STILL 2017 World Series champs

  • @sardo9378

    @sardo9378

    Жыл бұрын

    Of course you are happy now. The dodgers won that series lol.

  • @michaelgallarza6869
    @michaelgallarza68692 күн бұрын

    Joe West moving Dempsey’s arm away is classic.

  • @mrf0901
    @mrf09014 жыл бұрын

    I was at this game in the Loge section on the 3rd base side at Shea, I will never forget this moment. There was chanting following the ejection that cheaters never prosper. Big Mets fan back in the day, disappointing series, but a good win here.

  • @worldtraveler721

    @worldtraveler721

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wasn't even born yet, but retrospectively, I've always thought that the Mets must have felt cheated. Were you chanting: "Cheat, cheat, cheat" too? Lol.

  • @allisonm.2660
    @allisonm.26604 жыл бұрын

    I vividly remember watching this on TV that day. Since then, every time I hear "I Go to Pieces" by Peter & Gordon, I think of this moment and how it was playing over the Shea Stadium P.A. system just before the ejection.

  • @markcushines3517
    @markcushines3517 Жыл бұрын

    The umpires for the 1988 National League Championship Series between the Dodger blue and red of the Los Angeles Dodgers and the blue and orange of the New York Mets are: (#21/NL/Harry Wendelstedt), (#10/NL/John McSherry), (#22/NL/Joe West), (#16/NL/Dutch Rennert), (#31/NL/Bob Davidson), and (#17/NL/Paul Runge).

  • @Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co
    @Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co8 жыл бұрын

    Joe West looks about 16.

  • @METALITHrevetments

    @METALITHrevetments

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah...he looks like a 16 year old Elmer Fudd. Today he looks like a 64 year old Elmer Fudd.

  • @seamus1956

    @seamus1956

    6 жыл бұрын

    Depending on when this game was actually played, Cowboy Joe was either 35 or 36. His birthday is October 31, 1952 (making him 65 today).

  • @kenloyless6745

    @kenloyless6745

    6 жыл бұрын

    Me Here ml ml

  • @Hinch2011

    @Hinch2011

    6 жыл бұрын

    16 tons?

  • @worldtraveler721

    @worldtraveler721

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Hinch2011 😂😂😂

  • @Mister8Music
    @Mister8Music2 жыл бұрын

    I'm buddies with Jay. He runs a CBD farm in South Carolina now. He's a cool dude

  • @metsoneredsoxtwo
    @metsoneredsoxtwo5 жыл бұрын

    We (I was there) were all saying High School" in the stands that day!!!. :-)

  • @frankkiser5861

    @frankkiser5861

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol I remember that. David Cone started that whole thing a few days before when he called Howell a highschool pitcher or something haha

  • @VanillaLimeCoke
    @VanillaLimeCoke6 жыл бұрын

    As soon as the music starts in the background at 0:55 I knew that this was really going to get juicy.

  • @VanillaLimeCoke

    @VanillaLimeCoke

    6 жыл бұрын

    Btw, if anyone is interested the song being played is called.... I Go To Pieces by Peter & Gordon.

  • @walterlv01
    @walterlv014 жыл бұрын

    Vin Scully would criticize ABC for their coverage of this incident the next time Howell pitched, in G3 of the World Series against the Athletics. It's worth a listen - the video of that game is on here. As if the baseball gods were punishing Howell, he gave up the walkoff homer to McGwire just two batters in to his return from the suspension.

  • @ericradford2142

    @ericradford2142

    2 жыл бұрын

    At least the Dodgers won the World Series.

  • @DanStrayer

    @DanStrayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Found that exact clip from the game you mentioned: kzread.infoUgkxbob6kSYYi-HxeNKQ49saVYUjH9Iy6y4P

  • @DanStrayer

    @DanStrayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Also took note of this: kzread.infoUgkxw8dMzECq8MWZBDP64r8m4SZrWWdlQ_Am A few pitches later, BOOM!

  • @TheLocalLt

    @TheLocalLt

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s funny, worth pointing out that this broadcast featured McCarver, a Mets announcer, while the World Series featured Scully, the Dodgers announcer

  • @TampaJohn
    @TampaJohn7 жыл бұрын

    I was at this game!

  • @ronaldh8446

    @ronaldh8446

    5 жыл бұрын

    Me too. Upper deck, right field line.

  • @worldtraveler721

    @worldtraveler721

    4 жыл бұрын

    Were you guys chanting: "Cheat, cheat, cheat" with the rest of the crowd?

  • @talkdattrashimmapullyacard4396
    @talkdattrashimmapullyacard43965 жыл бұрын

    ⚾ Bac when tha player's actually " got caught" cheating 😆

  • @worldtraveler721

    @worldtraveler721

    4 жыл бұрын

    😉

  • @Fakename70

    @Fakename70

    4 жыл бұрын

    Getting caught still didn’t prevent at least 1 pitcher from getting into the HoF.

  • @isalcedo4211

    @isalcedo4211

    4 жыл бұрын

    Please don’t talk like that

  • @hamburg1306
    @hamburg13067 жыл бұрын

    Was at that game. It was freezing 39 degrees. Miserable weather.

  • @graciemaemarie11jones16

    @graciemaemarie11jones16

    6 жыл бұрын

    what do you expect? it's ugly ass new york state....ugly women...ugly people...UGLY weather....where else can you go for a july 4th gathering, where one must bring: an umbrella....sunscreen....a tarp...shorts...a parka....windshield visor....kitty litter for traction...

  • @richiebee1984

    @richiebee1984

    6 жыл бұрын

    graciemaemarie11 jones REALLY BRO YOU THINK THE STATE OF NY IS A SHITHOLE I'D LOVE TO SEE THE PIECE OF ART YOUR HOME CITY AND STATE LOOKS LIKE.IF YOU CAN'T STAND THE COLD IN OCTOBER DON'T COME TO NEW YORK EVEBODY KNOWS NEW YORK WEATHER CHANGES DRASLY FROM DAY TO DAY AND HOUR BY HOUR CAN BE 70 AT 3:00PM AND DROP TO 40 BY 5:30

  • @killyourtelevision999

    @killyourtelevision999

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like Chicago. ;)

  • @thehinge

    @thehinge

    5 жыл бұрын

    Exactly why I think the season should be shortened back to 154. Or, play scheduled double headers at least a dozen times a year on Saturday or Sunday. No reason to play in such frigid conditions in NYC.

  • @ronaldh8446

    @ronaldh8446

    5 жыл бұрын

    Me too. I was under the overhang down the right field line. The overhang dripped water on my legs all game. When I got up to leave my legs were numb from it. Lol

  • @ronaldh8446
    @ronaldh84468 жыл бұрын

    I was sitting in the upper deck in right field for this game. The game was supposed to be played the night before but was called for rain as soon as the ABC cameras went on ( we were all saying Giamatti waited for the live cameras to go hot so they could catch him sludging through the wet field. Guess his son Paul inherited his dad's theatrical senses). I remember in this game Gibson falling to make a great catch, Backman hitting a ball to right-center about as hard as he ever did and Mex falling , running between 2nd and 3rd and all of us thinking he had pulled a hamstring. He didn't. And of course, this bozo getting booted.

  • @moneybaggs3976

    @moneybaggs3976

    7 жыл бұрын

    dayum boi u old as shit

  • @ronaldh8446

    @ronaldh8446

    7 жыл бұрын

    Money Baggs - Lol

  • @thehinge

    @thehinge

    5 жыл бұрын

    Paul, the actor, is Bart's son. I had no idea.

  • @ronaldh8446

    @ronaldh8446

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@thehinge - 2:20 - 21 year old Paul can be seen on the left hand side of the screen behind his dad... and smoking! Lol.

  • @sir945
    @sir9458 жыл бұрын

    brilliant move on the part of Mets manager Davey Johnson to let it the count go 3and2 then check the glove

  • @KOHF34

    @KOHF34

    8 жыл бұрын

    +sir945 It shows he was really observant - very smart move. He also handled it very professionally - didn't yell at West and convinced him to go out and look at it.

  • @larrycopeland2413

    @larrycopeland2413

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's like having a hockey player's stick checked for an illegally curved blade... most teams doing that know ahead of time that the blade is illegal and just wait until the most opportune time to ask the ref to check it.

  • @AEMoreira81

    @AEMoreira81

    5 жыл бұрын

    On things like this, a team will usually have prior knowledge. Hardly ever does a manager's challenge end without an opposing player being ejected.

  • @transitfan954

    @transitfan954

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wasn't a big fan of Davey, but he was one of the smarter managers around. And of course, he is the only living man to manage the Mets to a World Championship. I was happy for him when he got a huge ovation at the 2013 All-Star Game at Citi field (he was managing the Nationals then and was selected as a coach for the NL).

  • @alexmunguia7173
    @alexmunguia71736 жыл бұрын

    Johnson tried pulling that same stunt on A-Rod. Griffey Jr gave A-Rod his bat and......BOOM HR!!!

  • @meadowlaguira9997
    @meadowlaguira99974 жыл бұрын

    This was ridiculous. It's SO obvious Howell was trying to give his glove a darker tint so it looked nicer. Then the game started and he didn't have time to work the pine tar into his glove so it just kinda laid there. He was really hoping to get taken out of the game early so he could finish beautifying his mitt. Such a shame the umpires couldn't see that.

  • @jasonfaber1463
    @jasonfaber14634 жыл бұрын

    I remember watching this and I saw the substance earlier and was hoping Davey Johnson would enquire that...

  • @keithmacmurray5423
    @keithmacmurray54234 жыл бұрын

    Miss these days

  • @thehinge
    @thehinge6 жыл бұрын

    I forgot Dempsey was a Dodger at the end of his career.

  • @AEMoreira81

    @AEMoreira81

    5 жыл бұрын

    He then played for Milwaukee in 1991, and then a last farewell at the end of 1992 before finally retiring at 43. Dempsey had made his debut in MLB in 1969 at age 20 with the Twins.

  • @rustykuntz94

    @rustykuntz94

    4 жыл бұрын

    Adam Moreira Very rare for a ball player to play in 4 decades, almost always has to be a player starting in the last year of a given decade and retiring in the first year or 2 of the last decade. Rickey Henderson & Jesse Orosco both did it starting in 1979 and retiring in the 2000’s. Jim Kaat from 1959-83, also Tim McCarver (who was announcing here) 1959-81

  • @frankkiser5861

    @frankkiser5861

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rustykuntz94 Ken Griffey Jr as well. 1989-2010

  • @pronkb000

    @pronkb000

    Жыл бұрын

    Omar Vizquel was an other '80s/'10s guy. Nobody played in both the '90s and '20s, sadly. Adrian Beltre probably had the best shot at doing it but didn't make it past 2018.

  • @dafukswrongwithyou1645
    @dafukswrongwithyou16458 жыл бұрын

    The mothafuka has transfer residue on his hat @ 5:49

  • @markcushines3120
    @markcushines31206 жыл бұрын

    The umpiring crew for the 1988 National League Championship Series between the New York Mets and the Los Angeles Dodgers are: (#21/NL/Harry Wendelstedt), (#10/NL/John McSherry), (#22/NL/Joe West), (#16/NL/Dutch Rennert), (#31/NL/Bob Davidson), and (#17/NL/Paul Runge).

  • @graciemaemarie11jones16

    @graciemaemarie11jones16

    6 жыл бұрын

    quite a load....

  • @beckyhofheinz6245
    @beckyhofheinz62453 ай бұрын

    It's the Dodgers, not suprised!

  • @AEMoreira81
    @AEMoreira818 жыл бұрын

    Now isn't this something! Not only is Jay Howell thrown out, but the supervisor of umpires and the league President are in the same building...and so the tainted glove can be given right to the people needing to mete out discipline (Howell got suspended for 3 days).

  • @TL2354

    @TL2354

    6 жыл бұрын

    I don't think it was unheard of then for the NL President and the NL supervisor of umpires to be at the NLCS

  • @KevinDee1979

    @KevinDee1979

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thats one game for rotation purposes

  • @chipcool6654
    @chipcool66544 жыл бұрын

    What’s the first song they play over the speakers

  • @farooqmahmud8934
    @farooqmahmud89348 жыл бұрын

    Hearing Al and Tim is like a cross between MNF and baseball on Fox. Mets choked big time that year.

  • @graciemaemarie11jones16

    @graciemaemarie11jones16

    6 жыл бұрын

    tim...is sooo annoying...glad he's gone.

  • @williamdiemert2116

    @williamdiemert2116

    5 жыл бұрын

    Before Fox Sports was CBS Sports from 1990 to 1994 when back to (abc)sports from 1994 to 1995.

  • @ADEAL918

    @ADEAL918

    4 жыл бұрын

    graciemaemarie11 jones he was MUCH better as a team with Michaels and Palmer though, then with Joe Buck.

  • @JustMe-nf1mf
    @JustMe-nf1mf2 жыл бұрын

    You can see the NL President say "yup" after he checks the glove lol. Doesn't matter why they checked... He was caught 🙄

  • @MarkcusHines
    @MarkcusHines11 ай бұрын

    The umpiring crew for the 1988 National League Championship Series between the blue and orange New York Mets and the Dodger blue of the Los Angeles Dodgers are: (#21/NL/Harry Wendelstedt), (#10/NL/John McSherry), (#22/NL/Joe West), (#16/NL/Dutch Rennert), (#31/NL/Bob Davidson), and (#17/NL/Paul Runge).

  • @2fifasiblingshd223
    @2fifasiblingshd2238 жыл бұрын

    I met Jay Howell and got a signature

  • @Kyle-21-

    @Kyle-21-

    8 жыл бұрын

    Throw it away he's a cheater

  • @diegoandrade8109

    @diegoandrade8109

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Kyle P calm down

  • @TampaJohn

    @TampaJohn

    7 жыл бұрын

    2fifasiblings Hd Did he sign it in pine tar ?

  • @Kyle-21-

    @Kyle-21-

    7 жыл бұрын

    Diego Andrade just joking man, hell of a piece of memorabilia

  • @ronaldh8446

    @ronaldh8446

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@TampaJohn crap! I'm a year too late with the same reply question. LOL

  • @jamesbow6725
    @jamesbow67257 жыл бұрын

    was that Paul at 2:27?

  • @HueyRocks23

    @HueyRocks23

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yep. He's also on 0:12-0:13 on the left side of the screen.

  • @ronaldh8446

    @ronaldh8446

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yep

  • @bossonegaming6777
    @bossonegaming67777 жыл бұрын

    West looks so young,

  • @umpireva5440
    @umpireva54404 жыл бұрын

    Pitcher use pine tar quite a bit especially in colder temps.

  • @Lee_Forre
    @Lee_Forre8 жыл бұрын

    1988, when Baseball was Baseball, when the Commish and his crew are stationed right behind a dugout with a hardline telephone in near reach, when cigarette and pot smoke was a real thing in the stands, when men were men, 1988, boys, 1988.

  • @rustykuntz94

    @rustykuntz94

    7 жыл бұрын

    Al Forest Oh yes the pot was in the air at Shea Stadium back in those days. Different era now haha

  • @jhamlin726

    @jhamlin726

    6 жыл бұрын

    Men are still men, fucking idiot.

  • @kalbossa

    @kalbossa

    6 жыл бұрын

    Im glad nobody smokes cigarettes in the stands

  • @aanon5716

    @aanon5716

    6 жыл бұрын

    the men didnt smoke pot. that was the dopey boys who worked at tire town, got drunk every weekend & lusted after the popular girl but never got. now they're grey haired pony tailed fat guys still getting drunk, smoking dope when they can cop some & still lusting after the way too young popular girls. cough.. losers.

  • @leannaburnell1745

    @leannaburnell1745

    6 жыл бұрын

    In your idiotic viewpoint, the late 80s were the golden era of baseball? Negro please. Everyone knows it was the 1960s. Mantle, Koufax, Mays etc etc...

  • @JobyOneKenobi7797
    @JobyOneKenobi77974 жыл бұрын

    It's ok, they didn't need Howell to beat the Mets that year anyway.

  • @worldtraveler721

    @worldtraveler721

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hiding the evidence, huh? Couldn't answer my question. That's all I will say. Lol!!! Stay safe, Mr. Hall. 🤦‍♀️

  • @user-ez3vq8ph2h
    @user-ez3vq8ph2h2 жыл бұрын

    crazy Joe West is still umpiring and you have Rick Dempsey behind home plate who played in the 60s

  • @ericradford2142

    @ericradford2142

    2 жыл бұрын

    He’s retired now and let’s leave it at that.

  • @timburr4453

    @timburr4453

    Жыл бұрын

    And you have Tommy Lasorda who was an active Brooklyn Dodger

  • @KOHF34
    @KOHF34 Жыл бұрын

    Anyone know the name of the song playing in the background as they are inspecting his glove?

  • @BrianONEILL-qf2cs

    @BrianONEILL-qf2cs

    3 ай бұрын

    'I Go To Pieces' by Peter and Gordon (1964)

  • @KOHF34

    @KOHF34

    3 ай бұрын

    @@BrianONEILL-qf2cs Thank you!

  • @joedebaun4547
    @joedebaun45476 жыл бұрын

    So, that's how the Dodgers win their games.

  • @965-san
    @965-san5 жыл бұрын

    0:14 DEMPSEY :D

  • @rosrychaplet
    @rosrychaplet6 жыл бұрын

    Look at lasorda run! Everyone is there.

  • @cole-trickle50
    @cole-trickle506 жыл бұрын

    Davey Johnson is a little cry baby . Maybe he should have spent more time trying to keep Strawberry , Gooden , Dykstra etc clean

  • @smoothALOE

    @smoothALOE

    6 жыл бұрын

    ZL1Speed43 he was too much of a players coach. That’s why his players loved him, but that’s also why he lost control of his team. They should’ve won at least a second WS with that talent. At least they got one, I guess.

  • @graciemaemarie11jones16

    @graciemaemarie11jones16

    6 жыл бұрын

    agree. poor boy's dwight and daryl and len....boys in men's bodies...

  • @Hinch2011

    @Hinch2011

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nice argument.

  • @ogrebattle22763

    @ogrebattle22763

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think the only crybaby here is you because Davey Johnson actually caught Howell cheating... & that fat slob manager Tommy LaSorda trying to play it off as if he didn't know what was going on... he was full of shit to just like you are... to think that we actually lost to that cheating scrubby ass garbage of a team is just unreal... I don't believe there's a bigger shittier team in baseball history that ever made it to the world series & won then that piece of shit Dodger team that year...

  • @sabrinaphillips916

    @sabrinaphillips916

    5 жыл бұрын

    ogrebattle22763 honestly...I’m not even a Mets fan and I have to agree: that Dodger team was the worst bunch of fucks that I ever saw win the WS. The fact that they beat you guys and then got to Eckersley and the A’s is just mind boggling. Totally agree and this is coming from a Yankee diehard

  • @davej3781
    @davej37814 жыл бұрын

    odd, I wonder why I don't remember this. I was a serious dodgers fan in the late 80's and 90's. I remember lots of stuff from the '88 season, especially from the NLCS and WS, but somehow I have no recollection of this. Weird.

  • @estherNMLATINA
    @estherNMLATINA4 жыл бұрын

    I remember this 😁 knucklehead

  • @JruGordon
    @JruGordon5 жыл бұрын

    Howell was suspended for 3 days, reduced on appeal to 2 days

  • @TMC1982Part2

    @TMC1982Part2

    2 жыл бұрын

    Allegedly, Tommy Lasorda concocted a story about him knowing a chemist who told him that pine-tar was really just a liquified version of rosin.

  • @KevinDee1979

    @KevinDee1979

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TMC1982Part2 that is all it is in basic form

  • @rennealexander8242
    @rennealexander8242 Жыл бұрын

    Actor Paul Giamatti sitting behind his Dad

  • @4444pro
    @4444pro5 жыл бұрын

    The Mets should have won that sieries and i think Orel Herschizer was always cheating with his no hitters ala mike scott

  • @jesseviv

    @jesseviv

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lmao

  • @davidconte3026
    @davidconte30265 жыл бұрын

    God i LOVE baseball hahahahahahahaha

  • @barberwinning
    @barberwinning4 жыл бұрын

    Dodgers won series in 88. Complain about astros winning kn 17 for cheating. Yea. Dont forget LA isnt innocent either

  • @jaydenfaulknor390
    @jaydenfaulknor3908 жыл бұрын

    0:40 Dempsey dlc4 map for zombies on black ops 3 confirmed

  • @feili805
    @feili8056 жыл бұрын

    I bet Dempsey wasn’t smiling a few seconds later.

  • @Chrisman77
    @Chrisman776 жыл бұрын

    5:10 when u could smoke at a baseball game lol

  • @worldtraveler721

    @worldtraveler721

    4 жыл бұрын

    What is the thing the guy behind him is holding up to his ear? Lol

  • @feili805
    @feili8054 жыл бұрын

    Was that Mayor Koch that waved at Dempsey?

  • @robminmonaca
    @robminmonaca5 жыл бұрын

    Is it better with only one commissioner in MLB or was it better with two league presidents when the leagues were split up before 2000 ?

  • @Fakename70

    @Fakename70

    4 жыл бұрын

    2 league presidents.

  • @justinnardine8564
    @justinnardine85644 жыл бұрын

    Is Dempsey wearing a regular wool cap?

  • @svetcovladich9996

    @svetcovladich9996

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup. Old school.

  • @StFidjnr
    @StFidjnr8 жыл бұрын

    @ 1:45 what happened Tim?

  • @jimmyxiao6713

    @jimmyxiao6713

    8 жыл бұрын

    Ejection

  • @bb-gc2tx
    @bb-gc2tx4 ай бұрын

    im convinced jesse orosco tipped off his old teamates on the mets about howell. orosco never wanted to be traded away from the mets he hated being a dodger hated lasorda and howell was his main competition for playing time. the 86 mets were a very tight group so i def think jesse said screw the dodgers and lasorda and gave his old mates this info

  • @Burton_aka

    @Burton_aka

    7 күн бұрын

    Thanks for sharing. My attention span got distracted by the comments so I skipped to the guy smoking while Giamatti ( no pun ) fielded the call... The Mets found a way to lose this series. The Dodgers seemed to have the way paved for them, imo...this was the end for the Mets...they had Gregg Jeffries AND the Straw Man...that Saberhagen trade...

  • @cumac44
    @cumac442 жыл бұрын

    Hello, look at the bill of Howell’s cap. This was apparently hidden in plain sight.

  • @williammize8270
    @williammize82702 жыл бұрын

    Pine tar in the glove he out for the series

  • @bobbyc1701
    @bobbyc17017 жыл бұрын

    The Umpire Joe West? Wasnt he the one that got in a staring match with Madison Bumgarner?

  • @newstarcadefan

    @newstarcadefan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Rob C yes the same Joe West that White Sox fans hate with a passion.

  • @ADEAL918

    @ADEAL918

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bobby C yes, but this one wasn't his decision. He clearly wanted no part of it, that's why he deferred to Wendelstedt, the crew chief.

  • @kevindavis8175
    @kevindavis81755 ай бұрын

    1:09 What song is this?

  • @ericradford2142

    @ericradford2142

    2 ай бұрын

    I Go To Pieces by Peter and Gordon

  • @stevendebettencourt7651
    @stevendebettencourt76519 ай бұрын

    Man, they need to bring back the “AL” and “NL” umpire hats. Or maybe adopt a similar “MLB” hat.

  • @joecorrero6763
    @joecorrero67634 жыл бұрын

    Look at all the pine tar on his cap bill

  • @mysocalledknife07
    @mysocalledknife07 Жыл бұрын

    Dempsey mixing the spit and rosin in his catcher's mitt to show the umps that moisture and rosin create a sticky substance: kind of lends credibility to Max Scherzer who argued the same thing before he got suspended for 10 games.

  • @charleshendren3961
    @charleshendren3961 Жыл бұрын

    What always got me about this was why Lasorda waited so long to argue. He literally doesn’t start arguing with Wendlestat until the glove has already been shown to Giamatti

  • @mfm4205

    @mfm4205

    Жыл бұрын

    think i can explain why: he's got no one warming up, and when a pitcher gets tossed, you don't get any time to warm up new guy (just your standard 8 pitches, lets go already). so by wasting 2-3 minutes putting up a fight he knows he'll never win, it can buy the guy a bit of time to get loose (and remember, new pitcher is coming in with a full count).

  • @timburr4453

    @timburr4453

    Жыл бұрын

    ​​@@mfm4205 it was a cold day it would likely take a bit longer to get an arm warm in october than in august...lasorda definitely knew he had to buy as much time as he could without getting thrown out to make sure the new guy was as ready as he could be

  • @tomweaverling1366
    @tomweaverling13664 жыл бұрын

    Rick Dempsey isn't wearing a catcher's helmet. That so weird.

  • @peymang
    @peymang Жыл бұрын

    Old school baseball..nothing like it

  • @jamesdyrda3125
    @jamesdyrda31252 ай бұрын

    2:20 Is that Paul Giamatti smoking a cigarette on the left side of the video??!!

  • @spinner9057
    @spinner90577 жыл бұрын

    From 2:34-2:39, Bart Giamatti's sitting over there like, "Why'd you guys have to drag my balls into this???"

  • @graciemaemarie11jones16

    @graciemaemarie11jones16

    6 жыл бұрын

    right. he was having a smoke....

  • @randyjohnson6845
    @randyjohnson68454 жыл бұрын

    Didn't the national league commissioner the guy on the phone have some kind of bad looking finger nails and some doctors said this is a very serious health problem

  • @mikespillman3075
    @mikespillman30755 жыл бұрын

    and pine tar would do what? I mean, what effect, how would a pitcher actually use pine tar to make the ball do what, exactly?

  • @alanhess9306

    @alanhess9306

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mike, a foreign substance applied to a ball will make the pitch break much harder. That is the reason for not allowing a pitcher to have a foreign substance anywhere on his person.

  • @StFidjnr
    @StFidjnr4 жыл бұрын

    5:32 BREAKING NEWS

  • @johnsanjuan7546
    @johnsanjuan7546 Жыл бұрын

    Substance in Glove!

  • @KevinDee1979
    @KevinDee19792 жыл бұрын

    “That’s a glove, Bart”

  • @stevedandy973
    @stevedandy9735 жыл бұрын

    I HATE CHEATERS. Howell CHEATED.

  • @peymang
    @peymang Жыл бұрын

    Lol old school baseball. Every inch of the ground is covered in spit. The dip days. Everyone is just spitting like camels...love it

  • @RyansColoradoRailProductions
    @RyansColoradoRailProductions2 жыл бұрын

    Then in game 3 of the WS, Howell would give up the walk off home run to Big Mac in Oakland.

  • @Rayburn58

    @Rayburn58

    Жыл бұрын

    Jay Howell also had a tremendous clutch outing in game 4 of the world series when he pitched 2-1/3 shut out innings to save a 1 run game for the Dodgers. They clinched the series the next day behind the great Orel Hershiser. Great job Jay Howell in game 4.

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